Just MC'd. Starting it all again.. Come and join me for the long haul, vol 2

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Hardly the most original title but I didn't want to loose anyone (well that's my excuse for the lack of originality!)

Hi Ladies,
Who is Peter Andre? I'm gonna google 'im right now... Oh, Australian singer Peter Andre? Haven't heard of him - nice bod - how's the voice?

Well, welcome cake! Sorry to hear about your mc. Glad you've joined us here! I had a mmc in late april at 13 weeks, so can relate - as all of us can here

Well yesterday was my due date for little bean that didn't make it. It's been very hard as I've also had a HELL week at work. Lots of uncontrollable tears. Hoping that could be a sign I'm pregnant now, but don't think I am or won't let myself think it for fear of being let down.

Sorry AF is making full rounds this month. Here's hoping we eek a BFP or 2 out (at least)

oh zayja that's really tough. Hope you're getting lots of RL love and support. You never know, the tears could also be a sign that you are pg... have everything crossed.

Peter Andre is quite a close neighbour of mine (ok ten mins walk away!)... what a sweetheart . Ok, not the brightest of sparks, but seems genuine and kind. (And not too up himself...).

DS has chicken pox, so we are a poorly house, as AF is here and making me feel achey and pooey .

Hope everyone bearing up... Happy Halloween for the weekend . Last chance to use special icons .!

Big hug to (((zayja)))

My temps have dropped to the indeterminate zone. Meaning, if they rise again, this drop was just a quirk (not an exact science it is). But if they stay where they are or drop further, it's pretty clear I didn't ovulate - I'd be expecting AF day after tomorrow or so. If I did ovulate, AF would be expected Tuesday week (CD43).

We've been talking lots about adoption recently. DP and I brought it up the same day, we had both been thinking about it. We both actually like the idea but I find the adoption process very daunting. We are now considering setting a date, such as next February (when we will have been TTC for a year) and then if I'm not pg by then we'll start talking to agencies.

Anyway, hope everyone has a good day and wishing a relaxed weekend for all of us (and especially cheepz !)

morning ladies!
Just popping in before my wkend away with DH! our 1st anniversary! Leaving DD for the 1st time (shocking really as shes 3 1/2!)
Thanks for all welcoming me too
I'm going to purchase some digital ovulation kits me thinks as I'm not convinced by my post MC cycle!

Good luck for everyone this month!

hmmmm CD14 and the monitor hasn't even gone to high yet but my CM is very EW and I had cramps all day yesterday so normally I would have suspected OV, last month my Persona said I was OV CD15 and 16 so maybe I am going to go from nowhere to peak, or maybe will be later this month? Bit confused as would have expected to see some high action

Maybe the cramps and ewcm have been meaning I have been thinking its been happening earlier than I thought ... will have to wait and see

I am thinking I should also trust my instinct and take a punt on tonight anyway if nothing else it might even be fun!!

cake hope you are having a fine weekend.

cheepz Hmm that must be confusing! I think I remember that it's your first cycle with the CBFM? Just because TFLS too had difficulties the first time round and apparently that's quite normal. So I'd trust your instincts and your CM!
At the end of the day, if you find out that you ovulate later than you thought, well that's what using such a monitor (or temp charting) is all about. I mean, if you'd find out that you have been BDing at the right time all along, you could have saved yourself the money, no? But if your monitor/chart tells you something new, like, "oh actually I tend to ovulate two days earlier/later than I always thought" it will actually help you improve your chances to conceive and then it would have been worth every penny!

Anyway, BD for the fun of it can't be too bad either!

Saturday's list:

Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD39
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 2 CD33
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 6 CD30
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 6 CD24
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 1 CD21
boodleboot TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 1 CD17
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD14
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD?+6
CakeandFineWine TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 1 CD4
Jollster TTC#2 Cycle 2 (after MMC Aug) UCL 26-33?! CD4
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 5 CD3
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 4 CD3

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA (stopped at CD60)
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD60
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD60

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September
Chamois BFP 7th October
MrsRigby BFP 11th October

we are going to see SIL and 3 day old baby tomorrow. I am so [envy} and especially since I just had to go and but incredible sweet small new baby clothes .... [sigh]

I can't even do my emoticons right .....

oh cheepz I know exactly how you feel...

a close friend of mine is now pg (but I am really pleased for her as it was her last chance - last of the frozen egg supply) and another friend has just announced it on FB though only 8 weeks.... eeek!

Then last week a mum at a group we go to was suddenly obviously pregnant and when asked when due, she said first week of March. "Your scan must be this week I blurted out" without thinking. "Yes you're right" she said with a look that said how DO you know that...well of course I knew that .

It seems very tough... we will get there

Hi All hope everyones well.Not much to report here busy week at work, busy weekend.Not managed any BD since day 16 due to a nasty bout of candida!!!! Urgh!!!! sore [tmi]!!!!

Ran out of ovulation sticks last week think i ll stop using them as puts too much pressure on performing on certain days .New plan to bd every 2-3 days through my cycle, once everythings settled down of course!!!!

