Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians

[Finallyloggedin]

It’s just heartbreaking. I’ve seen videos on twitter that are beyond anything I can even begin to describe. Palestinians are being murdered in their thousands and the western media is largely pretending it’s not happening.

The average age of the people who have been killed in Gaza is FIVE years old.

The UK media are not showing how the Israeli government is openly talking about, and cheerleading genocide now. Israeli government speaks about Palestinians as if they are not humans. They are saying women are targets as they can have babies. I’ve just read how, since October 7th they have taken over 5,000 Palestinians from the West Bank and tortured them. They were already routinely arresting Palestinians and taking them away from their family with no reason and no but this is not being adequately reported.

Please, please visit sites such as 972 magazine and declassified uk. The BBC, etc, unfortunately aren’t reporting the extent to what is going on.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-and-its-allies-are-repurposing-the-goals-and-lies-of-1948-in-gaza-in-2023/

So how much retaliation do you want? How much heinous violence is the Idf allowed? Because they have had revenge x50 at least now.

apple.news/AS_mfaWYjQHOwoBfwq-UfkQ

Statement from Israeli government about Gaza post warS

what a COMPLETELY different set of people did?

@Finallyloggedin I don't really understand the logic? Hamas and Islamic jihad oh and numerous normal civilians participated in 7/10.

Very moving article, thanks for sharing.

Wow, that’s such a raw and emotional post. He clearly took the time to research and reference all his statements because he knew the hell that would break loose and that people would be out to smear him once he wrote that. It’s so sad in the end it didn’t make a difference and he still lost his job for speaking up for humanity. I will look into tech for Palestine, thanks for the recommendation. I’m already familiar with Gaza sky Geeks. It’s a fantastic organization which I’d recommend to people looking for initiatives in Gaza to support.

https://gazaskygeeks.com/

@VeritasEtJustitia that blog is beautiful, many thanks for sharing. I wish everyone would read it.

archive.is/2024.01.05-161301/www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-authority-hamas-terrorists-payments-israel-gaza-oct-7-898c5a4b

@Stomacharmeleon wasn't it Netanyahu who also approved sending over suitcases of cash to Hamas through Israel? Millions of dollars

I don't know much about the above what you posted so can't comment on that.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/12/11/israel-sent-suitcases-stuffed-with-cash-into-gaza-for-years/

@Parkingt111 it was an article posted today so thought you might find it interesting as it obviously deals with things happening now. In the middle of conflict.

And I don't think it's in doubt that Netanyahu made a grave error in the way he treated Hamas. I am glad he won't make the same mistake again and I am sure he will be leaving office soon.

Bloody disgusting.
I know medics who have gone on aid missions to Gaza who say the same thing.

It’s no different to the IDF being paid to slaughter thousands of innocent children. Or the manufacturers of phosphorus bombs being paid by Israel for their wares. People in glasshouses etc.

As a side note, why does Israel collect tax revenue for another country?

Sorry stomachameleon you probably think I’m attacking you personally. I don’t mean to. Just pointing out that a lot of money changes hands for weapons and violence and killing of innocent people on all sides.

@Thereissomelight I haven't taken it personally. I know you feel passionately about this and I have seen you at work

I'm a feminist. From early days, I've discussed the fact that 50,000 pregnant women were in Gaza at the start of the war and probably a large number since the bombardment. That's out of what, 2 or 2.5 million Gazans? Add this to the stat of half of Gazans are under 18. Lots of children and pregnant women who can't run or move as fast as other demographic groups.

Beyond choices of IDF to bomb-and whether or not they are being strategic to eliminating Hamas, when looking at these horrific demographic facts, feminists also see other factors that get us to this mess: Why are there such high rates of pregnancy and birth in a country? What resources preexisted to support them and how are they being accessed now? Are these women choosing this? Why can't they use birth control, get abortions or tell their husbands no? Why weren't they planned for before Hamas's attack on Oct 7?

Answers to those questions do not put blame just on Israel, mind you. The situation is very complicated but we have to ask how we got to place where so many women were so vulnerable in the first place and how to prevent this in the future.

I heard an NPR report just yesterday discussing the unique and harrowing situation for post partum women who don't have access to sanitary pads for bleeding, not to mention other issues. The women are also less likely to tell aid workers what they need, this reporter found. Then, the reporter, who had an absolute perfect segue into why (hello, they live under a very patriarchal cultural that shames women and limits their activities), instead obfuscated by saying, the women have traditional values so aren't likely to discuss female reproductive needs. I'm like WTAF? Blame the women again and make it seem like this is on them.

@Delphinium20 I find some of what you are saying quite offensive to women but I was thinking about how best to articulate that and I just saw this article, which I think is well worth a read -

https://www.972mag.com/palestinian-jewish-feminists-women-liberation-gaza-fence/

@Finallyloggedin
Great article. You can’t condemn the rapes that have been perpetrated by one side without equally condemning those that have been perpetrated by the other side.

And the warmongers and killers and home-wreckers promote conditions of violence and chaos which allows these toxic rapists to behave as they choose with no fear of repercussion.

Thanks for posting.

Important quotes are:

"Mr Netanyahu’s approval of the payments, which added up to billions of dollars in total, was a political gamble driven by the belief that a steady flow of cash would ensure peace in Gaza after a 2014 war in the enclave, the officials said."

"But Israel’s allies had long assessed that Hamas was skimming off funds from the cash disbursements, with some of the funds diverted to the group’s military wings, one senior Western diplomat said.
"Risking Israel’s safety with payments Israel’s Mossad spy agency also eventually came to conclude that Qatar was using funding channels to secretly finance Hamas’s military arm, the New York Times reported."

Problems down to Qatar and Hamas using the funds to start wars.

Good god, what the hell did I say that was offensive to women? Seriously, if you can't explain it in simple words, how can I believe you? You asked to hear from an actual feminist, so I gave you my feedback.

I can tell you what I found offensive about your post. It’s the implied victim blaming of Palestinian women for having too many babies and the implied racism/Islamophia that perhaps it’s that they “can’t say no” to their husbands or use birth control due to their culture, patriarchy, and them not having a voice. What exactly do you know about Palestinian culture? Do you know any Palestinians from Gaza? Have you met any mothers, women, fathers, husbands or men from Gaza?

FYI most Christians and Muslims in the Middle East tend to avoid abortion because children are seen as a gift from God. People have big families because family and community is important. Because extended families are often involved in childcare and they help raise them.

and perhaps in Gaza women have more children because Israel keeps killing the ones they’ve already got.

excellent article btw @Finallyloggedin thanks for sharing.

I can tell you what I found offensive about your post. It’s the implied victim blaming of Palestinian women

My precise critique of the reports was that they were victim blaming Palestinian women. Maybe read.

“can’t say no” to their husbands or use birth control due to their culture, patriarchy, and them not having a voice

Can they? Is abortion free and on demand? Can women easily divorce? If those questions are no, then we are looking at a patriarchal culture and it's correct that feminists tend to critique those. We care about liberation for women, not political goals of countries.