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VJay · 04/06/2010 17:54

...thanks to all the support we get in the greenhouse

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MummyLovesSadie · 13/06/2010 21:28

Hello ladies

I feel like I've been absent without a note from my Mummy for a long time! Last week was mad-busy, far too busy for my liking. This week is going to be more sane, so more time to catch up with you lot. I had a call from Kings College on Thursday to say that 'surprise surprise' they do have my notes after all. However, they will not send them to me & I have to go in to collect them in person. I'm getting dh onto them tomorrow.

Blue sorry your ds1 has the pox. There is so much of it about at the moment & I'm not quite sure how my dd has managed to escape it. I've heard the best thing is (along with calamine cream) is antihistamine syrup.

4ever is it tomorrow your dh goes back to work?

Barbie hows the coil?

Curly I hope curlygirl is being good to her Mummy & you are not having too many tears at bedtime (both yours & hers). Eeek at you thinking I'm going to have a boy. I finally finished sorting out all of dd's old clothes today & I now have 5 crates & two large bags of pinkness so this baby had better be a girl!

Vjay yay to being a SAHM (& spending all day on mn!)

Cupcake you poor thing, I had to stifle a little giggle at your fanjo being photographed though! There is NO WAY I'd let anyone take a picture of mine !! Out of interest, how many stitches did you have to have?

Neeko when are you planning operation battle of the bottle number 2? I hope your dh is behaving himself.

Jools I hope mission seduction was successful this weekend?

QA I'm sorry things aren't so great with you at the moment. Remember we are here to hold your hand when you are ready to talk about it.

Sabs what do you think of BB? I've not properly got into it yet, in fact after the first couple of shows I thought I wasn't going to be able to watch it as they are all too irritating, but I soldiered on! We also have a Lottie which is currently residing in the loft! Do you know that it plays the most god-awful tinny tune if you press one of the antenna?!!

Shaggy are you feeling better now? How is the bd'ing going this cycle? Have you had a sustained temp rise now?

Louey sorry to hear about your ds. Vjay is the resident expert in the field & if it is any consolation, her ds1 is an absolute treasure that any Mummy would be proud of.

PFJ are you gearing up now for the bd onslaught?!

GG pretty please could we have some christening photo's sent to the Emmsy's list as I'm sure we all want to 'oooooo & aaaaaaaah' over your dd!

Iggynextonthelist what's happening with that offer on your house & did you make any decisions about Nunhead?

Monkey how are you doing? I know your gorge gynae said you had ov'd a few days previous but I don't suppose you managed to get a sneaky bd or two in beforehand??!

I have become strangely addicted to the baby name thread. It is hilarious! Can you believe that some woman wanted to name her baby girl Frigga????

MummyLovesSadie · 13/06/2010 21:40

Watching bb now. I have to say that my heart is racing for poor moley! What on earth are they going to get the poor guy to do next??!

littlebellsmum · 13/06/2010 22:04

Really quick post as it's my bed time and I had a bit of a night with BabyJ last night.

Yay to vjay for both being a SAHM and also the baby seagulls! Both things to be proud of

Barbie hope you are back before I go back to work as i'd love to meet up

4ever Glad that summer likes her pram - babyJ isn't so keen on hers but she ight be getting over it as today we went to the park with the older two and she slept in it nicely only waking for a couple of snacks.
And well done you on finding your lippy!

BabyJ has been a bit constipated the last few days and woke up at 2am screaming blue murder which she continued to do for 30 minutes and scared the life out of me . She was so upset that I was to worried to put her down and slept sat up with her on my chest all night. She then missed her 3am feed and I had to wake her at 6am as my boobs were about to burst!! which is a first for me - I really think I might have more milk for this one as I've had painfully full boobs all day today and I don't ever remember it happening before. She also didn't manage to finish her top up at 8, which I am taking as a good sign and then managed to fill 3 nappies in quick succession as the blockage cleared!! Sadly, I was on nappy duty tonight...

