Emmsys Weebles; we all have our wobbles but we never fall down...

[VJay]

...thanks to all the support we get in the greenhouse

4ever Soooo sorry for not having texted you back - my phone is being a nightmare and most of the time not working. It's one of those touch screen ones, but now I 'touch' and it ignores. (Think it's a bit worn out ) Love, love, love the pics of Summer, she is just beautiful!!! Thank you for sending them
That's great that you got her feet cast in bronze - we had ds's hand and footprint done in clay (I think ) - it's one of those John Lewis ones, and it's on the wall in our bedroom. I still just sit and look at it in amazement.
Sending you a big hug for the anniversary on the 15th, it's horrible to think of what could have been isn't it . Lots of love, and thanks again for the pics! xxx

PS Happy Anniversary for Wednesday! What are you going to do?

Oh glad to hear you not p'd off with me monkey! I was worried! That will teach me to not check addresses on mails! Yea we got Summers bronze cast done at our lovely local craft market, v expensive tho, £180! Had a lovely day there yesterday tho.. On our anniversary we plan to go to church & introduce S to our vicar & have a little prayer of thanks, then go to our wedding venue gardens, then off for a meal at a posh hotel in wimbledon! Really lookin forward to it... How are u doing lovely lady? Great that ur holidays start now, very much needed.. Will u & DH be able to get away anywhere? Kno his hols are limited..

monkey how was the champagne??? Hope you have a lovely 9 weeks break. This is the time of year that I always get quite jealous of teachers.....

We haven't completely solved the nappy problem yet but last night he didn't do it. I think he was so knackered he didn't have time to take it off before he crashed. Bribery doesn't work because he doesn't really understand more complicated instructions. So it might stop him taking if off that night, but wouldn't the next morning IYSWIM.

4ever don't apologise. We know how hard it is to get on and post with a newborn, let alone when you are still recovering from the whole ordeal. Hope you have a lovely anniversary on Wednesday. We also got the boys hands/feet cast (not in bronze though!). Its on their bedroom wall and it is so lovely to look at. Hope the 15th goes ok, it must be very hard but at least this time you will have baby Summer to cuddle. I know it doesn't make up for it, but you know it has been worth all the pain you have been through.

Still no AF. Am resigned to this being an anovulatory cycle. Am v worried because had huge problems getting pg in the first place with DTs and needed clomid. After I had them, my cycles seemed to get back to some kind of normal and I got pg v quickly at the start of the year. Now I'm wondering if the mc has thrown everything out again . I've been awake since 4am with a horrible sore throat but DH has apologised for being an unsupportive husband so at least there is a silver cloud...

Hi all,

Am still here, just lurking on my phone mainly!

Am very tired the last couple of days, which is annoying as I have been feeling really good. I've been told your body does this in prep for labour, to make you get more rest. Although still got 2 weeks to go...

Hope you all ok xxxx

Hi all. Had really meant to get on here and do a long post before our holiday tomorrow but judging by the state of my house and the packing I've still to do, tis not to be.
I had a lovely birthday yesterday and am really enjoying having DH around for a prolonged time. Will even see him on our anniversary tomorrow though we're not as romantic as 4ever and her DH!

Thanks to Louey Barbie and Sabs for cup advice. DD1 still loves those TT ones. Having a physical and mental rest from whole process while on hols and will hopefully come back ready to try again.

Hope those of you on holiday are having fun, those of you who're sleep deprived/teething are getting some rest, hope the small panters are just around the corner from a BFP and everyone who doesn't fall into those categories is doing fine.

I'll be back next week.

P.S>.Blue Hope 1st day back is going well. Looking forward to our meet up!

Oh and good luck Iggy. Can someone please text me if there's any news?

Oop Neeko happy birthday for yesterday & happy anniversary for tomorrow! Have a fabulous time on holiday too! ....Thanks for bein a sweetie Louey im still for the lack of AF arrival for you! Hope your sore throat impoves... Iggy OMG! 2 weeks! Wow thats flown! Hope your bags are packed? Could be any day now!Re hat, dont worry about it, far too hot! Mat wards are boiling too, even where youre goin with the lush rooms! ...Reminded myself of Cupcake then, hope all good with u my buddy? ....Big hugs to Mermaid too ...must go our biscuit is turning into a grizzog! DH said she smelt like just after she was born & now its stuck! Hes always sniffing her going 'ahhh biscuit!' now we hardly even call her Summer! Poor childs gonna be well confused with her multitude of nicknames!

Hi everyone, just came on for quick catch up.

Thanks for pics of S 4ever-she is just yummy!

