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Conflict in the Middle East

Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 18:50

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EllaDisenchanted · 20/12/2023 08:27

It’s also all men in the video. Not a good sign in my opinion.

I'm not sure who would arrest him? He came from Qatar to Egypt, I don’t think either country would because wouldn’t it be seen to be stepping in in a major (non neutral) way?

Parkingt111 · 20/12/2023 08:30

The reports I have seen also mention the release of hostages who are men.
I hope that as part of the deal they have to say who they know for sure is alive, as the not knowing for the families is torture.

Oh yes I suppose he can only be arrested if he enters a non neutral country

Efacsen · 20/12/2023 08:51

@Parkingt111 this is his second trip to Egypt since 7/10 ! As political leader of Hamas he's been on some kind of US no-fly list since Bush's era - expect he has a private jet. takes his armed bodyguards and is back home in double quick time

However, all those precautions didn't save the founder of Wagner in the long run and Hanieya's luck will eventually run out too when he's no longer of use in the ongoing negotiations

PeasfullPerson · 20/12/2023 08:53

I suppose he is needed for negotiations and like @EllaDisenchanted I’m also not really sure who would initiate his arrest.

Yes! I hope they at least give the hostages families the peace of mind that comes with certainty. Then again there are many families in Gaza who don’t know what has happened to their children, so they might not have the heart to do that. I think if they want to continue trying to destroy each other, and inadvertently themselves, then they should carry on going lower and lower with their barbaric actions. If they want peace then they should take the difficult step of aiming to be better than those they perceive as their enemy. To me, the latter is a sign of strength, and the former a sign of weakness.

stomachameleon · 20/12/2023 11:43

I have read today that it appears Noa Argamani is not with Hamas at all not with Gazan 'civilians' who participated in 7/10.

Her family must be beside themselves. I just pray she is being treated well.

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/12/2023 11:48

I have a horrible feeling she'd have been better off with Hamas, as they at least will have approached the hostage taking with a slightly more coherent political strategy.

stomachameleon · 20/12/2023 12:04

This is the thing that makes me cross. Hamas can say they will play ball and release hostages but then as with the Bibas family play dumb and say... we Don't have them.

This is why it's imperative the Red Cross are allowed to check on hostages whoever has them. As soon as it happened I was concerned this would occur. Someone else would be blamed, responsibility shifted. Either they have control or they don't? Hamas are just charlatans.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 20/12/2023 12:33

I've started a part 3 for this thread. I don't know how to link it here, sorry.

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