Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part3)

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Hi all,

Brand new thread!

I started it so I must get a BFP before the end - them's the rules.

What you up to Hairy??

sorry about rtd Dig hope it comes quick so you can enjoy your holls in peace.

Loop what is DTD? Bad mush brian.

Bigs waves to all from very tired magic8 towers

Ha, double cross post.

battery have managed to resist early testing thus far, but am vaguely intending to test tomorrow. BUT, only have internet cheapies that want to be submerged in wee, so much harder to do it without DP knowing, and don't want to get him excited for no reason. Wonder if I can keep my legs crossed till he leaves for work at 7:30am.

Doing the deed?

Doing the deed

There you are hopefully. I am one day behind you I think in the ovularion stakes (sorry if that sounds stalker-ish!) am only 9dpo today. Can't really help you on the temp front - I had a massive dip on Sunday - am hoping in might be implantion dip but am aware how stupid that sounds. I might test on Friday as AF is due on Saturday too. I wonder if I can hold out that long??

magic nice to see you - the yawns have you already?!

Oh hopefully, I know exactly how you feel about not being able to imagine getting a BFP again. Which is ironic as there was a time when I couldn't imagine NOT getting a BFP.

(Two attempts. Two BFPs. So in my more crazy days, I do wonder whether I've peaked too soon and exhausted my share of the national average - ie. it takes an average of nine attempts for a woman in her early 30s to get pregnant. I got pg twice in two attempts. Which means I will have to try 25 further times before I get my 3rd BFP. Fucked up thinking, eh?)

While we're talking about temping, I'm clearly shit at it as mine are all over the place - including some very very low temps in the three days leading up to ov and no discernable cover line. I know it's my first go at this but I'm most definitely confused.com.

hi everyone, I just realised I hadn't posted for a while --- the dress I bought was the one I linked, but in ivory I'm so excited now, it's less than 4 weeks till the wedding, my dress will be ready for pickup on the 2nd of august. eeek.

Please, someone pass me a fish of some sort, I keep thinking that testing now would be a good idea - my RTD wasn't really an RTD, it was more like glorified spotting, and also a week later than expected. Keep imagining that it could have been implantation bleeding. Yeah right. I. Will. Not. Test. (she says, having bought 4 CB digis yesterday....)

Sorry to not namecheck, DS is bawling. Stupid teeth.

Ivy I suppose it wouldn't do any harm to check?? not helping, I know.

loopy and batteryhen there seem to have been a few posters recently who had no symptoms and were surprised by a BFP, so you never know! viv low temps before ov are good, aren't they? Some people can tell their ov day by a super low temp.

So was going to test tomorrow but am now spotting now and boobs are de-soreing themselves so think RTD has got me, alas. Will see if I can be arsed to test tomorrow... is it weird that I really hate testing and always want to leave it to the last minute?

I need a slap - POAS at 7dpo with the expected result. God knows why.

Ivy I would test if I were you... and if you have 4 tests in you can get away with doing one now

lucysnowe Sorry to hear about RTD, better luck next month.

Viv I want your luck. Pregnant at 1st attempt this time round would be AMAZING. Although if I'm not I will be able to drink champagne on my wedding anniversary.

batteryhen good luck with the not testing, will keep my fingers crossed for you

hopefully If you can collect your FMU and save it (behind the toilet) you could then use it for testing once your DH had left? Not that I would do anything that obsessive, oh no....

Cd1 has arrived. This cycle I will mostly be temping and chugging ac and epo.

hopefully can you not sneak a test into the loo the night before so dh won't see you carrying it in?

Lucy does this mean we're still cycle buddies?

ivy I'm sure even if you get a bfp you'll be allowed a glass of bubbly on your honeymoon!

Bless you delilah - I'd like some of my old luck back too, but given neither BFP amounted to a baby in the end, I can hardly say it's been a successful run. Sigh.