Hope all those lucky enough to be going on holiday have a fab time.

Hope your first day back at work going well blue, i go back 2 weeks on wed, looking forward to seeing all my patients again and my lovely work colleagues but not looking forward to leaving E.

Hugs to all those who need them too.

Dont seem too have much time to myself at the minute, E is certainly keeping me on my toes, his good sleeping seems to have hit a bad patch. He only naps for 45 mins at a time and has 2 naps a day, and wakes once or twice a night, he was sleeping through for a few weeks, so not sure whats happened there
He has just started crawling, he pulls himself when he gets over to me and can stand up holding on to me, he also loves me to walk him round the living room holding onto both his hands, little monkey that he is!

Quickie hello and to say I survived first day back at work. It was good to see everyone and my mug and stapler were still where I left them . My Mum was fantastic and had boys at park and cafe for cake (not Ben obviously . Back to being a Mummy tomorrow .

Hi Annie - lovely to hear from you . enjoy your lst two weeks off.

Neeko and 4ever - Happy Anniversaries for tomorrow and Wed respectively . 4ever - at Summer being called biscuit! You need to post a piccie of the bronze casts, I've seen them in magazines and they look so gorgeous. Babies feet are just so edible .

4ever - remember your four lost angels are looking down and looking after Summer x

Vjay - hope you are enjoying the LD and MLS Florida. Happy birthday too!! We miss you both on here...

Iggy - saw your bump on FB - it looks like a boy bump to me - all out the front..

Sabs - we are counting the sleeps until Toy Story 3 . DH and me are taking DS1 to cinema the weekend it comes out. To infinity and beyond!

Monkey - happy school holidays and hope you enjoyed your bubbly . So hope you can kick back, relax and start to smile more and more over the hols x

Louey - sorry your cycle is to pot, it must be so frustrating....

Barbie - hav you tried a bit of tough love yet? I know its hard, so been there. One thing we decided with B was that Iwould not feed him during the night if he work before 3 hours of last being fed as we knew he could go 3 even 4 hours during the day. It did work the couple of night we did it but I then got Gastroenteritus and I have up BF the following week... Devon is so advanced for her age! Girls are just so much more go-getting than boys - lazy tikes.

Saying that Ben is trying to crawl backwards and is a bundle of giggles and smiles - 6 months is a lovely, lovely age. He has two bottom teeth now and likes to sleep on his tummy, my wee man .

right, that's your lot, night all xx

Hello

I havent been on due to having the most grumpy/ clingy four month old ever!

As i said in my last post she is teething and for the last two days has just become so clingy, to the point if i were to put her down she would cry She has also had a few episodes where she has screamed in pain I cant get to see inside her mouth as she just bites me
We have also noticed that she wants to feed so much more too, so wise mummies is this teething? reaction to the jabs or does she need weaning? All the signs for weaning are there but they are so similar to teething

blue We are trying the tough love approach now After reading extensive text about c crying i decided that would have to be the path to take
Night 1.... 12 mins of on and off crying, both me and dh went into check on her constantly. Asleep by 7.30 and slept until 1.30am and then woke at 3.30am wouldnt resettle without a fed so i gave in

Last night was only 7 mins of crying...not so intense this time but she woke at 10.30pm so we let her cry back to sleep...11.30 she woke and wanted feeding, as did she at 1.30, 3.30 and 5.30 I know she can self settle within say 15 mins so last night we let her if she had fed like you mentioned within the last 2 hours but she just wanted boobie! Again a sign of teething????

Dh is going away for 8 days tomorrow, yikes....so i can let her cry a little more in the night without worrying about waking him.
The thing is i worry in case she really is hungry or in pain with the teeth.....

Devon also keeps humming/ moaning herself to sleep in the day! Strange thing...

she keeps doing les dawson impressions and gurning like this!
although the bottom lip goes in so she can cover the bottom gum...bless her.

monkey at 9 weeks off hope the champagne went down well..i havent had a drink for a whole year and 5 weeks.......

louey any news on your cycle???? after my mc i was soooo messed up. 256 days of no periods and then only a tiny spot for 2 days. It can take a few months to get back to normal, although im still holding out for a bfp for you!

sabs i would love to see toy story 3, sadly cinema is a thing of the past for us Until we can get the little monster to sleep at least until 1am i darent leave her with anyone.

iggy lovely bump! i hope you are resting young lady...you should sleep as much as you can cos you aint getting no sleep for a long while!

