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[BuckyAndCocktails]

New thread girlies....running out of credit on the stupid hotel internet connection...so can't say anything..duh..

[higs]

hello ladies

Have a lovely weekend everyone . Hope it is not too rainy where you are. I am off to my friend's wedding in Scotland and back on Monday, so will check in with you all when I get back. Hopefully, the distraction of a wedding will make the 2WW pass a bit quicker, because it's currently going at glaciation pace . My test date is next Thursday, but after a comparison of the dates from cycle #1 (EC and transfer were the same as last time - Tues and Fri) I it was to test on a Tuesday . I am wondering if testing on Tuesday counts as testing early...?

take care,
GGx

Morning everyone,

Got to be quick as am mega busy but realised my message from the other day didn't post (grr) - just wanted to congratulate Caitni on such a succesful first scan Am truely chuffed for you and DH.

In Bad Mood today as wonder drug clomid did not do its wonder drug stuff as af arrived this morning. Am actually really - for the past 6 months (probably longer) I haven't been all that surprised that af showed up, this time its a kick in the teeth.

Ah well.... best go - apologies not to say hi to all, will be back later after work

x

Hello everyone

Sorry for not posting for a while... have been a little busy...

Have only scanned the thread, but -

Caitni Congratulations!!!! Am so happy for you. You are pregnant!!! Hope DH is better now.

GG Am really excited to hear that you have 2 little passengers on board. I have everything crossed for you (now i can cross things again). Can't wait for you to test next week.

Well, things are ticking along nicely here. Sorry i was unable to get on MN to let you all know. I tried and tried, and couldn't, but managed to get a message on FB, so a big thank you to GG for letting you all know. Friday went really well. The whole cs went very smoothly. DH watched the whole thing. . The boys were born at 10.34 & 10.35, and weighed 6lb 15 & 5lb 10, so they were right to be concerned all along about "no. 2" or Joel, as i should now call him, as he was considerably smaller (but no less gorgeous ). Joel was quite poorly on saturday, with a very low blood sugar, and there was talk of SCBU etc, but by sunday morning he was much, much better, and we got home sunday evening. We are now just enjoying having them here, and the days are just flying by. I am realy, really well, and feel much better than i did in the last weeks of pregnancy.

I promise to get some photos on here really soon, and hopefully be around to chat! Sorry i haven't really caught up on everyones news, but lots of love to you all, and thank you so much for supporting me along this whole journey - each and every one of you has helped make this dream come true for us.

Afternoon ladies

MOB I was welling up reading your post . It's so wonderful to hear that the CS went so smoothly and your two boys are home and doing well. Your DH must be so excited as well! How are your older DC taking to their two new wee brothers? It must have been worrying when Joel had a dip on Saturday but am glad all is well with him now . You'll have your hands full with two babies but hope you still find time to pop in and let us know how things are going! And I can't wait to see pictures .

PnM so sorry to hear your period arrived - it must be gutting for you. How many more months are you going to take the Clomid for? And, sorry if you've mentioned this, but are you being monitored to make sure you're ovulating with scans or day 21 tests? I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for the next month of Clomid xxx

MrsH thanks for your reassurance re the lack of MS. Seeing the little bean has made me more relaxed about it. Now just frantically knocking wood that I manage to avoid MS entirely! How are you feeling? I'm glad you're only working 4 day weeks as it must be knackering! Though I bet it helps the time to pass, which must be good.

GG sorry to hear that time has slowed right down for you - the bloody TWW grrr. Though it's great you're off up to the North of Scotland for some winter sports wedding fun . It'll keep you both relaxed and happy and it's so good that you didn't have to miss this because of treatment. I may be being dorky but are you saying that based on your last cycle Tues should be your test day? Tues would be 14 days exactly past your EC wouldn't it? I was told to test 14 to 16 days post-EC and tested 14 days exactly...so, er, if I were you I reckon I'd be peeing on some sticks on Tues morning! But then I was actually too chicken to test early so if you want to wait until Thurs then that's OK too . Keeping my fingers firmly crossed regardless.

JB have super fun at the seaside next week - am well . Hope you've got your buckets and spades packed . Hope your DD enjoys it (and doesn't get too much sand in her nappies!).

DigiGirl how cool that your little man is going to be one so soon! And good luck with the controlled crying - I know next to nothing about it but if it works for you then that would be brilliant . It would be so exciting if you started ttc number two soon (no pressure ).

