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VJay · 04/06/2010 17:54

...thanks to all the support we get in the greenhouse

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MummyLovesSadie · 23/06/2010 13:37

Jools here is that site. Enjoy - I know I certainly did!

P.S. This is for all the small panters too.

monkeybumsmum · 23/06/2010 13:45

MLS Lucky you going to Florida - oooh I am very Have a wonderful time!

Thanks so much for all your supportive messages, it does help. You are all so lovely
Am feeling slightly brighter today, which is good, and ds has made me laugh too. I've just got him from school, and he found a dead mole on the drive which the cat had got I was trying to explain death to him, and going on about the mole sleeping forever and not waking up. He turned to me and said don't worry mummy, daddy can fix it! Just bless him. I love that he thinks his daddy can mend anything

Anyway, MLS I would be cackling too, good on the All England Tennis Club for saying that!

Iggy Hope you're enjoying ML so far. What book have you read? Hope you enjoyed it! I've just started reading the True Blood series that a friend's lent me. Have yet to make up my mind about them though!

Mermaid Sorry not got round to emailing again, but thinking of you lots. Stay strong lovely x

Better go and grab some lunch... Got the psychiatrist this arvo - am armed with questions and if she thinks I can cope with potentially another loss then ttc is probably on the cards for this month.
Have a great afternoon all xxx

iggypiggy · 23/06/2010 14:20

monkey I am enjoying it - the book was small - a dick francis one that I have read before - I like to read the same books more than once - not sure what that says about me! Your DS sounds v. cute - I remember thinking my dad knew everything when I was little

monkeybumsmum · 23/06/2010 17:14

Ooh lovely Iggy Dick Francis His are great, and it doesn't surprise me that you are reading horsey books How is your horse? Is someone looking after it for you? You must miss riding!

I've just got back from the hospital - dr said I have mild depression and wants me to go on AD's. What do I do? If I go on them then I can't start ttc for a couple of months as would need to come off them beforehand. If I don't go on them then the dr said if something goes wrong next time it would not be good at all and this 'depression' would get serious. I haven't a clue what to do. Have rung dh but he's with customers and feel like I need to tell someone and get advice please!

Joolsiam · 23/06/2010 17:51

Have been lurking from time to time, but no capacity to post - work work work !

Monkey - I had to answer you though.

I'm on AD's and TTC - have just reduced the dose after 6 months with a view to coming off them soon ...

My GP told me I didn't have to stop TTC, but they'd phase them out quite quickly if I conceived. Just do a MN search on Citalopram - you will find loads and loads of posts from people who were pregnant and continued taking that particular AD - it is pretty much known to be OK.

For me, it has worked - and you don't realise how bad things have been until the tablets gradually kick in and you start seeing life clearly again. Do take them, but ask for ones that are more TTC friendly

Glad you are enjoying mat leave Iggy

monkeybumsmum · 23/06/2010 18:31

Jools Thanks so much for the advice. I think I'll speak to my GP when I go to see her next week and see if she can give me ones that are okay for ttc. I am scared enough as it is of something going wrong, let alone taking a drug that the dr has said could cause birth defects I just don't want to risk it.
Also, I don't feel like I am depressed - did you think that too? I do find it difficult to stop crying if something upsets me, but overall I feel numb and am managing to get on with things. That doesn't sound like depression to me, but then what do I know?
Will google Citalopram, thanks again, and hope you're okay xxx

Joolsiam · 23/06/2010 18:46

Monkey - it was a light bulb moment for me when I just happened to open a MN thread by accident from active conversations and it was talking about symptoms of depression - it was like looking in a mirror, so I then googled like made, cried buckets and felt extreme relief at realising I might actually be ill and not mad ...

There is an NHS site on depression that is very good - takes you through all the symptoms etc here

chocciechip · 23/06/2010 20:14

monkey I just wanted to echo what jools has said. I've suffered from clinical depression in the past and in both my pregnancies I had terrible anxiety-like symptoms - unbearable - which ended up with me being referred to various psychiatrists and psychologists. I was told that if it happened again, and I needed to, that I COULD take medication while PG. There was never any suggestion that I should stop TTC; in fact, the whole point was to support me through trying to start a family.

