Issys girls.....10 down, only 4 to go! :-)

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So here it is... our shiney new thread... hope you all see it soon or i will be here all on my own.

Oh dear what a frightening and sad week for lots of us.I'm so sorry Suzi,i know there aren't any words that I can say that can make you feel any better but I hope you are being kind to yourself.

girl fingers crossed for you that your scare is just that.

sunny so sorry about your FIL

I am really struggling in this heat with no fan at work - has made the sickness really bad again. REALLY hope it stops soon.

Hi to everyone else. I hope you are ok and I hope Issy is too - praps she stayed in Glasto!?!

thanks everyone for being so kind!! I am actually feeling okay!! Been keeping myself busy at work even though my dp thinks im crazy to even be working atm! It seems to help with getting back to normality. Ha i actually got a letter through today with my appointment date for the fertility clinic which i was organising before i fell pg, so might just attend and see what they say.

bubble sorry this wasnt your month but heres to the next

girl it sounds good that the spotting is subsiding and isnt getting any worse, i have my fingers crossed for you x

Thanks Suzi and sif, still spotting so called dr for referral to EPAU, they should be calling me back, i know they won't be able to do much as its so early, but I guess I am hoping for some reassurance...

suzi glad you are keeping busy, do whatever you feel is best, only you can judge what that is!

Sif sorry the heat is getting to you, think about my poor SIL, she is now 7 days past her due date, big as a house in this heat!! poor love!

I normally love this weather so it seems extra cruel that it just making me heave. Oh well. I can always find something to moan about!
Good luck with the EPU - they may start measuring your HCG or somfink.

Hi girls,

Quickie one from me as its bloody roasting here at the PC. I'm normally rucked into my dressing gown by 7pm but it would be like putting on a fur coat in the Sahara .

bubble - sorry to hear it didn't happen this month, maybe the clomid just needs a little time to bed in...

Suzi - good to hear from you and glad you're keeping busy, getting the appointment from the clinic gives you something to think about too.

girl - really hope you get an EPU appointment, like tomorrow! I had an internal scan with DS when I was 5+3 and saw the first flicker of a heartbeat then. Praying all goes well, its the waiting and worrying that's the worst part.

Off to squeeze in the freezer - I wish!

Hi ladies - just popping on to let you know that i had my 12 week scan today and it was BRILLIANT.

I now meausre 12 + 3 so have gained 4 days, although unlike blue I think it's right because I am sure i ovulated quite early. So EDD is now 12 Jan. It was just incredible to see what now looks like a proper little baby chilling out in my uterus like it was lying on a hammock. It even brushed its forehead like the heat was bothering him too! (can't help but think it's a boy so will ditch the it!) It's just amazing. I keep looking at the photos and welling up with love for this gorgeous amazing little thing.

I now weigh a couple more kilos than I did when I got preg despite having lost a couple, so I have gained very quickly. But then during the day when I can I eat the most extraordinary amounts of cheese, butter, white carbs and chocolate frappe thingies that are glorified milkshakes. (my new fave) oh and not forgetting the endless crisps. So I think as soon as the sickness ebbs I will focus on getting healthy again. I really hope it starts going now. Throwing up is just not even funny any more. not that it ever was but you know what I mean!

Anyway - SO sorry to those who are having a crap week. I really hope that things get better very soon. I hope that everyone else is doing well < waves to the whole posse>. As soon as I have finished one last work email I am going to watch the match (the best thing about the sickness is that I have become a total wimbledon afficionado)

CMON ANDY!!!!!

sifuents (I'll give you your sunday name as its such big news ) - that's just wonderful brilliant . at baby brushing his brow and I think you're having a boy too! You're only 3 weeks behind Head and me so there may be an overlap - how exciting!!!

My weight has started to creep up too and I've not been sick since Monday so been trying to have more soups and less white carbs .

Issy - really hope you're OK, if my memory serves me right you were getting a scan today? . Please let us know how you are.

Better dash, off home to watch Andy (he's a local lad you know from Dunblane, only 20 mins from me!).

Well it's all over for me, proper bleeding and very painful cramps, much worse than usual! Having a very large glass of wine!

Hello all,

girl I'm so sorry to hear your sad news The joy of this thread (unlike the monthly threads )is you don't have to duck out if you don't want to, please stick around with friends for some serious hand squeezing and hair stroking. I always felt sad saying goodbye to people I'd chatted to when I mc'd and had to leave a thread.

