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Issys girls.....10 down, only 4 to go! :-)

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Bubblebell1 · 16/06/2009 19:37

So here it is... our shiney new thread... hope you all see it soon or i will be here all on my own.

OP posts:
sifuentes · 07/07/2009 09:41

hi SOrry I have been quiet but it has been very hectic here with family dos and work etc
Anyway just wanted to say sorry to sunny too. Life can be so incredibly cruel sometimes. You thinkthat there are rules about only having to go through one terrible thing at a time and then something like this happens. DOn't try to pull yourself together. Cry your heart out. It's a horrible time. Take care.

girl and suzi i hope you are ok.

Will write properly to everyone else later. Hand squeezes all round xxx

littlepea72 · 07/07/2009 13:25

I really hope you all don't mind me gate crashing here, I was on threads with some of you before I got pregnant, I check in to see how you get on...

Sunnydale..a year & a half ago it happened to me, the bean stopped growing at 6 weeks, I found out when I should of been 11 wks. Like you I had this feeling, I never bled. They had to do a D&C and sent the bean away for tests, the brain wasn't forming. We are the same age and I'm now 26wks. I hope this might give some answers or a bit of hope, but please don't do this yourself, you need you DH. It's hard I know, I'm here if you need to talk xxx

Sunnydale · 07/07/2009 18:58

Hello everyone, thanks for your messages of support. Littlepea its lovely to hear from you again - I remember you from previous threads and am so happy to hear you are 26 weeks now. All the best for the future, and thanks for giving me hope.

The wake is going on downstairs in my MIL's house, but I had to come upstairs to lie down. Then I drove myself mad with my thoughts, so I thought I'd log on to MN to keep occupied.

Sadly I started bleeding this morning. It was very hard to get on the train while bleeding, as it was quite sore and heavy (sorry , TMI). Thankfully there is not much standing up at funerals when you think about it. I lasted till 6 o' clock at the wake but started feeling very tired and shaky so here I am upstairs in bed. I think I made the right decision not to tell DH, as he had a big eulogy to write and read out in church, and was in pieces. But now it looms large. I mean, do I tell him now, when he's a bit pissed and relieved the funeral is over? Or do I tell him tomorrow? I think tomorrow.

For myself, I only hope it wasn't "bad for me" not to be in bed all day. But what could I do? Headfairy, I took your advice and didn't use tampax. But do I need to go to the doctor or anything? Do they need to check it has all gone? Am I allowed a bath? I will look on MC threads as I don't know anything about them.

When will I get my next AF? When can I start ttc? I feel I've let the whole family down. A baby would have given my MIL something to live for now her DH has gone. I can't believe fate was so cruel to my DH and his family, that I had a MC on the exact day of the funeral. It was the one thing I'd been praying to avoid.

Hope everyone else is well, sorry to be such a downer

wasabipeanut · 07/07/2009 20:20

Hi everyone,

Well it?s all been kicking off at Chez Peanut but will reveal all after a catch up.

Sadly I have seen your news Sunny, I?m so, so sorry. I had a similar experience at the beginning of this year. The dreadful feeling that something wasn?t right followed by a scan at just before 8 weeks that dated me at 5.5 with no heartbeat. I started bleeding a week later and actually miscarried a week after that. Like you, I didn?t (and still don?t) understand how your body can be so cruel as to hold on to a pregnancy that has stopped. I don?t think the medics really understand it either tbh.

As for when you will get your next AF it varies from person to person but mine was almost bang on 30 days after the last pieces of tissue came away ( sorry ). The emotional recovery took somewhat longer. I wasn?t right in the head for at least 2-3 months and it took my cycle precisely 3 goes to go back to normal and I became pregnant again on that third cycle.

I empathise with your feelings that this seems unimaginably cruel. It is. In time you do accept it and the anger at the sheer bloody unfairness of it all starts to fade to a sad acceptance. Until you get there try to give yourself some time to physically and mentally rest. I am thinking of you x

Please also don?t give up hope for conceiving another. There are lots of people on MN who have borne some terrible losses but still managed to conceive and carry to term a healthy baby. It will happen for you ? please don?t give up.

Having written that, it seems a bit wrong to include lots of other personal messages so I will post again separately in a bit.

wasabipeanut · 07/07/2009 20:25

Girl I have just seen your post too. I'm so sorry. This has been a rotton week. I hope you enjoyed that wine and that you are giving yourself some time and space to recover.