Will be glad when 5th November been and gone i ve got 2 cats and they hate all the noise.

Me and DH starting to talk about adoption now as our local social services are appealing for "potential" adoptees!!!! for children aged between 1-6 .This is a step forward as hes always said a definate NO to adoption in the past but i think hes thinking along my lines here we are 2 years down the line and no further forward!!!!

Have a good weekend

CBFM peak today - no higs no warning just wam - peak. Ties in with Persona last month which showed little egg symbol on CD15.So it looks like CD 15 is my day.

DH was on top form last night, which, since it still said Low on CBFM was alot more fun for me as I was thiking - 'want to have hot sex with dh' rather than 'hope this one makes a baby'

Now have to address trying to get dh all fired up again tonight without being too much 'look todays the egg day' about it. But given last nights marathon he will sus me right away.

(for newbies to this thread thinking what planet is she on I try not to make it too clear to dh when its a 'honey honey I'm ovulating day' as oppose to a - 'I'm horny so lets get down and dirty day')

2 days in a row will mean the game is up!

Still am pretty chuffed that what I was feeling yesterday - ie that I was sure ovulation would be soon, was right - have at least been reading my body right.

Anyway, off to SIL soon, feeling better about it today - waiting is worse.

Ah cheepz can't you just do a "how great was that yesterday, let's do that again" kind of thing?
Also, BD on CD14 when ovulation is on CD15 is already excellent chances! Huh, I have a good feeling for things for you this month already!

louise we've been thinking/talking about adoption, too. I find the process very daunting, though. My DP and me have been saying that we'd love providing a home and a family for a "hard to place" child - we wouldn't want to go for a baby. On the one hand because there tend to be long waiting lists for babies, on the other hand because these "hard to place" kids really deserve a home too and are the most likely to end up spending their whole childhood in care, which is so sad. So we've been thinking about adopting an older child, or perhaps a sibling-pair. Wouldn't it be lovely? But then - the idea of suddenly having a (say) 5-year-old living with us, I don't know - it's frightening, too.
I find the idea itself, of having kids, quite daunting sometimes. But then if you have your own, I suppose you sort of grow into it. But when you adopt - an older child, or a pair of siblings - it's from zero to 100 without any adjusting time in the middle... scary scary. Still, we are seriously thinking about it.
Wondering what your thoughts on the matter are?

goodmorning lovely ladies

well me and DH made love last night and it was delightful and unprotected as CD18. That is the deal with him until christmas eve. That we can make love unprotected but taht it can't be during my peak ovulation times...must be totally honest tho, whilst i believe i ovulated last sun/mon/tues time as thats when the EWCM and mittelschmertz was ripest there is a huge bit of me that is secretly hoping a rogue egg was flying around waiting to be fertilised last night...

mind you i think given what we are up against i think we all know its just not going to be that easy BUT i guess you never know....at least i am on a 2ww now....a very weak, totally far fetched and utterly unrealistic 2ww but heh, i didn't think i would make it to this point a couple of months ago.

I have started my counselling this week about the loss we have experienced this year. I think it will be quite useful. It is my due date on fri for the MMC in apr. Gotta be got through i guess. not looking forward to it....

really hoping that we get some BFP's this month....

cheepz - how was the new baby? are you ok?

hi ladies

am fine - seeing other new baby was wierdly not as bad as having to buy cute baby clothes

we did manage to bd last night although not entirely sure we ran to completion if you know what i mean - sorry if tmi but sometimes i am not entirely sure and you never want to ask, and of course because we are not suposed to be focussing on the day I especially can't ask?! Seems bonkers when I want to be pregnant so much but at the same time I don't want it to be a grim experienbce for dh with too much pressure. Now its been a few cycles I am feeling less desparate oddly and a little more like 'my time will come', as you say meita a really good shag on CD14 with ov on CD15 is good going and who knows

With DS I knid of knew when I was pg from the very next day - just felt it, even though I didn't know how it felt. With the MC I didn't have that feeling post conception, so it was a surprise when I found out I was pg. Today I have been feeling abit more like it was the first time, cramps and twinges in my tum and so on - but I am scared to read too much into it in case its still ov cramps and I have ov'd late and so we have missed the boat again.

Anyway - how is everyone else, lets have some updates - mrs r, tfls, apples, chamo ... how is everyone?

Well, I believe AF is straggling in through the door - busting her way in for the dreaded visit again this month
WHYYY???!!!

Boodle - glad to see you've turned a corner and are practically ttc again - lots of positive vibes being sent your way - you deserve it!

Cheepz, same to you lady. That's nice that you're feeling positive about the bd this month.

Hi again I'm back and just skimmed you messages {Whispers} I'm actually at work

So got a WTF period question.
AF arrived on 28th bled for one day bright red not a lot and then stopped suddenly.
Decided last night that maybe it was implantation bleeding did test this am BFN!
Then at lunch time today I've started bleeding again 4 days after it had stopped and now its more brown coloured and TMI alert smells like the blood from when I MC IYKWIM?
So do I now count today as CD1 or the 28th?
OMG I can't believe how much this MC has messed my body up? I just want to try again and don't know whether I'm coming or going?