Hi to everyone else - will post more soon

Neeko · 13/06/2010 23:01

Hi all.
Hope you're all well.

Vjay Yay to being a SAHM. I'm although I'll initially only be going back 3 days and hope to make that permanent. Can't wait to see pictures of the seagulls even though I hate seagulls. Maybe you could join Blue and I when we meet up during the summer hols??

Barbie How did the coil fitting go? I'm booked in week after this and I'm very nervous. Have regained dignity since H was born.

speaking of dignity at Cupcake's fanjo photos!! Hope you're feeling better and have had a good weekend away.

I've been texting Blue with advice as DD1 had the pox recently. Her DS1 has about 80 spots, poor wee lamb. Fingers crossed DS2 doesn't get them.

4ever well done for getting out and about and good luck for flying solo tomorrow.

Gracie texted me with bottle advice. She's not been on much as I isn't sleeping but christening went well.

MLS hope things are calmer. please rest this week before your holiday packing frenzy begins.

Curly sounds like you're doing sterling work with the PUPD. have a wry at your comment on your DH. I hid upstairs for over an hour once when mine was trying H with the bottle. The crying almost killed me and when I came down he said he'd tried 3 times. The rest of the crying was hunger!

Iggy I'm getting so excited for you. I think you're having a boy and MLS a girl.

Moon Hope things are calming down for you and you're ok.

LBM Yay to full (.)(.)! Hope J appreciates them.

Jools yay to early ovulation. Hope operation BD has been a success.

Sabs How's your weekend been? Are you enjoying the footie? Sorry if this is a personal question but do you have a ceremony similar to a christening for S?

PFJ Your rambly posts make me laugh. You write in a stream of consciousness and it's quite amazing all the different tangets your mind goes on!

QA sorry you got bad news. Hope they can sort it out.

Mermaid HELLO! HELLO? Are you out there or did DS bury you in the sand on holiday and forget to dig you back up?

Monkey I've dug out my pompoms for you. we're with you every step of the way.

I had a very up and down weekend. Lots of time with extended family. H has started refusing to feed from my left side. Not sure if the milk is flowing too quickly as I can easily express 6oz in about 5 mins from that side. Took 1.5 hours to go down tonight and was on and off my right one so feeling a lttle chaffed!
I'm going to start trying the bottle again tomorrow. Going to try a tommee tippee CTN this time but don't hold out much hope. It breaks my heart to say it as I have no problem with supply, but if she's still refusing left side in a week AND won't take the bottle, I think I'll have to go cold turkey and FF.
It feels wrong because I can bf no problem and so many others aren't so lucky, but I'm really feeling trapped.

Anyway, enough moaning. Night all

barbie1 · 14/06/2010 06:50

Goodmorning!

I didnt have the coil fitted yesterday...

The reason i was going too was due to the fact that i wasnt allowed to take any pill because of my mum having had breast cancer and i also suffer from migraines. The last coil i had was fitted 4 years ago for these reasons.

Fast forward to yesterday, i casually mentioned to doctor about the pill and she informed me that there was a newer pill on the market which is safe when breast feeding and has the exact same properties at the marina coil, and best of all even if i suffer from migraines and have the breast cancer history in my family i can still take them. Breathe a sign of relieve for being able to keep my knickers on!
I got 2 months worth to see if i get on with them (also you have to pay for them over here and didnt want to waste any money on on unused pills)

My other concern was after having the last one out and then suffering the mmc a few months later i did some reading and there is (very slight) evidence that the coil increases the risk of having a mc and as dh and i want another baby in the future i didnt want to increase my risks any more then they are.

neeko remember to take 2 painkillers before having the coil fitted, as my doctor told me yesterday just as i was about to have it fitted another reason the pills seemed a better option!
Oh and re your breast feeding issues, can you not get one of those breast shield thingys which slow the flow from the left breast? might be worth a go before you have to give up all together??? 6oz in 5 mins is exceptionally fast i can do 4 oz in about 10 mins.
How will you ff is she still wont take the bottle?
D is still eating loads so the other day thought we might bulk her up with formula but she refused point blank and since then has once again refused the bottle I guess she thinks we are trying to trick her. Will have another go this evening.

lbm when do you go back to work? if you are already back maybe we can make it for a weekend? Ill let everyone know of dates soon....

mls nice of them to find your notes for you nice to see you back...

