30s TTC - After all, we're not nice 'down there' at the BESH of times...

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gin I tried to write a clear and fully meant apology and I have no idea what you mean about twisting your words. Clearly I've said something wrong again and I was just trying to say that I was sorry. Sure, I was only TTC for once cycle and sure, TTC for months or longer is utterly heartbreaking. I've been there before, too, last time, so I am absolutely aware of that. But no, I don't know how you feel because I'm not you and that fact that I have upset you is really something that I never intended and I say again, I am really sorry.

Yes, seeing people getting positives did make me feel better about everything - both times. Even though it was only a month this time I was stressing. As much as you? Less that you? Who knows. Does it matter? I was simply writing what made me feel better. Obviously it doesn't for you. I'm sorry, therefore, once again, that anything I've written makes you feel worse and again, I say, I never, ever meant for that to happen.

And I also have not said or intended to say that you're not happy that people are pregnant. I suspect that this miscommunication is the limitation of this medium and there was nothing barbed, twisted, or anything other than a straight-forward apology intended on this post and my previous post.

According to the VERY OLD thread marked on the conception page, this whole conversation was started by donttrythisathome.

Am with ski on the support this place can provide, but I think it can also make you more crazy - constant symptom spotting, not being able to concentrate on anything but babies. Will be going cold turkey (in December, hah) next month - fertility tests start then, and I can't attempt babymaking for the ten days before an HSG. Meanwhile, the husband has to retain his sperm so that they can be viewed at the fully manly concentration or something. Am also giving up temping, as it just makes everything a bit more bleurggh.

I might even give up this trying to have a baby thing and just buy a pug. Except I have suggested this to husband and he is remarkably unkeen on the idea.

Actually it was donttrythisathome here

Agree the POAS comment was insensitive

Agree the regular comments about supercuteexistingkiddies are insensitive

Can we get drunk now?

longwee! x-post.

Definitely with you on the just get drunk thing.

make mine a tequila slammer

pass the salt

Was it really don'ttry? - aaah, it all seems like so long ago. Oh, it fucking was. We also had the lovely nocoffeenoworkee and wildfig at the beginning.

iggy apologies for use of language. Fort was funny.

cunty it was a step too far even for you

I want gin back too

I don't find the comments about existing kiddies insensitive. I likes hearing about them. plus is not as if people go on about them...

Right - last one in the Pit of Angst gets sloppy seconds with George.

Gin please come back - but when you are ready to. You don't sound very happy, hon. Hug lovely Mani and forget aboutus for a bit then come back all bushy-tailed.

I actually love the cute existing children posts - they remind me (as they were designed to) what the point of all this is. I also love the oh crap will the line last posts cos, if it ever happens, that is probably how I'd be, too. It's a sad but true fact that we all face miscarriage at our age etc. I'm really sorry some BESHes are getting upset but I for one am really glad I am hearing everything/all sides of it. I like to hear about positives cos it gives me hope but I also get strength from knowing month after month I'm not the only babyfailure.

Having a Palace break is also great though - I love being here but it does ratchet up my TTC stress levels. Hence frequent quiet moments. But, that's ok too, right? Just cos we're in it together, it doesn't mean we all have to feel the same at any given moment, does it?

Dry-humps and martinis all round. Can I bring Ewan McGregor, fresh from Staring At Goats and with a dodgy Scots-US accent to the Pit?

To the Brad Pit?

Oh! oh! I went and had a lot at the original link and.... there were STATS on it!

I am SOOO vindicated

bugger bugger bugger I can't type today. I LOOKED at the original link.

Seriously, this is a TTC thread and I'm the one who has to make the first joke about 'Pandora's Box'?

I lurve you guys. The BESHterhood has kept me sane (or as sane as I can get, to be more precise) and like proppah sisterz we're gonna fall out or accidentally hurt someone else's feelings without meaning to from time to time, but the point is that we never mean to and that we always apologise and always think about each other. I can only speak for myself, but I didn't find the comments insensitive. But have just Oved, so am still optimistic at mo - ask me again in 10 days I find the comments about cheese paranoia worse, as they touch a nerve as I know I'm going to be one of those women who are all 'I walked past some bagged salad, now my unborn child has thalidomide and severe brain damage'

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to break with protocol and give Gin a big hug then sit Cameltoe on my knee and rock her gently back and forth whilst saying 'shhhh, shhhh' and stroking her hair.

Piggsy, explain to me how you can say cunt freely but disapprove of 'fanny lips'? At least she didn't say beef curtains.

What?

PS Fucking London let-down. Massive shitbag. How 'nice' of the council to not put up any signs or release info to the local press and media that they were going to cut off a major road for 3 days leading into the city, thus meaning that I miss my train. And fuck you to British Rail who charge £48.50 for a bastard single. Boohoo, poor me. Come give me some love

PS I do sometimes get peeved with supercuteexistingbabies comments but I realise that is my own jealousy. Are they available for hire?

beef curtains and fanny lips in the same sentence - you make me sick

I can happily say cunt tho - i do all the time in fact - cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt

scorps that is where I am at - I have cancelled all exercise except fucking yoga. That is para...

Hugs to you all; this TTC mullark is tough.

ski I have been doing it in the right hole, I will have you know, plus of course praying to ickly baybee Jesus. I'm awaiting the familiar twinges of Ov, then into full on 2WOOFLING.

Those of you who have seen my latest facebook status - I was awoken about 2am as some idiot drove into my parked car, and I failed to get back to sleep for another 2 hours. I pointed out to MrM that this is how we will feel with a child and sleepless nights, at which point he asked for his sperm back

exercise? what's that

LOL re sperm back medee

Sorry scorps, really bad timing on the roadworks stuff. Total ewwww at beef curtains. Didn't flinch at cunty's original description - thought very apt. But ask me when I'm feeling a bit more nauseous and I may answer differently!

Also re cheese. YOU would be welcome to go on about the perils of blue cheese. I personally wouldn't expect anything less of you .

Really hope this is your month.

Is Wizard's Sleeve acceptable, Iggster?

As soon as I've OVed I become utterly para about everything, esp. exercise (my exercise 2WOOFLing is surely legendary). In fact, I have a genuine super-paranoid batshit crazy worry to ask advice from everyone on (not Ski, I can guess her answer and it involves her rotating her finger near her ear and doing the Joey Deacon face): if I am in the sperm-meets-egg-HOPEFULLY stage of things and I don't normally consume any caffeine whatsoever, would it ruin this potentially crucial time if I had a small bit of special allergy chocolate? I am a bit caffeine-intolerant, but I can't see how a 50g bar could hurt.

Please bring me my Ceremonial Robes of The Menkul, it's starting already. Newbies, stand back in terror awe and watch and learn. Watch. And. Learn.

Very LOL @ medee

scorps - I vote no. Eat the chocolate.

yes scorps wizard's sleeve is acceptable - and hilarious.

Tell us oh menkul one - just how many days post ov are you right now? Please tell me you are past...

Didn't you finish ov after a good old shagathon weekend scorps?

Aye, Curly, I did: sexy times on both Saturday and Sunday - foofoo and everything. Got positive POK at Sun. teatime. Temp dropped yesterday and then rose dramatically today (although didn't POK yesterday until nearly 7pm cos of work and got a neg.). Although am still worried cos there was, ahem, some cunning lingualism on Saturday and according to many books, saliva is the sexual equivalent of buying a ground sheet in terms of its babyfail potential.

Still, it was v good

Iggy, am, erm, DPO1 (!) and am glad wizard's sleeve is acceptable - now, as for the foofoo, is 'garlic doughnut' going too far?