Lucy - that's interesting about the temps. I didn't realise that was a sign of ovulation, so that's given me some hope that I'm not a freak of nature. I had three consecutive days of super low temps on days 12, 13 and 14, a spike on 15, a drop on 16 (when I think I ov'd), then a spike, then a drop and then I've been high ever since. So I'm totally about it all.

ivy - I def think it wouldn't hurt to test...

Delilah that beats my own personal record of 9dpo! Viv your made up stats are disheartening - please don't look at it that way. Your BFP is surely on the way since you are 8 cycles and the average is 9. So not long to go, keep the faith!

On the subject of temps when I got an increase it was usually quite distinct - about 0.3 - 0.5 higher. I did notice a dip also right before ov for a few days too.

I had my scan this morning, so far so good I guess. Baby in right place and we saw a heartbeat. The only downside was a measurement of 6 instead of 7 weeks - I am dead sure of my dates. Trying not to obssess that this means there is something wrong. Failing miserably most of the time but have taken some reassusrance - felt sick with nerves this morning. Its the only pregnancy sickness I've had so far!

Hope you are all good x

Delilah I'm liking the idea of hiding the FMU behind the toilet... Not sure if there's room, will have to investigate! Our toilet is separate from the bathroom, but adjoining it, so not easy to hide things and/or go in unnoticed while DP is showering in the morning!

I'm meant to be finishing a quilt I'm sewing, so I'm... making a dress. Logical.

I fell pregnant first time trying with DS and with MC in January, and we're now 6 or 7 cycles on from that and no joy yet.

Ivy how exciting about your wedding! I met up with a lovely photographer today, who I'm booking, despite extortionate fee (hey, we have an unexpected free wedding venue, I've got to spend the cash somewhere )

Oh come on, guys, you are really not helping :P Good thing I left all the peesticks in DS' tray at nursery. lol. Don't ask why, but I must go and get them tomorrow. Very much doubt it'll be BFP, because while it wasn't a proper RTD, it could have been anything - and I did have a BFN just a couple of days before... good lord, I don't want to know how much I've wasted on peesticks in the last 9 months...

Moo try not to worry. ~hugs~

hopefully I definitely know what you mean about extortionate fees - my photographer costs more than my dress, shoes, honeymoon, food and everything else put together. shudder.

Moof* thats is great news that you saw the heartbeat. Really positive. Don't worry about the size doll, you know from having DD1 that from now on in your bean is always going to be on this centile or that centile and being compared to the average........so try to relax. Your bean will probably be gearing up for a massive growth spurt now! Will you be having another scan? xx

Viv I don't think you have peaked hun, I still think this will be your Magic8 cycle x

Bloomin 'eck Ivy what service are your photographers providing?!!!!

Thanks Ivy, Loopy and 8s - I'm feeling more positive than I was yesterday. I think I am more worried aboout it because with the bean we lost I also had a scan at 7 weeks due to abdominal pain, where we also saw a heartbeat but the bean measured closer to 5 weeks than 7. The hospital have actually been very good and offered another scan 2 weeks from now. That means that I don't need to wait 5 weeks to the 12 week scan, which I had dreaded after the previous experience of finding the MMC at that point.

They also told me yesterday that there is a haematoma, which i can see on the scan pic off to the side of the bean. Does anyone have any experience of this and what it means?

Sorry, I'll stop hogging the TTC thread now!!

moof - that is fab news, honey, really it is. I know it's easy to say (especially after we've both been through similar experiences where things haven't worked out well) but do try to think positive. Certainly when I was in the same boat, I was told that in the majority of cases, things work out fine and the bean ends up catching up - so what Magic says about it simply being a case of averages is true.

Good news about the next scan too. Will keep everything crossed for you.

Day 6 or 7 dpo here and I'm bored of the 2ww and just wish I could know one way or another. Am eating oodles of brazil nuts, so feel like a squirrel.