Whoops gotta run...

Neeko · 14/06/2010 08:36

Morning Barbie Hadn't thought of breast shield but can't see her going for that if she won't take bottle willingly. Know she'll take take it eventually if nothing else is on offer, but then there's no going back and I so don't want to do that. Sigh.

barbie1 · 14/06/2010 08:47

neeko did you try any of the tips on the bottle thread i linked too? Im still doing the boobie trick and it works most of the time. Im sure there are nipple shields that are very fine and almost 'not there' iyswim... just maybe she will fall for it???

If she will take a ff from a bottle because thats all that is on offer can you not do a bottle of ebm? At the end of the day a bottle is a bottle? Wish i had some words of wisdom to offer but sadly as a newbie im not much use!

Oh and how the heck do dream feeds work, last night i decided to try it. Sleepy D latched on right away, sucked a few minutes and feel fast asleep again managed to get her to feed some more and put her back to bed....where she promptly woke for a short while and then feel back to sleep. A ha thought i, dream fed accomplished...looked forward to waking up later than 12.30am

Roll on 12.30am and D is awake wanting feeding like clockwork...

Ok i thought maybe she will sleep until 6am

4.30am wide awake, talking and laughing

Took til 6.15 to get her back to sleep.

What did i do wrong????

Neeko · 14/06/2010 09:06

when I say there'd be no going back I mean I'd never be able to bf her again. Have about 50oz of milk in freezer and she'd def get that. Going to keep trying the bottle first tho. Not quite ready to give in yet!

Sorry I cant help with dream feeds. Any time I've tried Ive had the same response as you!

barbie1 · 14/06/2010 09:12

oh i get you now I think you are doing the right thing...i do a day of trying the bottle and if she doesnt take it i dont force the matter, some days i win, some days i dont
The days im most relaxed about it are the days she seems to take it

Oh and she has just self settled to sleep ... woke after 45 mins sleep, heard her on the monitor but decided to leave it a minute and to my surprise ive just been up to check on her and she is fast asleep.

Damn those dream feeds, might start a thread to see what i did wrong!

Neeko · 14/06/2010 09:19

Yay to self settling. Focus on the battles you're winning!

VJay · 14/06/2010 10:59

Morning, a bleary eyed Vjay here, Ajay now has the sick bug, he is on his third change of clothes already, the poor love

mls you are so sweet, thanks for the comments re ds1, I am not really an expert only on my own ds1, and even then I can get it wrong. Lol at all your pink clothes, what will you do if it IS a boy?

barbie what is the name of this new pill. I can't take the one with oestragen (sp?) in due to family history of thrombosis, so I used to take the mini pill then kept forgetting to take the blardy thing at the same time each day.

neeko stop giving yourself a hard time lovely lady, if you want to stop bf then stop, no one is going to judge you, it's a very personal decision, but a hormonal one granted. You have given H so much already, and you want a bit of booby free time before you go back to work, I totally understand, maybe cold turkey is the way to go. Both Ajay and blues B took the bottle once there was no other option. Good luck sweetie xx

Ajay is getting tired but has no bed as I'm trying to dry out his cot matress, oh well will have to settle for a looonnnggg cuddle

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barbie1 · 14/06/2010 11:05

hi vjay..sorry your lo is sick
the mimi pill im on can be taken up to 12 hours late if you forget it, which is handy im my dizzy blonde state! i think its the new version of cerazette

VJay · 14/06/2010 11:10

Thanks barbie, it's always good to have a back up plan. Also I think you're doing the right think not having the coil back in if you want more children. All the docs say my mc's had nothing to do with the coil, but a lot of us have had them after its removal, so I'm not convinced.

