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Conflict in the Middle East

Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 13/11/2023 17:44

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

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Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 16:16

I just think it's interesting that the people who sympathise with Israel are the ones who don't want to look at the horror they are inflicting.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 16:18

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 16:16

I just think it's interesting that the people who sympathise with Israel are the ones who don't want to look at the horror they are inflicting.

👏🏼👏🏼

In complete denial. If they can't see it they can pretend it's not happening.

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noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 16:19

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 16:16

I just think it's interesting that the people who sympathise with Israel are the ones who don't want to look at the horror they are inflicting.

I told you that I don't support what Israel are doing but you keep having to perpetuate that narrative don't you?

You can't accept that someone might simply disagree with you.

mixgoal · 18/11/2023 16:25

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 15:21

@mixgoal Believe me, no one delights in seeing these photos. The people of Gaza need us to look. If we didn't we wouldn't know the horrors Israel is subjecting them to.

I doubt the people of Gaza could give a shit what grizzly photos of their dead loved ones people on Mumsnet are posting.

Takoneko · 18/11/2023 16:28

I’m tired of those of us arguing for people on both sides to post factually on a disinformation thread being painted as pro-Israeli. I’m not pro-Israeli. I think what is happening in Gaza is a shocking humanitarian disaster, but that doesn’t mean that people should post any old unverified shite from dubious X or Instagram accounts or from electric intifada about what awful monsters the Israelis are.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 16:32

They need us to see. It's important for us to see. I know it's gruesome. No one wants to see it. No one wants it to be happening but unfortunately that's the reality. If we didn't see the things the Palestinians are posting we would be absolutely blind to the actual devastation that they are going through. And more than likely, everyone would believe what Israel are doing.

Everyone can sit here and discuss/argue or whatever you want to call it about what information is fact or fake but it doesn't change the fact that a LIVE GENOCIDE is happening and unfolding in front of our eyes and that Israel are the oppressors.

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 16:34

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 16:32

They need us to see. It's important for us to see. I know it's gruesome. No one wants to see it. No one wants it to be happening but unfortunately that's the reality. If we didn't see the things the Palestinians are posting we would be absolutely blind to the actual devastation that they are going through. And more than likely, everyone would believe what Israel are doing.

Everyone can sit here and discuss/argue or whatever you want to call it about what information is fact or fake but it doesn't change the fact that a LIVE GENOCIDE is happening and unfolding in front of our eyes and that Israel are the oppressors.

*believe what Israel are saying.

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noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 16:35

They need us to see. It's important for us to see.

You do you.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 16:37

I'm not going to apologise or change my mind about whether I should have reported distressing images of injured children to MNHQ for removal. You can try shaming me, berating me, emotionally blackmailing me, I still think it was the right thing to do and I'm glad they took them down. So jog on.

bengalcat · 18/11/2023 16:41

I do hope some of the Israeli hostages taken on the 7th are returned - preferably alive - however I wouldn’t be surprised if that doesn’t happen .

Finlesswonder · 18/11/2023 16:43

Let's get real, the conflict in the middle east debate in the west isn't really about Palestine and Israel, its a proxy debate

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 16:46

I don't think it was the intention to have the image posted up, @Ohlalalalala said it herself "I didn't want the picture to be there. It's a link:"
Clearly it wasn't intentional and fine to be removed. But the links will show them and that is also fine. Like someone said you can choose what you want to see. But being wilfully ignorant is just as bad as being wilfully silent.

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noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 16:50

Not wanting to see images isn’t the same as being wilfully ignorant either.

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 17:01

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Preemiemum123 · 18/11/2023 17:04

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Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 17:06

Apologies @Ohlalalalala

Preemiemum123 · 18/11/2023 17:06

100% this

Takoneko · 18/11/2023 17:07

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Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 17:11

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Mind your language.

I wasn't even referring to you, but maybe I should have, seeing your reaction.

Pathetic.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 17:16

So who were you referring to, who has justified murdering children?

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 17:19

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Sorry @Ohlalalalala

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Certainfailure · 18/11/2023 17:29

@Lobster7 not really. Israel is the only state entirely for Jewish people although funnily enough it allows Muslim citizens to live and worship relatively freely also.
On the other hand Muslims have a multitude of different countries offering an Islamic way of life to chose from. Some of those countries are not open to allowing other religions to practice openly, in fact some have seen huge discrimination and violence towards Christians and Buddhists.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 17:35

Certainfailure · 18/11/2023 17:29

@Lobster7 not really. Israel is the only state entirely for Jewish people although funnily enough it allows Muslim citizens to live and worship relatively freely also.
On the other hand Muslims have a multitude of different countries offering an Islamic way of life to chose from. Some of those countries are not open to allowing other religions to practice openly, in fact some have seen huge discrimination and violence towards Christians and Buddhists.

What countries would these be?

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Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 17:58

@Certainfailure What one of my posts are you replying to?

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 18:56

Certainfailure · 18/11/2023 17:29

@Lobster7 not really. Israel is the only state entirely for Jewish people although funnily enough it allows Muslim citizens to live and worship relatively freely also.
On the other hand Muslims have a multitude of different countries offering an Islamic way of life to chose from. Some of those countries are not open to allowing other religions to practice openly, in fact some have seen huge discrimination and violence towards Christians and Buddhists.

Which Muslims are those that Israel "allows" to "live and worship relatively freely"? You mean the ones whose country it is in the first place? The ones it has stolen their land? The ones it has been trying to ethnic cleanse for the last 75 years? The ones it is currently cowardly bombing and killing by the thousands?

Are those the Muslims you're talking about?

What's the point of your post anyway?

This thread is about misinformation. Are you giving an example of that?

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