Ei hope things are good with you and you're still buoyant from your good appointment last week .

Waves to Bucky and RFN2&3

Thanks for all your congrats on the scan - still very happy about it (and still obsessively staring at the pictures ). Things grand with me - my patient at home is recovering well from the flu and is now working from home. Though he's still in the spare room and we're both using antispetic wipes/hand rub all the time but I'm feeling pretty chipper and hoping I manage to avoid it. Just wish time would speed up a bit as got my booking in app through from the hospital (not until 23 Aug) and my 12 week scan date, which will be when I'm actually 13 weeks exactly. Seems like aaaaaaages away. I'll be staring at my scan pictures for some more weeks I reckon. We've got a couple of weekends away to Sweden and Ireland between now and then so hoping time passes reasonably quickly.

Hi all x x

MOB big big big congratulations on the safe arrival of your 2 boys glad to hear that things are going well and that you are enjoying them so much x

Caitni So happy that your little bean is doing well and those weeks will be here before you know it Glad you are not suffering ms at the moment and hope it continues (I have had none in either pregnancy)

PnM sorry the witch got you how many more months of clomid have you got?

GG have got my fingers tightly crossed for you, hopefully those beans are burrowing in nicely x x

waves to EI JB DG and anyone else I have missed x

Well I am 34 weeks exactly today and saw the consultant this morning,she did a scan and both babies are head down and doing well, they are estimated at 5lb 9oz and 5lb 3oz which I believe is good for twins at this stage.
I am finding it quite hard now so she is
going to see me in 2 weeks and see if I am looking favourable and will consider inducing at 37 weeks if I am.
It seems quite a long way away but also very close iykwim lol

MrsH Hope work isnt tiring you out too much and that the little courgette is letting you get plenty of rest

Morning all,

Have a spare few mins so thought I'd try and catch up properly.

Firstly I need to apologise to JB cos I really did mean to try and meet up with you in Manchester on this last visit. It was impossible though as was pretty much either working or sleeping the whole time (and in a pretty bad mood as the store I was sorting out had some 'issues'). Anyway, I'm intending on revisiting at Christmas so hopefully we can meet then! Hope you have a fab time away next week and that the sea has warmed up sufficiently for DD to dip her toes again!

How are you feeling Caitni? I bet those scan pictures are close to hand all the time! 23rd August does seem like a long time away so hopefully those weekends in Sweden and Ireland will help in passing the time. As an aside, how is your veg coming along?? I have cucumbers coming out my ears (not literally of course) at the moment - they just seem to keep growing! Luckily I love cucumber!

So lovely to hear from you DG and to hear how well DS is doing I am genuinely that he's going to be one next month - when did that happen?!!

How's the courgette doing MrsH? Hope the job isn't too stressful for you and that you're getting to grips with it all. How have you got on with your midwives recently?

Hope the weekend in Scotland goes well GG and that DH remembers to omit the G from the G&T when getting you a drink at the wedding! Keeping all fingers, toes etc crossed for you regardless of what day you decide to test.

R4N2&3 that souonds like a great weight for both the twins at this stage. I can only imagne how far away 3 weeks feels like when your feeling the strain a bit. Hope you're able to get some rest in before the big day!

How are you doing Bucky?? How is work going at the moment? Sounded busy if 3 of your team are on holiday all at once! Hope its not too stressful for you.

Well done MOB for finding the time to post!! It sounds like you're totally in love wth J and T although bit of a scary time for you at first with J. And yay for you feeling a bit more human now! Enjoy this truely special time - you and your family really deserve it.

Are you still feeling nice and positive Ei? How's the diet going? I start mine again this week so maybe we should be diet buddies !

Now I have written far too much and somehow wasted an hour doing so (the joys of working from home).

Am attempting to feel upbeat and positive today as yesterday I was awful, I genuinely haven't been that upset about ttc for months. Think I had put too much faith into clomid. I've been told not to take it this month (one month on, one month off) but I thought it was supposed to build in your system? Best stick to the plan though. I had no monitoring this month (probably why they wanted me to take it every other month, so they didn't have to scan me) so no idea if it worked, I do know that this is a horrendously painful and heavy period though although that may just be coincidence.

Anyway.

