Clearblue Fertility Monitor Support Group Buddies Vol 3!!

[boba82]

Jump over ladies, it appears we filled the last one!

Today's stats:

Eggsovereasy TTC#1, Cycle 14, CBFM cycle 6, age 36, UCL 27-29, CD47
Willow1218 TTC#1, Cycle ? CBFM cycle 1, age 24, UCL 30, CD 45
Taytotayto TTC#2, cycle 1, cd 35
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBFM cycle 3, age 32, ucl 31-38, CD 33
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 8, CBFM cycle 2, age 33, UCL 32, CD28
Pamsie ttc#1, cycle 12, CBFM cycle 1, age 32, UCL 28-32 CD25
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 7, CBFM cycle 2, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD23
Shaggy TTC#1, cycle 3, CBFM cycle 3, age 38, UCL29, CD19
FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 25, CBFM cycle 1, age 30, UCL 32+, CD18
vnewmummy TTC#2, CBFM cycle 3, age 41, UCL 26 -28days. CD 7
Nanny01 TTC#5 cycle 6 UCL 28 age 37 CD 7
Keziah TTC#1, cycle21, CBFM cycle 9, age 34, ucl 28-31, cd 2
Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 13, CBFM cycle 2, age 28, UCL 35, CD1
LorLa TTC#2, Cycle 7, CBFM cycle 1, age 29, ucl 26-28, CD?

Graduates:

Cyncan BFP 09/05/10
Cupc4kes BFP 08/05/10
Angelgirl BFP 08/04/10
Salander
Vikks

Evening, glad you ladies enjoyed Inception ... We liked it too but the end was a bit confusing [confusued]

AF due any day now, last month was on day 32 which i am on now so shouldnt be too long then i can get started with the CBFM.

Did a quick hpt this morning and got a crappy evap line (which did get my hopes up temporarily) but did another few tests across the day (holding pee all bloody day to make it concentrated) and nothing, nada Anyway just a few days now and i can start on day one again.

Rach879 Im just starting out on the CBFM this coming cycle (in just a few days) so i guess anything you dont understand from the book you can just read back on this thread a few pages or ask someone, i found the booklet pretty good although im a bit confused about the time thing, im sure it will all come together soon enough - good luck with starting it though, this thread is a lovely one with lovely friendly ladies So you have definately come to the right place.

Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 13, CBFM cycle 2, age 28, UCL 35, CD82
Pamsie ttc#1, cycle 13, CBFM cycle 3, age 32, UCL 28-32 CD72
FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 26, CBFM cycle 2, age 30, UCL 28-29, CD35
Rosieposey TTC#5 cycle 9 CBFM cycle 1, age 38, UCL 29-33 CD 33
PinkCustard TTC#2 Cycle7 CBFM Cycle2 age 33 UCL 30-35 CD 26
Keziah TTC#1, cycle23, CBFM cycle 11, age 34, ucl 28-31, CD 26
Starlet22 TTC#1; cycle 11; CBFM cycle 5; age 33; ucl 25; CD20
Harry2007, TTC#2, Cycle 3, CBFM cycle 3, age 28, ucl 29-31, CD19
Stormbird TTC #1, Cycle #2, CBFM Cycle #2, age 27, UCL 28 CD18
Ses, TTC#2, Cycle 1, CBFM cycle 3, age 37, UCL 30-34, CD13
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 6, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD8
chocciechip TTC#1, cycle 5, CBFM cycle 5, age 39, UCL29, CD6
vnewmummy TTC#2, CBFM cycle 5, age 41, UCL 26 -28days, CD 6
ljg72 TTC3# cycle3 CBFM 2 age 38 ucl 28-30 CD6
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 5, age 33, UCL 32, CD6
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBFM cycle 4, age 33, ucl 31-38, CD 2

Morning all, how is everyone today?

Rosie sorry about your BFN

Welcome Rache879, how long have you been trying to conceive (TTC)? I would really recommend reading the wee instruction booklet that came with the Clearblue Fertility Monitor (CBFM) as it explains everything pretty well. I'm sure everyone here will agree it is quite useful in following your cycles and making sure you're shag*$ng with intent (SWI) at the right times.

