TTC after a Miscarriage - Keep Trying!!!!

[Diddle]

Well ladies, its about time we had a new thread, the old one is getting very long. Plus I think we need another fresh start, with lots of positive babydust:

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Get a big handful girls, i think we all need it.
I was trying to think of something great and positive to put, but this TTC lark is getting us all down, i'm fed up of trying, but we will all succeed eventually, our times will come.

It will be much better for our little ones to have a good start when our bodies are truly ready to carry them.

hi ladies,

Happy Anniversary HC, have a nice relaxing evening

Sounds like we're all oving at the same time this week, although we all have different cycle lengths, anyone got a long cycle like me, 35 days???

Missed lost, but wish i hadn't really wanted to see it, what time was it on. Like the look of the lead blokey, can't remember his name, something fox, he was in "party of five" on a long time ago.

maddyd - how you feeling now?? i'm going to keep asking you.

HC - don't see much point in testing, when OPK's, saliva microscope thing, and charting all agree that I didn't OV. I'm just putting it down to being a crazy cycle all round which is best over and done with. All I can do is hope that it's a one off and things will get back to normal next time.

Poor you Lunar nine years of ttcing. How on earh do you get through each month. Are you on medication or ivf too. Sorry i cant remenber did you have Ds sucessfully? It was clear, and i dont want to upset if you didnt carry full term? XXXXXXX

Diddle im not doing too bad ta. Scan date still not through but its fine aslong as i avoid food Lost was good but i cant really stay awake that late. Im a lightwieght. Big Brother was better.
Good on Eugine for taking the money and they are hypacrites for saying they wouldnt. Come on, your handed 50,000 for nothing. Who would say no. I think Eugine would have said no if he knew the money would have doubled. Hey ho hope he wins now to pee them all off. [evil grin, eviller than the mn one]

nicmum2boys. I do the opk tsts too. They are a strong line just before ov and then it will tail off. If you have no lines you havnt ov;d yet or you have and youve miised it. Thats why they give you 5 i think to do over your predicted fertile time. I got a pink line on day 9 which means i would ov that or the next day. Today the line is alot fainter so im guessing i have ovulated. Very early though im only on day 12 now. Shows all that bding over day 13,14 and 15 counted for nothing. I did get an early af last month though.

Happy Annivesary HC hope you have a love;ly evening. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH how sweet.

Lunar i meant wasnt clear iyswim

Right i will bid you all goodnight and sweetdreams. Im having an early night as Dp playing tennis and i dont want to be awake when he gets home or i may be tempted to BD, and i really dont want to fall this month or ill blame myself taking pain killers if anything went wrong. God only day 12, ages till af, ages till bding, ages till pg. Theres just so much waiting in this ttcing game xxxxx

Maddyd Glad your feeling better xx
Diddle My cycle was 33 days lasdt month and 31 month before (was always 28 before loss in april)
HC Happy Anniversary!!

I watched lost.Cant decide if i like it or not,Is it a bit like Jurrasic Park? What was that thing that grabbed pilot? Anyhow it looks like set of Jurrasic and dont think its a conventional 'stranded on a dessert island story'will have to see a few more before i decide.

Fed up of big brother,dont really like anyone but if had to decide would be kinga or eugene to win. I feel sorry for them both in different ways. Wanted Makosi out last night (big headed b*tch)aggghhhhh makes blood boilso two faced and nasty
This weekend is dh last chance to drink as hip,hip hooray its ov testing time once again coming up and lots of bding though not really in mood for it,much rather have lots and lots chocolate maybe i could smother dh in melted galaxy??

mmmmmmm,maybe not.Hes quite hairy

Blimey its 10.00 betta tune in to see whats happening

bye girlies

maddyd - yes ds is fine - he's nearly 4 now. But GP doesn't think that there's any problem, so I can't even get a referal to see anyone else, let alone any medication to help with the situation I've posted elsewhere about the trouble I have trying to get him to accept that one child in nine years is NOT a good average, and that as I'm 39 now, I don't really have another 9 years to put up with him telling me that if it can happen once it can happen again (you could probably find it if you searched).

