30s TTC Inc: Rolling out BESH practice across our flagship monthly diffment projects - Blue Sky thinking for a paradigm shift vis-a-vis droids and wooden spoons.

[Muser]

We're getting serious this time BESHies. Welcome to the Palace, where the emphasis is on sophistication. Cast your eyes over the plush carpet, admire the oh-so-carefully worn leather armchairs with sidetables and little green lamps. We have the Bonds of the ages as barstaff, waiting to serve martinis and the finest champagne.

To your left you'll see the Pit, which hopefully we won't be needing much. To your right the Cave of Gloom, and straight ahead we have our special space for the 2WOOFL. You'll find beanbags and gym balls there, the walls have been specially painted to allow you to write your symptoms up and wipe them off if they disappear. It's all the rage for Blue Sky thinking these days. And there are donuts and coffee to keep you going as you try to shift that paradigm.

Glad to hear it salty. Now I wonder how the lovely ginrummy is doing.

Hey. No more bleeding so far. Doesn't put my mind at rest as with the last one I had bleeds like that every day or so. I need a good 48 hours or something blood-free before I could even dare to hope.

muse thanks for explaining on pesh thread. It's tough when people don't know the background. And I really have heard all the 'bled and it was fine' stories....but I bled, and it wasn't! (know you all know this)

salty really glad to hear no more pink stuff. Am crossing fingers. Am a bit doomy about prospects for me,tbh...but would be unbelievably happy to be proved wrong.

I'm going to do some hoping for you gin. Pristine gussets all round.

I do think one of the saddest things about our situation is we don't get that worry free pregnancy. Maybe nobody really does, but it's so hard when you know what can go wrong and are just trying to get through each day hoping it will be ok. I still have The Fear that tomorrow they'll scan me and it'll be just like last time when there was nothing there.

Hey there ginny - Know what you mean, I had on off spotting at start of things going tits up last time.

However, I am determined to psych out the womb monsters by positive attitude.

Because, obviously, that's how it works

Am also crossing fingers, and have bought you a lucky rabbits foot and some heather from a nice gypsy lady...

ARGHHH RABBIT'S foot. Apostrophe SHAME....

Dear me you see what this is doing to me?

Someone please unleash an act of violence in my direction!

oh, and picked you a four leaf clover Muse, in preparation for scan tomorrow.

Cheers chaps. muse, from my scientific study of...erm ...one, I can say that although I worried about stuff in my first (mani producing) pg, and the second, it was nothing like the levels of worry that I've reached since the second (all fine,no worrying signs at all) turned out to be a missed miscarriage....

(yes I am aware that sentence is so poorly constructed it could win the 'shit grasp of English' award. Please not to judge)

I was talking to mum when I got pg this time,about how the innocence of pregnancy, and the pure lovely initial excitement,is taken away from you,and when you tell those closest to you the 'happy news' they just don't know what to say...it's all so muted and scared etc.

Blah blah 'mememe'. Sorry if palace not best place for this crap but you lot know everyfink and have supported me though so much and...

Oh fuck am gonna cry. Must remember to give dhb crown to cunty or someone.

I have no one to pray to, but I'm trying to make this right by sheer will (rather like you salty. I liked the image of battling womb monsters!)

I'm just so sad. A third time will be just fucking unbearable. And it had better sort out one way or the other soon as we are going on hol on the 15th

oh pleeeeeeaaaaaase let this be alright....I try very hard to be a decent human being and am not aware of having done anything to deserve shit karma...

Sorry had to offload. Will stfu now.

muse what time is scan tomorrow? Will send extra extra good thoughts at the appropriate time xx

Offload away Gin

Sheer will is way forward

Offload till there's nothing left to offload, my ginnywinny, we are always here. And I think you are a DHB, because you've been through so much and you still keep going. I can't imagine how scary and sad things must be for you at the mo

Am sending humungous velcro vibes and love to both you and saltines xx

And Muse, am already sending you top luck vibes in preparation for tomorrow. Not that you'll need 'em - everything will be 100% fab

Love and kisses to all.