Post your stats and we can add you to the list. We post the following: Name, what child you are trying to conceive (ie no1, no2 etc); what cycle no you are on (eg if you've been trying 11 months it would usually be cycle 11); how many cycles you've been using the CBFM; your age, your usual cycle length and what day of your cycle you're on.

Rachel879 TTC#?; Cycle ?; CBFM cycle ?; age ??; UCL ??; CD ??

Sorry for the mammoth post!

Hi everyone, thank you for the lovely messages, I feel welcome already.

Me and my partner have been TTC our first baby for 6 months now.

My cycles have been all over the place. I had a let down this month as I was 5 days late with lots of symptoms and then the dreaded happened. Feel ok, sad but ok. I think this monitor will really help me to chart as I have no idea what is going on down there!!

Hi Everyone...wondering if I can join your group... TTC#2. DD was conceived using the monitor, just bought another one to try again. We have been trying for 3 cycles and this is my first cycle (day 7) with the new monitor. I thought it would be nice to have others to talk about this with... Thanks!!

here's my stats...

Jenni4 TTC#2, cycle 4, CBFM cycle1, age 36, UCL 26, CD 7

Welcome Rach879 and Jenni4.

Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 13, CBFM cycle 2, age 28, UCL 35, CD82
Pamsie ttc#1, cycle 13, CBFM cycle 3, age 32, UCL 28-32 CD72
FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 26, CBFM cycle 2, age 30, UCL 28-29, CD35
Rosieposey TTC#5 cycle 9 CBFM cycle 1, age 38, UCL 29-33 CD 33
PinkCustard TTC#2 Cycle7 CBFM Cycle2 age 33 UCL 30-35 CD 26
Keziah TTC#1, cycle23, CBFM cycle 11, age 34, ucl 28-31, CD 26
Starlet22 TTC#1; cycle 11; CBFM cycle 5; age 33; ucl 25; CD20
Harry2007, TTC#2, Cycle 3, CBFM cycle 3, age 28, ucl 29-31, CD19
Stormbird TTC #1, Cycle #2, CBFM Cycle #2, age 27, UCL 28 CD18
Ses, TTC#2, Cycle 1, CBFM cycle 3, age 37, UCL 30-34, CD13
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 6, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD8
Jenni4 TTC#2, cycle 4, CBFM cycle1, age 36, UCL 26, CD 7
chocciechip TTC#1, cycle 5, CBFM cycle 5, age 39, UCL29, CD6
vnewmummy TTC#2, CBFM cycle 5, age 41, UCL 26 -28days, CD 6
ljg72 TTC3# cycle3 CBFM 2 age 38 ucl 28-30 CD6
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 5, age 33, UCL 32, CD6
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBFM cycle 4, age 33, ucl 31-38, CD 2

I have added your stats, Jenni4, ready for updating tomorrow.

I thought Inception was fantastic. However, it made me go a bit funny on Saturday night as I had quite broken sleep so everytime I woke, I kept thinking, "is this a dream?". I don't want to give too much away . DH thought I was mad/being silly.

Start POAS tomorrow. Hoping that this'll be the one. If AF arrives then, we'll be going back to the GP for a referral but haven't decided if that referral will be NHS or private or both[?].

Good luck for your appointment tomorrow, Boba. It'll be such a relief when the DR's start taking action.

How is everyone else doing? I've been away this weekend so I haven't had a chance to catch up with the older posts. Hope everyone is well. Is anyone testing soon? We could use a BFP on here to gee us up.

Thanks Lychees, that's so funny you saying that about Inception, I keep thinking about it too, you never know I suppose. . .

FX for you this cycle hun x x

Swinging by to say good luck to boba for her appointment tomorrow. Looking forward to hearing how it went and what they did, an hoping its all positive for you.