I'm afraid that after all this time I just expect a -ve outcome all the time now. I think I've all but run out of hope.

Morning all. Just thought I'd drop back in. Been enjoying not ttc over my af time (and indulging in a few glasses of vino) But it's time to get back in the saddle so to speak! Diddle my last cycle was 35 days too, and the last proper cycle I counted was 32, so mine's on the long side as well. It's annoying cause I've got ages to wait till ov time (two weeks!) then even longer till test time. Still enjoying the bding.

Lunasea, your doctor sounds horrid and out of order. I thought you could get a referal if you'd been trying for over a year regardless of other children/pg's, is that not the case? Are there any other doctors within the practice that might be more helpful?

HC how was your anniversary evening?

Morning all,
Lunarsea- I was thinking the same thing as Strike1, is there no other Dr at the practice? Honestly, these Drs make me so cross when they say these things. You think there is a problem, he should be sending you somewhere to investigate it.

HC- hope you had a nice evening.

As for me, I'm feeling out of sorts today. My boobs really ache, especially the left one! Maybe I've overdone something!
And completely off topic, both episodes of Lost are repeated tomorrow night on Channel 4, although DH was saying it's the uncut version, so hope you all like your blood and gore!

morning all, petunia, will have to try and catch Lost really wanted to see it. wish i had skyplus, then it would just find them all for me and record them in case i forget them. might be worth investing in just for that.

Glad i'm not the only one with a long cycle. It does feel like a long wait, esp after OV and then waiting almost 20 days to test, its hell. Think thats why i go through so many tests. I start early because I love testing, but hate the results part. Have made a promise with myself that i'm only using the tests in my bathroom, which i think is 3 or 4 left and not buying anymore. so i must wait until af is late, if she is late. Won't be too dissapointed this month with my negative though, because of going to Disneyland, quite fancy being able to go on the rides. Never satisfied am I.

have a good day everyone

maddyd - not eating at all is not good you must try something, you'll waste away.

strike1 - that's supposed to be the case. I've gone through the NICE (National Institute for Clinical Excellence) guidelines to doctors - all 100+ pages of it - and it's a little vague, in that it says refer after failure to conceive, but doesn't really make it clear if that's ever, or this time round. GP seems to be interpreting it as ever, I interpret it the other way.

I'm finding it quite hard to keep reading on here about people who are younger than I am, and haven't been trying anywhere near as long, who seem to be getting referals quite easily. It just shows that there must be loads of doctors out there who don't share our GP's interpretation, yet we're still getting nowhere.

Lunasea, I really feel for you. I know how hard it is to stand up to a gp and demand a proper service. It sounds to me that you have a very strong case for referal and if your gp won't do it you should look into complaining to your local health authority. It's all hassle you could do without though and it's all easier said than done. Maybe a chat with your prevoius mid wife or maternity unit might do the trick? Good luck, in the mean time just keep on bding

I'm with you on not testing till af is due/late this month Diddle, it's too stressful starting to early. I will be strong. But it's a long wait....but all good things are

I agree with you Strike- Lunarsea, sounds like you should be referred, and I think if it were me I would definitly complain, wihtout a doubt. This is something that is really important to you, even if it isn't to your DR.

strike1 - yep, good things come to those who wait.

Lunarsea

I am shocked about your GP.DEMAND a referral.Its your right.How dare he say that there is no problem when you have been trying so long.Who so they think they are.You might just need some clomid,its done the trick for most of my friends who are all over 35. I am 38 and have only been ttc for a couple of months.If it drags on I will be INSISTING on treatment. Its hard when you this side of 35 and you feel that time is running out. In fact its not and with a bit of help from your gp you should be adding to your family very soon

xxxx

HC- Happy anniversary hun! Hope it was a good un! Sooo chuffed Mr evil moobies got kicked out hooraahh (moobies=man boobs )
How's all?
Ready to indulge in a few beers tonight whilst watching BB.
x

Evening all-thanks for all you well wishes for our anniversary. Had a lovely evening as I went out with my friend Got home at 11-30pm and DH on the computer (doing work grrrhh) until 12-00am so went to bed alone! Was too tired though and not worth the effort due to AF being due next Thursday.

