People tearing down posters of Israeli hostages - what is this supposed to convey?

[WilmaWonka]

Just seen another article about someone tearing down posters of kidnapped Israelis.

This time an apparently well known ‘feminist’ artist who stated that she was ‘getting rid of the shit’.

Posters of civilian women and children, many who’ve seen family members murdered horrifically in front of them and are being held captive by the very people who carried out those atrocities, experiencing god knows what horrors in captivity. There can’t be a logical expectation that a government that carried out brutal murders, gang rapes, mutilation, and burnt babies and children alive would be treating them humanely!

Obviously that’s her reason for doing so and there’s been many other videos and reports of people in the UK and other countries doing the same quite openly. I’m quite old and I’ve never seen anything like this in my life before.

Would this be happening if they weren’t Israelis?

Do these people not understand that the barbaric murders and kidnapping of Israelis was the reason this war started in the first place, do they think these kidnappings are fake news?

Are they trying to convey that these kidnappings don’t matter as the Palestinians have been held in an ‘open air prison’, in total ignorance of why Israel had to blockade itself from them for the protection of its civilians?

Really can’t get my head around it.

So much more effective than my long winded response 😆

This thread is asking people to "search their brain" for why people might tear down those posters. So I did. I wouldn't tear them down. I thought about why someone might do it. It's hardly the strongest act of violence in this whole fucking mess.

You said “ think I can also see why people with connections in Palestine might feel incensed about these posters in London (because what are they for, really?)”

No - not the strongest act of violence - just ignorant and callous .

@WilmaWonka can I have a link to the news? Thanks

@feralunderclass most are held for offences, including attempted stabbings and making explosives. Very comparable to the Israeli hostages...

Oh yes something gets put on their report, from stone throwing to stabbing. That doesn't mean there is any evidence that they've done the offence. Do you really think Israel are going to let out women and children who've actually murdered someone?

@feralunderclass they are not letting out anyone who have murdered. These are some people who have tried. Hardly innocents.

What I ask time and time again - where are all the protests about Pakistan expelling Afghans as we speak? As of March 2023, more than 70k Afghan and Pakistani civilians are estimated to have died as a direct result of the war. Who cares? Russians and Assad killing Syrians - 30k children dead so far, I believe? Where is all the outrage? Myanmar? Sudan? Thousands and thousands of people killed, where are all the tears and demonstrations? Ukraine - war is still raging, children kidnapped and dying?

Is this Hamas - Israel conflict so easy to shout about because Israel (Jews) is involved? somehow, it looks like it.

@WilmaWonka the people that tear down the posters are vile. It looks to me like they delight in it. It also looks to me like blatant anti semitism. Any excuse to hate on Jewish people and be aggressive.

Yes 😣
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/pro-palestine-activist-claims-cleaning-street-rips-posters-kidnapped-children/

Glad to see they've been put back up. https://twitter.com/AmiKaufman/status/1727270772312551602

I am so glad.

I don’t understand your point

The posters are up to remind people that Hamas have kidnapped a whole bunch of people.

If you tear them down you are tearing down pictures of victims of crime. You are supporting the perpetrators of that crime in your actions (Hamas, not Palestinians, Hamas).

I don’t really get this, I would not be tearing down pictures of Israeli OR Palestinian children/adults who are missing or dead. Why would you.

Holocaust relativism by scholars is one of the driving factors behind the resurgance of antisemitism.

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Did Ukrainians post posters of their missing loved ones in London?

Did Iraqis?

Did Syrians?

Did Afghanis?

I mean I could go on, but I’m sure you get my point. Ask yourself why anyone would do that? Are these missing people to be found in London?

I'm surprised too about how many people are antisemitic and how many people think this is OK.
Those hostages are innocent people it does not matter where they are from , I feel very sad to see the world not talking more about the hostages, about all those children who are under tunnels suffering we don't know how many things...
I feel sad seeing young and ( I thought open mind) people supporting hamas actions when they are terrorist and very cruel ones.

I'm pretty sure that most of the pictures are of people with dual citizenship, and/or family in Britain, so it is our business.

To some extent I agree with you. I think all people have done with their 'boycott Isreal' campaigns is prolong the conflict. It's a local problem and needs a local solution. People should mind their own business.

However, by murdering and kidnapping dual nationals, Hamas has created an international incident.

So jewish can't post posters because is London but is OK to have pro palestinian March's in London? Anyone should feel free to speak in London!

They are just posters of hostages to remember the world their faces and stories because it seems the world are dehumanising them as you are doing.

Yes exactly, it’s to remind people that these are innocents, many of them babies and children. I don’t think anyone would object if there were posters of Palestinian, Ukrainian, Iraqi civilians put up in London to remind people of the victims of war and terrorism and, in the case of hostages, the chance of diplomatic action that might see them reunited with their families.

but why are you so bothered by the posters? I can see pro-palestinin stickers everywhere, do I need to tear them down?

Do you apply that to pro Palestinian marches or just pictures of Jewish children?

I must add that I'm also very surprised with all the antisemitism. It seems like this conflict allowed people to say openly what they clearly thought all along and were not saying, as it was generally unacceptable until recently to say openly something along the lines "Jews have all the money they are evil". I have been hearing all sorts of 1930s rhetoric from people I was not expecting to hear it from, and its scary. I did not expected UK to be like this.

Those tearing down the posters lack compassion and decency. They disgust me.