TTC #4 - Join the madness... If you dare!!

[babyblue3]

Ok Ladies... new thread, since the old one was getting too long and dragging my computer (and Kat's) down with it!

MrsD - cant believe you are 30 weeks already! So you found that cutting out the lactose helps? It will be almost a week for me and I have noticed some improvement, but not a lot. Of course, he is still getting a milk-based formula supplement to the BFing. I am going to switch to a soy formula and see if it makes a difference as well. Until then... God give me strength!!! LOL

scorps, you have been through so much already this pregnancy! You will bond with your little baby, just right now you have so much on. Things will be easier when baby is here and you can move on emotionally whatever that may mean. Is he still at home? I hope he's behaving. ((((((((((((((((((massive hugs to you))))))))))).

Kat, you will be fine!!!!! I know how you feel, the first 12 weeks are horrid!

Baby blue, sleep is a luxury in my house too (hugs).

Redtent hiya! Welcome! Good luck ttc!

Well update here.....in a week my hcg level has dropped in total from 343 to 323!!! Not good! The consultant beleives me when I say I have passed what was there but he has to check for ectopic....so another EPU trip next tuesday morning. Probably more bloods and a scan.
As for ttc, I have no idea what I want to do. I've had a job offer and I really want to take it, the longing for a baby is strong too but I am 28, I can probably afford to wait. Arrgghhhhh! I could do the job while pg, that's not a problem but I'd like to give it my all. Hmmmmmm. Dh said let's just ride with it and 'see what happens..........I'll interpret that as he wants a good sex life lol!

Scorps - I found getting attached to ds 3 hard as I'd had a m/c a few months before I fell pregnant with him. Even right up to his birth being pregnant had felt very surreal. Once he was born though- wow I felt so strongly about him!

Sorry to hear about the hcg level Means - I hope the dr's sort you out. I'm fairly new in my current job (12 months) and I ummed and ahhed about how I would cope with the job (big reponsibility) and pregnancy plus then an extra child.... Dh and I came to the conclusion that no time is right and if it's what we want then we had to go for it.... we do however know we're entitled to Maternity rights etc...or else I'd have waited a bit. DH idea is fairly good...and if you did move job it's not long before you do have better maternity entitlements

Well I think I've O'd ...about 2 days ago. Hugely achey tummy and trying to ignore it!! I'm going to try and not test until at least 9dpo..and if I can distract myself 10 dpo. I've got BFP's with all but one pregnancy at that stage.

It's never worked first try before though so I'm trying not to get my hopes up this month...

Meansbeans - sorry to hear that you are m/c'ing. You are in my thoughts. When you are ready perhaps you should go with the dh's idea of "see what happens" and enjoy ! But right now I hope that things proceed smoothly for you.

Redtent - I am at ov-time too right now, and a bad early tester, so we will have to see if either of us can wait to 10dpo!!!!

Sweetkitty - how did the scan go today?

how is everyone else?

update, feel free not to read, you must all be fed up of my saga by now
Back from the EPU....AGAIN!!!!

I poas and it was still positive so went in for a scan. Changes have happened. My endometrium lining has increased from 13mm to 19mm and I now have what they call a cystic sac in my womb....they can't say if it's a gestational sac or not. But it is consistent with a 5 week pregnancy.
The sac looked black with a white bit in it, the measurements were 4mmx4mm.

I was then told that it could be an early pregnancy but my progesterone is so low and my bloods aren't increasing. They also said that in an ectopic sometimes a sac also forms in the womb. The nurse said that sometimes miracles happen, she doesn't want to get my hopes up as the pregnancy probably isn't viable but I haven't miscarried yet and I need more bloods on tuesday and possibly more scans etc. They can't discharge me from the EPU.

If my hormone level isn't changing how can my endometrium have thickened and a sac magically appeared! I'm mind screwed!!!!!!!!!! The nurse didn't get it either. The sonographer couldn't see any other signs of an ectopic.

This is not great for my state of mind! Just needed to vent somewhere thanks for reading.

My emotions and state of mind are all over the place tonight. The sonographer didn;'t see any other signs of an ectopic and I have no pain at all (apparently I should by now). I'm so confused right now.

How's everyone else? Any plans for the weekend? I need to make this weekend go quickly I might take the kids somewhere nice.

Meansbeans - oh no, not more mind-bending waiting. It sounds more hopeful than not today, but I can understand if you are just feeling confused. I hope you find some fun things to do with your kids to distact yourself this weekend.

Means - How odd! Not helpful for you at all . Doesn't sound ectopic though. Has anyone said about a Molar pregnancy? Just wondering, i know that makes pg like symptoms, HcG and a sac, but there is never a 'baby' iyswim.

I'm 27+2 today

Scxorps, I asked the registrar that, tyhey said no chance as if it was molar the hcg would be ridiculously high.

I'll know more tuesday.

