Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 5

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Thought I'd set us up a new home! kettle's on and choc tin open.

This is a lucky start to our new thread: 2 BFPs and a fantastic fertilisation rate from Dueling!

Boobs and biscuits to everyone

Thank you for your help yesterday, I did decide to go natural this month - seemed to be the general concensus from everyone and it was my gut reaction as well, I just needed a bit of reasurance!

Who knew it would all be quite so difficult, eh?

Congrats again Capricorn and best of luck to everyone else on this thread, it's a long old journey but you have some great support on here together.

Thanks again

PnM x

Dueling WOW congratulations that is fantastic news!!! Sorry to hear about the bug and hope you are feeling much better now

Italian How's Spring Harvest going? This 2WW is the worst, how are you coping?

Cerubina I hope you are right but at the moment not feeling so positive

Sorry it's not a long post today the last few days have been a bit of a nightmare, since my last post my bleed has taken a big change (TMI ALERT) it has gone from dark brown to bright heavy red with quite a bit of strange looking clots. Very sorry for the TMI!!! So i'm not feeling very positive about this cycle. I emailed the clinic yesterday and they said as long as it wasn't a bleed like a period it should be OK but it's getting worse, although not as bad as my normal period but the clotting is starting to concern me . I'm feeling really sorry for myself at the moment as you can probably tell and not even the thought of a chocolate bar is helping!!!!

I will let you know how the test goes tomorrow....

Hope everyone else is OK and sorry for a negative post

Hello ladies!

I think we need a roll call for those on a 2ww because there seem to be so many of you at the moment! I now have to check the thread compulsively since I can't remember who is testing when. However, I'm sending you all sticky vibes in a lovely glowing orange...

Seems like all we do around here is wait! Wait for treatment to begin, wait for the drugs to work, then the EC, then the ET - then its a 2ww and then a wait until the first scan... Urgh! Have been racking my brains for clever ideas on how to pass the time - but I can't think of anything! Perhaps Italian has the right idea and just get away for a bit.

In the meantime, I'm passing around some left-over Lindt chocolate bunnies. If anything can ease the pain of waiting, it will be chocolate...

Good idea Mercenary.

When are the rest of you on the 2ww going to test in relation to your transfers and what day were the embies at the time?

Ok I'll start.

Gingerwine 2 Day 2 embies transferred on 09/04/2010. Official test day 21/04/2010

I don't know if that's the best way to put it so feel free to suggest another way. My test day is 14 days post egg collection, which makes sense to me as that was 'ovulation'. I think some people are told to test 2 weeks after transfer though. What's everyone else doing?

Having said all that I will possibly test a couple of days early as I am going away for 4 days with work and my test day is whilst I'm away. Bit of a nightmare as I don't want to think about getting a negative result and then being on my own in a hotel room. Having said that I'm not sure I would be much company!

Still extremely bored here!!!!

Gleegeekgleek - one blastocyst transferred 12/4, official test day 2012 (ok not really, that's just how it feels, especially as the clinic says 16 days even after a 5 day transfer), planning to test on about the 20th or 21st.

Day one of the 2ww is over -hurray. I've been way too busy and not rested enough (ds is on school hols) and have hiccuped and sneezed a lot. Trying not to think about it all.
Ended up with 17 frozen blasts as they added another today (day 6) that had been slightly slower to get to blast stage but was still ok.

2 day 2 embies 31/3/2010 official test day 14/3/2010 BFN

So sorry sgibbo. I know there's not much I can say.

How are you?
GW

Hi sgibbo, really sorry to hear that. Big hugs for you - hope you're okay xxxx

Thanks for the congrats guys. I'm going to have a read through and see what you've all been up to.

Sorry to hear your news sgibbo [hug]

I am not on IVF but did have a Clomid cycle and shags so can say my test day is 24/4/10

Hi everyone - put them into date order - hope I havent missed anyone off??

Penfoldsglasses - 3 x Day 2 embies transferred on 03/04/10. Official test date
16/04/10

Gleegeekgleek - one x blastocyst transferred 12/4, official test day 20/21-4-10

Gingerwine 2 x Day 2 embies transferred on 09/04/2010. Official test day 21/04/2010

I have been fine with not testing so far but this morning I had a real strong urge to test. I have a Clearblue Digital for Friday morning before I go in for the official blood test BUT have a couple of ebay cheapies that just happen to be lying around... also the past week I have been up at the loo around 4/5 times a night so dont have any real FMU - Help!

Sorry AmberC Penfoldsglasses - 3 x Day 2 embies transferred on 03/04/10. Official test date
16/04/10

Gleegeekgleek - one x blastocyst transferred 12/4, official test day 20/21-4-10

Gingerwine 2 x Day 2 embies transferred on 09/04/2010. Official test day 21/04/2010

AmberC official test date: 24/04/10

Sorry to hear this Sgibbo.
Very unmumsnetty but hugs to you.

Sgibbo I am so sorry to see your news.

Sorry to hear your news, Sgibbo. I hope the next round - if that's what you choose to do - is successful.

Will be watching you other TWWers with interest.

I had my first scan today, and there was definitely a heartbeat - the options were 1, 2 or none, and must admit, I was pretty nervous. But there is a baby in there, so whew!

Kiwikat - yay to your heartbeat!!

Italian - let us know how you're getting on if you're lurking.

I had another scan this morning. Still slow progress so they've upped my dosage to 300iu now. I have a couple at 12mm and a couple at 8mm and a few more little 'uns. I started the cetrotide (to stop me releasing eggs) this evening and the injection sight itches like mad - not looking forward to doing that again tomorrow!

