To think Israel won't exist much longer?

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Support in the west is declining, and when Israel doesn't have weapons and defense funding they won't be able to defend against their neighbouring countries on their own. AIBU to wonder how much longer it can exist given they are losing support?

To do Hamas work for them

Or

Genuine ignorance

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You saved me typing it, eatapeach, but don't expect the points raised to be answered with any rationality ... they never are

No place is safe in Gaza. Everywhere is a legitimate target
Whilst posters on here think we should just nod and accept like puppets

Netanyahu is unhinged
Majority of Israelis don't even think he is doing right by his own country and then expect us to believe he gives a damn about innocent civilians

Whole families wiped out in their homes
It doesn't matter who they are
UN employees doctors journalists
All legitimate targets for Israel
We should just sit silently and Watch massacre upon massacre
Every night worse than the night before

I’ve posted it because there have been Zionists on these threads telling me that it’s fine to starve/deprive of clean water/deprive of anaesthetic/deprive of power/bomb the hostages in Gaza/fire bullets at hostages.

The whole point of a hostage is that you’d assume that a country would not wilfully kill their own citizens, but people are clearly quite comfortable with that. There has been a recording of a hostage saying that IDF were intentionally shooting at Hamas whilst they were holding Israelis. The faces of the hostages should be shown. Their voices should be heard.

And yes, before you ask, I believe that you should “negotiate with terrorists” if the alternative is, apparently, killing hostages and 3000+ babies and kids, and equal numbers of women (pregnant ones, too, with fathers holding the babies delivered from their dead wife).

This point of view makes me “ignorant”, apparently.

Conversely, I find your points of view utterly grotesque.

@Eatapeach is this the excitement of palestinian deaths that you are referring to?

I've seen so many threads on here where anyone that doesn't agree with Israel is just being told to be silent and their opinion doesn't matter.

It's so funny how the hostages all had nothing but good things to say about their treatment and nothing but bad about Israel.

They are HOSTAGES. Ffs. What the fuck do you think they are going to say? Have you never encountered this concept before?

The two women who were released, both of their husbands are still being held by Hamas.

the hostages deserve to be heard
No one is this naive, surely. No way.

Funny?

I doubt it. Harrowing and terrifying would be a better description of the actions of Hamas

The hostages are innocent civilians and
should be released immediately. They did nothing to deserve this.
I don't care if I was treated like royalty I still wouldn't want to be kidnapped!

Thanks for saying this. X

Also presume you understand (as previous posters apparently don't) that videos of hostages released by their captors don't tend to represent them freely expressing their opinions.

I can't believe I'm even having to say this. Then again I can't believe many of the things I hear at the moment...

Yes, I can’t believe you are having to state what to some of us is perfectly obvious!

Ofcourse I do
Those poor poor women it's very distressing to see and their poor families who must be going out of their mind in agony

What some don't realise is when you stand up for the injustice of some and at the same time condone the injustice of others then your cause is lost

Clearly no one gets the irony of it. Of course hostages are innocent. I'm not denying that.

The people who have taken them hostage treats them respectfully whilst Israel who supposidly have the right to defend themself and are innocent don't care about the hostages lives. I think the video speaks volumes

The group who took hostages are also responsible for the most depraved and barbaric acts known.

I don’t get this need to speak highly of a terrorist organisation that does that. It’s off rather than ironic.

As for speaking volumes yes I thought that when people acted in the most inhumane way possible.

@EasternStandard have you seen the footages, the hundreds of footages from the injuries and dead of Palestine? All done by Israel?

Absolutely horrific scenes coming out right now
What seems to be some of the worst of the bombing since the start of the war
A whole residential area of the Jabalia refugee camp destroyed today
There's bodies everywhere
Some still alive half stuck in the rubble
Some under the rubble
And some blown to pieces where only parts are seen.
Whole families gone
I won't post the pictures on here but it's beyond what words can describe
Majority in the refugee camp were women and children

#CEASEFIRE

BBC is currently reporting on it but even they have posted limited pictures as they have said some are just too graphic to put up

There is carnage everywhere
It's really really bad
We need a ceasefire

I saw that. It looks like hell on earth. Israel really need to be held to account for what they are doing. I don't understand why Russia was sanctioned left right and centre and Israel is cheered on whilst shamelessly carrying out a massacre on civilians. It is sick. Israel are a terrorist state and the world needs to do something to try and stop them.

This is from the BBC
You can see a enormous crater and bodies everywhere
Children blown to pieces

Yes I'm sure Shani Louk was treated with the deepest of respect.