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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture

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Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 04:25

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardment of Gaza and across decades of military occupation in the West Bank.

to start, here is a video of Israeli soldiers chanting they will turn Gazans into Kebabs.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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Auvergne63 · 15/11/2023 09:14

Brumbies · 15/11/2023 07:38

Then you should balance this with videos of Hamas raping and killing babies and women.

Why you and others seem to believe that it is acceptable to pit one horror against another?
This thread is about what is happening now in Gaza at the hands of the IDF.
Please post videos of what horrors are happening in Israel now at the hands of Hamas in the name of balance.

FOJN · 15/11/2023 09:15

orangegato · 15/11/2023 07:07

Any of Hamas killing babies? No?

The Israeli government has been screening images of Oct 7th to journalists, the UN and anyone else they want to support their war crimes in Gaza whilst claiming they want to give the victims dignity.

Hamas are terrorists, it's not really a shocker to find out they aren't very nice.

More than 11000 Gazans, including 4500 children, have been killed as punishment for crimes committed by Hamas. We don't actually know the real number because the systems for collecting that information have failed inside the hell that is Gaza.

When will the world's most moral army be held accountable for their crimes?

When babies are dying for want of the basics for survival, denied them by a democratically elected government, you have no moral high ground to stand on.

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Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 09:16

Kendodd · 15/11/2023 09:06

Gaza has a super high birth rate. For some reason, people in dire situations always have lots of children.

For anyone arguing that Jews aren't oppressed though, here's some numbers for you. In the time of Jesus, Jews made up about 2% of the global population. Now they make up 0.2 while other demographics have all grown. I should add for balance, the biggest reason for shrink now is marrying out, not any other threat.

No one is trying to argue Jews haven’t been oppressed, or that Jews like other minorities aren’t the victims of ongoing hate speech or suffering. Jews have been oppressed throughout history and that is rightly acknowledged.

however it’s also true that Jews don’t have a monopoly on oppression or suffering, and just because Jews have been subjected to atrocities, doesn’t mean that any Jew who commit acts of oppression, or inflicts suffering on others - including soldiers acting on behalf of a state that espouses Jewish supremacy - , can do so with impunity. Calling this behaviour out doesn’t making someone a Jew hater or antisemite.

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FOJN · 15/11/2023 09:18

JSMill · 15/11/2023 09:05

Why is someone posting in a foreign language?

Cut and paste job, thinks it makes them look clever.

Parkingt111 · 15/11/2023 09:19

There are some in the IDF who are on a power trip and then others who are just pure evil. It makes me so mad to see how they humiliate the Palestinians
And in the west bank this is on a daily basis

Parkingt111 · 15/11/2023 09:22

This is from the times of Israel
It's disgusting

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-soldiers-film-themselves-abusing-humiliating-west-bank-palestinians/

Creatingusernamesismygame · 15/11/2023 09:28

For those wanting to see videos of the atrocities of Hamas against Jewish woman and children, good luck finding those videos. Actual videos of Hamas committing these crimes. Just like actual videos of idf soldiers beating children, disabled people and women. Not written accounts by supporters.

SomeCatFromJapan · 15/11/2023 09:40

@Creatingusernamesismygame can you specify what you mean - are you saying that they didn't happen?

forthesakeofsanity · 15/11/2023 09:57

SomeCatFromJapan · 15/11/2023 09:40

@Creatingusernamesismygame can you specify what you mean - are you saying that they didn't happen?

think they are saying that videos of Hamas abusing women and babies are hard to find. This is in response to someone who asked that Hamas atrocities against children and women and the disabled be linked here too.

I am also saying that a group of terrorists called idf soldiers who justify shooting unarmed children just to show power, can’t be taken seriously. They clearly have no morals or values for innocent human lives, so it’s a little difficult looking up to these guys and believing a word that comes out of their mouths.

Brumbies · 15/11/2023 10:09

Parkingt111 · 15/11/2023 09:19

There are some in the IDF who are on a power trip and then others who are just pure evil. It makes me so mad to see how they humiliate the Palestinians
And in the west bank this is on a daily basis

As are members of Hamas.

Kendodd · 15/11/2023 10:10

Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 09:16

No one is trying to argue Jews haven’t been oppressed, or that Jews like other minorities aren’t the victims of ongoing hate speech or suffering. Jews have been oppressed throughout history and that is rightly acknowledged.

however it’s also true that Jews don’t have a monopoly on oppression or suffering, and just because Jews have been subjected to atrocities, doesn’t mean that any Jew who commit acts of oppression, or inflicts suffering on others - including soldiers acting on behalf of a state that espouses Jewish supremacy - , can do so with impunity. Calling this behaviour out doesn’t making someone a Jew hater or antisemite.