I hope it's all not too traumatic for you, rest up and take it easy. Hope the glass of wine helps in it's little way.

Likewise suzi I'm so sorry you've had to go through this too. It is just shit that one minute you're all excited and the next it's all over and you feel so sad. I hope you're getting lots of support and cuddles.... (((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))) here's a frew more from me.

sif that's really great news. So glad everything's progressing so well, it's so nice to heave a bit sigh of relief. You are indeed a couple of weeks after me, but believe me, by hook or by crook I'm getting this baby out the week before Christmas

blue I've already put on half a stone, but I think a week of nights haven't helped. I've been pretty good this time around, esp as I haven't had any ms. Last time I didn't have any ms either but I ate tons "just in case" I ended up putting on four and a half stone but quite a lot of that was water as two weeks after ds was born I'd lost over 2 stone!

Bubble sorry this month the clomid didn't work it's magic, but I'm sure it won't be long now.....

wasabi I hope the ms has returned to reassure you. I'm in that scary time when I don't really have any symptoms any more and I can't feel any kicking yet either. It's pretty nerve wracking, but hang in there, I'm sure everything's fine.

sunnydale I'm so sorry to hear about your FIL, I hope the funeral isn't too awful. I know they are, but I hope you're able to use part of it to celebrate his life too. I'm sure your dh is totally understanding, you've lost a member of your family too.

jumping congrats at getting almost halfway there, how exciting! Glad the trip to the rellies went well.

I'm through my nights now for another 8 weeks thank God. But another thing has reared it's head to challenge us. We were due to exchange contracts on our house move this week and the sellers of the house we were buying randomly decided to take the house off the market. So we've had a bit of a panic looking for another house, because we don't want to lose our buyer. We've seen 6 today (dh had to take the day off work) and there's one really promising one, lovely victorian house with amazing fireplaces and ceiling mouldings. It's decor is a bit suspect, very chintzy old lady, but nothing a lick of paint can't sort. There's a slightly quirky layout so we're going to have to bargain hard to leave us with enough money to put in another bathroom, as the only bathroom is currently accessed through a bedroom. If we can do that, then hopefully the move's back on.

Needless to say it was stress I didn't need, I've had a tension headache for the past three days since we found out. Not great on top of a week of no sleep, so I'm trying to take it easy this weekend. Sorry I've been rambling on about my housing woes... hope everyone's having a good weekend, thank goodness it's a bit cooler eh?

x

Oh Girl - I'm so sorry. You can have heavy bleeding and not mc, so I really hope that is the case for you. Can you do a HPT to check?
Suzi - so sorry to hear your news too.
Blue - hope the hayfever has eased now that the temperature has dropped.
Bubble - Sorry Clomid didn't work for you this month. It can take a few cycles to kick in. My concern for you is that you're not being monitored, so you don't know whether you are growing follicles and not ovulating, in which case an hcg trigger may sort out the problem, or not growing follicles, in which case you may need stronger Clomid or gonadatrophins. Can you ask to be monitored this cycle? You could pay for private monitoring, but it is expensive. My clinic charges £400 for 4 scans. Good news on DH's sperm results.
Wasabi - Great to have passed the milestone, especially one so late. Hope the house hunting is going well.
Irish - So sorry AF got you. Really hope you have better luck this cycle.
Head - Hope the house move is going smoother for you now and you've sorted Abbey out.
JJF - It must be lovely to feel the baby kicking, I can't wait for that stage. Good luck with your job interview next week.
Sif - JL put me in a horrid sports bra, which they only had in white in my size, so said I'd wait until they got a black one and left promptly. Mothercare have really nice plain black ones which look like underwired ones but aren't and are only £16. Great news on your 12-week scan. It's so amazing seeing them move, isn't it?
And last but not least, massive congratulations to Sunnydale. I'm so, so pleased for you. Sorry to hear about the burglary, sickness and, of course, your FIL though.