4ever im sure the cost of the bronze cast was more than worth it? We have got elc paint and take D's footprint and handprints every month, oh and we have a height chart to mark her progress...although she is only still in the 5th/15th percentile! She looks loads bigger in pictures that we take due to the lens. Lol at your dd smelling of {biscuit]! Also happy anniversary, same goes for you neeko

annie lovely to see you again, boo for having to go back to work but yippee for little E standing and crawling!

lbm you havent been back since the bum sex- the bottom incident, are you ok???

Right im off to the mall to buy dh some birthday pressies to take with him. He is so sad to be leaving the baby for 8 days, bless him

Speak soon xxx

I take it back, D has been amazing this morning Got so much attention at the mall, she does this cute thing where she lies on her tummy in the pram and looks over the side, that coupled with her gummy smile had everyone melting!

Also she made no noise what so ever in her car seat...this coming from the girl who used to scream the length of dubai, and then on the way home was asleep before we even left the car park

Barbie-Def sounds like teething-E used to do those gurning impressions as well-so funny to watch!. They seem to be in more pain when the teeth are actually moving to the surface, and once they break through the pain seems to go.
They do seem to want to suck more when they are teething as this helps the pain, gumming down on hard things can help-try letting her bite on large chunks of carrot straight from the fridge, i bought a feeding net thingy (sorry cant do links as useless!)and used to put ice cubes and hard vegetables and E used to sit and gum them for ages, perfectly safe as holes are too small for particles of food to get through and choke them.
The Nelsons teething granulles are good,thing Sabs mentioned those.

Love to all, gotta dash.....

Thanks annie We have so many teething rings its a joke! We have ones which you put into the fridge so it's nice and cool, she loves that one. Did E's tooth come through quite soon after the gurning started???
Dh even bought her a glo worm yesterday, bless him. He thought the lullaby's and light would help her to forget the pain. Instead she is just sucking the face off it
I cant get hold of the granules so we are using gel. I will ask mil to bring some out on her next visit in 2 weeks. Thanks for all your advice girls

Hi ladies, I have a few mins to get on! Makes me so sad not to be able to reply when I'm reading on my phone (cos it just takes too long and phone usually crashes as I try to post a long thing I've written!!)

But hello

Things are good with us. Jude is one month old he is absolutely delightful and I'm hoping he stays that way! He's just started cooing in the last few days and dh and I just melt at every sound. He's also proper smiling and yesterday I swear he giggled in one of his milk dozes after coming off boob
He has lovely content awake times now just smiling and looking around. Dh and I have lost many an evening to just staring at him and congratulating ourselves on how cute he is

We've been away this weekend at BIL's wedding. I remember last year saying on here how much I wanted to have a lo for this wedding & I can't believe itreally happened. I was so proud showing him off to all the family & he was beautifully behaved. My boobs and downstairs also nearly fully healed so we are getting there!

MLS, neeko, Vjay and others on hols...hope you're having lovely times! Happy birthday to MLS and neeko too!

louey boo to body confusing you hope it resolves soon (with a BFP!)

barbie sounds good so far wth the controlled crying, keep it up!

iggy I can't believe you only have 2 weeks! is your bag all packed? Sounds random but one of the best things we packed was a tip from NCT teacher- bendy straws. Meant I could drink without having to sit up etc during labour, dh just held out the cup to me wherever!
I'd packed loads of energy tablets and drinks intending to consume them during labour but I didn't have a second to think about them...dh ended up drinking the red bull to stay awake
We have about 3 newborn hats for Jude he hasn't worn at all; so pointless! What he does need now is a sunhat...

monkey so glad you're on hols now and can relax. Feet up! I've seen The Blind Side, v good. I miss the cinema! Next Monday is my first evening away from Jude, going to see Eclipse with my book group friends. V excited but apprehensive too!

Hope QA, choccie and all others MIA are ok.

Hi everyone, sorry I have been so crap at being here lately. Hope you are all ok.

Just a quick update. I am late for my aunt flo again, BUT since last time was so confusing I am not going to put any stock into that. I have ordered some 1st response tests again today from ebay. They should be here tomorrow I hope. I plan to meet up with some old friends of mine (one of which hijacked this thread to talk to me while I was having my ectopic in feb if you remember her!) and have some drinks at the weekend, so I must make sure I am not preggars. My boobs really hurt, BUT that seems to happen before my aunt flo anyways... plus I didn't make a huge go of 'getting pregnant' last month, but things did occur.. if you know what I mean. Soooo we'll see. Will keep you posted on this, I promise!!!

I made loads of gooey chocolate brownies, so help yourselves! XXX

Yummy! Hi pfj

I wont get too excited for you, i promise ....

