30s TTC - We BESH you a Merry Jizzmas and a droid-free new year!

[CurlyCasper]

Come in, come in. The wine is mulling, the bird is stuffed and cooked. We have a huge table at which to enjoy our festive feast, and the rippling Ricky Whittle is the centrepiece, draped in berries to be removed by whatever method you choose.

A bottle of Gin and an elf-man in a box awaits each and every one of you. Just make your wish and when you undo the bow he will appear.

There's a nativity tableau in the corner, for praying to the baybee Jebus and, most importantly of all, Santa has been asked to deliver the gift of exceptional fertility, so that each and every BESH can enter the new year with a baybeeee in their tum tum.

Oh, and I've let a few cats in to aid with the 2WOOFL menkulness.

Now, let's get together and get the tree up!

Thirded. We're having a sad end to 20009 but I predict great things for 2010.

Fourthed. We are here for each other, through sadness and joy. That's why Teh BESHes are unstoppable! We can't stop the pain for our Gin and Twinkle but we can be here for whatever they need to say and to hear.

Roll on 2010, that's all I can say.

Liking the positive outlook - just four days to go till an amazing new year. hugs all round.

Medee my darling, let him SWI - you don't need to enjoy it - nobody ever said anything about enjoying it!

2010 for everyone please - let it be a tremendous year for all our BESHes and PESHes, may the BESHes become PESHes and the PESHes retain their marbles.

I'm not really at my most attractive sneezing and snorting, so not sure I could convince him!

I see your predicament... and of course if you go face-down to the pillow it could all end up a bit bumsex.

Isn't that the best way to win a baybee

I wouldn't know ... - ask iggy!

I am going to do my best to reverse the luck of this thread by getting pregnant and staying pregnant this month. Oh yes. I want my anniversary baby. We're back from the in-laws, no work this week, I should be OVing any day now, so maximum shagging can commence.

Excellent, Muser, we can be SWI twins!

I should be SWI but I am in Bath at parents, to attend cousins wedding. And TG is at home, getting ready to return to work tomorrow. How dare they plan their fucking wedding when I am fertile? Mind you, the amount I've drunk over the last week I've probably pickled my eggs.

Ha, I have been drinking non stop PollyPoo, today is my first booze free day. But I may have some NotBaileys to counter that. The only way I managed to get through Christmas Eve, after a thoughtless baby comment, was by drinking vast quantities of red wine. And ending the night trying to sob quietly into my pillow. After that I was in the "well, this may be the last Christmas I can get blotto" so was accepting all offers of wine, port and cider.

My one piece of advice for people dealing with bad news. Expect it to hit you again a little while down the line. I thought I was fine until Christmas Eve. First time since I got the news that I actually stopped for a minute and BAM! I feel better again now, but please be kind to yourselves and let yourselves grieve if you need to.

NotBaileys... I like that. I got through a bottle last week - despite being dairy/sugar/yeast intolerant.

I went to bed in a huff on boxing day as a thoughtless member of TG's step family told me how I 'just need to relax and it will happen'. This, coming from a woman who went through IVF for their child. You'd think she'd have been a little more sympathetic. AND I had literally just told her how much it upset me when SIL told me the same thing just before christmas (SIL nearly ended up with the heel of my boot in her eye). I mean, I know she'd been drinking but wtf?! Why is it that every man and his dog wants to give unsolicited advice on fertility? I didn't ask for it, I don't want it and I don't need it. Do I appear so fucking stupid that I might not know that too much stress is bad for you? Do they think I was and always have been this mad? Grrrr....

Anyway I will stop ranting now and have some more booze instead. Chinese burns and a kick on the shins for all of you lovely laydeez.

M&S NotBaileys is nicer than actual Baileys I think.

People who say "Relax and let it happen" ought to be shot into space. Fuckers.

My comment was my grandma-in-law doing a "so s-i-l is pregnant, I'm just waiting for you two to give me a great grandchild now". My response was a very short & impolite "yes well we tried but it didn't work". Which I don't think she even heard.

I spent the rest of the night in a foul mood. Luckily the rest of my in-laws were lovely. Especially my pregnant s-i-l.

We're now in the lull between having guests over Christmas (my family) and being guests for Hogmanay (his family). Seem to have had millions of baby conversations over the last few days - sister is a midwife so that's normal, but when she started googling the local maternity provision for me that was weird - there seems to be a general assumption that we will one day but not quite yet.

Christmas Eve brought the final pill-induced fake-droid, I'm going to miss being able to predict it to the hour. Should probably work out how long my cycles used to be pre-pill..... Given that I have no idea when (if!) I'll ovulate this month, does this mean we need to be SWI all month?!

In the meantime, ebay account has been put to use ordering cheapy sticks to pee on and a thermometer. All of which I'd decided I wasn't going to do for a few months at least.....

pollypoo, the fear of advice like that is why we have told no-one we are trying. My mother's comment was less insensitive than your GiL's, Muser (mainly as she doesn't know we are trying so it was more unfortunate than anything) but why do older generations assume our role in a family is solely to procreate the next generation?

I did manage to get some last night - secret to doing it with a cold is to do it in the dark so he can't see the beacon that is one's nose!

Ocarina probably not, start around Day 10-14 and try to study your symptoms. My first post-pill cycle was 42 days and there it has stayed, so you would knacker yourself if you were to be as unlucky as I.

It's knicker checking time Ocarina. Look for the lovely fertile mucus. Is it too early to say mucus?

Hooray for getting action Medee. We have started here as well. I'm staring at calendars trying to work out whether droid is due when I'm away skiing or just before I go. I really do not want droid while learning to ski. Not sure I want to be pregnant either, have had The Fear after conversations about whether s-i-l ought to ski or not. Aargh.

Ginhag and Twinkle I am so sorry for you both, what terrible news. I really hope you are both ok. I am VERY for you.

never to early to say mucus, I have a pile of it in my nose at the moment.. (oh, not that sort of mucus)

Hah, my nose is where the mucus is too. I feel so attractive...

Gin and Twinkle i am so so sorry. Much love and of course a punch in the eye to you both.

Gin & Twinkle - so, so sorry to hear your news. Don't quite know what to say.

Be kind to yourselves & lets all stick our fingers up to this year.

Gin & Twinkle - oh ladies, I'm so sorry. Do be kind to yourselves. Thinking of you both.

anyone else at work today? feel bored and lonely and slightly hard-done-by given no one else in the Whole World is at work [drama queen emoticon]

Ocarina - you are me this time last year! Though I hope you actually aren't cos it took till October for me to get "normal" length cycles back....and by "normal" I mean they have been 30 days twice now, which I am optimistically counting as a sign I am actually ovulating, which I wasn't earlier in the year.

Bugger. Have depressed self. Sure you will be fine, don't listen to me and my aged organs.

I'm at work. Can't seem to settle to anything today, just want to be at home like everyone else