As for me, Glasto was brilliant and mentally relaxing but physically exhausting with so much walking around (after taking it easy for so long since I started the IVF drugs, my legs struggled). It's taken me the whole week to recover and haven't even felt able to post on here. I didn't see Bruce Sunny - he's not really my taste and there was lots on at the same time, saw half of Franz Ferdinand's set and the end of the Wonderstuff instead. Just watching Tom on BBC3 - only saw 10 mins of him as he clashed with Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs, but Nick Cave was always going to be my highlight. I looked really pregnant in my sarong and gypsy skirts though, much further along than I am. Think it's because I have such a fat tummy anyway and it seems to have moved to concentrate at the front. Have got my bellybump bandeau from JJMB though so will be able to wear my jeans again when it's not too hot. Had to do the hairband through the belt loop thing for some of my trousers at Glasto. I haven't gained any weight but my waist and belly have grown by inches. I had a scan for the research project on Wednesday which lasted an hour. Not always focused on the baby, but got to see quite a lot of him/her and got some lovely pics. Very special seeing the arms and legs moving. Will upload pics in a bit once I'm logged in. Have NT scan with first hospital antenatal appointment next Thursday.

Hope I haven't forgotten anyone (hi Wishing). Take care all.

Head - x-posted. How stressful about your house. Really hope the one you like comes through for you.

Hi everyone!

girl im so sorry. i really hope this isnt bad news and just your lil bean playing you up already. fingers crossed and sending you hugs xxxx

HF what a pain about the house. I hope u get things sorted.

sif congratulations on making the 12 week mark and on gaining a few days.

blue i hope the sickness stays away now.

Thanks for the advice issy i will ask the gp. will hold out from taking the clomid til tuesday so i have a chance to speak to her.

Hope everyone else is well.

XxX

Hello All. Girl I'm so sorry, and echo Headfairy in hoping that you and Suzi feel able to stick around, as after all this is a conception thread that just happens to have some pg ladies on it, but lovely ones who all understand too well that they could be in your shoes at any moment. Or have been. Please be nice to yourself, and post on here whenever you want and whatever you want. One of my friends bled for the whole nine months, heavily at times, and how has a DS of 3, but I know that isn't necessarily what you want to hear if the prognosis is different for you this time around.
Issy glad you've surfaced, and had a good time. Not surprised you're tired - all my non PG pals were exhausted when they returned, claiming they'd walked miles. Bruce is SO not to my taste normally, I hasten to add, but I was more mesmerised by his forearms than the music.
Head so sorry about your house - that sucks, big time. A similar thing happened to us, but I wasn't PG at the time so my sympathies are with you - that is one bunch of stress you definitely don't need. I really hope the one you've found instead turns out to be better.
Bubble sorry the Clomid didn't work this time. Am sure it will soon. Thinking of you.
Sif, lovely to hear your happy news, which you write of so movingly. Am so pleased you feel reassured now.
Wasabi I feel just like you, I think. No symptoms at all apart from sore boobs. I feel daft complaining about no MS, but like you I sort of wish I felt more PG, if only for reassurance. I can eat what I want, even anchovies and spinach and chilli. Can this be right? I'm such a loser. I worry when I get cramps, and I worry when I don't get cramps. I am trying to remind myself how lucky I am to be pg, and that the first 12 weeks are just hell, and that's that: you just have to zone out. Keep calm and carry on! I'd have bought the T shirt if bloomin' Jordan hadn't beaten me to it.
Hello to everyone else, hope you are all well and not too hot in this heat (I love it. Bring it on. The hotter the better, PG or not!) xx

Hi guys, lovely to hear from you all .

girl - so so sorry to hear you've had more bleeding . Hope you've been able to secure a scan to let you know for sure. Its just so shit, hard and exhausting having to start again but please don't give up...

Issy - great to hear from you and glad Glasto was mentally chillng if not on the old legs . I thought you had a scan this week, so glad you got to see arms and everything!!

Head - what a week with the house sellers pulling out - aaargh! Fingers crossed you get the chintzy old lady one for some house doctoring .

bubble hope your GP appointment goes well next week.

Sunny - girl in my office is 27 weeks pg and hasn't had a second of nausea, tideness, sore boobs, nothing. I know how hard it is in the early weeks when you need some physical proof but you may just be lucky and not get ms AND you do have sore boobs which I never had, 'tis apples and pears sometimes...

wasabi - how's the house hunting going? hope you've been able to get some rest this week .

sif - thought of any boys names yet ?

irish - how's the seduction going this month??

Suzi - how are you this week? did you make an appointment yet with the fertility clinic?

Soooo glad the heat has calmed down and my hay fever has subsided a wee bit, its been torture. I'm in my new velour just-this-side-of-chavvy maternity joggie bottoms and they are so comfy, I can so see me having to be surgically removed from them come xmas .