Morning!

barbie how is teething barbiegirl today??? Sounds like she is getting the hang of controlled crying quickly. Poor you being on you own for 8 days. I complain when I have to deal with DTs for more than a couple of days on my own (but then they are a right handful ). Still no AF here. Can't believe you had a cycle that lasted that long . Did you go to the Drs?? I could understand it more if it had happened immediately after the mc, but as I had one cycle that was normal length I assumed things had gone back to normal. Clearly I was deluded.

iggy you do realise that if you stay away from MN for any length of time that we are all going to think you have gone into labour... Hope you are having a lovely maternity leave and are managing to fit in a few daytime naps.

blue I'm glad going back to work has gone ok. I agree, 6 months is a wonderful age. I have very fond memories of my two at that age, they were such happy children who stayed where they were when I put them down and slept through the night. Now they have attitudes and run away at any opportunity. I love babies (and now I'm making myself even more broody gaah!)

cupcake wow 1 month old already! Happy birthday to Jude! Glad you had a good time at the wedding and that things are healing up well now. Good for you for getting out - it is always a bit nervewracking the first time, but J will be fine and you will be fine. It does get much easier x

Annie hope you have a lovely last couple of weeks of maternity leave. Well done to E for cruising. Did I see from FB that you've been back to the gym as well (or have I got you confused with someone else)

neeko belated happy birthday and happy anniversary for yesterday. Hope you are having a lovely holiday x

4ever hope you have a lovely anniversary with DH today and enjoy your meal out tonight

PFJ thanks for the chocolate brownies, I'm suffering with a cold so they will go down nicely . Am trying not to get too excited for you so here's a but hope the tests arrive tomorrow and you get a bfp xx

CD31, damn period . Have a cold and want to get back to normal and go for a run but can't because I can't breathe. I'm currently trying to sort out the latest therapies for Isaac - NHS occupational therapy is a total disaster so we are now paying to go private at £70 a session . She'd better be good!

Hi everyone - I've been a bit awol as well. Quick update in between work.

Baby Buzz is still going strong but I now think is much younger than I orginally thought. We've been caring for him/her for about ten days now - and still no real sign of flying although tail feathers do seem to be gowing in a bit. We had started going out on night drives for road kill but our neighbour stepped in and asked a friend of hers to shoot rabbits for us, which has been a big help. I can hear him calling for food now ... and I've run out so may have to go buy some chicken quickly.

AFM - just finished ovulation which was a miserable event. DH and I fell-out big time, such bad timing, and although we managed to DTD it wasn't as often as I'd have hoped so I am worried we've missed the boat and feeling very . It's awful really. I'm still not feeling OK about the falling-out.

I have test results waiting for me at the GP (LH, FSH and E2) - must be over ten days since I did the tests so they must be there - but I am too scared to pick them up. Feeling very fragile and not sure if I can handle any more bad news or stress.

louey where is your af???? Yes i went to the doctors about three bloody times grrrr, finally sent for a scan and they said there was no reason for af to be missing i gave up worrying for a month or so and when we finally moved to dubai and i got the magic little plastic card (bupa medical insurance card) i went private, lots of scans, nice doctors and talk of clomid if af didnt show. Made appointment for 3 months time from arriving to discuss plan of attack..went back for that appointment 5 weeks pregnant

Apparently after mc you cant count af back to normal until you have 3 regular cycles....

Dh trip has been delayed by 2 days Im sure ill be ok, it will be better to do the sleep training, no fear of waking him up!

D is cute as ever, the whole of waitrose came to a stand still while all the checkout girls coo'ed over her

Awake every 2 hours last night, even though she went down with no crying She just wants feeding, although come 3.30am this morning i just let her cry back to sleep (after checking her of course!)

I cant believe you have to pay 70 quid a session for Isaac like you said, she'd better be good!

chocciechip here is my hand if you need it, im here all day and will keep you company if you decide to get your results, Im thinking of you and your baby buzz.

As for falling out with dh it only takes once so you might still be in with a chance. I remember crying and arguing with dh because i had the all too precious + on the opk but he wouldnt perform on demand ...the thing was it was the only + i had ever had after my mc, it meant so so so much to me. I really hated him for that! on the plus side (louey this might interest you) i feel pregnant the next month without getting any + or even having ANY real periods since the mmc 8 months previous

Thanks barbie, your kindness nearly made me cry. I think I might have to pick up the tests so I have them, but don't have to talk to anyone on the phone. I'm so resentful with my DH at the moment. He really is a GOOD GOOD man, but all the pressure of TTC has been on ME for well over a year .. and everyday its about getting to OV time, and every day is planning to get everything lined up. He was with me throughout the MCs and very kind (albeit moments when he put his self-centred family first ... but.... another story...)

