Continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[rowingboat]

Hello world!

GREAT news Alba - so pleased for you my darling.

Rowing - sounds v promising - gentle but enthusiastic squeeze for you.

Hippy - you CRACK me up. Ouch on the threading, I last had that done in Mauritius - ooo lala.

Lia - had the same doom and gloom when I had 2 22 day cycles late last year between my 2 MMCs. But agree with all that have said that it needn't be a problem, and at least it DOES give more chances for potential success. This time round I have had a 26 day and now a 24 day since MMC. This is month 1 of TTC again so will be keeping an eye on it with more concern.

Am sort of gloomy about TTC again. It's actually been REALLY nice the last few months, not obsessing about dates and mucus and SWI and symptoms etc etc. Must cheer up!!!

Wave to all x

I wrote a long post earlier (while I was "working from home") but then it disappeared.

Anyway, happy birthday diege hope you have had a lovely day.

Welcome back jollster! hippy and rowing I have everything crossed for you! fab news for you too alba

Lia I am in a similar position - although my last cycle was 31 days (another chemical pg I think). dh has also put a time limit on me - til my 40th. That is saturday, so no pressure there then! He is also slightly reticent in putting out, which really pisses me off. I think I know that he would be happy to stick at 5, and is mostly doing this for me. I am trying to relax this month though....

I'm not pg for my 40th which was v disappointing - pretty sure I was too, and was very late for me at 31 days. We did the deed at the right time too. Have got a clear blue monitor thingie this month (but am being relaxed about it honest!). Dh is taking me away for my b'day to London which I am looking forward to -a bit of retail therapy and dinner with friends.

Hi all, back again,

Diege happy birthday and welcome to the old bags club, happy birthday and welcome to you and your bub (coming soon).
Obviously, we are very nice, Mulberry bags, aesthetically pleasing and deceptively capacious. Have a lovely night, take away is it?

Hairy are you still smiling about the blood test! I had long bleeds after the IVFs, it's just your body getting back to normal. You'll soon be ready to go.
The eyebrows thing, I just pluck mine with tweezers, but I never remove that many hairs, can't really imagine having them waxed or anything for the number of hairs kind of thing.
Do people not use tweezers any more? [interested face]

Hippy soz, I did mean to answer, but just ran out of time. My official, blood test date is next Friday the 4th June. However, I will test before that.

Lia I'm not sure why your cycle length has changed. I have read it is fairly common to have variations in length, but I don't suppose people notice until they TTC.
I like Hippy's take though, your body is trying to conceive by ovulating more frequently.

GPS how's Cornwall? Is you both settling a bit more? How is the job?
No, no run, was holding off just in case, have been walking quite a bit though.
I read that it can take 2-3 days for an embryo to implant so I was giving them three days plus an extra day (in case they were tired) of not over-exerting myself.

Gum hope your PMS symptoms lead to AF, that would put a smile back on your face.
It sounds like a tough time with your family, distancing yourself seems a good solution until you feel more up to dealing with the drama.

Alba great news about the scan, how sweet to see your teeny baby. I'm very impressed at your dedication, doing the do with a broken rib, good job your DH didn't have a broken leg as well, would have been very awkward.

Curly good luck for testing tomorrow. Fingers crossed for a postive.

Rainbow let the 2WW madness commence!

Jollster I just wanted to say that it is sad that your sister has been such a big part in your life and then become so withdrawn. I can see why you wish she would make up her mind. Do you think she is suffering with depression?

An update on the 'feeling strange' is that I haven't really eaten yet, just don't feel like it. I'm not sure if it is my middle ear thing, which can cause nausea or a symptom.
I have had other little symptoms, like leg cramps, which I never get and only had when I was pg with DS. I have also noticed my back is a bit sore, but that could be anything.
I have been taking progesterone until today so I could just have too much in my body from the supplementation (that's why I have stopped, to see if it continues).
Just like any symptom there could always be a perfectly reasonable explanation, couldn't there!

Jollster

Sorry, that was supposed to be a song Deige, to the tune of 'Happy Birthday' - did you see how I rhymed club with bub - cunning or what.

Hiya everyone. Just so much going on so I won't do personals.

Yes,Af is here.Hip, hip, horray! So now I can really look forward to the next lot of SWI.

I was talking to a friend this morning, she's 40, ttc her 2nd and her DH has basically said he doesn't want to ttc after August. I feel for her, it's kind of putting her under pressure.They've been trying for about a year on and off.

That got me thinking, when will I stop ttc?I'll be 44 in Nov, and wonder if I want to try beyond then. I guess I'll wait and see how I feel then.

I'm excited for you girls coming up for testing. Let's hope it is bfp's all around. It's funny I had a dream that I had a text from someone with a photo of a positive pregnancy test, unfortunately I don't know who it was from!It is obviously on my mind...

Gum yay for AF. Fantastic!
Have decided the nausea was just my old ear thingy playing up because it felt better when I took ibuprofen.
I think the cramping was due to the steroids I took around transfer to help lower my immune system. Took one last night and my cramps came back, so basically, no symptoms and just feel normal post ovulation.
Whilst feeling nauseous I did suddenly think that I didn't think I could cope with the ear and feeling nauseous, which gave me a bit of a fright.
Not feeling very positive about carrying on TTC at all, just seems a slog at the moment and not worth it.
I'll be 44 in September Gum and I have a kind of cut-off after that in my head tbh.