Hi MEITA many, many thoughts on adoption.Next step for us we ve decided , is after xmas to make contact with our local adoption agency....and see what happens.

As i said we re quite happy to have a child, as opposed to a baby and after all a child,although adopted , is still a child and would be ours still.

Me and DH are working our way through any potential difficulties we can imagine and as i ve reassures DH i m sure there aren t any problems/dilemmas we ve got the adoption people haven t dealt with before....

As i said after 2 years kinda think it isn t going to happen any other way!!!

Just wondering if you have room for a newbie? I am on the august ttc bus.
TTC after 2 mc's this year feeling a bit low . My first mc i had a due date for the 17th this month but wasn't to be and mc at 10wks .Second mc only got to 5 wks. My sister is due 25th this month and i am having should of been me as well thought's. But it is great that i am going to be a aunt
That's the doom and gloom over This would be my 3 dc but my 2 sons are 16/13 so big age gap and almost feels like trying for first time.
Any way i hope you will let me join you all seem like lovely people

welcome bigmutha - i have a largish gap, mine are 12{DSD},10 and 5 and this will be my first with lovely new husband. Its much easier to go through the TTC with these ladies.....erm does that sound right??

cake - this is the whole frustration around TTC after MC....everything seems all over the place. I'm sure it will even out. after my MC in apr my period seemed to happen twice for the first month. it will sort itself out tho....

ah zayja - sorry to hear AF here...next month hun, onwards and upwards....x

Hi I'm a newbie and wondering WTF all these acronyms mean!! Found the very useful acronym list but what does UCL28 cycle 6 CD3 mean??

Hi runfor the hills nice to know not only newbie
ucl mean usual calendar lenght.
cycle how many cycle's you have been trying to concevie.
cd calendar day: how many days since your first day of your period.
So if you were trying to concevie your third child you have been trying for 3 cycles and your lenght of your cycle is 28 days and your period started 2 days ago your sats would be
ttc#3cycle3UCL28CD2
Hope this helps

cheepz good to hear you're going strong. I find seeing babies much better than looking at baby stuff in shops. After all, they're babies, it's not their fault it is not working for me. Though have recently learned my cousin is now expecting her second. They waited with telling us because they were hoping for some good news from us first. Well that didn't work out (though kind of them to think of it). I'm thinking their due date is probably close to when mine would have been, so not looking forward to that!

boodle you never know, do you! If chances are not so good, perhaps all the more finger-crossing is called for?

zayja

cake sorry for not being able to help. All I can say is that it passes. Not knowing your precise CD this time round, perhaps all the more reason for observing your CM/using OPK? Then try to BD whenever CM looks fertile or OPK shows +.

louise thanks for saying that: "nothing the adoption agencies haven't encountered before" - great thinking, hadn't occured to me! Stupidly I kept thinking "but what about this and what about that..." so, seriously, thanks! If you do get in touch with them in the new year, you might be about 2 months ahead of us - we decided to give it until end of February (and then discuss it again). I'm sure I'll be bothering you with thousands of questions if this actually happens!

welcome bigmuther! The buses are way to crowded for me - I much prefer this quieter, more intimate space. We actually get to discuss things here. Sorry to hear about your two MCs. I hope it works for you soon.
bigmuther and boodle sending you big hugs for dealing with MC-dd.

runfor I hope bigmuther's explanation helps. Just to add that in here, cycle 3 refers to the number of cycles since a miscarriage (MC). We call the first cycle, immediately after the MC, the wtf-cycle because everything is so unpredictable and confusing. Then the cycle starting with the first "real" period after the MC is cycle 1. Did you have a MC as well? If so, very sorry to hear it.

chamo, MrsRigby any news? I hope you are well and your beans too! How about our September-graduates, becky, LoM, viv and waiting? And, just out of curiosity, any earlier graduates?

apples, BB you are being conspicuously quiet. I hope that means good news! (I think we are def. due another BFP. It's been ages!)

leeWT are you still out there? How are you?

Wednesday's list:

Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD43
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 2 CD37
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 6 CD34
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 1 CD25
boodleboot TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 1 CD21
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD18
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD?+10
CakeandFineWine TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 1 CD8
Jollster TTC#2 Cycle 2 (after MMC Aug) UCL 26-33?! CD8
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 5 CD7
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 4 CD7
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 7 CD2

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA (stopped at CD60)
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD60
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD60

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September
Chamois BFP 7th October
MrsRigby BFP 11th October

AF today thats a 25 day cycle!!!! I think thats my WTF cycle, although it is my 2 nd following my MC.

It does bring me back in to line though as its 8 weeks today since the surgery for my MC

Hope everyone else is well this weathers soo ccrap!!!! I hate winter....