Suzi You haven't posted much in the last few days. I hope this is because you are relaxing and recovering ande doing as ok as you can be.

Thinking of you both x

girlwithacurl · 08/07/2009 10:09

Hi, thanks wasabi I am about to have a second blood test for HCG levels, this will tell me definitivley what is going on, have been bleeding heavily for 4 days though so don't hold out much hope, however my boobs are still sore, which of course is giving me some hope, probably just to be dashed!!

sunny I had my next AF approx 50 days after I stopped bleeding, then it took a few cycles to settle down, actually it only just had and now this happens. I would probably go to your dr if I was you, sounds like you have a few questions and they will be able to answer them best. Thinking of you!!

Suzie how are you doing?

wasabipeanut · 08/07/2009 16:47

Hi again all,

Well here is the promised long update. It has been a busy week for us. We have had an offer accepted on our dream family house and this morning I had another scan and all is well. I am measuring 11 weeks rather than the 10+2 I date myself at and our little peanut is doing great and measuring a little over 4cm.

It had a good wiggle during the scan and then (just like yours Sif) it also did the little forehead rub before settling down to sleep again! Such a beautiful sight. It wasn?t a proper nuchal scan but the sonographer mentioned that the nuchal fold looked normal and that it all looked good so that?s also reassuring.

I keep gazing at the pictures and welling up. We told my Mum and Dad straight afterwards so muchos tears and hugginess going down.

I just feel so relieved and happy. At last I am starting to believe that this might really happen and that come February I will have another little squidgy, tiny baby in my arms. It certainly makes up for the fact that I have spent most of the last 6 weeks feeling as if I am about to lapse into a narcoleptic coma.

And now to the personals.

Sunny, Girl and Suzi - I hope you are all doing as well as you can be right now and that you are all finding love, support and wine from your partners. Thinking of you x

Sif Well it sounds as if our scan experiences were quite similar! I am so happy for you that you have passed that 12 week milestone. It?s been a hell of a bumpy ride in your case but hopefully you will soon be past that and into the serene, bumpy, smiley stage!

Head You sound like you have had a proper ?mare over your house. I just hope that now you have found this second one that things can proceed without anymore hitches. The house sounds promising. The house we have offered on is Victorian too. I have always loved old houses. Our current abode is a little 2+1 terrace and is lovely if a little cosy! I am so looking forward to having more space.

Issy So glad you have hot your 12 week marker too and glad you enjoyed Glasto although not surprised the walking knackered you out. Speaking as someone who has to have a little rest after walking from the sofa to the fridge the Glasto site would have totally done me in. Your music taste sounds quite similar to mine although I am amazed you could even stay awake for the headliners! I would have been snoozing in my tent by 8.

Blue How are you getting on? Hope the disappearance of the sunshine means that your hay fever has chilled a little. I am feeling quite envious of your nearly chav but not quite jogging bottoms! Even my normal lovely baggy pj bottoms are now starting to annoy me round the waist. My bag of maternity gear in the loft is calling me!

Jelly I think you can be forgiven for infrequent posts given your workload! Hope the new house is coming along well.

Hi and sorry to anyone that I have missed out. We are suffering and enjoying some very mixed fortunes at the moment butI hope we all continue to stay together.

(((Group hug)))

bluesatinsash · 08/07/2009 20:00

Hi girls,

What a week we've had. Sunny - not sure what's happening with you today but you need to go back to EPU so they can check that everything has come away . Did you tell your DH? What a rotten, horrible week you've had . The thought of trying again is so daunting and hard and exhausting but please don't give up and you are not old at 39, not by a long shot.

girl - really praying for a miracle for you. One of the girls on my other thread (sif - it was barbie) had early heavy bleeding and was convinced it was over, had a scan and there it was 7 week bean...

Big massive (((((((hug)))))) to you both.

wasabi delighted for you that your scan went well , your baby was waving and you've secured a new family home - all go 'chez peanut' right enough . You'll be dipping your toe in the pool of 2nd trimester before you know it - lovely.

Head, sif, Issy and jumping - hope you're all fine and enjoyig the cooler weather. sif - I'm still throwing up but only if I eat too much - feel the fat police are secretely monitoring me .