Hope you're all doing ok on a drizzly Friday
x

Hello all

Well I've been sulking, hence my lack of posting...I'll have my winge shortly but first:

Caitni great news re scan. Glad you are feeling more relaxed now.

MOB . Again really great to hear from you and that things went smoothly. Bless ickle pocket baby Joel, bet they are both gorgeous indeed.

MrsH You need one of ergonomic chair things, you know the ones that look like this. . Take it easy lady. I diagnose Mr Kipling French Fancies for medicinal purposes until the discomfort passes.

GG Wait till Thursday chica so that you can cheer me up while I am wailing about how traumatised I am by my HSG
Oh and DG might be coming too...Anyone else who is around on Thursday lunchtime and wants to come along for lunch let us know.

RFN2&3 Hope you don't find the next two weeks too punishing. I guess all you can do is focus on your new bundles of fun that will be arriving before you know it. x

PicknMix Lets kick AF in the goulies...stupid witch. I got more painful periods with the Clomid too so I don't think it is a coincidence. That's kind of what I meant when I said it exaggerates all the parts of my cycle, so I get loads more EWCM and I really feel ov and then AF is horrid.

Ok well, me, I am fcked off...excuse my foul mouth. I went for hospital 'sign the forms' appointment and instead they told me that St Albans hadn't given me my results (apparently I have pelvic adhesion..cue Googling...) and I haven't had an HSG (even though I thought they did one when they did my lap and dye), and my LSH was low on my Day 3 test so they want to do that again too. Consequently, my form filling is now delayed ANOTHER month and I have MORE freaking tests to have. I asked if they couldn't just fill in the forms and I could have the tests while I'm waiting for my name to come up and was told in no uncertain terms...NO. So Bucky is peed off...in fact I may change my name to BuckyIsBeyondFckedOff.

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Oh Bucky

Thats truely shit of them. I take it you haven't been given any indication why none of this had been followed up previously? Why were you not told that your fsh was low and that you hadn't had an HSG at the same time as lap and dye?! That's crazy behaviour, even for the NHS.

I'd be inclined to push forward an official complaint against them for that.

Did they give you dates for when the new tests will be carried out?

Whats this about a pelvic adhesion? Did they give you any indication of what the adhesion was?

I'm guessing its of no comfort to you but at least its 'only' one month to wait - I know for a fact in my PCT there would be another 6 month wait to see someone.

Massive to you x

Bucky at the cock up re test results. Sorry to hear you've been bumped back another month and sorry to hear they've just told you about pelvic adhesions - WTF does that mean and why have you only just heard??!? And at a low FSH result - that's the result we all want with FSH tests so why on earth would it be a problem? Why oh why are fertility staff sent to try us so?

The HSG is very straightforward though, and I say that as someone who had a stupid registrar who couldn't get the damn catheter through my cervix so the whole thing took ages (should only take minutes).

PnM glad to hear you've got cucumbers out the ears . Our courgettes have gone all moody (we've got them in pots and I think the pots, despite being massive looking by my standards, are in fact too small) so are only churning out one or two courgettes a week, which is actually just about all the courgettes we want anyway so am . Carrots still growing away (man, they take months to grow! Think our soil is particularly rubbish ). We managed one pod of peas - people kept telling me "ooh peas are so easy" but only one plant has managed to get to the stage of producing one solitary pod . And tomoatoes are finally ripening up - had the first cherry toms last night .

Pelvic adhesion is when your organs are stuck together as a result of scarring caused by inflamation at some time. . Consequently, apparently my ovary/ies, (not sure what exactly is stuck) may not flap around as much and catch the eggs as efficiently, as they/it is stuck to my bowel. Nice....Obviously Matthew McConaughey is not going to select me to be his next baby's mother now as I am deficient....

Bucky, Matthew McConaughey was never going to select you to be his next baby's mother as he's already asked me to be.

Did I not mention that before? I'm sure I did, maybe I should be more clear and change my name to MrsMcConaughey....

Oh, and more importantly, wrt the pelvic adhesions - I'm hoping they're going to give you a proper diagnosis? Thats not something they can just drop into conversation - surely they need to explain it properly to you so you know exactly what is going on??

Step away from google for now though please.

Can't believe they just dropped that into conversation with you Bucky - shocking. I agree with PnM to step away from google but know how hard that can be [higs] to you m'dear.