Did a test this morning - BFN. Am not completely giving up hope (still 3 days till AF even due), but am also feeling completely resigned to it not happening - it hasn't happened for the past 6 months, why start now? Am also feeling that sod's law will be working against us, as this is really the last month it would be sensible to TTC for a few months if we want to avoid having a newborn at our wedding. Urgh.

Will test again tomorrow in last ditch effort to find out whether to expect AF while camping (although will probably take everything anyway, as I'll be sitting there waiting to MC even if I did get a BFP...)

viv are you the cough syrup swigger? I have bought some that contains the ingredient that makes you all runny. At what point in your cycle do you start quaffing?

And Agnus Castus / EPO pill poppers...do you stop taking it once you've ovulated?

moof completely understand your anxiety, but you're getting more attention from the medical bods this time so the odds are massively in your favour

LONG POST ALERT:

I have just found out that a close friend I thought never really wanted kids is now pregnant. Obviously I'm very pleased for her and wish her nothing but easy times ahead...buuuuuut (and I would never ever say this out loud in the RL) I'm feeling ever so slightly miffed about the fact that she doesn't actually want kids, still isn't sure about it and has openly admitted to planning this pregnancy from a purely practical pov. They got lucky first time, after she expected it to take months and so I've immediately felt this wall shoot up between us (she'll never know the pain and heartbreak of long term ttc). She's one of my bestest friends, but knowing that she's not really that keen on being a mother and not even had to go through of a couple of cycles trying in order to solidify in her mind that this is what she really wants makes me wonder if we'll be able to get on as 'mothers'.

Now this is probably a topic for a completely different are of MN, but the people I know in RL who've had an easy time getting pg and have scheduled their pregnancies for practicality over maternal urges all seem to have a similar attitude to parenting. They rush to get their lives back to normal post-birth: bottle feeding because it suits their schedule not because they can't breastfeed; going back to work within 6 months, not for financial reasons; able to go out for weekends away from their babies much earlier than I could. I'm absolutely NOT judging them for it, but am just wondering if they find it easier to slot their babies around them (rather than the other way round) because they never had that really intense feeling of really really wanting a child. It just happened for them. Whereas it took a lot of effort for us to conceive DS, I couldn't tear myself away from him (not saying that's a good thing), breastfed until he was 15 months because I felt it was part of my responsibility to give him the best possible start in life (not saying it is, just how I felt at the time). I'm only just about to go on a hen weekend in a few weeks time which means I'll spend my first night away from him (he'll be 2 at the end of Aug). Even though I don't judge the friends that are 'schedulers' I always get the feeling that they think I'm a bit of a shit mum who's a slave to her child and has a miserable ilfe as a result and thank god they're not me.

Sorry - probably not the right place for this post with some of ttc#1, but you ladies at least understand me on the 'struggling to ttc' side of things, even if your experience of other parents is different.

x-posted hopefully sorry about the bfn...know very much how you feel . Even when I get rtd I think perhaps it's an implantation bleed , but it's usualy quite obvious it isn't.

digi - I am indeed the cough medicine swigger (that's SO going on my tombstone!). I started quaffing around day 8 or 9 and noticed an effect almost immediately. I took it twice a day - once when I got up, and once before bed.

I'm going to have a mull over your styles of parenting question as I think a lot of my friends who have children all parent in a similar way - and while the vast majority seemed to conceive soon after starting to try, two have experienced fertility issues in the past. (One with an mmc as her first pregnancy and another who took over a year to conceive her first child.)

On the whole, I don't see any noticable differences in the parenting styles of those who conceived quickly and those who didn't. But then i don't really know anybody who has fallen pregnant without previously wanting children, if that makes sense...

I am going to do a big catch up in a sec, but...

I thought I had a 'normal' cycle (first proper one post m/c) since I had my son (2 years ago). I came on CD38, it made my LP 14 days, I know I ov'd on CD23. All quite positive really, though I had odd pregnancy symptoms but when I 'came on' assumed it was just pmt gone a bit bonkers. I tested on CD35 and got a BFN. So when the period went a bit odd and stopped/ started and had 'stale' bleeding, I tested on what would have been CD8 of a new cycle. It was a BFP. I got another this morning. I am completely confused and seeing my GP this afternoon.

