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Conflict in the Middle East

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians

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Finallyloggedin · 21/11/2023 13:11

It’s just heartbreaking. I’ve seen videos on twitter that are beyond anything I can even begin to describe. Palestinians are being murdered in their thousands and the western media is largely pretending it’s not happening.

The average age of the people who have been killed in Gaza is FIVE years old.

The UK media are not showing how the Israeli government is openly talking about, and cheerleading genocide now. Israeli government speaks about Palestinians as if they are not humans. They are saying women are targets as they can have babies. I’ve just read how, since October 7th they have taken over 5,000 Palestinians from the West Bank and tortured them. They were already routinely arresting Palestinians and taking them away from their family with no reason and no but this is not being adequately reported.

Please, please visit sites such as 972 magazine and declassified uk. The BBC, etc, unfortunately aren’t reporting the extent to what is going on.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-and-its-allies-are-repurposing-the-goals-and-lies-of-1948-in-gaza-in-2023/

Israel and its allies are repurposing the goals and lies of 1948 – in Gaza in 2023

Israel is openly carrying out ethnic cleansing inside Gaza, driving Palestinians outside their homeland as happened in 1948. And yet, just as during the first “Nakba”, Israel's lies and deceptions dominate the West’s media and political narrative.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-and-its-allies-are-repurposing-the-goals-and-lies-of-1948-in-gaza-in-2023/

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Auvergne63 · 12/01/2024 20:46

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 18:48

Jesus was a Jew and I have no doubt if he were alive today he would be standing with many brave Jews around the world who are demonstrating against the genocide of the Palestinians

What a factual comment..Confused

He could just as easily (as he was somewhat of a rebel rouser) be demonstrating for the release of the hostages held or grieving the loss of his whole family murdered in kibbutz Be'eri. Unlikely to be living peacefully in Nazareth.

Is your comment factual too?

Auvergne63 · 12/01/2024 20:49

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 18:49

@hogmanayhoolie it's odd how many people chose to go on holiday to an 'open air prison' or race their horses there?

Could you provide facts/links about the tourism industry in Gaza ,as well as the horse racing one, please?

Parkingt111 · 12/01/2024 20:55

It's pretty offensive to many to call Jesus a rebel rouser

Toothyfruity · 12/01/2024 21:02

Jesus was pretty famously against vengeance.

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 21:22

@Parkingt111 if you knew me at all in rl you would think that statement is hilarious...

Anyway... that what I meant

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians
Auvergne63 · 12/01/2024 21:22

Parkingt111 · 12/01/2024 20:55

It's pretty offensive to many to call Jesus a rebel rouser

It shows a lack of understanding of his ministry and what he preached.
(I taught religious education for 20 years whilst having no faith.
I am no expert but I have some knowledge of the main religions).
This is indeed offensive as it reduces the holy status of Christ to someone who stirs up anger, hate and/or violence; the antithesis of who Christ is for Christians.

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 21:25

I meant 'rabble- rouser' apologies...

A person who says, does or writes things that make crowds of people excited or angry.

EasterIssland · 12/01/2024 21:25

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 18:49

@hogmanayhoolie it's odd how many people chose to go on holiday to an 'open air prison' or race their horses there?

Again this comment ? You did it not a long time ago. And I remember replying to it saying that there is no “going on hols” as you go to other parts in the world and that mainly those going on hols are going for business or visiting family. Def not the type of hols and this is because Israel does not allow it.

but don’t worry once Israel has destroyed it all and built the homes and hotels … everyone will be able to go on hols

also, I’m happy you don’t see it as an open air prison. It’s a shame organisations around the world don’t agree with you and have got more reasons than “but they can have a horse racing, why are they complaining about the restrictions imposed on them!”

Auvergne63 · 12/01/2024 21:25

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 21:22

@Parkingt111 if you knew me at all in rl you would think that statement is hilarious...

Anyway... that what I meant

In that case, you appear to misunderstand the meaning of what a rebel rouser.

Auvergne63 · 12/01/2024 21:27

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 21:25

I meant 'rabble- rouser' apologies...

A person who says, does or writes things that make crowds of people excited or angry.

A Freudian slip?

Parkingt111 · 12/01/2024 21:28

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 21:22

@Parkingt111 if you knew me at all in rl you would think that statement is hilarious...

Anyway... that what I meant

I see you didn't mean in that way

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 21:41

@Auvergne63 ' a rock and roll instrumental song written by Duane Eddy?'

Please stop looking for offence where there is none intended.

Kindatired · 12/01/2024 23:17

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 18:48

Jesus was a Jew and I have no doubt if he were alive today he would be standing with many brave Jews around the world who are demonstrating against the genocide of the Palestinians

What a factual comment..Confused

He could just as easily (as he was somewhat of a rebel rouser) be demonstrating for the release of the hostages held or grieving the loss of his whole family murdered in kibbutz Be'eri. Unlikely to be living peacefully in Nazareth.

No.
He didn’t live peacefully in Nazaraeth for sure and he was always on the road
His message was of forgiveness and reconciliation
He would be calling for the release of the hostages but also
Feed the hungry
Give water
Give shelter
Bury the dead
Free/visit captives and prisoners
Bury the dead

Moonwatcher1234 · 12/01/2024 23:52

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 18:49

@hogmanayhoolie it's odd how many people chose to go on holiday to an 'open air prison' or race their horses there?

Your lack of knowledge is embarrassing. To whom are you referring as going on holiday or racing horses there?