Hi
Can i join please ???
Have dc 16 13 and 3 - dh finally agreed i can go for no. 4 which i always wanted.
Everyone will think i`m completely barmy but i dont care- i love it !
Had my mirena out 3 weeks ago and enjoying practicing big time becausemy sex drive is slowly returning since my coil came out - hooray !
I have some health issues inc high bp and gynae probs requiring op and hysterectomy so have put it off in hope dh would agree to no 4 before its all whipped out!

Am nervous and excited.

x

Means - so sorry you are going through all this drama! Hopefully it all works out in the end. A MC is bad enough without having to deal with all the questions going on in your head. I can't imagine that your HCG levels could go down with a healthy pregnancy, (not to be negative) so what are your docs hoping to find?

Blondie - welcome to the madness. Good luck with TTC #4!! My DC4 will be 2 months old tomorrow and its utter chaos in my house. But I wouldn't trade it for the world

So I am soooo proud of DS1 and DD1!! They competed in their first Triathalon this weekend and did wonderfully! Both were brilliant! (sorry... mummy gush moment ) I cried like a baby as they crossed the finish line. If they were any older, they would have probably turned back around and ran in the opposite direction out of sheer embarrassment!! LOL (pics up on FB of course!)

How are all the preggies feeling?? Any strange cravings this time around?? I think the strangest thing I ever craved was artichokes! And now DS1 loves them! LOL. It was even the last thing I ate before I gave birth to him. Too funny.

I cant believe Marco is going to be 2 months already tomorrow! He goes for his first set of jabs on Thursday. DH will be taking him cuz I really don't want to hear the screaming that will surely be unleashed after he is stuck!! I had enough with the colic to last a lifetime! I am just glad the colic seems to be done and that he is a much happier baby now. The next sound I want to hear is his first laugh. Soon...

Means - hope you had a good distracting weekend.

Blondie - welcome to the madness from me too. I am post-ov horrible wait time at the moment, but not expecting much this time. Did you concieve your other children fairly easily or did it take time?

babyblue - wow marco two months already, time flies by sometimes. Good to hear that the colic phase is over.

redtent - no poas yet, it is too early

Hi Blondie, we are all nutters here (with no ts )

Babyblue - you lot are very sporty, you are always talking about your running on FB! Well done you and your dc! I am in awe , runs at 2 months postnatal indeed Though i am hoping to go back Thai Boxing after the baby, after about 8-10 weeks.

Means - Hope you get some answers.

I'm doing ok, haing some good days now, not all bad or clouded over by that. I have MW on Wednesday so will talk to her about baby fears.

with no tvs i meant

Any news yet Means???

Anyone here use Bio-Oil on their scars and have noticed a difference?? I had hernia surgery last year and the doc left a really unsightly scar above my belly-button. Its red and raised and looks awful in a bikini . Have been using the Bio-oil, but it does not seem to be helping. Just wondering if I should try one more bottle before giving up.

Sorry I've taken so long to update, I didn't get home until 1.30pm and then I couldn't face the computer.

Went in for bloods at 9am. A vampire stabbed both of my arms and nothing came out! The plan was just to give me bloods so I begged for a scan, the sister wasn't keen. In the meanwhile I went to the antenatal clinic to try bloods again. Yet again I got stabbed twice and no blood. By this point I was sobbing and taken back up to the EPU.

I then poas which was still positive and the sister agreed to get me scanned. The sonographer informed me that the scan was pointless as she didn't expect to see a change in 4 days. I've had bleeding so to me it wasn't pointless, I wanted to see if there was a change. There wasn't a change I still have a thickened endometrium and a cystic sac.

I then had a chat with the sister and between her and Chris I was bullied into bloods in outpatients. I was stabbed 3 more times (hand as well this time) and then she finally tried my right arm again and after a bit of wiggling the needle about she got some blood. I have never been so traumatised. I left with big black mascara eyes and sunglasses.

The results have been processed as urgent and I just had a call to say they are now at 687. They have said it's not impossible that it's a viable pregnancy but they would have liked to have seen the level at 1300.

Had they decreased I'd have been left alone, had they been 300 ish still then I'd have had the ectopic shot....but now I don't know what to do. It probably is ectopic but what if...........what if it was twins and one level declined while another was on the rise?????????

I have spoken to the registrar and as long as I am not in any pain he is happy to see me on thursday morning for more bloods. If they don't rise by 2/3 then I'm in for the injection. I'm scared, I don't know what to think or what to do. I know the sister wants me in for the injection now. Why is it never straightforward! No doubt if I have that chemo drug injection I will have to stop breastfeeding Isabella and I won't have a baby bump either so I'll be pretty upset. Talk about a double whammy.

I think that's it.