Irish - you must be entering 2ww territory any day now... Stay busy and keep sane

Bubble - how did your appointment go this week?

I had my triple bloods taken today and also got to hear baby's heatbeat - 170bpm - lovely and sooo reassuring, well for today anyway . Have already decided not to have any follow up amnio if I come back high risk which I fully expect to due to age, previous mc's and early bleeding but what will be will be. I swithered whether to even have tests but figured it prepares me a little for potential bad news at 20 week scan.

Better go, DS is calling me for stories.

Love to all x

Sunnydale · 08/07/2009 20:11

Hello, just checking in to let you know I haven't topped myself. Back from the funeral now, and while yesterday was quite possibly the worst day of my life, the plus side is that today can only be better, and tomorrow better still. I would not recommend miscarrying at your father in law's funeral to anyone. This morning I told DH; it wasn't a pretty sight but hey, he had to know, and now he does, and that's that. Still bleeding, and feeling a horrible "empty uterus" sensation as I walk up the stairs. I suppose that will pass. Don't feel like drinking but might go and have a brandy in a mo.

Girl, 50 days until your next AF! I can't bear it. I'll be 40 by the time I even have a period at that rate, never mind another bean. Do you feel pg still? Maybe you are - am really rooting for you. Please keep in touch.

Wasabi, huge congrats on your scan, so happy to know the bean is well and wiping its forehead. What a huge relief.

Blue, glad you heard the baby's heartbeat - lovely - oh, such a lovely moment.

Irish, how are you? Hello to everyone else we haven't heard from for a while. Head, how's it going with the house?

girlwithacurl · 08/07/2009 20:14

Dr just rang, tests show it is probably ectopic... Going to wait until tomorrow to go to the hospital, dr just said to get myself there pronto if I feel any
more pain. Damn.

irishmumwannabe · 09/07/2009 11:37

Hi girl I am so sorry to hear your news - hope you are ok today and that you are getting the best care needed. (((hug)))

SUnny I've missed so much of your news. I am very sorry to hear about your FIL and about the mc. I hope you got a good dose of brandy down you. My heart goes out to you and DH and his family - it's good to see that you are being positive. Stick with us - my mum was finished with kids when she was 40 (well she had had 7) but then she had 2 surprises when she was 44 and 45.

Suzi hope all is ok with you...let us know how you are.

Blue LOL at your joggers - I have a pair of those as well strictly for lounging around the house though if I do get pg that rule might be relaxed! that was so cool you got to hear the HB.
One question swithered? - I quite like it just wondering how to explain what ir means for when people look askance at me.

wasabi yay for your scan - how cute are those little beans being? Well done on the house as well.

Sif that's cool about your scan as well. Hope the MS is gone or going for you.

Issy well done on walking all around Glastonbury - not sure I would have lasted that well and I like to think I'm relatively fit. Congrats on getting past the 12 week hurdle.

Jumping - hope the house renovations are on schedule and it's probably too late for good wishes on the interview so I hope it went well.

Head How's the house situation going?

Hi littlepea can't believe you are 26 weeks well done and hope the rest flies in for you to see your bean.

Hello Bubble are you back on the Clomid again? How's it going?

So this looks to be a mammoth post now -

I have been working the weirdest hours for the past while - hence why I've not posted in a while. Things are heating up here with the new system going in at the end of the month so we're all working flat out. I've been working until 4 a.m. twice this week, one day after starting at 8 a.m. so am wrecked tired now. Am going to the theatre tonight so hopefully won't fall asleep in the chair.

Anyway - on to more important matters. I got a on my digi opk on Tuesday and Wednesday. We had bd'd Weds, Thurs, Fri, Sun, Tues and Weds. (Would have done Mon but was in work until 4 a.m. ) Probably have another crack at it tomorrow but am officially waiting for the next 2 weeks to pass. Thankfully I will be working flat out here so won't have time to obsess. Probably not the best situation to be in stress-wise but sure we can only work with what we have.

Have my Dad's 70th birthday celebrations this weekend as well and am not working tomorrow so will have to catch up on all that lost sleep.

Sorry for the long post - hope everyoen is well and I'll "see" you all later

Sunnydale · 09/07/2009 11:53

Girl, I'm so sorry. How are you today? Is there any pain? Will you be in overnight tomorrow? Have they located the bean? Thinking of you. Big, huge hugs. It sucks, it just sucks.

