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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting the horror that is Hamas

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Brumbies · 29/11/2023 21:58

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Depdawg · 03/12/2023 07:48

DevonDiva · 02/12/2023 23:58

You really haven't - you have just suggested that the IDF must somehow have immunity to maintaining the human rights of children due to some sort of specialist knowledge? Just no. No security force, including the self-styled "most moral army in the world" has the right to torture or abuse children. You can acknowledge the abuses over the years by the IDF without excusing the violence of Hamas.

You can acknowledge the barbaric hunting down, out to kill as many Jews as possible, whilst still finding IDF actions excessive.
I'm getting a bit tired of seeing that phrased the other way round.
Be in possession of everything Hamas did that day and HOW they did it.
IDF are way way more aware of what these 'civilians' are capable of, more than me or you. * *

stomachameleon · 03/12/2023 08:38

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Trigger warning it's about sexual violence.

SomeCatFromJapan · 03/12/2023 11:35

So the sexual violence is finally being properly reported by the MSM, mentioned by the UN etc. Better late than never I suppose. It's a disgrace that it took as long as it did.

@DevonDiva I was meaning to address your points. I don't think the IDF behave perfectly, in fact far from it. The recent killing of the former policeman Yuval Castleman, who bravely stopped the bus stop terrorist attack, is a good example. He was shot by an IDF member with a settler background, and Netanhayu's dissmissal of the incident has caused widespread outrage. So I can well believe how heavy-handed, lethally so, members of the IDF are towards Palestinians.

I think the issue is that people want things to be black and white, good guys and bad guys. It can be true that Israel is currently lead by a right-wing bam, and that their army behaves with heavy-handedness, and also true that they suffered a pogrom with unimaginable levels of savagary and that Hamas do pose an existential threat to their existence.

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 03/12/2023 11:56

DevonDiva · 02/12/2023 15:59

You're minimising and excusing documented abuse of children. Why? It's possible to accept that there ongoing wrongs committed by Israel without diminishing the Hamas atrocities.

This is a thread about Hamas. Pay attention. You have a thread about the IDF's atrocities.

Depdawg · 03/12/2023 12:07

Well done our boys.

Depdawg · 03/12/2023 12:08

That's more like the reality of how they are treated, rather than the romanticised version.

Pizdietz · 03/12/2023 12:19

Re the IDF "behaving perfectly", this is a war that is happening on social media more than any other. We don't normally get exposed to these blow-by-blow accounts.

I know a guy who is suffering PTSD after military service in another country controlled by Islamofascism. He shot a young boy (about 10 years old) because the child refused to stop advancing towards him and his unit, with his hands behind his back. Afterwards a grenade was found in the child's hands, but the sniper will be traumatised for life by this.

DevonDiva · 03/12/2023 12:29

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 03/12/2023 11:56

This is a thread about Hamas. Pay attention. You have a thread about the IDF's atrocities.

My post was in direct response to Depdawg's comment on the IDF detention of children, so not me who needs to keep up thanks.

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 03/12/2023 12:40

DevonDiva · 30/11/2023 20:35

I don't need to be told how evil Hamas are. I know. And we don't need to quibble about the details of how many / exactly what happened. It's tinkering around the edges of what was a truly horrific assault. But it's not being a terrorist apologist to say that IDF have also committed atrocities - not just now but over the last decades. Balance and context is needed on both sides.

You do need to keep up.
Why mention the IDF on a Hama thread.😩

SomeCatFromJapan · 03/12/2023 13:47

I'm glad the RAF will be assisting as that's further independent verification of Hamas positions in Gaza.

Trulywonderful · 04/12/2023 00:08

Oh I like a tunnel article. We had a good thread about the tunnels until the space invaders ruined it because they don't like factual information

Thanks

SomeCatFromJapan · 04/12/2023 08:37

Now that there is plenty of evidence of the tunnels, the topic has gone remarkably quiet

On an almost comical note, Hamas are now giving voting advice to the US.

Documenting the horror that is Hamas
Trulywonderful · 04/12/2023 08:50

Didn't you know Hamas is really into the whole democratic election process. They just can't get enough of elections in general.

That has given me my morning laugh. Not that Biden is someone fit to be president but still voting advice from Hamas. We officially have entered the twilight zone.

Trulywonderful · 04/12/2023 08:59

Yes sadly tunnel talk went the way so many credible discussions have gone. First invaded by posts saying IDF and all reporters from years back are lying. Then once evidence starts becoming more available they spam with Simpson style but what about the children posts not related to the thread. Same happening on other threads currently. It is a shame because we have had some very informative posts and some users that have knowledge of the area totally ignored under a pile of irrelevant posts.

Trulywonderful · 04/12/2023 09:37

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Documenting the horror that is Hamas
Brumbies · 04/12/2023 11:38

Another link confirming rape not just of women but also men by the terrorist Hamas. Not for the faint hearted.

Hamas 'raped men as well as women during October 7 attack'
mol.im/a/12822271

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Trulywonderful · 04/12/2023 11:59

Thank you for the warning. I don't stomach these things will so won't open

I did see a someone online saying about men getting raped too yesterday. That is all the information along with you saying it happened I need. I am not Owen Jones I don't need videos of it happening in order to believe it is possible

Iwantcakeeveryday · 04/12/2023 12:09

That link should not be clicked on unless you're prepared to see as well as read some terrible terrible things. Shame on anyone who hesitated to believe the stories of rape. Now that men are involved, I suspect more will be willing to talk about it. One mans account of what he saw, and has to live with forever, is truly... its just horrendous.

Hamas are just one group, there are 11 vile inhumane terrorist organisations in Gaza, and they ALL WANT TO DO THIS TO JEWS. Fucking bastards.

SomeCatFromJapan · 04/12/2023 16:07

I didn't realise that there was also a beach attack on 7 October.
As expected, many of the comments are denialist, anti-Semitic trash.

https://twitter.com/hearnimator/status/1731650014009606424

https://twitter.com/hearnimator/status/1731650014009606424

Depdawg · 04/12/2023 16:15

SomeCatFromJapan · 04/12/2023 16:07

I didn't realise that there was also a beach attack on 7 October.
As expected, many of the comments are denialist, anti-Semitic trash.

https://twitter.com/hearnimator/status/1731650014009606424

Seeing those young lads on the floor, not knowing what their fate would be.
Awful.

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