Meansbeans , so sorry to hear you are still having a rough time. I think that you are doing the right thing (not that it matters what I think really). It is well documented that not all pregnancies follow the same pattern and neither do miscarriages. I think it is a bit premature for them to be suggesting inducing a miscarriage as they have seen there is a sac in the womb, and therefore the chance of there being a second one being an ectopic is not very high. If you don't have pain, then it is surely ok to continue for a while, and see what happens. I am not sure if I am entirely appropriate in suggesting a look atthis website which shows that sometimes very low and slow rising hcg, does produce a healthy baby. So don't be pushed into something that you are not happy with, especially if it is going to interrupt your feeding Isabella too and that would upset you as well. Thinking of you at this tough time.

Babyblue - sorry never used bio-oil!

Sweetkitty - any news from you????

Means - I can't believe you are going through this. Limbo is the worst place to be. Hopefully everything will sort itself out real soon, and you can move on... in whichever direction you may have to go. I totally agree about not letting anyone push you into something you may not be ready for. I would think that as long as you are not in any danger health wise, a wait and see approach may not be a bad thing. I would not want them destroying a viable pregnancy just because my little bean has chosen to develop a little slower than what they would like. My thoughts are with you and I am sending all the strength I can muster as well

Means - i too think you're doing the right thing. If they can't tell you for sure if its a viable pg or not, or a twin loss or not, then you are doing right to see what happens in nature, iyswim.

I had MW today, am 27+5 and am measuring 29 weeks. Maisie Baby is head down too, but i know that counts for nothing yet! I am happy, cos i was very worried about the stress on her but she seems to be growing and happy, and thats all i care about.

I have changed the last week or so; i can't wait to get her, because then the world will be right. iyswim.

And Sweetkitty i know you're here! How are you?

Hiya guys

Mean so sorry to hear you'rew still in limboland but pleased to hear there is still hope for you, it's not much fun when you don't know where you're at though xxx

Scorps - love the name

Well I have news, I had some spotting and cramping at the weekend so managed to get myself in for a scan. Went today and saw my beautiful splodge and a heartbeat! So relieved and feeling much more positive

Waves to everyone else

Oh a splodge How far along is Splodge?

Kat congrats on your splodge, lovely news. .

What a day! I've had such a hard few weeks. Last night I was in bed and the pains on my right hand side were making me panic and I made the decision to have the injection to end tubal pregnancies.

We went to the ward tonight, I signed the consent forms and read the info leaflets. I hadn't read them until now and I knew reading them that this pg is ectopic. The one symptom that rang massive alarm bells to me was the irregular bleeding like prune juice. That is so unbeleivably accurate. The aching on my right hand side has been consistent since sunday, slowely getting worse. I just couldn't wait worrying when I would rupture. The registrar said he was releived that I'd changed my mind (changed my mind twice today lol).

I'm feeling better now that I can draw a line under this, I still have a long way to go with blood tests to see if the injection has worked. I hope so.

I'm truly devastated that I now have to stop breastfeeding Isabella but I've done 20 months and I'm so proud of that. I loved it while it lasted and so did she.

Thankyou to everyone here who's offered me so much support and kind thoughts.

I'm ok now, still smiling, I love my family and realise how lucky I am to have what I do have. I will always wonder what might have been in May 10 but I know it was never meant to be for us.

Sorry for the essay. Just bloods then 3 months off before we can even consider ttc again, nothing like an ectopic to put you off lol. I hope you girls won't mind me staying here and chatting.

Means - so good that you have been able to finally drawn a line under it all. And you did well with feeding Isabella for 20 months, she will probrably miss it to start with as will you, but it is great that you had such a time with her. I hope the injection works for you and that this is all over quickly, it is strange how instinct is important in these situations. And of course you must stay here chatting, we need you.

Kat - I am grinning with excitement over your splodge's heartbeating away.

Suze, I wrote you out a long reply and then my stupid laptop switched itself off

Anyway you seem very together and happy with your decision. I'm pleased for you although still sad for you too...

My 1st m/c baby would have been due in August and the second this week! It's always at the back of my mind but I don't dwell on it too much, it's more a case of 'what if' but I have this new bean to think about now and you will too.

Thanks for your well wishes, I too can't stop grinning

Means - So sorry for what you are going through, but at least now you have closure. Give yourself some time to heal. In the meantime, you are now part of our Mad Virtual Family so you can't leave!! Then, when you are ready, we will be here to cheer you on for baby #4!

Kat - Woot Woot for your little Splodge and its heartbeat! Brings me to tears just thinking about it! Its still so fresh in my mind... the spotting and cramping and then seeing Marco's HB for the first time at 9 weeks. Its so comforting. I still have the scan pic taped to my refrigerator! Am very pleased for you!!!

Hi girls, I'm doing ok...so upset about the breastfeeding, feel angry that I've had to stop before either of u are ready too.....but on the other hand I just hope I'm safe now. Ups and downs.

Right now the thought of ttc scares me, I can't for 3 months anyway because of the chemo drug. I might feel different in 3 months and I won't have the breastfeeding issue to worry about either. I will panic about more ectopics though.

How's everyone doing? When is the next baby due on this group?