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MummyLovesSadie · 14/06/2010 11:30

Neeko 6oz in 5 mins????? 50oz in freezer???? All I can say is 'mooooooooooo'!!

Barbie I used to do dream feeds but used a bottle which I think was a bit easier. I'd literally lift her out of her cot, she'd stay asleep but would start 'routing' so I'd slip the bottle in & she'd guzzle it down & then straight back to bed.

Vjay if it is a boy he will wear pink dresses!

Dd was trying to break me in for motherhood part 2 this morning I think as we've been awake since 4am.

iggypiggy · 14/06/2010 12:08

Just jumping on quickly while I can - will be back properly next week!

Scary to be next on the list!

sabs not going to do much at work on my last day, but we might all go for lunch... but as there are loads of us, that may be an undertaking!

mls we def not moving there! But we have got an accepted offer on a house somewhere else, but am too worried it will fall through to say much more as this is the third house we have tried to buy.... the first two fell through for various reasons.. Sorry you had to get up at 4am today

neeko everyone I meet thinks i am having a boy - so you may be right Also hope you get the feeding sorted - I have to say it is one of the things that worries me!

barbie that's good news about keeping the knickers on

vjay sorry ajay not well poor thing...

Also sorry to hear about the dreaded pox blue

I haven't got much news... am 35 weeks tomorrow and am looking forward to finishing work on Fri! I have a group b strep test to look forward to on Thurs - but also another scan - so that will be nice!

waves to everyone else!
xx

iggypiggy · 14/06/2010 12:08

oh yes - meant to reply to justshaggy about Vajazzling - you need to google it - I think Jennifer Love Hewitt talks about it on a tv show somewhere

VJay · 14/06/2010 12:22

Thought I had got away with the Vajazzling , trust you to remember iggy

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loueytbg · 14/06/2010 16:39

iggy just googled vajazzling at work. Probably wasn't a very good idea . Lets hope they are not monitoring my internet activity today Yay for 35 weeks - I bet you are looking forward to being on ML now.

blue I'm sorry your Isaac has chicken pox. Randomly, DTs had it exactly a year ago (we missed a party because of it). Must be the season for it. Anyway, my Isaac had it really badly, absolutely covered with spots and looked dreadful. DS2 had only a few spots and you barely knew he had it. They developed spots within an hour of each other - so it was weird how one child could be so badly affected, and the other not. Anyway, forgive my rambling but wanted to say that if you are having trouble with itching, get some piriton. Works a treat, much better than calamine IME.

Neeko you are indeed a milk machine. Am v . It took me ages to get 2-3 oz out. Can see your dilemma though - could you go cold turkey and stop the bf'ing but continue to express so she is getting your milk. If you can express that much in a short space of time it might not take you too much extra time. My sister did this, partly because she wanted to see how much my niece was actually taking.

MLS 4am is rough. Anything before 6am is inhuman with toddlers that don't have a nap during the daytime. Hope you have a better night tonight.

Vjay poor Ajay hope he stops puking soon. I am not sure I know which email address is yours out of the list - I only have the list of email addresses which were on cupcake's email with the pics of Jude. I haven't linked everyone up yet. Is there some other magical Emmsy's place that I don't know about?

LBM glad babyJ cleaned herself out in the end. Its horrible when they are constipated and you can't do much about it. Poor you having to deal with the nappies though.

barbie glad you kept your knickers on Am filing away in my mush of a brain that you have fabby new pill as I also can't take combined pill due to migraines and will have to think about what to do next (once I've had no 3 that is ) Hope that D continues to sleep lots at night. Bet you feel like a new woman now.