Finallyloggedin · 13/01/2024 08:52

@Stomacharmeleon some time ago you were going to get back to me about what you feel Palestinian resistance should look like - not what it shouldn’t - but what it should. Appreciate that we are all busy but saw that you have been posting so wonder if you can share your thoughts on this?

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Auvergne63 · 13/01/2024 08:59

stomachameleon · 12/01/2024 21:41

@Auvergne63 ' a rock and roll instrumental song written by Duane Eddy?'

Please stop looking for offence where there is none intended.

The irony!

Xenia · 13/01/2024 09:56

A lot of the language from the Palestinian side and social media posts has been very emotive and misleading - genocide etc etc when the fact is Hamas chose to do what it did knowing full well this would be Israel's 9/11 as Hamas behaves very like ISIS and is a terrorist organisation, an enemy of the nations of democracy and peace like the US, UK and Israel.

This has all suited Hamas quite well as it was very concerned as presumably was Iran and our other enemies about Israel reaching agreements with countries near by.

Everything lies at the feet of Hamas.

Parker231 · 13/01/2024 09:59

Xenia · 13/01/2024 09:56

A lot of the language from the Palestinian side and social media posts has been very emotive and misleading - genocide etc etc when the fact is Hamas chose to do what it did knowing full well this would be Israel's 9/11 as Hamas behaves very like ISIS and is a terrorist organisation, an enemy of the nations of democracy and peace like the US, UK and Israel.

This has all suited Hamas quite well as it was very concerned as presumably was Iran and our other enemies about Israel reaching agreements with countries near by.

Everything lies at the feet of Hamas.

The conduct of the IDF is hardly to be congratulated. You seem to be confusing Hamas - guilty and the innocent Palestinian people who have had their lives destroyed (if they haven’t already been killed).

Auvergne63 · 13/01/2024 11:00

Parker231 · 13/01/2024 09:59

The conduct of the IDF is hardly to be congratulated. You seem to be confusing Hamas - guilty and the innocent Palestinian people who have had their lives destroyed (if they haven’t already been killed).

Hamas is totally responsible for what they did on 07/10, the Israeli government/IDF for what they have done since then.
The argument that "they started it therefore I can do anything to them back" is the logic of a playground fight. I heard it so many times as a teacher.

AdrianaLaCerva · 13/01/2024 13:32

WatTyler · 21/11/2023 13:48

Anyone who thinks Israel is undertaking a genocide of Palestinians simply doesn't know what the word means. The only genocide planned here is of the Jews by Hamas.
Hamas cannot fight the IDF like real soldiers so their only weapon is to manipulate international public opinion to try to force a ceasefire. They do this with exaggerated and unsubstantiated claims of non-combatant casualties - blatant propaganda - on social media, exactly as the OP is trying to do here.
For Israel, ceasefire means surrender, and allowing Hamas time to regroup and re-arm before launching another 7/10.
There can be no ceasefire until the IDF have killed every Hamas murderer they can catch, and destroyed Hamas' infrastructure to the extent they can never repeat that outrage. Expect nothing less.

Excellent post. I agree with you.

saveallthewhales · 13/01/2024 13:38

AdrianaLaCerva · 13/01/2024 13:32

Excellent post. I agree with you.

I think this is essentially correct and it clarifies what the IDF are undoubtedly trying to do in my opinion.

Parkingt111 · 13/01/2024 13:52

A new York Times investigation found Israel used 2000 pound bombs (one of the mosf destructive munitions) including in areas that it asked civilians to evacuate too. More than 200 zones that civilians were asked to move to were then bombed

The below is from the New York Times and contains some images that are upsetting
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1K6EeyuF36/?igsh=eW9tNWNtbXA3dnl1

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1K6EeyuF36?igsh=eW9tNWNtbXA3dnl1

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 13/01/2024 14:02

WatTyler · 21/11/2023 13:48

Anyone who thinks Israel is undertaking a genocide of Palestinians simply doesn't know what the word means. The only genocide planned here is of the Jews by Hamas.
Hamas cannot fight the IDF like real soldiers so their only weapon is to manipulate international public opinion to try to force a ceasefire. They do this with exaggerated and unsubstantiated claims of non-combatant casualties - blatant propaganda - on social media, exactly as the OP is trying to do here.
For Israel, ceasefire means surrender, and allowing Hamas time to regroup and re-arm before launching another 7/10.
There can be no ceasefire until the IDF have killed every Hamas murderer they can catch, and destroyed Hamas' infrastructure to the extent they can never repeat that outrage. Expect nothing less.

An older post but a good one.

stomachameleon · 13/01/2024 16:08

@Finallyloggedin sorry would you mind reminding me what you asked me? Is it on this post? Sorry for not getting back to you.

Auvergne63 · 14/01/2024 15:49

Anyone who thinks Israel is undertaking a genocide of Palestinians simply doesn't know what the word means.
If you say so.
Hamas cannot fight the IDF like real soldiers
Maybe that's because they are not soldiers?
so their only weapon is to manipulate international public opinion to try to force a ceasefire. They do this with exaggerated and unsubstantiated claims of non-combatant casualties - blatant propaganda - on social media, exactly as the OP is trying to do here.
Please provide links to support your claims of exaggerated civilians casualties, otherwise your claims are unsubstantiated.
There can be no ceasefire until the IDF have killed every Hamas murderer they can catch, and destroyed Hamas' infrastructure to the extent they can never repeat that outrage. Expect nothing less.
In essence, it doesn't matter to you how many civilians die in the process.
Expect nothing less.
This sounds like a threat to me. Who are you threatening?

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