March against antisemitism on Sunday

[SharonEllis]

1.30 pm Royal Courts of Justice to Parliament Square

Derailing, Derailing, Derailing

You have to ask yourself why some posters come on an antisemitism thread to talk about other things or moan about an individual poster that is openly Jewish, don't you

Surprise it is not but worth remembering who they are when reading their posts on other threads. That way you have a better more rounded view of them as a poster In general. Another good reason to have antisemitism threads on the conflict board.

I didn't even think about it as a crime but I suppose you are right

To me it is just a lame prank. Well not even a prank really because there is nothing funny or imaginative about it

I don't know or care what religion you are, I don't know what your stance on Netanyahu is, you are just one poster of many on this board.

Everybody who reads this board though knows what Netanyahu has said "This is a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle.", in case you somehow managed to miss it. Your post had echos of it, now that you are more informed you can decide if you want to continue mimicking a post that was widely considered offensive and dehumanising.

It's not ridiculous! Unless your grasp of English isn't up to scratch? @quiteoldad She's NOT saying "every critic of Israel is an antisemite". People like you are doing so much damage putting words into the mouths of Jews. It's quite clear she meant opposition to Israel as a country/its people implies antisemitism. That's it! Nothing to do with government, policy or administration (which would be fine and not antisemitic!!).

I think it is very important you clarified that because I also read the original statement as meaning any criticism of Israel is antisemitic. Of course the majority of people are not criticising the existence of Israel but it's actions. Its government, policies, illegal occupations, genocide, its politicians horrendous racist statements about Palestinians, their imprisonment without trial of Palestinian children and their soldiers shooting dead children in the Westbank.

@OuiOuiKitty Star Wars is dehumanising and offensive?

@Trulywonderful back to the dog whistle mentality.

Maybe she means the sequels, they were pretty bad.

I mean if you don't have the ability to read my post I'm not sure why you bothered to reply to me.

@OuiOuiKitty because like you I have taken some completely unrelated to what we are talking about and tried to make it relevant.
She explained her quote.
It wasn't good enough for you.
I have pointed out the ridiculousness of it with a bit of light bants.

Jewish people explain this to me. Jewish person why do you not reply to all my numerous posts aimed at you individually. Why can't you repeat the same thing hundreds of times when I could just go read it on another thread or do some research of my own. Jewish person you are being mean too me/ another poster if you don't do what we ask of you.

Well if you're engaged in a discussion then I think replying to posts and answering questions is pretty standard actually.

No one owes anyone on this forum anything.

Demands that another poster does work for your benefit are perfectly acceptable to ignore.

No one owes anyone on this forum anything.

Demands that another poster does work for your benefit are perfectly acceptable to ignore

Maybe so but it’s just strange to make a statement and then just expect the other person to either take you at your word or go off and “do some research”. It’s always struck me as a bit lazy (obviously a lot of people do this not just the person I am talking with on this thread).

If you do cite sources then the other person doesn’t benefit as such but they are perhaps more likely to take your argument seriously.

Depends on whether you think the poster is worth it or not.

Some posters are definitely not.

Depends on whether you think the poster is worth it or not.

Some posters are definitely not

What did this poster do to be not worth it? (genuine question)

Truly clearly couldn't be arsed with them, and that's entirely her prerogative.

Nobody should be demanding or expecting anyone else answers questions, actually. A poster who uses a word, and gets its meaning wrong, is not entitled to demand that another poster explains the meaning to them. That its fucking ridiculous. To keep going on and on harassing a poster because they've chosen not to engage if they think someone is not acting in good faith, is also against guidelines.

Answer me! Answer me! Educate me! Educate me! Educate me!

I am so sorry to the jewish posters dealing with this. All I can say is I understand, it happens a lot to posters of colour, especially here. We have a right to say, actually, not today. Today I am not going over it again. Not with you.

Nobody should be demanding or expecting anyone else answers questions, actually. A poster who uses a word, and gets its meaning wrong, is not entitled to demand that another poster explains the meaning to them. That its fucking ridiculous. To keep going on and on harassing a poster because they've chosen not to engage if they think someone is not acting in good faith, is also against guidelines.

Answer me! Answer me! Educate me! Educate me! Educate me!

I’m not really harassing anybody am I? The poster I was talking to originally has stopped responding to me and I’m not actually demanding she does am I? I’m responding to the people who reply to my posts but maybe I’m not supposed to do that either.

If a neighbouring country eg Wales' (impossible of course ) government terrorist organisation were to invade England, and commit the same atrocities, I am 100 % certain that England would push back even harder than Israel who seem pretty restrained actually and humanitarian in their pauses. I would also imagine that the English would drape themselves in the cross of St George in solidarity and support in this circumstance - much like France did after liberation when Germany invaded (twice). Flags are a symbol of support (like at football matches) and solidarity and national pride.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2019/08/25/paris-celebrates-its-th/

I think OuiOuiKitty was referring to people in the UK draped in the Israeli flag not people in Israel so your analogy doesn't really work

I am 100 % certain that England would push back even harder than Israel who seem pretty restrained actually
Restrained? Can you elaborate on what their response should have been if you think killing over 10,000 innocent civilians is restrained. Good gry

I am forced to agree as Kitty did say "foreign country."

You are right.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/palestine-israel-hate-crime-antisemitism-b2456827.html

"Stamford Hill has seen cars set on fire, and visibly Jewish people threatened with being stabbed as they visit their local shopping precinct.

In one incident, a hooded figure in a black face covering was caught on CCTV splashing the walls of a local school in red paint."

"In a separate incident, a man was arrested after CCTV showed a flaming box left underneath a family saloon car shortly before it caught alight outside a woman’s home."

"An attack on a Muslim mother walking alongside her three children, aged 16, five and three, in Stoke Newington when she was verbally and physically assaulted.
The female attacker made Islamophobic remarks, called the victim a “monkey”, and told her: “Go back home, go back to your country.” She then assaulted her, scratching her under her eye and drawing blood, and hitting her on the head, shoulders and arms."

“We are talking about families of young girls coming home from school and being pushed into the road and shouted at,” he says. “They are not Muslims, these people who are shouting at the Jewish community. They are from different ethnic minority communities, but they now shout ‘Free, free Palestine’ and commit hate crimes targeting the Jewish community.

“It’s happening all over. At supermarkets and clothes stores, they say: ‘We are not serving you Jewish people.’ "