QA I'm sorry you are having such a rough time and the TTC is on hold. We're all here to talk if you want to.

4ever yay for getting out of the house. I'm sorry you are still suffering though, hope it heals up soon. Loving your posts though, you can tell how much you are in love with Summer and its so nice to read after your very stressful pg

cupcake you too. Having heard about your poor sore fanjos, it reminds me why I am going to chicken out of going down the natural birth route if I have another one. (In my defence I had CS first time round). Hope you had a good weekend at your parents and well done to you and to Jude for regaining his birth weight. 3hr feeds must be knackering.

Jools hope you got some bd action in this weekend Is your work likely to calm down anytime soon or is this normal?

sabs are you enjoying BB? I saw the first programme but have resisted since. Have no hope now as the world cup is on as DH is a football fanatic. Hope the teething is not causing too many problems - mine often had runny noses (and yukky nappies) when they had teeth coming through so it may linger for a while.

pfj thanks for the brownies. They were just what I needed So lovely Jack is staring to say so much, its very cute when they are just learning.

Justshaggy hope you are feeling better. I'm sure that if you are pg that your illness won't have affected the little bean.

baking good luck for your exams - what are they for?

monkey am v v pleased that you got the all clear from the lovely gynae Keeping fingers crossed that it all goes smoothly this time from start to finish.

Waves to mermaid, gracie, mrskate and moon

Thank you all for your hugs and support. I am wobbling a lot, partly I think because I need a really good cry and we've had relatives staying/visiting so have been having to put on a happy face. It has hit home more because we've seen lots of family who have children of a similar age to DTs and it is so apparent how different DS1 is. We went to my Dad's yesterday and you literally have to follow him around to make sure he is not doing something dangerous. All very stressful. Although we knew he had lots of autistic symptoms, I was hoping he was going to catch up and now I'm not sure he will . I'm also worried about the long-term future, whether he will ever be independent.

This morning was sitting at work almost in tears which is so not me at all. Fortunately its very quiet at work. I went for a run at lunchtime and feel a bit better now.

On the TTC front, DH doesn't appear to have (yet) changed his mind again despite the diagnosis. Operation seduction is not going to plan though as he is away on business this week. Rubbish timing. Keep your fingers crossed that I don't get a +OPK until at least Thursday (only on CD8 but usually get one at CD11-12 so its going to be touch and go.)

Oh and I'm in London (live West of london, but work in Central London). Would love to meet up if I can.

ThePFJ · 14/06/2010 16:53

Hi girls,

Neeko Thank you for your kind words in regards to the way the words cascade unceasingly unfettered from my ever open mouth with no regard to any kind of socially punctilious check point from the unending stream of crap and concious multi-leveled cogitation that makes up the complicated, and possibly slightly deranged Annex, that I like to call the PFJ mind. Ahem.

And stuff.

I am feeling emotional, tired and pissed off at my DH. He never ever listens to me when I tell him how embarrassed and upset it makes me when he loses his temper and argues with me in front of our friends. Especially when its over feck all, and he's just acting like an over-tired 2 year old. Wait... I already have one of those. Crap. Well this time I made fecking sure he knew how upset I was after yesterdays little hour long episode.

He always makes an effort on most other things that are important to me. And he's been trying to make it up to me all day now. (All those chores I had to do later... are getting themselves done while I am not looking, as if by magic!! ) But I am going to let him stew for a few more days. I am literally so embarrased and pissed off that our friends had to see a 36 year old man acting like a toddler. And that that man, was indeed my husband... nargh...

Why are men such cocks!? Is there no self control? And yet I am still going to drag him to bed tommorrow night because I love the bastard.

