How do prevent the rise of anti Semitic feeling in the UK?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12705139/Jewish-ambassador-says-London-feels-safe-Israel-jihad-ideology-exploded-capitals-streets.html

Will the continuous marches in London lead to an environment where anti semitism becomes acceptable? There has been a massive rise in hate crime against Jews and surely in the UK we have a duty to prevent any platform which may lead to unjustified hatred of a group in the UK?

I feel we should feel pride we have a diverse society with a while range of ethnicities and religions but we should always act to encourage social cohesion by not allowing events that could contain messages of hate.

Although the support of the Palestinian people is absolutely reasonable in terms of free speech in a democratic society and it is reasonable to comment on the actions of the Israeli state at times the marches in a lot of major British cities have the danger of including terrorist apologists.

Glad this is all such ac great joke to you.

Really? Your post is showing your ignorance! Firstly, Pakistani are mostly economic migrants while Syrians are fleeing hell. They are not here for the same reason. They are refugees. I have worked with their children. Their desire to learn and their respect towards any adults were amazing.
Secondly, to state that anyone who protests against against the Israeli government is screaming for Jihad is crass and blatantly untrue.
Finally, the Home Office researchers have stated that “research has found that group-based offenders are most commonly white".
Your post has a strong whiff of Islamophobia.

We had some Syrian children at one of my children's school. They were bright, delightful and always said how grateful they were to their teachers. The family had nothing, but were incredibly hospitable, invited people for amazing home cooked meals, and were desperate to be independent, work and make their own way. Incredible people.

The reason why it’s Islamophobic and racist is because the vast majority of people who are supporting the Palestinians are Muslims.

It would therefore follow that as the majority of supporters are Muslim, they would also have the highest amount (as a percentage of the overall amount) of people who are anti-Semitic, because every race and religion weighing in will have a percentage of racists.

For example, there are 100,000 English Christians who support a cause and 1,000,000 Muslims who support the same cause. 1% of the English people would be 1,000 racists English people, but 1% of 1,000,000 Muslims would be 10,000 people. The percentage is the same, but you’d note the Muslims more, simply because of the numbers involved.

There are also plenty of Muslim majority countries who could not care less about the Palestinians, as well as Muslim nations who love Israel, like Azerbaijan, and even the United Arab Emirates booted someone out of a football match for bringing a Palestinian flag.

It really is a fallacy to conflate being Muslim as one homogenous race/thought machine.

There are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, of every race and from widely varying cultures. There will be some countries that have history of wars with Israel that may make them feel negatively about Jewish people (like Jordan) and others are either supportive of Israel or fully neutral.

Every Syrian child I have taught learnt English within 6 months of arriving. Their eagerness to learn was outstanding. I never saw any behavioural problems from them and we had expected some after what they had experienced.
I grew quite close to a family ( father was a university lecturer who was fluent in 3 languages and mother was PHD student). They finally told me that the council had put them in a flat, infested with rats! So much for the 5* hotel!!!! The school managed to put pressure on the council and they were moved. The gratitude they showed was moving.

NB I am not saying that the anti-Semitic people are anywhere near 1%, I just chose easy numbers to demonstrate my point.

So you’re happy that innocent Palestinians are being killed / displaced / kicked out of their houses ?
Did I say that?
What I said that I would be ashamed to behave in such a mindlessly tribal manner.

@Auvergne63 Very interesting and useful work you do!

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Ukraine's government do not have a mandate of Russian genocide.

They did not break ceasefire to go door to door and torture, gang rape, burn alive, and murder thousands of innocent people.

They did not say that they plan to repeat these attacks until Russia is annihilated.

They did not dismantle their own infrastructure and use humanitarian aid to launch terror attacks.

They did not show Mickey Mouse being 'martyred' on kids' TV.

Other than that I suppose it's a fair point.

Its about the feeling that the world are just watching and not caring if you are Palastian, how unimportant and dehumanised you must feel, whilst other countries get support. (Which they should too)

It was. I left teaching 6 years ago. Working with children who were refugees was awe inspiring. I learnt so much from them; they came from Syria, Eritrea, and many other countries. A little boy was asked if he was vegetarian, his answer still makes me smile! He replied " No, I am Palestinian". He was, indeed.

I am "a Jew" and I'm more than happy to be called as such, because I'm proud to be a Jew. In the same way that I don't think it's insulting to say "black person". Why is that an insult? My kids say im lacking in woke-ishness and they're probably right but I just don't get it. Surely it's worse thinking those terms are an insult!!

People generally don't support unprovoked terrorist attacks involving raping young girls until they hemorrhage, breaking their limbs and then spitting on their corpses. Breaking into homes, tying mothers and children together, and burning them alive. Decapitating civilians with shovels. Uploading torture and death to the victims' Facebook accounts.

