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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

To TTC or not to TTC, that is one of the many questions...

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 16/02/2010 10:56

Ok fellow ditherers, as we have filled up one thread (and still not made too many firm decisions) here's another one for us to continue to procrastinate and worry on.

Here's to more monitoring of relative green and redness, mutual support and occassional chivving, discussion of everything baby or not baby related, and perhaps even our first BFP...?

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lizardqueenie · 23/03/2010 18:16

Had a bit of a sleep but still feel crap.

Lol Suburbiton!

I live in South East London/ Kent border Sorry to be vague but I've had a bit of a nasty surprise on another thread today where I have offended another member (got in touch with MNHQ about it all & they were v supportive and said it was clear from the thread and replies of others that I didnt mean to offended) but due to that going to be a bit more careful about specific details I post online. Gosh, long explanation, but just to emphasise absolutely nothing to do with anyone on this thread (you're all lovely) and I hope you don't think i am being cagey.

How about you?

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 19:11

Evening All!

Am laughing my head off about snakes in the car! Best typo ever!

I don't think the reply to your text was entirely necessary, Confused. Bit harsh, I mean, a throwaway comment like that could really upset you if you were trying and failing to have a baby. Anyway, sounds like it was sorted out in the end, and hopefully they will get some sleep soon. Everyone says the first 6 weeks are the hardest...

Sooo. Its Day 15. I may have to take some of my thermometer frustration back. Apologies if what follows is way TMI, but this is my first month, I promise I wont mention this again. It seems the first temp leap was a correction of some sort, as I am now 100% sure I ovulated on a more 'normal' Day 13. The reason? Well, a second temp jump but also...CM. Yes, YTD is right, you have to be a knicker checker. And it was frankly very obvious. The much lauded EWCM, in my first month! Im really chuffed actually. Was slightly less chuffed when DH noticed it apres sex. Because there has also been the much discussed increase in sex drive...hurrah! Unfortunately a massive peak in desire coincided with the true day of ovulation. Not great when you are trying not to TTC! Emotionally, Im fine so far, no crazy moods or swings yet.

Im working all night, so will be on the lap top. Feel free to chat and distract me from what I should be doing!

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 19:17

PS. Also, I got my letter through with my appointment to see the dermatologist. Its not until early summer, so a while yet. Hopefully this means the doc wasnt very concerned. Cant believe Im going back next week to ask for something else!

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 23/03/2010 20:02

Ooh HP EWCM on day 13 and a second temp jump - all clasic signs of a textbook mid cycle ovulation. Encouraging signs that the HP-SP ovavries are performing as they ought.

I noticed an increased desire to leap on my DH at ovulation too. Aren't our bodies clever in the way that everything comes togther (no pun intended) at the ripe time?

One of the facinating things about TTC and now being pregnant, is the way you are no longer n control of your body. You take away the pill and the artifical cycles that ome with it and suddenly are aware of a whole pattern that your body is designed to repeat, all for the purpose of reproducing. And then once one of DH's litle swimmers finally makes it through and we have lift off, there's a really fantastic process starts, all of which I have no control over at all. Occassionally this is terrifying, but tonight I'm not feeling sick, am not too tired and am happy to be in awe of the whole process.

My little bean is 6 weeks old today (fertility friend pregancy site calculates both pregnancy length and age of feotus) and measures between 14 and 20mm. It has a face, arms and lags, a heart and all other major organs now in place. Am feeling quite proud of his progress.

LQ was quite tickled by the snakes in teh car. I've been 5 hpours in the car this afternoon - and the passenger seat was loaded with 'em - been munching on the little blighters all day! Continous eating is a pretty good way of keeping the sickness at bay, although if I continue in this vein, the pregnancy sickness could be replaced by the real thing!!

I think you should maybe try and give yorself a week or so to get back into the swing of things at work before telling them. I am planning to wait until after the 12 week scan before making it official. However, I ended up telling my boss on Friday. But that was partly to explain why I needed to take half a working day to make the four hour journey up to the North West for our thre day training event (I am Travel Lodging for the next 3 days - deep joy!) when all my colleagues were working as normal and travelling up in the evening. I wanted him to know that I was being feeble rather than lazy! But I have a good relationship with my boss and he is a realy nice guy, so I as confident I could tell him and know it would go no further.

Confused glad to hear your friends have defrosted towards you. I don't think new parents are the best subjects for comedy. My friends with the early arrival are looking pretty knackered and their little one does at least sleep quite well between his 3 hourly feeds. It's all pretty overwheleming.

However, as with birth, I am blocking all this out. For now, I'm just going to be excited cos my embryo has a face!!

