30s TTC - After all, we're not nice 'down there' at the BESH of times...

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Pandy Have you tried poking your boobs? They will start to hurt if you keep trying. Are you drinking enough water to make you wee a lot?

I have a huge mug of tea on my desk ski which I keep topped up and have, to my shame, been trying to work out how often my colleagues go and pee to see if I am peeing more frequently than the average person. Poking my boobs might elicit a few strange looks from those around me but that's not to say it's not good advice and I'll give it a try.

haha @ Pandora Are you really tracking your colleague's pee movements? Blimey - I thought polly photographing her boobs was menkul! You'll fit in nicely around these parts.

They forgot to ask you a question:

How much money have you spent on sticks you then urinate on?
i) Oh nothing, I'll probably catch first time and then get the doctor to confirm it.
ii) Over 100 quid
iii) I opened an account on ebay solely for the purpose of purchasing sticks

ski as I'm not sending my sticks to you, I'm peeing on them every other day or so just for the fun of watching the lines come up, and also to check it's getting darker.

Not in a tally chart spreadsheet type way (it's you ski that has talents in that direction isn't it?), more just thinking "ooh - she doesn't seem to get up from her desk as many times as me" type way. Although now you mention it, I guess I could do with being a bit more menkul scientific about these things.

Not at the stick-buying stage yet(they DO send you menkul), but not far off it I fear.

Are you really still testing carrots?

dora yes, did on this morning and I'm not ashamed! Well, not much. Actually, I'm just wanting the lines to get darker as it's still pretty faint. Sort of a reassurance thing.

I'm sure you know you can get 10 for £1 off ebay?

darn it, "one".

Pandy I don't know where this spreadsheet thing has come from! Really! You remember a few details and suddenly you're a stalker!

carrots Yeh, youz iz menkul.

I POASd this morning too. Found a Superdrug one lying around and wanted to see a nice dark line. There was actually still room for improvement, but it came up pretty quickly, so the moral of the story is that waiting till you are a week late is a good idea.

Now listen. There is no question that everyone here is really really pleased for those who are recently updiffed.

But carrots surely you can see that someone who got updiffed really easily being on a ttc thread talking about poasing every other day 'for the fun of seeing a line come up' is maybe not the most sensitive thing to be posting here?

I may be the only one who thinks this though,and as I am now fucking off from the palace there is prob nothing to worry about.

So,as you were...

gin don't leave the palace

I have personal experience on another conception thread of people talking about updiffment and to be honest it used to upset me as I ended up being one of about 4 left that wasn't - so I has been trying not to. But am wondering if should still post here at all.

It's not that ig am not such a witch that am not pleased for all of you guys.

It's just,from where I'm sitting,there is 'being really happy' and then there is 'not giving a fuck about how anyone else may be feeling'.

Things are not great for everyone at the mo.doesn't mean we not pleased for others but it would be nice if the thought went both ways iyswim.

That comment really pushed my buttons,sorry.

I know that gin BESH - I know you pleased. I iz not explaining well...

Aw gin you aren't a happy c*mper are you

Don't leave, we want to snuggle you and huggle you until you are right as rain again.And also I've bought you an early 80's Adam Ant as a secret santa present so you have to stay around to share him out have a play

No you are friggy. I don't want anyone to feel they shouldn't be in the palace due to diffage (hey,ski fucking built the place!) and of course it's not 'off limits' to talk about pg,it's just a case of having a bit of sensitivity.

Plus I would miss you

although tbh am not gonna be here that much for a bit,ttc is doing my head in and I may have to try n stop thinking about it.

Thanks for worrying luvver

I'm sorry Gin. I only mentioned it after carrots to show that I don't think it's insane to do repeat tests for reassurance. I genuinely thought the "wait an extra week" thing would be helpful to others. But in retrospect, I should prob have said nothing, sorry.

I did not wish to offend you and, like iggy, I have been unsure about what should and should not be said here and also on the FB page because I really don't want to hurt anyone. Please don't leave.

gin you are absolutely right and I unreservedly apologise. I was just having a bit of a joke about general mental-ness following the teasing of Pandora.

I know you're having a hard time right now and I was conscious when I started the other thread that I didn't want to write stuff here that was inappropriate. I should have been more sensitive and I'm really sorry.

I think it's unfair to say that I "don't give a fuck". I very much do. I am absolutely not trying to upset anyone, nor am I ignoring the fact that this thread is for people trying to conceive but when I was in that situation I didn't mind people talking about the fact that they had become pregnant; in fact it gave me hope. I understand that you don't feel the same way.

Obviously it's very early days and it may well be that I'm back here shortly. I'm not taking this for granted. The Gods know that I need to keep some lightness to my feelings towards all this as otherwise I will just continue to get more and more stressed about things and how viable this is, especially due to some pretty problematic genetic issues that we have to overcome. Therefore, peeing "for fun" is, in all honestly, peeing "for sanity".

I hope that I haven't upset you too much and once again I'm really, really sorry.

cunty did you know you can't sound sweet without a wee frisson of sarcasm thanks mate. And sorry forgot to credit you as another palace builder.

Thanks for Adam ant too!

Am sorry I totally do not want to cause a scene and fucking hate fights etc,but I do have my limits

Perhaps this boot in the fanny lips will sort that out?

Is tough, isn't it? Am slightly in the state igster was on her previous thread - not really wanting to post at the moment, as am a bit too sad, but not wanting to miss out on the gossip from you fabby updiffed people.

gin love, c'mere and let me grope you. There, is that better?

Am feeling fairly shit today, sorry to bring the general tone down and also first post in front of dora, muser and pinky. Hello all! I'm the one who sits in the corner rocking gently and singing about babies.

I've started spotting. I'm on CD 18. It's NOT an implantation bleed, regular readers of this column thread will know that this happens every month. Not usually a week before my period is due, mind.

cunty please to not say fanny lips

think will vom

Poor thread. Everyone have some gin and cake and we'll be grand. And wonder with me how I'm going to symptom spot when I already have a bladder the size of a hazlenut and go to the loo constantly. I'll need a colostomy bag!

caspar thanks. I know,and as I said don't want to make the palace a place of censorship! Wish I hadn't said anything.

carrots thanks for the apology. I don't appreciate it being turned round into me not being glad others are pg tho. I tried so hard to make it clear that is not where I'm coming from.

And I'm sorry,but when you were ttc it gave you hope???? You were ttc for a fucking month! So no,you don't 'understand that I may not feel the same way'. You really don't understand at all.

So. I know that was an apology but the barbed bit in the middle did it for me. I'm sure that you are trying to keep light hearted about the of and I absolutely hope it all goes really well.

However I cannot stomach getting into an argument with you and the way that you just twisted my words has really upset me so I'm off.

camelina I did also manage to extend my sadness to this thread sometimes ttc threads seem to make it worse, so i had to have time away. Fink depends on fucking hormones as well for me.

ginhag I'm sorry you're feeling so crappy honey. Please don't leave - you can gain so much support from this thread.

I can understand you're upset right now, but believe me there were days when I wanted to rip your head off and toss it in the Severn with all your tales of Mani being cute!

We all have shit, shit, shit times during this whole TTC thing - but I really do believe that we've built such great relationships here in the Palace that I really do view you all as friends and I want us to all stay friends. I don't want a "them and us" club. This is why I love the PESH thread so much. We're a gang. We're not supposed to be split up and grouped with people who went to that fertility clinic in london or people who cry because they ate philadelphia.

For the record it wasn't me who founded the Le Paleis - I think it was laurielou who was last sighted turning left on a BA bound for Phuket... Last I heard she was putting mango daquiris on her work Amex.