Welcome Rach and Jenni.

lychees I think I am probably starting to POAS tomorrow as well.

rosie evaporation lines.... aaaargh!! Had one of those once and it cured me of early testing! My worst was last cycle though, when I accidentally grabbed an OPK instead of an HPT which gave me a clear positive result. (One of them came free with a PG test I bought and I forgot it was an OPK because I never buy them, having the trusty CBFM). I spent the whole day thinking I was PG before reality dawned , and since then have been wondering every day how the hell I got an LH surge the day AF was due and if there is something properly wrong with me!! My poor DH who was just devastated when I had to tell him how stupid I'd been.

babyhoping I am feeling far too well aquainted with those horrible lows myself. I think each month that goes by with a BFN takes my mood down with it a little bit more.

You know what I wish....? I wish some miracle would happen and every single one of us would get PG this month and go forwards on the rest of the journey together.

I'm just pasting stats again because I need to amend mine a bit.

Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 13, CBFM cycle 2, age 28, UCL 35, CD82
Pamsie ttc#1, cycle 13, CBFM cycle 3, age 32, UCL 28-32 CD72
FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 26, CBFM cycle 2, age 30, UCL 28-29, CD35
Rosieposey TTC#5 cycle 9 CBFM cycle 1, age 38, UCL 29-33 CD 33
PinkCustard TTC#2 Cycle7 CBFM Cycle2 age 33 UCL 30-35 CD 26
Keziah TTC#1, cycle23, CBFM cycle 11, age 34, ucl 28-31, CD 26
Starlet22 TTC#1; cycle 11; CBFM cycle 5; age 33; ucl 25; CD20
Harry2007, TTC#2, Cycle 3, CBFM cycle 3, age 28, ucl 29-31, CD19
Stormbird TTC #1, Cycle #2, CBFM Cycle #2, age 27, UCL 28 CD18
Ses, TTC#2, Cycle 1, CBFM cycle 3, age 37, UCL 30-34, CD13
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 6, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD8
Jenni4 TTC#2, cycle 4, CBFM cycle1, age 36, UCL 26, CD 7
chocciechip TTC#1, cycle 6, CBFM cycle 6, age 39, UCL29, CD7
vnewmummy TTC#2, CBFM cycle 5, age 41, UCL 26 -28days, CD 6
ljg72 TTC3# cycle3 CBFM 2 age 38 ucl 28-30 CD6
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 5, age 33, UCL 32, CD6
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBFM cycle 4, age 33, ucl 31-38, CD 2

Aw Chocciechip thats bloody awful I have done something similar with OPK's too as they look just like my HPT'S from the internet.

I was so laid back about getting pg with my son and just thought it would happen when it happened and the only reason i tested (it was 4 days early too) was that i had agonising boobs and i only ever get sore boobs when i am pg.

That evap line yesterday was with FMU and it came up within the 10 mins too, DH and DD1 both agreed it was a positive, you can still see it today but its a faded grey colour now and the lack of any bfp's today or yesterday confirmed for me that it was an evap (did a First Response yesterday and that was neg too, and i tend to think they are pretty bombproof in terms of accuracy.

Next month i would like to just forget about it but i know after ovulation i will be counting the 14 days down again - still at least will have the CBFM to keep me amused.

I am thinking of charting in tandem as well, does anyone on here who charts know the best place to get a basal thermometer? Also the fact that i get up in the middle of the night for a wee, is that a problem?

Hope all goes well for you Boba on Wed.

Lychees I don't know where you are but in England if you already have one child then you cannot get any referral on the NHS. If you don't have one and have been ttc for more than 1yr and are under 35 you can get gp testing and then referral, or if over 35 aftre 6mths ttc. This is what I have found. Also before you get the referral or apt with fertility dr, there are lots of basic tests the gp can arrange for you - general blood tests, up to date smear, chlymdia test etc all of which are needed by a fertility clinic. I don't know how all gp's work, but mine wanted basic testing first, to see if low thyroid etc, before referral - so know where to refer to.

I go to see dr at fertility clinic at hospital for 3rd time on thursday.

rosie If its a grey line, its an evaporation line. Any other line that is a pale colour is a BFP - or so I was told. I bought my BBT thermometer on Amazon and I chart on fertility friend. If you join us on the charters anonymous thread, we all share our charts and discuss them there. This cycle, because of what happened in my last, I am using OPKs throughout on top of CBFM and charting to see when I get positive lines ... bothered that my LH levels are not right. I've always wondered how the CBFM works if your body tries to ovulate, and you get an LH surge, but then don't ovulate. It won't pick up a second surge, would it?