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confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 20:44

O, YTD, your bit about the 'embryo' having a face brought a lump to my throat! Thankfully DH is away this week so I can get watery eyes (after all, OBEM is on shortly) and nobody will know - bring it on!

Yes, they have defrosted towards me. They were fine really, after the initial hiccup. While it may be a tactless thing to say just in case I was TTC I have got the 'I don't want kids' patter down to a fine art so I don't think anyone would really suspect otherwise. I have to say though it sounds bloody grim - sorry YTD and LQ! - all this constant feeding but no sleeping and none of your time being your own. Add to that the long and exhausting birth that you've had no time to recover from - dear me! I've gone rather red again. Funny that! ^

LQ I am in Bristol at the moment and fair enough on the skanty details. I do forget that this is all public and often give far too many obvious details at times. Oh well, I can't change it now.

I would like to end this post by telling you, and possibly countless others, that I have never checked my knickers in my life. In fact, I wouldn't know what I was meant to bbe checking for in comparison to what it might normally be like. I clearly haven't lived!

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 20:51

Yay, a mini-YTD face! How exciting!

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 20:53

Confused - if only it was just the knickers you check

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 20:58

What?!

Guess I'll have to Google it then. Humph. (By the way, My Beautiful Cervix still comes up in my visited sites even though I went onto the site twice - once for me and once showing DH.)

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 21:03

For the love of God be careful if you Google 'vagina' and 'juices'!

Lets just say, its a bit easier to judge the type of fluid if you kinda get a bit closer to the action. Imagine the mid-cycle photos of My Beautiful Cervix. But on your fingers.

Seriously, TCOYF. It has all you need to know. And more than you ever wanted to know.

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 21:06

TCOYF? Might have to Google that too!

Watching OBEM and in tears already and it's only been on 5 mins!

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 21:09

Taking Charge of Your Fertility - the book I got a while back. Proving to be very useful now!

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 21:13

Ah, of course!

Am in tears.

You too may be when you watch this week's.

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 21:18

Oh no, will I? I havent watched it for ages, its recorded for an appropriate time. Hopefully YTD isnt crying hormonal tears as well!

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 21:21

She'd be made of stone if she wasn't!

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 21:33

Is it sad? I dont do well with sad stuff.

SeaGreen · 23/03/2010 21:44

Purposefully - and on purpose!- ignoring the fact that OBEM is on. Oh, go on then, may just get the remote after posting this.
Check this out for a little light hearted fun (so I?ve been seeing all these posters about town) and go to this site, and find it?s an ad for the mooncup (remember we spoke about it on the old thread)! Anyway the site has this button where you can submit what you call your lady bits- and clearly a lot of people did- some of the names are hilarious! here - click to the link at the bottom that says 'tell us what you call yours'.
Confused - glad the situation with your friends got sorted. Dare say they went a bit OTT in their response because of their stress levels- I didn?t think your comment was offensive at all! Though I do say that a lot of doggie rules apply to children (and some rules like keeping it consistent etc apply all through!)- and it?s difficult to keep comments bottled in sometimes when I meet parents with new children! Though it?s got to be better than the woman i know who cooed at the new mum and her baby ?ooh, so cute, it?s just like a puppy!?
LQ- if you took a flight now, it would be Snakes on the Plane! < Crawls off after cracking horrible joke of the week>

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 22:16

On phone but back shortly

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 22:34

HP it wasn't sad as such, just really moving. Premature and or ill babies etc but no deaths and a reasonably positive end.

Seagreen babies and dogs are SOOOOO similar it's not true! The consistency etc and being firm but kind blah blah blah. However, if someone is not into dogs they look at you in horror if you say such things (I know from bitter experience.)

lizardqueenie · 23/03/2010 22:45

I'm loving the snake jokes - its funny its one of the pet names me and DH have for each other (yes, I know its nauseating!) And SeaGreen - I did too think of Snakes on the Plane! Will check out the lady parts site.

Watched OBEM tonight- oh my word, DH was a bit emotional after too. He got annoyed when the little boy, William came out of his operation and was asking why the Dr's were not straight there to tell the mum what had happened.

It made me think- the worry never stops does i; when you have children I mean. I don't mean that in a pessimistic way but it really does put things in perspective.

Confused I am not much help with what you are meant to have in your knickers, temps or the range of abbreviations. However I do know how bad it could be if you type the wrong thing into google. Just be aware!