PS isn't Matthew McConnagaughey gay? That perfume ad he does is just about the gayest advert I've ever seen, though he is a tasty piece of work...

A quick one because I am trying to get a very tired DD to stay awake for dinner, bu Bucky, it seems v odd to me that they have diagnosed adhesions from a scan when your lap and dye revealed no such thing. A laparoscopy would, I think, be the best way to spot adhesions so that is odd.

Anyhoo, I would check they were looking at the right file. T'would not be the first time the NHS had fucked up something like that...

Mrs H it was the lap and dye that ascertained the adhesions, they just never told me! Hammersmith read my notes out to me.

Oh and Matthew is most certainly not gay LOL. He is manliness personified.

Have I killed the thread?

hello all.

Ha, I've stumbled on the is "Matthew McWhatshiname gay?" thread . I'm with MrsH and sitting in the "He definitely likes boys and perfume too much" camp (no pun intended ) and assumed he liked boys I won't be flighting PnM and bucky for him!

MOB!! - you managed to get 5 mins away from your gorgeous boys to see us. Please keep posting when you get a rare 5 mins. We'd miss you too much and, frankly, i won't let you stay away from us. I need you to be my inspiration

Picknmix _ I am sooo for you that your period arrived. It's utter shit - a red kick in the teeth every month, which screams "You are not pregnant!!!" when you are doing everything you can and enduring clomid's little tricks on your system too. We're all here for you so come and rant away here. Are you coming up to London soon? I am free for lunch every day and if you work form home, they won't miss you

Caitni - wow, I am impressed at your gardening success! Glad to hear that the MS is still holding off, which means that while not vomiting doesn't have the reassurance factor of feeling pregnant, can still only be a good thing. I have seeen one friend in particular sobbing and talking about wishing she had never got pregnant, she felt so awful.

I hope your DH is feeling completely well again soon. Have you seen the guidance that the NHS has released about PG women and swine flu? Apparently, they don't recommend travelling at rush hour to vaoid disease infested London Underground carriages, but not sure that will make any difference. It does mean you can get a lie in and leave work before the rish starts though . As for testing , my calculation for the test date was this Tuesday too - i.e. 14 days after EC and also that was the day they told me last time. DH is adamant that I shouldn't test early (and I agree), but I can't see how Tuesday would be testing early...?

Bucky - No, you didn't kill the thread I am back and posting now. I am still really at the manner that Hammersmith deliverered the information to you and also that St Albans didn't tell you that you had pelvic adhensions. Did they say whether they could have a material effect on you TTC? I am with PnM that maybe a threatened formal complaint might grease the wheels quicker and move you up the IVF queue? There seems to be sod all co-ordination between hospitals - my tests (only two months old) had to be repeated because Hammersmith were not sent some results by St Mary's Paddington. The doctors claimed it was easier to repeat the tests rather than try to extract my notes from a hospital in the same trust three miles away! Looking forward to lunch next week and great news that DG might come. If it's a BFN, you have to get me very drunk to take my mind off the horrid throught that I'll have to job hunt . I was sort of hoping a BFP meant I could put my feet up. Oh, and have a longed for baby of course All others welcome too of course!

jolly - another greenfingered thread member! LOL at your glut of cucumbers. Not the most exciting or versatile vegetable. You can make lots of tsatziki with them..?

readyFN2and3 - wooohooo, the twins are in the right place and head down!

Big wave to shreksmissus too. How are things with you?

DG - if you are looking in, I hope to see you this week for lunch with Bucky!

I'm back from Scotland and we didn't freeze, but it absolutely pissed it down for the wedding day, which was a terrible shame. The lovely bride and groom didn't manage a single photo in the stunning grounds or outside the university chapel. We had a ball thought and I even managed to get my Sassenach DH drunk enough to ceilidh a Dashing White Sergeant with a friend, while I sipped my regrettably fake G&T's . Bl**dy hell, aren't weddings different when you can't drink?! I am racking my brains to think whether I have been to one and been less than tipsy at the end of the night!

I have been distracted from PG testing by having a Bathroom Drama. The builders doing our bathroom managed to knock through a solid brick wall (how?) into our bedroom, effectibely creating an unwanted and unplanned en suite ) which means that we now have to get the bedroom replastered and redecorated too. I was horrified about it at first, but now I'm rather pleased at the idea I'm getting a shiny new bedroom too (the builders are going to do it all for free) So, I've been getting even more Stepford Wife and found myself mooning over Laura Ashley wallpaper and scatter cushions D'ya think this means I'm nesting?