Have a great weekend everyone, and btw Bruce rocks! I'm going to see him next week and can't wait.. Glory Days, Dancing in the Dark, Born to Run - bring it on! Actually the thought of going is exhausting and I may have to source a fold away seat - not very rock chick .

Bubble - no need to delay starting the Clomid as monitoring wouldn't start until about day 12 of your cycle anyway. I think it's quite important that you take it on the right day. Hope the doctor comes through for you.
Sunny - Very jealous of you loving the heat. I'm afraid I'm not so good with it, though is much nicer now it's cooled down a bit.
Blue - Enjoy Bruce. I had the folding seat with me at Glastonbury. Did spoil the atmosphere a bit but I got up and danced to the odd song then had a rest again.
Girl and Suzi - thinking of you.

I'm back to work tomorrow. Only one week of my boss to suffer before she goes away for 3 weeks but she's always a nightmare the week before she goes away. Can't decide whether to be open with those who don't know from tomorrow or wait until after Thursday's NT scan. Also not sure which clothes I can wear that will a) still fit and b) not make my bump too obvious. I've reached the magic 12-week milestone today so only one more week to go before the second trimester milestone.

Hi everyone else, hope you're well.

Just wanted to send huge hugs to Suzi- glad you are managing to stay positive- and enjoy the wine! Do keep posting on here, this thread is exactly for that- TTC in all its often awful rollercoaster.

Girl thinking of you lots. Praying you are lucky and bean sticks- can you get your HCG levels monitored? Many hugs your way too.

Sif fab news re your scan!

Issy sounds like you had a wonderful time at Glasto. Hope work isn't too stressful now upon your return, and will be keeping everything crossed for your NT scan.

Head really hope you can get an offer accepted on the "new" house, it must be so stressful when you have a buyer and a deadline to make.

Big HELLO to everyone else- sorry for lack of personals but getting online once a week is killing me with trying to keep up!

We are all ok- had friends from France over at the end of last week with their 3yo and 6month old. Sadly their youngest got very poorly on the way over and ended up at our local hospital with breathing probs- v nasty chest infection. Luckily 48hrs later he was much better, but felt so sorry for them all. I babysat their eldest who was really good, especially considering my french is appalling , and DS loved having him with us, but it was all a bit stressful at times! Moved house yesterday, finally- still haven't got anywhere near all our stuff in yet, but getting there- 2 months after receiving the keys! Now hoping for a restful week while unpacking and preparing for job interview...hmmm!

Hello all
Hope everyone is well. I would really appreciate some advice and friendship!
I just went to the EPU, and all they could see was an empty sac - no heartbeat - a PG consistent with being 4 - 5 weeks along. Unfortunately, my LMP was May 16, and I should be 7 weeks along. They didn't out and out tell me it was over, because I haven't bled. They told me to come back in two weeks. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I am in bits, though of course I've been here before, so I'm kinda used to the way it feels - the waiting game. But I have a really bad feeling. That's why I went to the EPU in the first place. As I said on a previous post, I just don't feel PG.
I have to go to my FIL's funeral tomorrow, and obviously my DH has enough grief to deal with at the moment, which is why I went to the EPU on my own and which is why I'm not going to tell him, or anyone else, about what is happening until I know one way or the other. I guess I'm posting on here because you are the only people I can tell.
I know it's over, and that something has gone wrong. I never felt confident after that really bad bout of sickness a couple of weeks ago. I'm sure of my dates, therefore it seems to me as though the only possible outcome is that the bean isn't growing and I'll mc soon. Probably at the funeral. Better take a tampax.
Sorry for such a depressing post.

Sorry to hear about your little friend's chest infection, Jelly. Hope he is better now. Hello to everyone else and hope you are all well. Sorry, I said that already, didn't I. I am a bit shaken as first they told me it might be ectopic, and I was just wondering how to cope with a funeral and an emergency operation on the same day. I suppose I should be happy it's not ectopic, at least. Kind of struggling to feel happy, tbh.

Sunny I'm just about to dash out but I couldn't not post. You poor thing I'm so so so sorry you've got this dreadful wait ahead of you plus going through your FIL's funeral. I hope it's just a case of being a slow growing bean and needs the next couple of weeks to catch up.

Take care of yourself and try not to think about things too much.