Peed on a stick this morning and nothing so don't know if it is just too early-will perhaps wait until Monday and test again and if nothing again will test on Wednesday as a last resort. Not holding out much hope though.

Right, wine time and should think about getting some tea ready. Salad again as trying to lose some weight to assist with the TTC bit.

Lots of love and hugs to you all.

((xx))

Hi everyone, hope you're all having a relaxing weekend.
Think I am definately oving yesterday/today, as I've had lots of lower abdominal pain, and been feeling very keen to bd . I've resisted doing an opk as I'd rather live in blissful ignorance, and assume I am. I'll only get wound up if I do a test and I'm not. Just hope I have more of a normal cycle this month. Will be seeing the doctor if not.

Lunarsea, I can't beleive your gp won't refer you. Would it help if you and your DH went to see him together?

Dh is out tonight, so I have the telly all to myself. Going to catch up an Nip-Tuck I think, or maybe watch Lost as I missed it the other night. Diddle, I can thoroughly recommend sky+, it's fab, definately worth the money imo. It's very clever, I could for example tape Lost tonight to watch another time, tape the cricket on sky sports for DH, and watch nip-tuck from earlier in the week, all at the same time. Not sure how it works, just know it's brill!

Lunarsea I'm sure that you've thought of/ done this but just in case: put your case in writing to the senior partner at the practice; that way it should at least be a matter for discussion. Sometimes , dare I say, esp if your gp is older they just haven't moved with the times and a little friendly pressure from a respected colleague and all that may do the trick. Worth a try?

nicmum2boys - I've already tried taking dh along too, but to no avail. And sunnyside - he is the senior GP. And the others just say "you've already discussed this with doctor X haven't you" and seem to go along with him.

I'm hopefully going to see a consultant privately - info from him does say bring the referal letter from your GP, but I'm hoping I won't just get thrown out if I explain the situation, but that despite it our GP is insistent on no referal.

Lunarsea

Change doctors.Its the only way forward.Its simply unacceptable that you cannot get the treatment you require because your gp doesnt think you need it.You are entitled to a second opinion and the fact that the other gps are going along with his decision is very frustrating and totally unfair.

My friend tried for years to concieve and was given clomid by her doctor.She now has a son and has just had a little girl.She said recently that without her doctors intervention she would never have had children.(shes 37)

I wish I could come to your gp's with you lunarsea.I would tear a bloody strip off him!!

Morning ladies

How are you all? Not much happening here, weather awful so stuck inside. Keep having 'those' dreams-you know, the one where you dream that you have done a positive test then wake up and find it's not true. Sooo had to get up at 4am this morning and do one but not even an evap line today, just a boring bright pink test line. Think I will leave off testing until Thursday. Paternityangel.com say that HCG only begins secreting on the day your AF is due so what is a girl to believe?

Well, that's enough of me going on and on so will leave you in peace for a few hours.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Lots of love and hugs.

((xx))

Morning all,
something very weird going on with me this weekend.
I will warn you that there is TMI coming up

Have had a brown discharge, started yesterday, Very much like normal ewcm consistency but with a brown colour mixed in. Very weird. Not much of it, not even on wiping, but just the occassional blob in underwear.
Not sure what to think, the only time I have had this sort of stuff, is at the end of my period, and thats not normally like ewcm gone brown, and when i started my m/c's. So am i having an early m/c, very early as i'm only ov'd about 7 or 8 days ago, am i having implantation bleed, never had one, wouldn't know what it was like anyway, or is my body just totally screwed up??
Answers on a postcard please!!!

I have never had any discharge mid cycle before in my life. AF is not due for 12 days. So what the hell is going on. anyone got any ideas?

Afternoon all,
Been feeling rather off-colour the last few days. Not been sick but felt sick, and also tired but then I've not been sleeping well either! Trying to resist testing before Wednesday. Early testing never works for me, tried a test the day before AF was due with DD2, and it was -tive but +tive the next day. Must resist, must resist!

Diddle- haven't got any experience of implantation bleeding but fingers crossed for you.