Yes, there are increased risks for some drugs, but I learned that it is important that whoever speaks to you puts those risks in proper perspective. GPs tend not to do this, in my experience.

e.g. I can't remember exact numbers for the one drug I was told about, but it carried a certain % increased risk of heart defects. I was horrified of even the slightest risk of such a thing until I was gently told that woman who do not take the drugs at all, and are totally healthy, had only 1% less risk of heart defects than those taking the drugs. The point being that risks occur naturally as well but these are not talked about. So I would suggest you really ask for the numbers so you can assess the risk for yourself.

I also personally believe that anxiety and depression has an impact on ttc anyway. All to do with hormones and cortisol etc etc. I have found medical research papers comfirming this too. So in the scheme of things, it may be that the drugs are better for you while TTC than not, IYSWIM, but only you can balance all the odds.

I don't know if there is such a thing at a hospital anywhere near you, but I would also recommend trying to get referred specifically to a perinatal mental health unit. I think this is why the psychiatrist I was dealing with was so on the ball vis drugs and ttc. Maybe someone here can advise you on that and point you somewhere.

Didn't mean to rattle on for so long - this is just a very well-trodden stressful path I've had to walk myself. Hope this is some help to you. x

monkeybumsmum · 23/06/2010 20:30

Thanks for explaining that choccie. The doctor I saw today didn't say any of that, just that there was a chance of birth defects, so thank you for putting it in perspective. I feel tempted not to take the AD's tbh, but am worried about what might happen if I don't, and things go wrong again. I know I just can't take any more.
Do you have a plan for what to do when you get pg again? I get incredibly sick when pregnant, and it's something I'm worried about, although no-one so far has ever wanted to put a plan together before it actually happens. It's great that you've found a psychiatrist who can help you, it must make you feel a little better about the prospect of it happening again?
I shall have a look on our hospital website wrt the perinatal mental health unit, and will also check out your link, thank you You are lovely to have written all that out for me!

Hope everyone else is having a good evening? Have just watched Stacy giving birth in Eastenders - MLS did you see it? Had a bit of a cry (silly me) and now onto white wine and chocolate which is good

bluesatinsash · 23/06/2010 21:14

Just had mammoth catch up and its only been one day since I've been on

monkey. Really hope the lovely supportive posts choccie (so touching...) and Jools have written have given you some direction and feeling less alone... Imagine if you were you're best friend, you wouldn't be expecting her to have bounced back only a few months after having to give birth to her longed for but lost little one . You are still in the raw stages of grief and have to be kind to yourself. I really hope anti-d's help you move forward a little bit. You have such a great DH, treasure him and your DS and lean on them with all your weight to help you get through this and onto happier times. You are never far away from my thoughts..

Don't know if ayone was listening to Radio 2 today. They were talking about a health board in England not allowing the word 'angels' to be printed on a compassion pack put together for parents of still born and miscarried babies for fear of upsetting aethiests who don't believe in them - x 1000! But the reason I'm saying all this is the Mum who set it up lost her baby at full term, the day before she was due to give birth two years ago. I was on my way to Tesco at the time and had to sit in car park lisetening to her story and it was heartbreaking, her pain and loss was palpable . The loss of a baby whether at 6 weeks or 40 weeks is heartbreaking and should never ever be belittled or forgotten about..

So monkey - you are doing so so well, but please take all the help and care you can, you deserve nothing less xx

4ever - thanks for sharing you BS, just amazing [smile. Made my 26 hour labour seem like two pants and he's out! Really emotional at your saying "she's alive"... but your poor fango!!

cupcake - honey forgot to hi five you last time. You sound like you have great support re: the BF. Hope the nipple heals soon and well done to getting out the house. What pram did you go for? Yes I am a pram addict!

Vjay - at your DS1. I can so pictur eyou screaming into your phone/camera bursting with proud mummy emotions!! I LOVE Jilly Cooper and have read all the Rupert Campbell-Black ones bar the last one I think . Rivals is my favourite sooo much shagging .

Neeks - not long til DH is off on hols .

MLS - lol at your DH getting wined and dined but missing footie - well he is Scottish though so probably doesn't give a hoot! My sister is off down to court no. 1 on Sat... Ben didn't need anything from doc other than eye drops. He just had a wee cold. Fingers crossed no sign of pox so BF immunity must have passed over - yay!

