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Conflict in the Middle East

Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 13/11/2023 17:44

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

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Ohlalalalala · 25/11/2023 19:54

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 25/11/2023 19:38

Thank you 😆

They are getting desperate.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 25/11/2023 23:08

I've just found this on Insta and it's was in 2006 and the girl wasn't Palestinian.

www.instagram.com/reel/CzbYD4OoV59/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 25/11/2023 23:46

The # on this X post from Israel suggests that it was Hamas who committed this murder. But she was tragically killed by an Israeli tank.

x.com/Israel/status/1728031404708032701?s=20

thegrayzone.com/2023/11/25/israels-october-7-propaganda-tank-eyewitnesses/

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FourCandlesNotForkHandles · 26/11/2023 13:47

Another website that is fake.

Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine
whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:01

@Girahim

"She also said they put her through hell. And thst she was beaten with sticks. And it's unlikely she was going to publicly talk shit about the people whobhave her husband and over a hundred other people besides."

You might want to watch this interview which speaks about the treatment of the Israeli hostages. Please watch until the end because they specifically mentioned that Yocheved Lofshitz was accused of lying to protect her husband but this is untrue as everything she said was true.

www.instagram.com/reel/C0I6e5dsI9p/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

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Girahim · 27/11/2023 16:08

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:01

@Girahim

"She also said they put her through hell. And thst she was beaten with sticks. And it's unlikely she was going to publicly talk shit about the people whobhave her husband and over a hundred other people besides."

You might want to watch this interview which speaks about the treatment of the Israeli hostages. Please watch until the end because they specifically mentioned that Yocheved Lofshitz was accused of lying to protect her husband but this is untrue as everything she said was true.

www.instagram.com/reel/C0I6e5dsI9p/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

So based on what one subtitled tiktok video from a random Instagram video I'm supposed to deduce what, that Hamas aren't kidnapping terrorist scum?

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:23

It does prove your point wrong to say that what she said was only because her husband was still captured.

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Girahim · 27/11/2023 16:34

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:23

It does prove your point wrong to say that what she said was only because her husband was still captured.

No I didn't. I pointed out they have her husband. Which they do. And that video proves nothing. It's an interview with a journalist who says that she wasn't lying, which I never accused her of doing. Assuming the subtitles are accurate, I mean it's an out of context clip on some randos Instagram reel, with the word terrorist in quotation marks.

Why are you so determined to defend them? It doesn't matter if they put her up at the Ritz. They still took her from her home and held her hostage.

Xenia · 27/11/2023 20:58

Hopefully Israel will stop Hamas once and for all and we need to make sure that no one in the UK breaks the law as regards to Hamas either which is a terrorist organisation.

"Harakat al-Muqawamah al-Islamiyyah (Hamas) – Proscription extended November 2021Hamas is a militant Islamist movement that was established in 1987, following the first Palestinian intifada. Its ideology is related to that of the Muslim Brotherhood combined with Palestinian nationalism. Its main aims are to liberate Palestine from Israeli occupation, the establishment of an Islamic state under Sharia law and the destruction of Israel (although Hamas no longer demands the destruction of Israel in its Covenant). The group operates in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories. Hamas formally established Hamas IDQ in 1992. Hamas IDQ was proscribed by the UK in March 2001. At the time it was HM government’s assessment that there was a sufficient distinction between the so called political and military wings of Hamas, such that they should be treated as different organisations, and that only the military wing was concerned in terrorism. The government now assess that the approach of distinguishing between the various parts of Hamas is artificial. Hamas is a complex but single terrorist organisation.
Hamas commits and participates in terrorism. Hamas has used indiscriminate rocket or mortar attacks, and raids against Israeli targets. During the May 2021 conflict, over 4,000 rockets were fired indiscriminately into Israel. Civilians, including 2 Israeli children, were killed as a result. Palestinian militant groups, including Hamas, frequently use incendiary balloons to launch attacks from Gaza into southern Israel. There was a spate of incendiary balloon attacks from Gaza during June and July 2021, causing fires in communities in southern Israel that resulted in serious damage to property.
Hamas also prepares for acts of terrorism. One incident of preparatory activity is that Hamas recently launched summer camps in Gaza which focus on training groups, including minors, to fight. This is evidence of Hamas being responsible for running terrorist training camps in the region. In a press statement, Hamas described the aim of these camps as to “ignite the embers of Jihad in the liberation generation, cultivate Islamic values and prepare the expected victory army to liberate Palestine”."

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror-groups-or-organisations--2/proscribed-terrorist-groups-or-organisations-accessible-version#list-of-proscribed-international-terrorist-groups

Proscribed terrorist groups or organisations

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror-groups-or-organisations--2/proscribed-terrorist-groups-or-organisations-accessible-version#list-of-proscribed-international-terrorist-groups

Parker231 · 27/11/2023 21:19

Girahim · 27/11/2023 16:34

No I didn't. I pointed out they have her husband. Which they do. And that video proves nothing. It's an interview with a journalist who says that she wasn't lying, which I never accused her of doing. Assuming the subtitles are accurate, I mean it's an out of context clip on some randos Instagram reel, with the word terrorist in quotation marks.