If you want them that is.

Wishing and hoping and yes...praying (what of it?).

9.40am is the scan time. I am bricking it. But off to a lovely picnic in the park today so will try not to think about it.

And this is the place for offloading gin. If anyone thinks it's inappropriate they shall have me to deal with .

Gin - this is definitely the place. No one could argue with that. Muse, glad your scan is early, so you (we!) don't have to wait all day for it. I'm knackered from squeezing out so many positive thoughts, but will keep going

Spotting is back. Is only pinky-brown tinge when I wipe (every 5 minutes...) so I guess could just be 'left over' from yesterday.

I feel like all hope is (literally) leaking away

Salty my sweet. Is there anyone medical you can get to or ask? I don't much about it - I'm really sorry. Would NHS direct just tell you to go to A&E, which I don't suppose you want to do. Do you know any doctors socially?

I'm keeping everything crossed for you.

Gin and Salty So sorry and worried for you. Am prezellated at the moment trying to keep everything crossed. Also chanting Julian of Norwich sentiments of the all shall be well, and all shall be well, and all
manner of things shall be well variety. The universe WILL not let things go wrong.

Sorry if have missed anything else on fred; have been away all weekend at my baby brother-in-law's wedding. Very, very cute.

muse best of British for the scan tomorrow, old bean

Oh God, Gins and Salty, you must both be out of your minds with worry , as if this isn't stressful enough already, as Salty says.

Loads of love coming atcha, and here's hoping you get some reassurance soon, when EPU get their arses into gear .

Sorry, late to all the worry. Gin, Salty like everyone else I have everythig crossed for you both. Also you feel free to offload here about anything & everything - I'd be insulted if you went elsewhere .

I really hope you get the scans & reassurance from some medical bod who will work, & the nekkid dancing can commence once more.

Love to you both xx (yeah, yeah wot-eva!)

Gin and Salty, keeping everything crossed for you, and best of luck for the scan tomorrow, Muser; hope all is well and you can relax a little.

and if anyone wants a gusset update, I am pleased to report it is still pristine. I did feel some below stairs twinges earlier, but they have disappeared again.

hello everyone.

Hope you have continues to be bleed free today Gin.

Muse have you managed to keep menkuls at bay? I am hanging out for your positive scan result!

In spotting news, is still occurring in a kind of on/off sort of way. No cramps, but i have been getting all sorts of weird twingy shit going on...again, could be nothing, but in my head is Something, with a capital Some.

I am also minus any dffed symptoms, no background nausea, not exhausted, boobs not hurting.

Not looking terribly promising tbh.

aaaah, more bleeding for me too this evening - red this time. I had begun to have some optimism as well. Off to UCLH for me tomorrow morning...

Hope your scan goes well tomorrow Muser and hope no more bleeding for G and S.

I will now STFU.

oh twinkle love, sorry to hear that - I thought things had settled a bit for you. Hope you can see someone in a.m?

Fingers crossed for you

gah for the continuing bleeding. No need for anyone to STFU, and fingers crossed for you too, Twinkerbell

Jeebus. So sorry twink. Sending you tons of love, and hope you get seen quickly tomorrow so you know what is going on.

Yes, that was a hug.

salty luvver still have fingers crossed for you as well. Let us know when you manage to see someone. Fuckit, have a bearhug too. I am feeling very emotional.

Well, I haven't had any bleeding today (yet) but Like salt have had weird twinges that may mean fuck all or may not. And if I keep rummaging like I have been today I will prob do myself some damage and have another bleed anyway.

I will ring epu tomorrow, but can only go in if they insist I need to as have so much to do at work. Have scan first thing tues anyway, so if epu want to see me as well as ultrasound I will go then.

meds yay to pristine gusset! I will find some more fingers to cross.

lyra I am so glad you liked the wee pressie! Is just so you always know we're thinking of you.

everyone else THANKS. I heart you all and would be lost without you xx