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Conflict in the Middle East

Do lots of people support Hamas?

691 replies

elprup · 03/12/2023 20:33

I just read this story and it is absolutely horrific

I saw ten Hamas terrorists beat and gang-rape an Israeli woman

https://mol.im/a/12820081

Is everyone on the pro-Palestine marches in London solely supporting the innocent civilians of Palestine (as I do too)? Or are there some people on these marches supporting the actions of Hamas as well?

I want to join the marches in support of innocent adults and kids in Gaza (and I would want to march for the same reasons on any pro Israel marches too), but I do not want to endorse Hamas in any shape or form. They are absolutely vile.

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Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 00:25

I’m not on Tik Tok, so no I don’t.

basculin · 30/12/2023 00:45

Livinginanotherworld · 29/12/2023 23:06

Well it certainly wasn’t some dude in a cave…..that’s for sure, he denied it outright originally , then accepted responsibility for it for some glory. He never went on trial though, his body was disposed of without taking him into custody. There are a lot of inconsistencies over 9/11, the public will never know the truth.

but that’s a whole other thread !

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Well then who was it? "Resistance fighters?"

Trulywonderful · 30/12/2023 00:51

If it helps I did have to right earlier on another thread that I definitely didn't know any of the 9/11 terrorists and was not part of the planning of 9/11

Seriously I did feel the need to write that post on another thread!

swimsong · 30/12/2023 01:25

This reply has been deleted

We are taking this down as it is not relevant to this thread.

Trulywonderful · 30/12/2023 02:44

Has Alex Sayle turned up on the thread because you think he supports Hamas or are you saying something else? I don't get it?

Trulywonderful · 30/12/2023 02:45

Or perhaps he knows who Living thinks planned 9/11?

Trulywonderful · 30/12/2023 02:47

Is it in his alternate alternate Christmas message that I haven't looked at because I can't be arsed?

noblegiraffe · 30/12/2023 09:21

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 00:25

I’m not on Tik Tok, so no I don’t.

Oh because tiktok recently came up as fuelling the idea among youth that bin Laden was actually a good guy.

Where are you getting your conspiracy theory from then?

Was it the New World Order who masterminded 9/11? Or international bankers? The global elite? Secret rulers of the world? One needs to be on guard against this sort of antisemitism.

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 15:37

basculin · 30/12/2023 00:45

Well then who was it? "Resistance fighters?"

If I say anything on here it will be deleted, but there is a lot of information in the public domain and it’s not all “conspiracy theories”. Who bought the towers and took out massive insurance weeks before. Some people were found in a van filming it as it happened, the CIA took over from the NYPD and they were spirited away out of the country. There was no aircraft debris at the Pentagon, it was a missile. We’ve all seen the debris pictures from Lockerbie and many other places, nothing was found, if it had it would have been held up to the world as proof, it wasn’t. The US and its “allies” wanted to go into Iraq, they now had a reason.

But I’m derailing massively and this will probably be deleted and you will call me a nutcase, but do some critical thinking if you are interested.

25milesfromhome · 30/12/2023 15:54

There was very little debris at the Pentagon because the plane was going so fast when it hit a heavily reinforced building that it totally disintegrated- it literally liquified. Science!

Trulywonderful · 30/12/2023 15:55

Just side stepping away very very slowly again

XRAYTHIS · 30/12/2023 16:01

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 15:37

If I say anything on here it will be deleted, but there is a lot of information in the public domain and it’s not all “conspiracy theories”. Who bought the towers and took out massive insurance weeks before. Some people were found in a van filming it as it happened, the CIA took over from the NYPD and they were spirited away out of the country. There was no aircraft debris at the Pentagon, it was a missile. We’ve all seen the debris pictures from Lockerbie and many other places, nothing was found, if it had it would have been held up to the world as proof, it wasn’t. The US and its “allies” wanted to go into Iraq, they now had a reason.

But I’m derailing massively and this will probably be deleted and you will call me a nutcase, but do some critical thinking if you are interested.

There's a lot of bullshit in the public domain peddled by people who create any old rubbish rather than believe a terrorist organisation managed to put terrorists on planes with weapons and took over the planes and crashed them into buildings. There is a huge amount of witness information including from people who died ringing loved ones before dying saying they were going to take the plane back from the hijackers.

But no, to some it wasn't terrorists but an inside job to start a war. Nutjobs

XRAYTHIS · 30/12/2023 16:05

noblegiraffe · 30/12/2023 09:21

Oh because tiktok recently came up as fuelling the idea among youth that bin Laden was actually a good guy.

Where are you getting your conspiracy theory from then?

Was it the New World Order who masterminded 9/11? Or international bankers? The global elite? Secret rulers of the world? One needs to be on guard against this sort of antisemitism.

There are some seriously mentally ill on Tic toc, X and Instagram who will try to get others to believe all sorts, lizard people running the world, new world order, spying through mobile phone masts, aliens, covid vaccine given to us to kill us all off in 4 years etc etc. Sadly some vulnerable people and some thick as mince repeat it.