Why are you so determined to defend them? It doesn't matter if they put her up at the Ritz. They still took her from her home and held her hostage.

The main thing is that she is safe and with her family.

However Gaza Strip is the world’s most dangerous place to be a child, with more than 5,300 Palestinian children killed so far — amounting to more than 115 a day — and more than 1,200 children under rubble or unaccounted for. Their families will be mourning their loss.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 29/11/2023 21:04

www.instagram.com/p/C0PaLpDsR1-/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

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Thankfultoyou · 08/12/2023 12:54

I've just come across this on Instagram

www.instagram.com/p/C0l2tEMo5am/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

I've read his caption which says the Israeli mayor of Jerusalem calls for burying detained Palestinians alive.

I'm not sure if he is translating the Hebrew text or not.

I've gone onto X and only found this post that has the same photos but it looks like the caption is different.

x.com/arieh_king/status/1733019431838560437?s=20

Using X translation on this post it reads:

And it shall come to pass, when the Lord thy God shall deliver thee from all thy enemies round about in the land which the Lord thy God is giving thee an inheritance to inherit - you shall enjoy the zikr of Amalek, the gift of heaven, and you shall not feel power."
Hundreds of Amalekites, Muslim-Nazis, what do you think their judgment should be?

Can anyone tell me if the above insta post is true and what does the Hebrew caption on it read please?

eester · 08/12/2023 13:59

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-municipality-official-calls-burying-alive-subhuman-palestinian?nid=322376&topic=Israel-Palestine%2520war&fid=492946

@Thankfultoyou according to this news story it is true :(

The deputy mayor of the Israeli-run Jerusalem municipality has called for burying alive dozens of civilian Palestinians whom he described as "subhuman".

Arieh King called the unarmed men, who were arbitrarily grabbed from their homes in Gaza by the Israeli army on Thursday, "Nazi Muslims".
"We have to pick up the pace," he said on X, referring to the Israeli army's "elimination" of Palestinians.

King added that if it were up to him, he would have used the D-9 armoured bulldozers to bury the men alive, calling them "ants".

"They are not human beings and not even human animals, they are subhuman and that is how they should be treated," King said.

Israeli official calls for burying alive 'subhuman' Palestinian civilians

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-municipality-official-calls-burying-alive-subhuman-palestinian?fid=492946&nid=322376&topic=Israel-Palestine%2520war

Thankfultoyou · 08/12/2023 14:08

Thank you @eester
Just when you think they can't sink any lower they do this.

Humdingerydoo · 08/12/2023 14:45

Based on Google translate and the fact he is quoting some kind of biblical verse, then no he did not say that. At least not in the screenshot. The Instagram post seems to have completely changed what the original post says. That means it's either fake propaganda or it means he posted the same thing twice but with two completely different captions.

I wouldn't take anything the middle east eye say at face value. I would make sure to double-check any of their claims, assuming you want the truth.

Thankfultoyou · 08/12/2023 15:04

@Humdingerydoo if you open the link @eester sent, the photo used on Instagram is the same photo in the article.

Humdingerydoo · 08/12/2023 15:09

Thankfultoyou · 08/12/2023 15:04

@Humdingerydoo if you open the link @eester sent, the photo used on Instagram is the same photo in the article.

Yeah but that is nowhere on his X feed. So it's either fake propaganda or he posted that and deleted it. The font looks different from normal X fonts but I don't know much about it

Thankfultoyou · 08/12/2023 15:39

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eester · 08/12/2023 16:29

Humdingerydoo · 08/12/2023 15:09

Yeah but that is nowhere on his X feed. So it's either fake propaganda or he posted that and deleted it. The font looks different from normal X fonts but I don't know much about it

When you click the link to the tweet on his account on X, it says X withdrew it as it violated content guidelines.

So it seems from this that it was actually posted then withdrawn by X.

eester · 08/12/2023 18:15

@Silence1 I can't see the article as behind a paywall, but that is really sickening and sad.

Thereissomelight · 08/12/2023 20:26

Reading back through this thread I’m going to bump the fact mentioned that the website Hamas.com claiming to show tortures and crimes committed by Palestinians is in fact a fake website written by Israelis.

Pathetic. And yes, shows how desperate they are for supporters.
Snopes

Is Hamas.com a Website for Hamas?

Forensic evidence indicated the website was created on an Israeli platform.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hamas-website/

Thereissomelight · 08/12/2023 20:27

They are not just dangerous extremist racist murderers but disgusting liars also.

Thankfultoyou · 08/12/2023 20:33

Netanyahu is now saying when the ICC investigate Israel for "fake" war crimes then it's pure antisemitism