So - like you say - when SWI didn't happen on ov day it just about made me crazy. I think DH got a bit of a shock. Last night he asked to talk to me (unheard of him to initiate communication) about what had happened. I listed everything I am doing - temping, vits 3x a day, herbs 3 different times a day, nutritious meals 3x a day, researching etc etc. And I listed all the invasive stuff I've endured through two MCs, and then asked him to do the same for his side of the experience. Silence. I sort of told him he needed to be more involved and take up some of the strain or I'd break.

Thing is, it isn't an empty threat. On the infamous night in question I was so crazy crying that I needed to get out the house and away from him and ended up going for a freezing walk at 3.30am on unlit country roads. I am scared of the dark and scared of rapists/murderers etc, but I just didn't care I needed to get out so badly. I think DH couldn't believe it the way I snapped. I hope DH has some understanding now, but am not sure I've finished saying what I need to say to him......

Anyway ... my baby buzz has become a bit of a metaphor for the babies I lost and want and the sweet ugly little raptor has become such a welcome distraction in my life.

I might pick up test results when I go get him/her some chicken ...... not sure I can look at them though. x

choccie you poor love. The reality is that men really don't understand what many women have to go through to get pg, partly because we often shield them from it for quite a while until it gets too much. They just find it very hard to comprehend, let alone provide support. That is the reason that so many of us end up over here. I remember being fuming with DH on several occasions because he didn't want to perform on a crucial day. You have had a lot to deal with - TTC for a year and going through 2 MCs would take its toll on anyone. Go and get your results and come back and we'll hold your hand and get you through it x

barbie you have Waitrose in Dubai

Well, I went to get my results, and the surgery was closed ... the practice in our area is so bad Oh well .... I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks for all the support. You ladies are wonderful. x

Bugger. just when you had psyched yourself up too. We'll still be here tomorrow though

choccie sorry i didn't get to post again yesterday. Im so sorry to hear of the stresses and strains of ttc PLease promise me you wont go for any more late night walks i understand completely the need to get away from dh, i slept in the spare room and cried myself to sleep! but walking alone at night is way too scary! I remember temping, opk's etc etc. The doctor told me conceiving is natural and shouldn't be turned into a science her advice? RELAX AND FORGET ABOUT IT! At the time i thought wtf?.... but i threw myself into decorating the villa and spending the generous relocation allowance , went out every weekend and got drunk and spent all day sat nursing hangovers and eating mac Donald's!

I also had reflexology as part of my treats to myself and i swear it helped (the therapist picked up on troubles with the fallopian tubes and womb!) If mls was here she would be screaming acupuncture at the screen as she swear by that.

I think what im trying to say is sometimes the pressure we put on ourselves doesn't help..My dh told me a few months into my pregnancy that he was scared for me as i was taking things too far he wanted the care free barbie back, the one who could have fun and not demand sex on certain days!
He also said he felt powerless after my mc, like he didn't know what to do to stop the pain i was in (writing this has my in tears, the pain never ends does it???) He said watching me curl up, holding myself and sobbing was the worse sight in the world and was so scared to ttc again in case the same thing happened, he said feeling powerless once was bad enough but no man should have to watch as their wife cry to sleep, blaming herself every night. Maybe just maybe your dh is trying to protect you? It's good that he at least opened up and talked to you...

Im sorry the doctors were closed just as you were brave enough to go and get the results. I promise im here all day and my mobile number is on the list if you want to get me online...between us we will get each and everyone of you over the finish line, I truly believe that, hence still being here 2 years down the road.

louey we have everything here! The shopping really is the best in the world, although i do miss the small, independent shops...and buy one get one free offers in supermarkets. No such thing here. It's crazy, petrol is soooo cheap. My 4x4 (forgive me environment ) takes only about 15 pound to refuel, in the uk it would cost closer to 80...Fast food is also so cheap, cheaper than eating healthy . Weekly food bill is nearly the same as the uk as long as you dont mind a few local brands as opposed to the famous ones...
There is no primark for throw away fashion or matalans for bedding and such like so things like that tend to cost more. Childrens toys tend to be imported by toys r us and elc so the mark up is huge, hence the massive 12 pound tad on the books.
Entertaining is cheaper on the whole, such a vast amount of places to go and the all inclusive brunches on fridays are a national institution!

Whoops get me im rambling.... im totally sleep deprived this morning and D has just gone back to bed but im so over tired i cant sleep...meh.

Right might wash yesterdays makeup off and get the gritty mascara out of my eyes slummy mummy strikes again!