People who don't support ceasefire

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and back Israel's bombing of Gaza.

Are they racist?

I actually don't mind Starmer. He's a big improvement on Corbyn. Not that I will vote Labour but he's trying to move the party back to the centre, with much resistance. Off topic, sorry.

Support for a ceasefire is significantly increasing, those who died today could have been saved If there was a ceasefire yesterday

More than 1,000 officials at the US Agency for international development (USAID) have signed an open letter urging the Biden administration to call for an immediate ceasefire in the war between Israel and Hamas, according to a copy of the letter seen by Reuters.

It’s easy to ask Biden to call for a cease fire.

More difficult to negotiate with the parties involved.

Perfect response

They're the opposite of racist. They believe that it's not a good idea to let Jews be killed and the Jewish homeland destroyed. And so when an anti-semitic organisation seeks to do that, they won't just sit around and let themselves be tortured/killed/raped.

Well said. Thank you

@VisitationRights
So how many Israeli deaths are acceptable, how many more times do we let a regroup by Hamas so they can launch more attacks? Are you racist, OP, do you hate Jews and don’t consider them human? Why do you want to let Hamas kill Israelis?
Quite. Not that anyone takes any notice, but thank you for expressing it so clearly.

The acceptable number of Palestinian deaths is exactly the same as the acceptable number of Jewish deaths -0

Currently running 10 Palestinians for every Jewish death

@keffie12 I thought his wife was Hindu?

The OP still hasn't confirmed whether she supports Hamas, since she makes a few of her own suppositions.

@Alcemeg @VisitationRights Thank you. I totally agree and it's so good to see people standing up for Jewish people

No, she is a Jew. Their children are being bought up Jewish, too. Here is a link about it

www.timesofisrael.com/uk-labour-leader-starmer-opens-up-about-his-familys-jewish-traditions/

Why is the first question for Palestinian supporters, “do you support hamas?”. Yawn.

What do you mean? She posted it straight after you asked
It's in the next post after your question

Is entirely possible to not support a ceasefire and also not support bombing Gaza. But then you'd have to be open to complex discussions, and too many people are currently too hung up on being on one side of the other. On that basis much of the debate is as polarised, and therefore as bad, as the situation they are discussing.

No.

This. absolutely this.

Genuinely curious. If you don't think Israel should have gone into Gaza, how exactly do you propose they go about eliminating Hamas?
Doing nothing would be suicidal. So what should they have done?

There was a thread about this that was rightly deleted. The implications of having a Jewish wife...?! Controlling a politician...? I'm not Jewish, and like him am an adult with the capacity to form my own views.

the suicidal line suggests you are reactionary not thinking clearly

You needed to get rid of Hamas - yes - you have had that problem for decades and over that time many more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis and the problem has got worse - why ?

Possibly because so many Palestinians have been killed , so many Palestinians have lost their homes ... the punitive method over the decades has made the situation ever worse and strengthened not weakened Hamas

Repeating the same punitive actions over and over and expecting a different result is one definition of stupid

And that is not what I said, is it?

I don't think you can every eliminate terrorists by force. I don't think BOMBING people who are not Hamas reduces the number of Hamas - it grows them. Killing Israelis also grows the fight - assuming you are in the UK if someone attacks the UK, will you be arguing peace? Most of the UK are still hating a young woman groomed by terrorists who is arguably no threat to anyone.

You can stop bombing and not ceasefire. Bombs are not the only weapons. Equally, if Hamas are intent on Jihad and think their cause is so great, stop hiding behind civilians and get on the front line.

Anyone - on either side - seeking to die for their cause... not my first option, but have at it.

I am not naive. I have been in war. I have seen what it does. IRL. I'm not discussing something from my comfy sofa that I've never experienced. Unlike most people. There are no winners in war. There are no niceties either.

Hamas are not the Palestinian people. The Israeli government are not Jewish people. And there are no simple or easy answers. Cowards hide behind civilians. They always have.

Genuinely curious. If you don't think Israel should have gone into Gaza, how exactly do you propose they go about eliminating Hamas?
Doing nothing would be suicidal. So what should they have done?

@yellowgingham8 I didn't say that I don't think Israel should have gone to Gaza.
I just think that their response is excessive, inhuman and unlawful in the eyes of the most of the world.

I also think that the language used by the current Israeli defence minister, Yoav Gallant, calling Gazans "human animals" is pretty revealing of toxic culture of Israeli government.

This kind of language caused Holocaust

I haven’t rtft but the major issue is how to get rid of Hamas

Most agree that should be achieved, if there is a ceasefire there hasn’t been a suggestion on how

Repeating the same punitive actions over and over and expecting a different result is one definition of stupid
That must be why Hamas, having spent years bombing Israel with missiles that backfired or were intercepted, decided to take things up a level or two...