YTD good to hear you are feeling good. Yay a small face! :-) I am still a bit dodge on my dates since the whole calculator hiccup- i am either 7 weeks or 8 . Thanks for your advice re work - I think my boss would be ok, she wouldn't blab, I just think it might make it a bit easier if I do tell her, but then again maybe I am better to wait until 12 weeks. Hmmm

lizardqueenie · 23/03/2010 22:50

Lol re babies & dogs! I have never had a dog, always had cats. we have 2 cats and one of my closest friends said she didnt like my cats chin! talk about cutting! i said that she might be able to say that about my cat but if she said that about my kids i would kick her behind! ah she's a funny one!

SeaGreen · 24/03/2010 00:02

Confused - so true! Have caught myself more than once almost blurting out something (well intendedly) that non doggy types would never get and that the parents would be bound to have found offensive!!
Like, dogs behave like children a lot of the time. Two year olds really. The difference is they stay that way all their life! Then, as you said- consistency. Setting boundaries. Oh, and giving them some direction when they don?t know what to do!! and negative psychology works for my dog at least! have you also noticed that both end up havng this sudden spurt of energy when they're totally tired and should actually be in bed? So tucking both into bed at that point work for both!

Ended up watching OBEM - those babies are so tiny and so precious.

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 24/03/2010 08:19

I was in bits at OBEM. My t'interweb connetion gave up, otherwise I'd have posted a running comentry on my weepiness! Baby Izzie did really well. 23 weeks is earlier than is generally considered viable. I did think that baby William is going to have a tough life.

This morning I am pleased to announce I no longer feel sick - just hungrey! I have feasted on a Travel Lodge breakfast (everythig is long life and wrapped in plastic) and am packing bananas and special k bars into my laptop bag to keep me going through the day. On balence, I think I'd rather be fat than sick!

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confuseddoiordonti · 24/03/2010 09:09

I have done the comparing children to dogs on more than one occassion where, in retrospect, it wasn't appropriate! I forget that not everyone thinks of them (well, animals) like I do, and people can have especially strong feelings that are anti dog.
Two year olds and dogs are very similar indeed - and when my dog has a 'teenage' moment it is scarily similar to when humans do too!
When I went to London my dog was so over tired and over stimulated she couldn't switch off, and instead wenr all hyper but erratic at the same time. It hadn't helped that she hadn't had a massive run about since the very early morning either (the park was full of bikes and she has a bit of a thing for bikes, which would be easier to control if they were more spread out but in SW2 this isn't going to happen!) She has been similar on a weekend away with about 15 others - but luckily that was in the countru so she could run about as and when she wanted (and when we got back she refused to leave the house for the first day she was so tired!) Gotta love 'em, eh?

As for LQ's commnet about being pissed off about what someone said about her cats chin - perhaps we're all bonkers but I get rather uppity if someone criticizes any of my animals looks or behaviour too! It's almost like a personal affront! When I told S that my dog had been walking the streets off lead he made a comment about it being her behaviour in the house when she should be on a lead that was 'concerning.' He then added she was a 'pain in the arse.' Well, ill or not I was very cross with him! I didn't say so but wanted to point out that in his chaotic house with people coming and going, a dog of visiting, no running about since that morning etc etc she did bloody well, thank you very much! And, while we're at it, S, you try bringing up a dog and then you'll see how bloody easy it is - HA! Ooops, getting carried away again...

Top news YTD that you don't feel sick any more. Maybe there is more to the healing properties of a Travel Lodge breakfast than we would have initially presumed!

Right, I am being strict and signing off as I need to get washed and take this dog out before I go to work.

Have a lovely day, all!

confuseddoiordonti · 24/03/2010 09:14

Er... "a dog of visiting"? No idea what that was meant to be but I think it's a typo! A lot of visting perhaps? Anyway, S said he thinks my dog should be on a lead IN the house as well as out as I didn't make that clear either!

Trying to type really fast doesn't work does it, it just means about a third of it doesn't end up making sense...

LeviStubbsTears · 24/03/2010 09:59

Oh my goodness, OBEM. Very very moving. Lots of weeping here too. And what lovely parents. So glad that both relationships seemed rock solid as it must put you through sheer hell. I have friends who are going through something similar (and things are pretty bad for their child) so it felt very close to home. They are amazing people, just humbling in their positive attitude and strength and love for each other and their child - like the people on the programme.

I've never been much in close proximity to a dog but I can imagine it's very similar. I also felt your friend's comment was a little off, confused, but glad you're not offended/upset (and neither are they now) - I guess different rules have to apply and you have to make allowances for people when they are that fatigued.

One day perhaps I'll get onto my trials and tribulations with CM - never seems typical and have never really pinpointed ovulation (and more issues which I'll spare you) - but have never quite got to the bottom of it (so to speak!) and every test says everything is fine. Anyway, good luck with it all, HP.

Right, must do some work - hope your night of working was ok, HP - sounds a bit hardcore.