Choccie Does it stop asking you to test once you have ovulated then?

Funny thing was it didnt seem grey at the time, but got greyer as the day went on - i thought it was because it was drying. Anyway its still visible but ive bunged it in the bin along with all the other tests, have two hpt's left so will wait a couple of days and if no AF will try again with FMU not holding out any hope though - i dont feel pg at all.

Going to get a BBT thermometer, will have to get one pretty sharpish though as i dont think AF can be too far away.

Morning everyone,

Welcome to Rach and Jenni! Rach, as Boba says, the booklet is very informative. The thing I found slightly confusing was setting the "m" button - but after you've done it once, it all makes sense. Just post any queries that you may have.

Choccie you sound a bit more bouncy in your last postings - hope you are feeling more optimistic!

Storm - sorry I haven't emailed you yet. My hotmail account seems to have been attacked by some kind of virus - it's sending out junk emails to my contacts (although I have now deleted all contacts and it's still sending them!). I've changed my account password (apparently it's meant to stop this) so if that works, I'll be in touch later this week (don't want to risk sending you virus).

Boba - good luck for your appointment today. Let us know how it goes.

Keziah - thanks for the info re tests and good luck on Thursday. Are you going to collect results from previous tests? Hopefully they will have some good news for you and you can feel optimistic and positive about things.

We just got DH's SA results. Apparently motility is good but morphology is 11% (and 15% and above is meant to be normal). So anyway, we are off to the FC (although GP couldn't say how long the waiting list is...).

So in my state of slight panic about not getting a BFP after quite some time, I have ordered a couple of books from Amazon. The first is called "Taking Charge of Your Fertility". Some of you may have read it already but for those who haven't, it's proving to be an enlightening read so far! Anyway, it's inspired me to get more serious about charting (I have a terrible tendency of waking up and either forgetting to take my temperature or else going for a wee and then thinking "pants, that will mess up the results!"). So as of this week, I've been a bit better at it and will continue to chart so I have something else to take along to the FC with me.

Sorry this is a bit of a ramble. Hi to everyone I haven't mentioned specifically. FX for a BFP on here soon! X

Hi Everyone! I'm a little bored today so I thought I'd post something!! Today is day 8 and DH left today for 4 days. Looks like this month might be a bust... I'm still reading low and I hope I don't peak while he's gone...He will be back for 2 days before leaving again... Just hoping the timing is right!! I guess we'll just have to give it all we've got!! Positive thoughts for everyone!!!

Hi everyone especially all the new people

Starlet I've heard lots of good things about that book and have been wondering whether to get a copy, you'll have to let us know if it's worth a read once you've finished it.

Well I've been having real trouble sleeping this week - I'll be really tired so go to bed early but then be lying awake for ages, and then I've been waking up around 2am-3am and then not being able to get back to sleep for AGES. Very annoying. I know it's silly but I found myself googling it as an early preg symptom and it did come up, but I think I can make anything into an early preg symptom if I try hard enough

Rosieposey fingers crossed that AF doesn't show up and you get a BFP in a few days, maybe you just tested a bit too early?

Today's stats:

Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 13, CBFM cycle 2, age 28, UCL 35, CD83
Pamsie ttc#1, cycle 13, CBFM cycle 3, age 32, UCL 28-32 CD73
FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 26, CBFM cycle 2, age 30, UCL 28-29, CD36
Rosieposey TTC#5 cycle 9 CBFM cycle 1, age 38, UCL 29-33 CD 34
PinkCustard TTC#2 Cycle7 CBFM Cycle2 age 33 UCL 30-35 CD 27
Keziah TTC#1, cycle23, CBFM cycle 11, age 34, ucl 28-31, CD 27
Starlet22 TTC#1; cycle 11; CBFM cycle 5; age 33; ucl 25; CD21
Harry2007, TTC#2, Cycle 3, CBFM cycle 3, age 28, ucl 29-31, CD20
Stormbird TTC #1, Cycle #2, CBFM Cycle #2, age 27, UCL 28 CD19
Ses, TTC#2, Cycle 1, CBFM cycle 3, age 37, UCL 30-34, CD14
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 6, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD9
Jenni4 TTC#2, cycle 4, CBFM cycle1, age 36, UCL 26, CD 8
chocciechip TTC#1, cycle 6, CBFM cycle 6, age 39, UCL29, CD8
vnewmummy TTC#2, CBFM cycle 5, age 41, UCL 26 -28days, CD 7
ljg72 TTC3# cycle3 CBFM 2 age 38 ucl 28-30 CD7
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 5, age 33, UCL 32, CD7
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBFM cycle 4, age 33, ucl 31-38, CD 3