Ps, don't use tampax if you do start to bleed, use pads. It's safer not to use tampax in these circumstances.

Big (((((((((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Oh Sunny, you poor poor thing, especially as you're dealing with this on your own to spare your DH at this time. No wonder your head is all over the place- my heart goes out to you. I would say keep hanging to a glimmer of hope that it's not over yet, but my friend went through a very similar thing- she should have been 8 wks pregnant and was 100% sure of her dates, but a scan showed 5wks max. She returned for a repeat scan a week later and nothing had changed so she was booked for D&E (dilatation and evacuation) under general anaesthetic as she couldn't bare to wait any long to mc naturally. It was heartbreaking for her, but she managed to somehow stay positive and decided to try again after her next period, and fell pregnant straightaway- her DS is now 6 months old.

I am so sorry about your FIL. I really hope your FIL's funeral goes as well as possible- I am sure with your hormones all over the place and carrying the thought of impending mc you will find it really tough, so please be gentle on yourself, don't expect too much and don't feel bad about having a good cry. Will be thinking of you and hope you are able to share all this with DH soon. Huge hugs xxxxx

Oh Sunny - I'm so to hear your news.

EPU's don't like to confirm anything if pg only dating 4-5 weeks as so much growth happens between 5 and 7 weeks. My gut feeling is if you are sure of your dates and don't feel pg then... you know where I'm going... .

I had 'reassurance' scan at 8 weeks in December (as had mc in the Aug) and although there was a fetal pole it was only measuring 5-6 weeks with no heartbeat. I still had to go back the following week as they were reluctant to confirm pg had gone as the early weeks are so inconclusive. BUT I knew my dates so scan following week only confirmed what I feared - bean had stopped growing and pg failed . Cruel thing was the wait covered Christmas Day and I had dead baby inside me all week. I did think I would go mad with grief and self-pity at points but you don't, you just soldier on.

Its beyond heartbreaking and the whole picking yourself up again takes monumental effort and you have your DH's grief and your FIL funeral tomorrow, just horrible horrible all round. BUT you WILL reboot and move on and please don't give up xxxxxx

Sunny, I am so sorry, please don't go through this alone, I am sure your DH would rather you told him, however bad the timing! If you decide not to then we are here for you! Sometimes I think our bodies are our own worst enemies, with perfect timing I started bleeding at my sil as she is in labour... Would be funny if it wasn't so heart breaking! Hope you get through the funeral ok, I echo head, don't use tampax, do you have a moon cup, that could be a safer and more comfortable alternative! Thinking of you, it's all so horrid isn't it. x

Thanks, everyone, for your kind words. I don't understand why I'm not bleeding. If the bean isn't growing, why haven't I bled. There is no way I want an evacuation, or whatever it's called. I had a termination for DS and related heart defects less than a year ago and it's too soon to smell that smell again. No. No. No.

I can't bear that DD is upstairs asleep and she'll never have a sibling. I'm 39. This was my last chance. I'm sorry to be so melodramatic but that's how it feels. What with the last pregnancy ending as it did and this one, it is surely a sign that my eggs are defective due to my age. I don't mean that of everyone who is 39, but I fear it may be true for me.

I have to stop crying now and call DH and pretend to be okay. I know what you mean, Girl, but believe me I just can't tell him. He is in such a state about the funeral tomorrow. I can't have him feeling he has to support me as well as his mum and everyone else.

Sunny, don't give up hope, this is not your last chance, these things just happen, it seems so unfair and it's devestating, but it really does just happen for no underlying reason, and you have every chance of going on and having a successful pregnancy next, even if hhe thought of having to start all over again just makes you want to cry, you have to. Re-group after the funeral and once you and DH are back on an even keel emotionally you will feel stronger and able to try again. Lots of women have children who are much older than you, my DP mum was 45 when she had her youngest, so please don't give up hope!

Sunny - sending you huge hugs, but please don't give up hope. There are loads of posts on here from people who have been sure of dates and scans have shown an earlier pregnancy and they've been fine when rescanned a couple weeks later. I know it doesn't always work out that way, but I really, really hope that it does for you. Is there anyone you can tell so you have some support tomorrow? Be thinking of you.

sunny im so sorry honey!! i can only echo what the others have said.. we are all here for you when u need us but i think your DH should know. you need a real life cuddle.
thinking of you babe xxxxx