I think I need 48 hour blood test rather than a scan, but I don't see how I could have a succesful outcome if I've been bleeding for 8 days... I've increased my aspirin as advised by GP last time.

If this goes wrong it will be m/c number 5.

moof agree with all the others - the fact you have seen a HB is a really good thing - I know how anxious you are, but please try and relax - your bean seems to be doing fine

viv am bored to death of the 2WW too. I have never known time go so slowly.....

hopefully sorry about your BFN, however, I still think its not over till AF arrives - maybe you just tested too early. I am not preaching here - did a test ysterday afternoon on dpo9 this was also after drinking about a gallon of liquid as I have had a urine infection. Of course it was BFN. However I haven't tested again today - feel a bit crampy so feel I might be getting AF early. The old Biatch

Digi You sound like a lovely mummy to me. Anyone who thinks you are shit is clearly deranged. I have to admit when I fell PG in January - I was very relaxed about the whole thing, fell straight away etc etc, but having gone through the MMC I am now slightly obsessed with getting PG again. Its not that I had a 'don't care attitude' but I just thought - if it happens it does etc etc. Now though, things have changed, my maternal instincts are really strong, I just can't wait to get pregnant. Miscarriage changes you , no matter who you are. It is difficult when your friend has the don't care attitude - but you sound like you are being a lovley friend, which is all you can do I guess. Your bean is on its way - as are all of ours xxx

My friend told me last night she is pregnant - very early, but was asking me about midwife services, what not to eat, blah blah. - I really couldn't be arsed with all the questions etc but smiled and told her what she needed to know..... am happy really, just feeling a bit emotional as I know AF is coming xxx

Wave to everyone else xxx

Right, wet fish at the ready, please.

I just did another test (umm... because testing again 5 hours after a BFN is likely to be a useful thing ), and it was, of course, BFN. Of course, being the weirdo obsessive that I am, I checked it just before tossing it in the bin, and there was the faintest of faintest of faintest lines. Now, this was right on the cusp of the 10 minute time limit, and a bit of googling suggests that internet cheapies are more likely than most tests to suffer from evap lines, so am far from optimistic, but am debating popping out for a CBD to test tomorrow morning. Have one more internet cheapy though, so wondering whether I should use that tomorrow, then get CBD in the highly unlikely event that it's positive.

Slap me now!

DG I know exactly how you feel. Someone I know has a foreign (non EU) partner - they had an accidental baby a couple of months after I had T, ended up together a year later (very sweet, I have no need to think evil thoughts of them). She is currently back in her home country and has just announced she is PG. They have been fairly open about the fact that it only took one try, and they mainly tried because they want her to maximise her visa chances, rather than burning desire for second child. I had a few unfriendly thoughts myself. I also think a lot of my friends (and family) think I am a slave to DS, as I have never left him with anyone but DP overnight (and only twice ever), and DP and I take him pretty much everywhere with us. All our family who are always talking about their next break from their kids, and who they can get to babysit next so they can go on a mini-break think we're bonkers, but we're happy

Battery sorry you had to do the supportive friend thing. I'm hoping none of my close friends announce pregnancies before me, as I will be bitter in the extreme, and probably not nearly as nice as you. Luckily most PG people I know are on DC2, which means that they are less inclined to talk about their pregnancy ALL THE TIME.

moof congrats on heartbeat and like the other say, the odds of m/c now are v. v. small... hope the rest of the pg goes smoothly now for you.

digi yes indeed cycle buddy tho I think I beat you this time, 42 days to your poxy 40 tch. let's hope we get some good news next time.

viv hmm, your temps are a bit confusing but it does look as though you oved when you think you did. Assuming it coincided with your last day of EWCM. You can get the odd 'wrong' temp but you have to ignore them - as long as the general pattern is low before ov, high after...