Rowing, have you checked with clinic on stopping progesterone? I remember when wondering if I should take it someone telling me it's essential in ivf... To do with not making enough naturally due to ivf process....?I'm sure you know the details way better than any of us but was a little worried for you and all those symptoms sound so good!

Rowing - URGENT - DO NOT STOP THE PROGESTERONE, IT CAN CAUSE M/C, a sudden reduction in progesterone is not good, you need to continue progesterone until 12 weeks in pregnancy. Also ibrufen should not be taken in pregnancy, so I am sorry you should stop taking that too. Sorry I do not want to sound bossy, but I do not want you to find this out later.

Rowing thanks for the words of encouragement.

Much less bleeding over night - hurray - and very little this morning. so I am hoping it's finally over! woot!

I'm not sure whether I count this as a cycle (it's day nine since start of bleeding) but fingers crossed for super fertility now

Hello! Thanks for my birthday song Rowing and my sash Hippy . Im feel like I officially 'belong' now
Alba meant to say yesterday many,many congrats on such a great scan. Here's to an uneventful pregnancy!
Hippy I am still very hopeful for you - do your boobs still feel like thyey're someone elses?
Polly tis not too bad crossong over the river to oldy land That's a bit pressured your dh and his time limit; have heard of a few men like that, think they just need a bit of encouragement sometimes. Fragile things, men.
Hairy, that's great news about the bleeding. Bless you, you've been through a lot and still sound so positive (as you should be!)
Rowing I do remember total lack of appetite was a symptom for me (one of the very earliest); very odd sensation indeed. Advice from others re: supplementation sounds sensible xBig waves to Rainbow,Italian, Liaghen, Gonepearshaped Gumblossom, and anyone else I've missed!
Cd 6 here and preparing dh to prepare to action towards middleof next week. Have ordered some opks off ebay,and will make sure I use them pm and not first wee this month .I amlearning a lot here - will also not dash off for wee straight after SWI!

rowing i agree about the ibuprofen. Probably best not to take that. Not sure about the progesterone - cos this wasn't like an IVF cycle (in that you ovulated yourself etc). But I do agree with rainbow that stopping progesterone suddenly can be a worry. Can you check with your clinic??

Maybe you already have and you're doing what they told you and we're just worrying - but rest assured it's only cos we care.

diege my boobs feel like rocks and my nipples itch. All good signs. test tomorrow. I had another rubbish nights sleep last night. Just lie there wide awake saying to myself - you could be pregnant and then worrying about what happened in feb.

Ho hum. might have the answer tomorrow.

linda good to hear your still lurking about.what did the guy tell you about older women ttc - only tell me if it's good news please . Sorry to hear you are in the wars again.

Love to all.

Hi all,
thank you for being so caring, you all rock!

Rainbow, it's OK I'm doing a natural cycle so the hospital doesn't supply progesterone, it's supposed to be manufactured by my own body. I was being a bit naughty and self-medicating a very low dose (left over from last cycle).
The ibuprofen I won't take it again, but I did check first and it does affect ovulation (that's what happened to me) and is not recommended during the last trimester, but seems to be OK post ovulation and in the early stages of pregnancy as far as I can see.
Thank you for caring, didn't think you were being bossy at all, just considerate.

Deige glad you liked the song, possible future career for me? (everyone shakes their heads)
No the appetite's back so I'll cross that symptom off the ever-diminishing list.

Hippy sounds like this could be it, can't wait to hear your results tomorrow - (who are we kidding) tonight.

Hairy, it's a tricky one about where you are in your cycle. The last but one cycle was like that, I had AF then 11 days later started bleeding for eveeeer (or 7 days). I then treated that as a new cycle and AF turned up about 34 days later (so that was an extra week). Since then AF is totally bac to normal and ovulation is in the 'right' place IYSWIM.

Linda I thought I saw you wearing dark glasses and wig over there.
Doctors do have a special gift for being completely removed from a situation, sometimes with an extra sprinkling of callous disregard. I suppose you would have to be removed when dealing with some of the things doctors have to contend with.
Nice to hear from you.

Alba nice to see you are still checking up on us, making sure we don't take any 'bad' painkillers or anything like that.

OK so I now don't have any symptoms at all, not a one. Hmm. Don't really have much to compare this with other times I have been pg I didn't know and had no idea what length my cycle was or my basal body temperature was doing.
I won't stop TTC because I like it on here.

rowing good stuff - i thought it was different cos you had ov'd and thus would produce your own progesterone.

It's all very weird at work. The woman who was doing 'it' twice a day despite me telling her not to, was on exactly the same cycle as me. we started our last period 1 day apart and seem to have ov'd on the same day. She is also going to test tomorrow - ohhh the pressure. I am actually worrying now stuff like what if i get a BFP and she doesn't - will i feel bad or vice versa - arrgghhh - I need to stop stressing about stuff like that .