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Completely agree.
Part Jewish household here for what it's worth.

HoldOnMiGenna · 15/11/2023 10:13

Who seeks out this type of stuff as if people have so little imagination as to what constitutes death in war with the use of flying missiles, bombs, guns and tanks.
And why is one side described as racist when it that area of the world people generally do describe themselves as White and even if not, the only side being called racist comes from a nation whose minority can trace a lineage in Europe, the majority having never left the Middle East and many from the Horn of Sub Saharan Africa?
I say this as a Black person who has encountered and is well aware of Arab diasporic anti Blackness, North Africans who will loudly say that they are African and give emphasis that they are not Black.
All these people are Semites , both have people capable of blushing, both hate each other, both have many in their population that would tick 'White" on any form and one side has many that naive people in The West would be shocked to know tick " White" and not " other" on said forms.
So by what definition is "racist" being used that cannot equally be applied to both sides outside of a Western Leftist's undereducated fever dream ?
Because last time that I looked ,being White is not contingent upon the gaze of intra prejudiced Northern European Whites/ Cultures or if a White person tans or not.
A White person is well aware of their status in the Middle East, the Americas and Europe on meeting a Black person.
Whether that manifests in "political Blackness'( having too much say on Black issues as Northern European Whites "other"them, but they still have to come first place by carpetbagging on other people's stuff) or "passing" when amongst Western/ Northern European Whites is erroneous.

ChickHenLittle · 15/11/2023 10:18

Come on @Brumbies, have you got a translation of what you posted or was it just to try to look superior?

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Brumbies · 15/11/2023 10:22

ChickHenLittle · 15/11/2023 10:18

Come on @Brumbies, have you got a translation of what you posted or was it just to try to look superior?

Just for you, of little faith;

Spiritual Iron Dome.
The women of faith in the chant Cha in the holy Zohar it is written that every box and box in this chant was created an angel that protects the man that says the chant we all say and send guardian angels to our beloved soldiers.

🧿For the name of the holy unity of the blessed is he and her neighbor in the name of all the israel

He will sit in the secret place of the Most High, while in the shadow of my arms he will complain:
Say of the Lord, he is my refuge and my fortress, in God I will trust:
When he delivereth thee out of the stormy waters, and from the wilderness of the Lord:
In his feathers he shall bow to you, and under his wings shall he bow, and his truth:
Don't be afraid of the night, or the day will fly:
He who speaks in the dark will walk, a book will judge in the daylight:
A thousand will fall at your side, and many at your right hand, to whom it shall not reach:
Only with your eyes shall you look, and you shall see the multitude of evil:
As the Lord is merciful to me, the highest of your glory:
Do not desire evil to you, and draw near to your walk:
His angels will go with thee, to guard thee in all thy ways:
With the mouth of thy salvation, with the offspring of thy foot:
To the crocodile and to the right path, to the right path will be filled with kafir and give:
When I desire and be desolate, I will praise him, because he knows my name:
He that loves me, and will punish him, with me in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him:
Long days will I be satisfied with him, and I will see him in my salvation:

Thereissomelight · 15/11/2023 10:22

“It’s just war” say the men with their vests, tanks and machine guns as they pound a hospital filled with children and the sick and homeless civilians.

SomeCatFromJapan · 15/11/2023 10:24

*Have you seen videos of Hamas members beheading babies? Hitting or abusing women? Hitting disabled people. Shooting little boys for throwing stones? Or are these just fairytales you’ve been reading, written by IDF and Israeli government supporters?
Can you send me some links please.

I’m not saying Hamas don’t kill innocent civilians, that’s inevitable during war, but what I’m asking is how does shooting children who throw a handful of stones or a disabled man in a wheelchair, help the idf against Hamas? That’s terrorism. Terrorising the civilians when they should be focusing on Hamas if they claim they are the enemy.*

Actually yes, to at least some of that. I saw some hideous footage of the 7 October massacre.
I note with interest that you are completely minimising it, as well as justifying it as part of a "war" when there was in fact a ceasefire in place.

I don't agree with all IDF actions either.

If you really wish, you can google plenty of footage of the 7 October attack, I'm not personally inclined to go and dig up torture porn for you just now though.

ChickHenLittle · 15/11/2023 10:25

Brumbies · 15/11/2023 10:22

Just for you, of little faith;

Spiritual Iron Dome.
The women of faith in the chant Cha in the holy Zohar it is written that every box and box in this chant was created an angel that protects the man that says the chant we all say and send guardian angels to our beloved soldiers.