I think of Jewish people are saying antisemitism is in the rose then we should believe them.

I am one of those people who deplore what Hamas did and their sadistic hideous massacre, but also am devastated at what is happening to innocent Palestinians now.

The examples you have shared are abhorrent. I would love to lock up anyone defacing a poster like that.

My Jewish friends are avoiding ‘Jewish’ areas they tell me (we live near Golders Green). They are not going to central London. My kids’ Jewish friends are not attending meetings at their school/uni JSoc (that really saddens me). I believe their experiences and their fear. I have had to deal with a case of implied antisemitism at work (with a positive outcome actually: apologies and learning).

Antisemitism exists. We should all stamp it out.

I think we can support all victims and deplore antisemitism. It’s utterly indefensible.

I've noticed how pro Israel supporters here love a graphic description. And no one has described the devastation in Gaza quite so graphically.

I wonder if they feel writing such graphic descriptions on mn excuses the Israeli governments murder of over 9000 people since?

You mean "They did not break ceasefire to go door to door and torture, gang rape, burn alive, and murder thousands of innocent people"? That's not very graphic, plus its true, thats what Hamas did. And I've seen much more graphic descriptions of injured or dead Palestinian citizens on here, plus lots of people spamming links to social media most, often with no context or warning, that turn out to be graphic videos.

Although that's beside the point. What exactly does any of that have to do with preventing the rise of antisemitic feeling in the UK?

People absolutely dont support genocide, collective punishment, multiple and extremely severe war crimes, and the willing and purposeful slaughter of civilians either.

@ssd I think people are guilty of that on both sides tbh and some people revel in what they post and where they post it.

I work in the NHS and have noticed our communications boards mention nothing about the conflict and there was no general acknowledgment of the atrocities of October 7th which there may have been for other global mass terrorist actviity.

It is quite strange as everyone discussed 9/11 but in 2023 there seems a distinct lack of discussion about this conflict in my circles. I think IRL there is fear of saying "the wrong thing' and acknowledging October 7th is defining yourself as on a particular side of the conflict and therefore anti Palestinian.

There is quite obviously hatred of Israel amongst some in the Arab world and I feel we do not want those feelings imported to the UK. The thousands that march in our major cities do not reflect majority opinion which acknowledges the brutality of October 7th, the need for Israel's defence and a wish to minimise civilian casualties generally . The placards being shown in these marches are calling for the removal of Israel as a state as well as general anti Semitic messaging and hopefully the police can act in a sensible manner to arrest those holding them.

We have a small Jewish population but I think many are genuinely scared for their familes .

Most uk jews feel so unsafe in the uk they would rather be in Israel which is currently in a state of war.
And now Israel are advising all Israelis to either not travel abroad or hide their Israeli nationality when abroad such is the high risk. What are Jews to do when the world right now is no longer welcome to us? The uk must do something to eradicate this hate
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24625826/israel-warns-citizens-jews-not-travel-abroad-antisemitism/amp/

In the US, there are four distinct fronts of antisemitism.

One is the white supremacist far Right.

Another is in the African American community. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion caught on in the American prison system, where it was widely circulated and became a popular conspiracy theory that was then taken back to the general Black population.

Then, there are some Muslims who have adopted the virulent antisemitism that's becoming increasingly common in the Arab world.

Finally, there are the leftists, who see Israel as oppressive colonisers. I think that's merged with old tropes of the Jew as the greedy capitalist on some unconscious level. I think that this group has the least amount of actual ethnic bigotry, but they can be unfortunate allies with the previous two groups.

Ha! Nice joke you've got there. Antisemitism was transported from Judeo-Christian Europe into the Middle East... you know, after the Europeans murdered 6 million Jewish people. It is a very white and very Christian problem.

How do prevent the rise of anti Semitic feeling in the UK

Invent a time machine and go back to at least 10 years ago or longer.

A bit to late now to prevent the rise. We can only hold of it growing to fast.

Hi, Muslim here.

You should be challenging antisemitism regardless of who it is coming from. Whether that's a black person, Muslim, non-Muslim, Asian - whatever! Green, yellow and blue people - I could not care less, you should be challenging it regardless.

I can't help the glaringly obvious way you categorise antisemitism based on who it is coming from...

1. 'A white person who says blatantly antisemitic stuff is pretty obviously unhinged' (?) - but it coming from a Muslim is what? Their default position? Muslims who say blatantly antisemitic 'stuff' are not unhinged? Hm. Interesting.

P.S - a white person being antisemitic isn't only ever because they are unhinged, the Holocaust was committed by white people. Majority of European countries were complicit and they were all white - so... it is a thing.