The main difference is that she is using prog cream and taking cough mixture to make more cm (not proven just an idea off the net) and using pre-seed, whereas I went oh naturel (spelling?).

We're both 43 as well. We have promised to update each other tomorrow. She started saying that i should use prog cream etc if I get a positive but i honest feel like I don't want to. When i was preg early on this year my hormone levels were good and I do believe both the doc and the consultant who said they felt that my loss was not down to any sort of progesterone problem or such like. I don't want to use that cream again cos I felt totally hormonal when using it.

Do you all think I should go with my instinct if I get a BFP and just let my body get on with it?? There is definitely loads of preogesterone floating about inside me I have major heartburn and funny boobs whereas she, who is adding progesterone, has no symptoms as yet. IYSWIM.

linda sorry i meant to comment on your doc. It is odd that the last time he saw you you were in the middle of a horrific time and this time no mention of it. I can only conclude that they don't know how you'll feel if they bring it up. Maybe some people would actually prefer it if they didn't mention it - might make them feel vulnerable. Or am I clutching at straws in my efforts to support your doc and make him sound like a nice guy???

curly Did i read that rowing said you about to test? - is that true?? what news?

OMG linda thanks so much for that. I am honestly struggling not to cry now .

It all makes great sense. I am also trying to view my MMC from a positive slant (I know it sounds daft put like that) but i am trying to say to myself that my body took so well to the pregnancy that it just kept charging ahead despite the foetus not being right. Hence, as long as the feotus is right I feel my body will do the job well.

I think that makes sense and I hope I haven't upset anyone who had an MC rather than an MMC (I'm just trying to make myself feel positive and I don't want to make anyone else feel bad - IYSWIM) (paranoid face icon).

Linda I think you should sort out this appendix or gallstone prob and then have a good old think. 'You've gotta be in it to win it' - but I do understand that everyone's circumastances are different and I don't want to encourage you to ttc if it's not 100% right for you.

Thank you so much for taking the time to record all that and type it (that's the writer in you). Me thinks I will be taking many visits back to this page to reassure myself again and again. Bless you honey. (Hippy snivels off).

Oh get you hairy - discussion of the day!!!

I know her, I know her - she's my friend!!

hipp# please please please do a test, just a teeny little one, a few hours won't make any difference..

I'm 44 in Sept too and dh has given us till the end of the year,

Scared

Have been seriously lurking....soo much going on, I was going to join in the much mentioned shagfest of 2 weeks ago, but decided that I just wasn't in the right frame of mind 2 weeks after MC to contemplate being pregnant again...so I am waiting for RTD to appear tomorrow, then if my aged body keeps doing what it's told will be SWI big style when we're on holiday in Greece in 2 weeks time!
Linda thank you for sharing your consultants thoughts, so lovely to hear such positivity and makes me think hmmm ok maybe I won't get rid of all my hoarded baby kit just yet!
Gum woo hoo at last!
Diege Happy belated birthday, have some virtual cupcakes I've just done a batch
Everyone else have a great BH weekend hope it brings good things to us all
oh and Hippy pmsl @ friend of Hairy!! We are not worthy....

Hi all,

Linda what a lovely post. Not that you are interested in TTC any more [taps side of nose] at all.

Hippy you and your mate at work are putting me in mind of that Eastenders scene where Chelsea and Amira both test at the same time. Of course they mix up the tests and get the wrong results. So be very careful.
That cough mixture thing does work, it's gaufenisen or something and it both produces more mucous and thins the mucous, works for the whole body. Have tried it.
Are you going to last until tomorrow...

Lia no pressure then!
What's your actual day, I am the 7th?

21st, so am a young whipper snapper compared to you.

Wow, what are you even doing on this thread you youthful thing.

I know I know but I just wanna see what it'll be like when Iget old

Oooo, Linda, I just love what the OB said.Gives me such hope.Thankyou!

Oh My Gosh Hippy, put me out of my misery and TEST woman! I'm feeling very positive about you...
Hello Ghengis, so nice to see you here. Can someone please tell me what 'RTD" stands for?

I am amazed at how much better I feel having had my period.I was a bit of an emotional wreck the couple of days before. I wonder if there's something I can do about that next month so I'm not so sad? Oh, I know, I'll get pregnant
Having said that I don't think I was being unreasonable about my parents, and still feel a bit hurt, but already over it...I'm resigned to taking a step back, and letting them make the effort.The sad thing is, so far they haven't and I don't think they will.I think they are "neglectful" parents/grandparents. So many 'baby-boomers' are selfish I find.My mother in particular likes to do everything on her own agenda, no matter what.She just doesn't see herself as selfish, but that is how it appears to me.

So, Rowing, I think the old Gum is back. Spent time in the vegie patch yesterday, with little Charlie playing with the chickens, enjoying the smell of the grapefruit blossom.Gorgeous. Also got the slow cooker out for lamb shanks, had the fire going, and really felt happy. Makes me glad that I am ttc, I think little Charlie will be a wonderful big brother.

How is everyone else going? Are you having lovely sunny weather in the UK?

I'm looking forward to logging in in a few hours to see if there's any news....