🧿For the name of the holy unity of the blessed is he and her neighbor in the name of all the israel

He will sit in the secret place of the Most High, while in the shadow of my arms he will complain:
Say of the Lord, he is my refuge and my fortress, in God I will trust:
When he delivereth thee out of the stormy waters, and from the wilderness of the Lord:
In his feathers he shall bow to you, and under his wings shall he bow, and his truth:
Don't be afraid of the night, or the day will fly:
He who speaks in the dark will walk, a book will judge in the daylight:
A thousand will fall at your side, and many at your right hand, to whom it shall not reach:
Only with your eyes shall you look, and you shall see the multitude of evil:
As the Lord is merciful to me, the highest of your glory:
Do not desire evil to you, and draw near to your walk:
His angels will go with thee, to guard thee in all thy ways:
With the mouth of thy salvation, with the offspring of thy foot:
To the crocodile and to the right path, to the right path will be filled with kafir and give:
When I desire and be desolate, I will praise him, because he knows my name:
He that loves me, and will punish him, with me in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him:
Long days will I be satisfied with him, and I will see him in my salvation:

No faith at all actually, for a long time.

I'm not entirely sure what that's meant to add to the thread...

forthesakeofsanity · 15/11/2023 10:27

SomeCatFromJapan · 15/11/2023 10:24

*Have you seen videos of Hamas members beheading babies? Hitting or abusing women? Hitting disabled people. Shooting little boys for throwing stones? Or are these just fairytales you’ve been reading, written by IDF and Israeli government supporters?
Can you send me some links please.

I’m not saying Hamas don’t kill innocent civilians, that’s inevitable during war, but what I’m asking is how does shooting children who throw a handful of stones or a disabled man in a wheelchair, help the idf against Hamas? That’s terrorism. Terrorising the civilians when they should be focusing on Hamas if they claim they are the enemy.*

Actually yes, to at least some of that. I saw some hideous footage of the 7 October massacre.
I note with interest that you are completely minimising it, as well as justifying it as part of a "war" when there was in fact a ceasefire in place.

I don't agree with all IDF actions either.

If you really wish, you can google plenty of footage of the 7 October attack, I'm not personally inclined to go and dig up torture porn for you just now though.

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A ceasefire in place that the Israelis can’t respect and abide by? A ceasefire that suits their narrative, whilst they continue to abduct, imprison and torture women, children and boys away from the eyes of the world? That ceasefire?

feralunderclass · 15/11/2023 10:31

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Mocking the deaths of any people is frankly disgusting. Whoever made this poster should be ashamed. And the Gazans (or Hamas or Muslims) were not responsible for the Holocaust, so not sure why the 'competitive' genocide angle? I suppose Israel gave to resort to filth like this, they have no other defence now.

Brumbies · 15/11/2023 10:33

I find this thread distasteful and full of ignorant people.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/11/2023 10:36

SomeCatFromJapan · Today 08:46

I certainly won't defend everything the IDF do in the West Bank but the "weird obsession" with the clothes removal is because of suicide bombers wearing explosive vests.

I am not sure what you mean, as obviously explosive vests are too bulky to be under garments aren’t they?
Wouldn’t it be a case of taking off a jacket at most, not the complete undressing demanded ?

Creatingusernamesismygame · 15/11/2023 10:36

SomeCatFromJapan · 15/11/2023 10:24

*Have you seen videos of Hamas members beheading babies? Hitting or abusing women? Hitting disabled people. Shooting little boys for throwing stones? Or are these just fairytales you’ve been reading, written by IDF and Israeli government supporters?
Can you send me some links please.

I’m not saying Hamas don’t kill innocent civilians, that’s inevitable during war, but what I’m asking is how does shooting children who throw a handful of stones or a disabled man in a wheelchair, help the idf against Hamas? That’s terrorism. Terrorising the civilians when they should be focusing on Hamas if they claim they are the enemy.*

Actually yes, to at least some of that. I saw some hideous footage of the 7 October massacre.
I note with interest that you are completely minimising it, as well as justifying it as part of a "war" when there was in fact a ceasefire in place.

I don't agree with all IDF actions either.

If you really wish, you can google plenty of footage of the 7 October attack, I'm not personally inclined to go and dig up torture porn for you just now though.

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Yes, I’ve seen the awful atrocities of the 7th of October. I’ve seen the videos of Hamas gunning the civilians at the festival and I’ve seen the videos of the Israeli forces also shooting their civilians.

But, I’m asking you to show similar videos of attacks other than the festival attacks. Show me where Hamas have displayed the same thug like, bullying of ordinary citizens, children, women of Israel at the hands of Hamas? Israeli civilians who are not confronting them with violence or are armed?

feralunderclass · 15/11/2023 10:37

Thanks for the thread OP. I follow quite a few Jewish influencers and these sickening posts are coming up in my for you page. I saw an Israeli wedding singer this morning singing about "death to Gaza and all Palestinians, all the land will be ours soon" and everyone clapping and cheering 😭

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