Hi Jenni sounds like you might time the window of opportunity just right!

I wasn't sure when CD1 was for me with this cycle, because I had spotting, then light flow in the afternoon the next day, and only on the next day did AF quick in properly. I decide CD1 was light flow day - which makes today CD8 and the first day the CBFM asks me to POAS.

I went straight to a high - no lows. Anyone else had this this early?

boba Hope it all went well today. keziah thinking of you for tomorrow hun!

pinkcustard I also have a copy of TCOYF and recommend it highly.

rosie Its not over until AF arrives. Fingers crossed!

Starlet - whilst you wait to go to the hospital, why not ask for a 2nd SA to be done in say 4-8wks time, your gp can order it and you can have it done and results done before you go to the hospital. This is what they will do and it will save some time! My dh has poor motility and morphology - he has had 3 tests done over 9mths, with some different results!!

Thanks for wishes for tomorrow - am feeling more positive than I have done for ages. TTC has got me so low, especially knowing there are probs with us both!

Hi ladies,

I feel soooooo guilty for announcing my return to the thread and then not posting for ages! BUT have had a few problems, well actually, big problems. I've been back in hospital with severe pain on my left side ( the side that has no Fallopian tube) so ended up back in hospital. I've had more internals and internal scans than most women have in a lifetime and now the doctor thinks there may be a problem with the ovary on the left side (the ovary was left in during the op). So now awaiting the results...

Hi to all the newbies [Harry waves hi]

Xxx

p.s. Apologies for the selfishness of this post!

Oh Harry, so sorry to hear that problem - does it mean the side with the fallopian tube's ovary is ok? Are you able to ttc, or on hold until results are in?

I am on holiday for next two weeks so will not be online much, if at all, but am expeting AF (and know no bfp as was in hospital and no bd/swi!) in coming days. Hope to see lots of positive new when I return

Today's stats:

Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 13, CBFM cycle 2, age 28, UCL 35, CD79
Pamsie ttc#1, cycle 13, CBFM cycle 3, age 32, UCL 28-32 CD73
FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 26, CBFM cycle 2, age 30, UCL 28-29, CD36
Rosieposey TTC#5 cycle 9 CBFM cycle 1, age 38, UCL 29-33 CD 34
PinkCustard TTC#2 Cycle7 CBFM Cycle2 age 33 UCL 30-35 CD 27
Keziah TTC#1, cycle23, CBFM cycle 11, age 34, ucl 28-31, CD 27
Starlet22 TTC#1; cycle 11; CBFM cycle 5; age 33; ucl 25; CD21
Harry2007, TTC#2, Cycle 3, CBFM cycle 3, age 28, ucl 29-31, CD20
Stormbird TTC #1, Cycle #2, CBFM Cycle #2, age 27, UCL 28 CD19
Ses, TTC#2, Cycle 1, CBFM cycle 3, age 37, UCL 30-34, CD14
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 6, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD9
Jenni4 TTC#2, cycle 4, CBFM cycle1, age 36, UCL 26, CD 8
chocciechip TTC#1, cycle 6, CBFM cycle 6, age 39, UCL29, CD8
vnewmummy TTC#2, CBFM cycle 5, age 41, UCL 26 -28days, CD 7
ljg72 TTC3# cycle3 CBFM 2 age 38 ucl 28-30 CD7
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 5, age 33, UCL 32, CD7
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBFM cycle 4, age 33, ucl 31-38, CD 3

Have updated stats as I was on wrong day.