Please keep posting to keep my itchy fingers typing and not unwrapping a Clearblue Digital to pee on
GGx

Afternoon ladies

GG am totally at your builders! What a ruddy hassle (though am secretly pleased you get a shiny new bedroom for the cost of the new bathroom ). It's the best way I've ever heard of for keeping distracted on the IVF tww . Glad you enjoyed the wedding, despite the lashing rain (and glad your DH got to kick up his heels Scottis-stylee ). I'm keeping my fingers firmly crossed for you whenever you decide to test - I've got a good feeling for you

I must say all the stuff about swine flu and pregnant women is starting to really annoy me. Like, er, OK, let's avoid crowds (so, erm, guess that means I can't go to work? Or anywhere in London for that matter as everywhere's crowed ). Or delay conceiving until it's over (er, OK NCT...let's all just wait for up to two years ). I think they should just be emphasising the hygiene and making people stay at home while sick/symptomatic (there are still "martyrs" coming into my workplace coughing and sneezing and sweating over everything - bugs the sh*t out of me!!). Luckily my patient is fully recovered and back at work today and I'm just glad I've managed to avoid it.

That's enough swine flu ranting from me . Hope everyone's well

Hello

I never said anything about Matthew whatshisname, but I vote not gay. He looks far too smelly for that. And doesn't he have a girlfriend and a baby? Not that that proves anything, but why would you bother going to such lengths these days? All you need is a few dates with the odd model to throw the paps off the scent...

GG is tomorrow test day? Good luck if it is. I don't think testing on the day you are first allowed to counts as testing early.

MOB I hope repeat motherhood is treating you well.

Caitni I am getting annoyed by the swine thing too. But what is annoying me is people saying "oh I felt soooo ill but I went into work...". I have had flu twice and neither time could I get out of bed, much less go into work. That's a cold, not the flu!

Bucky I am with Picknmix - that treatment deserves a letter of complaint. I do wonder wwhat the point of the clomid was if your innards need help first. It's shocking.

Picknmix I am sorry you had a tough time when your period arrived this time. Grrrr. And I hope you are feeling better now.

Not much news from here. I am stressing about money a bit but need to stop - it can't be doing the courgette any good! Am off to see my in-laws this weekend and then next week have a repeat scan to see if the courgette is now normal and a visit to the consultant to plead my case re going in the lovely cuddly birth centre and not the scary consultant-led-medical bit of the hospital. Let's hope that everything goes right for once. I can't believe how many shit things happened to DH and I in the last year - it's time for things to look up and for them to stay better!!

MrsH god, am totally with you on the cold/flu difference. I've also had flu twice and was knocked out for days (meaning lying in bed, unable to move/read/watch telly with awful aches and fever - barely remember them to be honest, as days passed in a blur). I really hope you get the nice birthing centre. You're right, you and your DH deserve some good fertility fortune (or rather, the good fertility fortune that gave you courgette from your tubeless side just needs to last long enough to give you your VBAC in the birthing centre ).

GG am thinking of you and sending you all the positive vibes I have if you test tomorrow

And a good night to everyone else. Am so knackered still I find it struggle to keep my eyes open this "late"

Morning all

Just a quick post from me. I tested this morning and.....

BFP (after a sneaky, early test with a BFN yesterday, slap wrist)

BUT - I'm spotting again Not as bad as last time, (it looks like brown, early period type blood and no violent cramps) but I am totally freaked out about it after last time. I'm counting down the minutes until I can get someone at the hospital at 8am to discuss. Possile impantation bleed I suppose, but terrifying none the less.

will check in later and sorry for the me me me post

GGx

Oh GG BFP . I'm very happy for you but I hope you've managed to speak to someone at HH re the spotting. Brown blood is generally old blood so generally OK and it's good that you're not cramping. They may just advise upping your dose of cyclogest. But in the meantime I'm keeping everything crossed that this little bean(s) is sticky and is just burrowing in nicely

Just a quick message because I'm a bit poorly at the mo but wanted to wish you the best of luck GG. A BFP is fantastic news but can understand your concerns. I hope you've managed to get through to someone at the hospital xx