4everhopeful · 14/06/2010 17:04

Wow Igs 35wk! ....Vjay hope ur boys better soon! ....MLS u could always get blue dye & get creative adapting the girly clothes! Thanks 4 rememberin bout DH too! ....LBM i must be lucky with Summer & her pram! She is bein good to me mainly, said to cupcake its like they kno we are suffering so givin us an easy ride, tho also had some constipation tears which really worried me til we worked out what the prob was! ... Yay to pill barbie, think i may have been on that way back cos same history with mum... In awe of Neeko at MLS moo comment! I been mooing to DH whilst expressio my pitiful 2oz that tales nearly 3omins for her evening snack! She wolfs down the 4oz of ff every 4hrs, still tryin bf occasionally but she latches then instantly goes to sleep mainly, or gets frustrated not gettin it quick enough, think it was all over the sec she had top up from a cup at hosp & knew how fast she could guzzle it! Thanks 4 tx re DH goin back to work today, as said tho he redid his driving test today & passed! He ended up having this morning off before a 2hr lesson, so had practice run of bein on own! Summer slept in her pram in kitchen while i got on major sorting/cleaning mission! Dh now food shoppin with in laws (for 3rd wk as still not getting out) so got used to occasional time on own but will be wierd 2moro when he is back full time! Mind u, i have mw coming to check my still open wound, & hv coming as well so will keep me distracted! Am v glad mw coming too, as after prob overdoing it a bit, went loo & passed a massive clot.. bit worried tbh... Its been 3wks, surely shouldnt happen now should it? Anyone else had similar experience?

ThePFJ · 14/06/2010 17:08

Wait. Change that last entire post to:

Neeko You mean my verbal diahorrea? Can't seem to do feck all about it!!

4everhopeful · 14/06/2010 17:23

X post! PFJ sorry to hear ur DH is being an arse & making u feel crap... Hope he redeems himself with the chores today & in the bedroom tomorrow! Louey also sorry to hear how down & understandably worried u are about DS diagnosis, must be such a worry, big hug to you hon, wish i had some words of wisdom to help... Better go, summer is stirring, meant to say as well as the funny mooing whilst expressing, the other day when shhing summer to sleep, DH made me pmsl by sayin 'mummys got a puncture!' was so funny i had to share! On a serious note tho any advice re clot much appreciated! X

monkeybumsmum · 14/06/2010 18:37

Just dashing in to say I'm still alive but having a madly busy couple of weeks so not been able to catch up. Really hope everyone's okay! Will try to get myself up to date on Wednesday, but until then am thinking of you all and hoping everything is well. Lots of love xxx

ps all fine here - think AF is trying to start but we shall see!

monkeybumsmum · 14/06/2010 18:41

pps I did see your news Louey but haven't had chance to write since then. I'm so sorry that this is happening, and i hope that you get the help that your lovely ds needs. I have a tiny bit of experience in this area, and the boy that I have worked with improved a great deal given the right care. It brings a smile to my face just thinking about how well he is doing, and I so hope that this will be the case with your ds. Hang in there... xxx

littlebellsmum · 14/06/2010 21:12

Hi everyone
Louey Really sorry to hear how down you are but the pom poms are still at the ready for ttc.....

Neekothemilkmachine I too an in awe.... you are some milk factory. And breast feeding has to work for both you and H - if it's making you unhappy, it's not working for you and so, you should stop. Her time as a baby is really short - enjoy it ( so much easier said than done)

Barbie October 4th, so you will probably not be back by then! Weekend could work...

PFJ we love the vd - verbal diaoreha that is!! Long may it continue, untill toddlermen!

4ever I can't comment on the clots after three weeks - hopefully someone else can help. Mention it to the mw tomorrow - she shold be able to help. Good luck tomorrow - can't believe that you've been cleaning!

iggy 5 weeks to go - how good is that!

Finally - advice on what breast pump to buy - I wasn't having one as I didn't want to go down the expressing route. But as we are already topping up, to keep my milk supply up, I'd like to express in an evening and so, need a pump - any advice gratefully recieved..

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