Firstly sorry to hear your news Harry, you're not being selfish at all hun, you've really been through the wars haven't you? Hope you're back to full health very soon.

Thanks to everyone for all the good luck wishes.

Had quite lengthy appointment with Mr Irvine at ERI fertility clinic today. Good news is DH has been given the all clear. Starlet this may be of interest to you but DH had 2 SA and both showed low morphology (7%). However was told today that they no longer consider this a problem as 15% is as good as you can get and they have loads of new research. The original comparison data is based on WHO data and they know know SA varies region to region so a 'normal' SA in Edinburgh will vary from that of Copenhagen for example. Thought it was v. interesting so do not worry too much over your SA results.

He agreed I am obv not ovulating. Had internal exam & bloods done. They will track hormonal changes via urine samples over 10 weeks and have booked me for an HSG and an ultrasound. Due to my holiday in 8 weeks time I am not going back for 5 months which is bang in middle of xmas so my next appt is 7th Jan which feels an age away

Unfortunately he will not prescribe me anything to start my period or Clomid etc until he's got a diagnosis so I have been wee bit upset/frustrated this pm as a result. Feel v. fed up at moment - men just do not understand how crappy you feel when you've not had a period for nearly 3 months!

All in all I found it a good experience and hopefully once diagnosed it will not take long to get things on track. Just seems so far away . . .

Sorry for the mammoth post

choccie that has happened to me but don't think I am a very good example at the moment!

Good luck for tomorrow, Keziah.

Harry, sorry that you're having further problems. FX that everything is okay.

Hope you get your peaks at just the right time, Jenni4.

Starlet, your hubby's results may just be a one-off so itprobably is a good idea to have a second SA done as suggested by Keziah.

I ordered some Preseed last night. I thought it was worth giving it a shot this last chance before referral. This cycle, I'm hoping to get some warning before my peak. I have gone straight from lows to peaks recently. However, we were planning on doing it "the old-fashioned" way this cycle in conjunction with the CBFM so hopefully the lack of highs before the peak won't be an issue.

Hi everyone else!

P.S. good luck for tomorrow Keziah x

Hi everyone,

JeeeeeeWhizz.....so much has been going on!!

Hello to any new people

Keziah Good Luck with your appointment.

Harry Sorry to hear your having further problems. I hope you get well soon hunny.

Starlet Don't worry about not emailing. Whenever you can would be great hun. There's no rush. Oooh and let me know what that book is like. FX everything is ok.

Boba Good news about DH's SA. Now you and the docs can concentrate on YOU. I know 5 months seems a long time but I'm sure that January will be here before you know it. Chin up poppet. xx

Rosieposie I hope this is your month hun....C'mon the BFP!!

To everyone else Hope your all doing ok.

5DPO for me.......nothing to report really. Just the usual, tired, moody, gassy (TMI sorry), can't stop weeing etc. But I have developed a very random incredibly dry thoat and tongue??? V. Strange. Doubt its a symptom though!

I've been charting and Temps are looking good so far.

I hope someone gets BFP soon

Babydust to all

XXXX

Boba - try not to worry, your post tells me you got an excellent first appointment. Yes you have 5mths till you go again, but when you go back you will be at the same stage I am tomorrow and it has taken me EIGHT months to get to that stage. They quite rightly don't give clomid out without a diagnosis, I now realise, as it could be dangerous if anyting wrong. Try not to be annoyed - I have never been offered 10 weeks of urine sample testing, had a physical exam by a doctor and it sounds like you got all tests ordered, and they do take time to have, sadly. BUT sounds like you can get treated when go again. It took me 3 appointmetns of 10-20mins each time to get as far as you did in 1 appointment - so hope you can feel a bit encouraged (well, worse case was got no bloods done then and no exam, not got all tests ordered etc, which is what I and others I know have gone through!) Hope tests go ok.

Right, must pack for holiday - typical go to see another random junior dr doing placement in fertiltiy clinic at hospital the day I am on holiday