Barbie - just want to cart you off to bed - not with me obviously but with hot chocolate. Have you tried th enumber one tip of trying to space D's feeds out to 4-hourly between 7am and 7pm? The theory is that they then take more at each feed and need less during the night... Do you feed her somewhere quiet during the day or is she easily distracted and comes off boob?

LBM - you are so right Pampers so pong of urine after the event but huggies have always leaked for me. funny my SIL has opposite problem, pampers always leak for her. Must be something in the wrist action of doing them up!

IggY - hope you're enjoying every minute of your pre-baby ML. Savour it, paint your nails, read magazines, watch films, sleep, sleep, sleep

Jools - hope you've not disappeared into MLS's web link!

sabs and curly - at you and your girls meeting up! Bet you were all over talking and breathless to begin with!

All good here. Gorgeous weather so been out in garden every day since we got back from Aviemore. DH is off until Monday . It was DS1 'graduation' from playgroup this morning, not a dry eye in the hall! Off to pre-school in August - (we do pre-school at 4 then school at 5 up here in jockland...)

Oh and my utterly delicious Benjamin is 6 months old today . Still up once a night for milk but weaning going well and going to up the ante next week - or savoury week as it will be - sweet potato and turnip here we come - walls be afraid, be very afriad.

MummyLovesSadie · 23/06/2010 21:19

Yes Monkey I did see it & I actually thought there is no way a first birth would be that quick & I had to have a little lol at her girly five minute faint after the birth! I'm really glad Choccie & Jools have been here to answer your questions, this thread is ace!

MummyLovesSadie · 23/06/2010 21:28

X post Blue, I hope you have your marigolds & spray-on Dettol at the ready! Love those graduation pics you posted on fb.

VJay · 23/06/2010 21:30

Wow you chatty lot

monkey big big hugs to you, for what it's worth I think you are amazingly strong and brave, and not in the least suprised that you are feeling how you are feeling. When you get your bfp I really hope we can help and support you. As for AD's, the only experience re TTC I've got is my sister, she was taikng St Johns Wart and just stopped it once she found out she was pg. As the doctor said that you are mildly depressed have you thought about St Johns Wart, I have taken it before and found it helpful. Another big hug to you {{{monkey}}}

While I'm hugging, here's another for mermaid {{{mermaid}}}, hope you are well, I've been thinkging of you.

mls I have been thinking of you today too as you'd not been on for a while, good to 'see' you [smile}

barbie hope you are sleeping as I type

blue at ds1's graduation, I bet he looked so grown up to you today, pre-school here he comes. My ds1 goes into P3 next term, I tell you, once they start schoo time seems to accelerate . I love the Jilly books too, obviously form my previous post, Polo is my fav. The book isn't out til Septemeber I think, but I will review it.

Talking of books, monkey let me know what you think of books you're reading now, someone suggested they are good to read after the Twilight ones.

iggy hope you are really enjoying your mat leave, make the most of it now

neeko lovely to text earlier

Just waiting for dh to get home then I can do his tea and get to bed, living in the fast lane me

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VJay · 23/06/2010 21:34

mls do I miss a lot not being on facebook?

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MummyLovesSadie · 23/06/2010 21:40

Yes Vjay !

Seriously, Mermaid has put a photo album on there today which I think has made us all cry.

VJay · 23/06/2010 21:57

Oh why did it make you all cry? Maybe I should consider facebook

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bluesatinsash · 23/06/2010 22:02

You should Vjay - . you only have to be connected to friends you want and make all your photos private so only your connected friends can view them.

I'm FB chatting to mermaid just now! She's a bit drunk

MummyLovesSadie · 23/06/2010 22:06

Vjay do it NOW!

VJay · 23/06/2010 22:06

Say hi to mermaid for me

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VJay · 23/06/2010 22:07

I can't do it now, I'm off to bed remember , living in the fast lane an all

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bluesatinsash · 23/06/2010 22:09

Mermaids off to bed, Vjay's off to bed and Blue's off to bed..

MLS - GET TO BED!

VJay · 23/06/2010 22:10

, GET TO BED mls

Night my lovelies

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MummyLovesSadie · 23/06/2010 22:10

Ok, CaptnBlue.... or I just might hang around here & talk to myself!

MummyLovesSadie · 23/06/2010 22:12

Where's Moon she was always good for a late-in-the-evening-chat?

MummyLovesSadie · 23/06/2010 22:12

Dum-di-dum-di-dum......

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