Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

I didn't want the picture to be there. It's a link:

تقديرات بسقوط 200 شهيد.. مجزرة جديدة في مدرسة الفاخورة بغزة https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2023/11/18/%d8%aa%d9%82%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%b1%d8%a7%d8%aa-%d8%a8%d8%b3%d9%82%d9%88%d8%b7-200-%d8%b4%d9%87%d9%8a%d8%af-%d9%85%d8%ac%d8%b2%d8%b1%d8%a9-%d8%ac%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%af%d8%a9-%d9%81%d9%8a

God forbid anyone has to see a distressing image. Imagine if you had to live it. Shame on anyone still supporting these monsters.

MN isn't a forum for posting distressing images. They get to decide and they decided no, which is an entirely reasonable stance.

I posted it for all those who have been inundating this thread with their questioning of the Palestinian casualties and talking about actors and fake injuries. How could anyone do that!

Seriously, are you so intent on absolving the genociders' crimes that you question the suffering of innocent Palestinians? The killing of babies and children by the thousands?

Ok, here it is, see for yourselves:

Trigger alert; extremely distressing images from the latest strike of IDF on a school full of babies, children and refugees.

تقديرات بسقوط 200 شهيد.. مجزرة جديدة في مدرسة الفاخورة بغزة https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2023/11/18/%d8%aa%d9%82%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%b1%d8%a7%d8%aa-%d8%a8%d8%b3%d9%82%d9%88%d8%b7-200-%d8%b4%d9%87%d9%8a%d8%af-%d9%85%d8%ac%d8%b2%d8%b1%d8%a9-%d8%ac%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%af%d8%a9-%d9%81%d9%8a

Are those actors? Is this a horror movie set?

Please justify this now.

Fine with Israel carrying out these atrocities. Just don't want to have to look at them.

I've never said I'm fine with Israel carrying out atrocities, in fact I have said the opposite. You crack on.

We ve seen those appalling images on Al Jazeera English in the video footage.
They haven’t taken that down MNHQ
Plus the person with the camera passing women and tiny children dead side by side, men checking to see if little children and babies are still alive.
Entire families massacred.

A MN has complained about the truth being posted.
They obviously would rather hide from reality.

What an unpleasant thing to say given the poster is in good faith. The image/video was linked to a major news channel which I for one had seen on the television this morning too.

By the way if anyone comes in here who does not know yet, a school where hundreds of Palestinians were sheltering, was bombed by Israel and this lead to carnage, as one might expect.

The image/video was linked to news about that particular bombing raid.

What a truly disgusting post.

A MN has complained about the truth being posted.

I complained about distressing images being posted.

They obviously would rather hide from reality.

You might be desperate to post images of injured children on MN, but I think it is entirely reasonable to think that on a parenting website of all places, that might not be appropriate.

You know what else isn't appropriate? Blowing up children.

noblegiraffe · Today 14:48

I've never said I'm fine with Israel carrying out atrocities, in fact I have said the opposite. You crack on.

I get that you just want trigger warnings and no gratuitous gore which is fair enough.

imo though, ohlalalala was simply posting a very important and freely available news item, in which the image was included.

I saw the post but I didn't see images posted?

Thank you or saying this, and all your links from more reputable sources.

Do you understand that there is a difference between not wanting to see images of blown up children, and supporting blowing up children?

Because you don't seem to.

If you are talking about me then I have done no such thing. I have posted links to a number of fact checks debunking pro-Israeli social media posts about crisis actors and fake Palestinian casualties that have been proven to be untrue. Arguing that people should check their sources and question pro-Palestinian posts as well as pro-Israeli posts does not amount to justifying Israeli actions or “absolving genociders” ffs.

Isn't it great that we can decide whether to look or not? The people of Gaza don't have that luxury.

I believe that poster has been banned and that’s why their username no longer gets bolded, so you’re not going to get a reply.

This source about the ‘hospital bombing’ question is from Forensic ArchitectureLondon University), Earshot, and a Ramallah based NGO Al Haq.

I can’t remember if anyone has linked to this source already.

It does not say Israel is responsible for the bomb. It does say Israel’s account does not tally with their finding. It does not say Hamas is innocent.
“20 Oct 2023
Human rights investigators raise new questions on Gaza hospital explosion”
https://www.channel4.com/news/human-rights-investigators-raise-new-questions-on-gaza-hospital-explosion

Now that Israeli is freely bombing hospitals anyway, it does not seem to matter so much outside the question the lack of credibility on which ever side.

@mixgoal Believe me, no one delights in seeing these photos. The people of Gaza need us to look. If we didn't we wouldn't know the horrors Israel is subjecting them to.

Do you spend your time deliberately looking at distressing images from all conflicts to bear witness?

I think trying to emotionally blackmail people into looking at distressing images if you can't make them look at them by surprise is pretty low.

Yes we are lucky not to live in Gaza. We are lucky to have the choice not to look at distressing images rather than being forced to live them.

You might think it's important to see them. You have the choice to do that. Others have the choice not to. You do you.

You might be desperate to post images of injured children on MN, but I think it is entirely reasonable to think that on a parenting website of all places, that might not be appropriate.

Sometimes people need to be confronted by the reality of what’s actually happening in the world. I think people posting on the threads on this board will know well enough that the things being discussed here are indeed horrific, and are unlikely to be here if they are not prepared for that. It’s a bit disingenuous to suggest that parents in search of sleep training tips might suddenly blunder into a montage of bloody images.

Sometimes people need to be confronted by the reality of what’s actually happening in the world.

That's not your decision to make on here.