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 16:11

25milesfromhome · 30/12/2023 15:54

There was very little debris at the Pentagon because the plane was going so fast when it hit a heavily reinforced building that it totally disintegrated- it literally liquified. Science!

Did the wings fall off and disappear before impact then ? Black boxes are designed to withstand any impact…Science !

basculin · 30/12/2023 16:13

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 15:37

If I say anything on here it will be deleted, but there is a lot of information in the public domain and it’s not all “conspiracy theories”. Who bought the towers and took out massive insurance weeks before. Some people were found in a van filming it as it happened, the CIA took over from the NYPD and they were spirited away out of the country. There was no aircraft debris at the Pentagon, it was a missile. We’ve all seen the debris pictures from Lockerbie and many other places, nothing was found, if it had it would have been held up to the world as proof, it wasn’t. The US and its “allies” wanted to go into Iraq, they now had a reason.

But I’m derailing massively and this will probably be deleted and you will call me a nutcase, but do some critical thinking if you are interested.

you will call me a nutcase

If the shoe fits...

I can't help buy be curious who you think is responsible but you can't say without being deleted. I'm 50/50 of whether it's "zionists" or lizard people. * *

Who bought the towers and took out massive insurance weeks before.

Larry Silverstein? Yeah, I wonder what it is about him that draws the attention of conspiracy theorists...

You are being redirected...

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/antisemitic-conspiracies-about-911-endure-20-years-later

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 16:17

XRAYTHIS · 30/12/2023 16:01

There's a lot of bullshit in the public domain peddled by people who create any old rubbish rather than believe a terrorist organisation managed to put terrorists on planes with weapons and took over the planes and crashed them into buildings. There is a huge amount of witness information including from people who died ringing loved ones before dying saying they were going to take the plane back from the hijackers.

But no, to some it wasn't terrorists but an inside job to start a war. Nutjobs

Of course there is a lot of bullshit about, of course two passenger planes crashed into the world trade centre, I didn’t say they did not. 9/11 was years in the planning, but do you all seriously believe everything the US government tells you ! Of course it was a terrorist attack of the worse kind, but don’t be so sure that you know who was behind it.

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 16:19

basculin · 30/12/2023 16:13

you will call me a nutcase

If the shoe fits...

I can't help buy be curious who you think is responsible but you can't say without being deleted. I'm 50/50 of whether it's "zionists" or lizard people. * *

Who bought the towers and took out massive insurance weeks before.

Larry Silverstein? Yeah, I wonder what it is about him that draws the attention of conspiracy theorists...

Which allied governments wanted the public on side to go into Iraq ? I’m not just singling one out here, there were several. As I say this took years in the planning to destabilise the ME

25milesfromhome · 30/12/2023 16:21

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 16:11

Did the wings fall off and disappear before impact then ? Black boxes are designed to withstand any impact…Science !

Even a black box cannot withstand a high speed impact with a virtually bombproof building. Like I said- high speed object hitting very hard, dense, immovable object = almost total disintegration. Talking about wings falling off and disappearing and attempting sarcasm to disguise an inability to grasp physics is a completely different issue.

basculin · 30/12/2023 16:27

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 16:19

Which allied governments wanted the public on side to go into Iraq ? I’m not just singling one out here, there were several. As I say this took years in the planning to destabilise the ME

I don't know you tell me.

Girahim · 30/12/2023 17:33

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 16:19

Which allied governments wanted the public on side to go into Iraq ? I’m not just singling one out here, there were several. As I say this took years in the planning to destabilise the ME

Spell it out for us. Who, according to you was responsible for 9/11 and why. And what does it have to do with people supporting Hamas.

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 17:33

25milesfromhome · 30/12/2023 16:21

Even a black box cannot withstand a high speed impact with a virtually bombproof building. Like I said- high speed object hitting very hard, dense, immovable object = almost total disintegration. Talking about wings falling off and disappearing and attempting sarcasm to disguise an inability to grasp physics is a completely different issue.

The black box is always situated in the tail of the aircraft, and it’s very rare that nothing is recoverable, even if unreadable.

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 17:36

Girahim · 30/12/2023 17:33

Spell it out for us. Who, according to you was responsible for 9/11 and why. And what does it have to do with people supporting Hamas.

I’m sure you are just as capable of googling this. It has nothing to do with supporting Hamas, if read earlier posts, I said I was massively derailing the thread.
so let’s get back on subject shall we.

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 17:44

One last point….An inexperienced Cessna pilot would never be able to hand fly a 757 so close to the ground and execute a 55 knot descending turn ( which would cause the aircraft to break up before impact) to hit the Pentagon….. That’s where it gets complicated.

Girahim · 30/12/2023 17:48

Livinginanotherworld · 30/12/2023 17:36

I’m sure you are just as capable of googling this. It has nothing to do with supporting Hamas, if read earlier posts, I said I was massively derailing the thread.
so let’s get back on subject shall we.

I'm asking who you think is responsible. I'm not going to find that out through Google.