Off to bed now, night all xxx

sgibbo sorry to hear your news. Thinking of you.

well not the most inspiring start.

had first appointment with fertility nurse 9am today, and dp got a call 5.05pm last night to go to a job interview 9.30 today.

tried to contact the clinic, but only got answer phone.

decide to turn up and explain, and the postcode for the clinic was wrong on the letter so had to guess where it was,

had 3 diff people treat me like an imbasile for not having a man in tow "it did say on your letter"

then cried an the nurse, who took pity on me and agreed to a "basic chat", which ended with her suggesting abstenance until they can work out why SWI causes me pain ( i have known i am allergic to sperm for the last 12 years)

now have to rejoin the waiting list for a new appointment

ARGGGH

Moomaker You must be so annoyed. I hope your DH gets the job! What are they planning to do to investigate you if you don't mind me asking? How long is the waiting list for another appointment?

Kiwikat It must be so wonderful to see that little hearbeat. Hope the sickness is not too bad. How are you managing keeping it from your boss?

Idream Well done on growing those follies. You are making steady progress and the increased dose should move things along. Are they planning to do EC early next week still? My cetrotide injections were more painful too. It's not a lot of fun is it?

Penfoldsglasses How are you? Have you resisted those tests?

I'm a bit down here. I couldn't sleep last night. I don't really have any symptoms apart from slightly sore boobs. And the progesterone is playing havoc with my bowels which is making me uncomfortable. I listened to Zita again last night and started crying half way through. I can't work out if I'm feeling like this because of an instinct that it hasn't worked, or because I'm trying to prepare myself for a negative result or because of all the horrid progesterone. I would like to go to sleep and wake up on testing day please!!

Waves to everyone else

Hi Gingerwine - I am sorry you are feeling down. It feels all like a huge gamble and life is on hold.

Kiwikat - Congrats on that heartbeat - it must have been a huge relief to you.

Idream - Hang on in there - at least they are going up steadily. I had a cluster of one slowly growing and had another four racing ahead. It turns out they chose the cluster as the others peaked too soon.

moomaker I hope all goes well for your DH -there is enough stress in this TTC malarkey without a clinic adding to it! I hope your appointment arrives soon.

Week one of the 2ww flew by and this week has dragged by. For the past couple of nights I have not slept well ( going to the toilet every two/three hours) and have had dreams that the IVF has not worked - I dont know if it is my sub-conscious preparing me or not. I think I may test tonight and if it is a BFN then I can get get my disappoinment/upset out of the way in private and hopefully get a decent sleep as I am dog-tired.

My situation is that I have got pregnant four times naturally in the past five years - but have miscarried them between 6 and 9 weeks. We went for IVF as I am 41 and that they would grade the eggs - hopefully for a better chance. I am taking Predosoline, clexane and baby asprin as they reckon I have NK Cells and that is why my womb rejects the embryo.

So with all these drugs as well as the progesterone I dont know how I feel - apart from bloated and tired. Only symptom I have is sore but that maybe the added progesterone.

Sorry for the whinge....

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the supportive posts.

I've got a quick question - I've started to have EWCM today. Is this usual on a IVF cycle? That's normally a sure fire sign that I'm about to ovulate and now I'm worrying that they gave me the cetrotide (to prevent ovulation - had 1st injection last night) too late. I'm in for a scan in the morning, but just wondering if anyone has had any experience of this.

Penfold'sSpecs - if it means you'll get a good night sleep it might be worth testing tonight. I don't imagine that (apart from using FMU) it makes much difference for just a few hours if you were going to test in the morning anyway. You'll deal with any outcome much better if you're not exhausted. Good luck xxx

Idream I had loads of EWCM when I was on the stimming drugs... it was so abundant it really scared me but I was told it was normal. I didn't have cetrotide though, just suprecur all the way through the treatment.

try not to worry, though I know it's easy for me to say. x

Hi all

Penfold best of luck for testing tonight/tomorrow.

Kiwi that's great that they found the heartbeat - a big hurdle and a very positive sign. Good news.

Idream it must be a little frustrating to feel the follies are going slower than you'd hoped, but good that you are being monitored so carefully. Hope they find the right mix very soon.

Sgibbo more condolences on your negative result. So sorry to hear it, hope you are doing OK in the circumstances.

Moomaker that sounds like crappy timing with the interview/appointment clash. How unlucky. Hopefully now you are on their books you might get another date through quite quickly, and I hope your DH felt the interview went well. Will he find out soon?

Poor Ginger. Everything seems so hard when you can't sleep but maybe tonight you can catch up a bit. See if you can make time for a relaxing bath or something. Loads of hormones and hope and fear flowing round your system, so it is bound to take a toll.

I had my appointment at St Mary's today with Mr Rai, the miscarriage expert. He is pretty eccentric! Quite hard to follow, quietly spoken and seemed a bit absent-minded. However, of interest was that he said that losses after 8 weeks are more significant than those before, because the chance of them being down to a one-off chromosomal fault is so much less (if you see a heartbeat at 8 weeks, you should have a 98% chance of the baby surviving ). So the fact we'd had one loss at around 9 weeks is of interest and requires testing. The other loss at 7 weeks is likely to have had a different cause.

He referred me for a raft of tests and I had all of them done today bar the FSH/LH test, which has to be in a couple of weeks. They're going to test antiphospholipids, liver function, chromosomes and a few other blood things. That little lot, including the consultation, came to £850! And DH has to have his chromosomes done too, so that's another £240 for him. Sheeeeeeeeet. We will go back in a month to discuss the results and make an action plan.

All in all it was a bit underwhelming and farking expensive, but I suppose the more important appointment is the second one when we find out what's what. Hopefully.

to anyone I've missed, hope you are all well.

Thank you Dueling, you have made me feel better. And I don't think that it is "easy for you to say" as I know that you've been through it all - and come out the otherside with a BFP!