Irish, great to hear from you, and well done on the concerted effort with the BD-ing. We did it six times the month we struck lucky, so here's hoping six is the magic number for you and Mr Irish, too. And how amazing about your mum. Am I getting the maths right: she had nine children in total? OMG. My granny had six, and her last at 46, so I'm hoping that good eggs run in the family. Although the evidence in my case points to the opposite!

Oh, "swithered" means "fannied about deciding". Would you agree, Blue? It means "pontificated", if you want to sound posh, but I prefer "fannied about deciding" as there's definitely an element of indecision between two (or more) choices. Oh, what am I on about? Truly, the things you do to take your mind off a MC.

Hope everyone else well and happy xx

irishmumwannabe · 09/07/2009 12:06

Thanks for the translation Sunny it's a good word and one I will be adopting.

About my mother - yes she had 9 children, and then just for poops and giggles Pops and she agreed to adopt my cousin. Their view on it was "Sure it's just a few more spuds in the pot" and in fairness it made it a nice round number in the end. {grin]

I think I'm starting a little late to follow in her footsteps (unless I have 2 sets of natural quints ) but not planning on it either.

bluesatinsash · 09/07/2009 14:45

LOL Sunny - yes "fannied about deciding" is a good alternative to swithered . Is it a Scottish word per se? There's a gap in the mug market if it is (you can buy mugs up here with 'crabbit' 'scunnered' fit'ba' 'glaiket' etc. etc.) - must find link...

...ta da clever blue

Sunny - so good to hear from you, you sound a bit brighter, but it would have been hard to top your beyond awful day coping with mc and FIL funeral. My AF came 26 days after last mc/ERPC so don't think you have to wait 50!!

Irish - yay! high five and much respect to the copious amounts of bd . Great to hear you're going to be kept busy at work during the dreaded 2ww.

girl - so sorry to hear it might be ectopic .

I really shouldn't be on here as DS is napping and Thurs is housework day, there are floors to be cleaned, tuna lasagne and soup to be made , rooms to be dusted and cushions to be plumped up... ho hum.

Big hello's to sif head wasabi Issy jumping suzi and bubble xx

girlwithacurl · 09/07/2009 21:35

Hi, they found the bean, with heartbeat, in the right tube, so much panic and straight down for laproscopy, will have to stay overnight, feel very sore.

Can I ask some advice, issy you are HR aren't you, what should I tell my boss? Obviously I have said I am in hospital and that it was an emergency, do I tell her the truth and then she knows I an TTC, or make up a plausable reason. I get on ok with her, but she is a bit of a gossip, not sure I could trust her not to tell. Also do I tell HR.

Sorry for the me me me post, will catch up properly when I get home, hope everyone is well, and thank you all for you good wishes!!!

bluesatinsash · 09/07/2009 21:51

oh girl - how sad and awful, bean with heartbeat but in wrong place . I'm afraid I know nothing about ectopics, can they remove without damagng your tube?

I work in HR too and you don't have to tell anyone anything. You obviously have to explain your absence but your doctor can give them a written note and it can be as vague as 'gynae procedure' which covers lots of things. Its entirely up to you if you let them know in due course.

Please don't ever feel you're writing a 'me, me' post - that's what we're here for.

Sending you a big nae huge ((((hug))) xx

Bubblebell1 · 09/07/2009 22:23

Hi girls!

im so sad to hear all the bad news. girl i really hope your being looked after and suzi too.

sunny i think that does qualify as the worst day ever, sending you my love.

irish good luck on your 2ww.

well im on day 4 of 100mg clomid. was told to start takin it on day 30 as AF hadnt shown up. not had any side effects as yet.
I asked the gp about scans etc and she said that the bloodtest on day 21 is enough monitoring and i would only get the scans if i went private.

My mil is here to stay fot the week and this weekend is my sisters 21st. im gonna go out and let my hair down and try and forget about ttc.

xxxx

hope everyone is well

xxxxx

OP posts:
Issy42 · 09/07/2009 23:25

Girl - how devastating for you . Really hope they managed to save the tube. Massive hugs to you and Mr Girl. As Blue says you don't have to say anything you don't want to. The only thing I would think about is the emotional side of things as an ectopic pregnancy is obviously much more emotionally hard-hitting than a simple gynae procedure, so depends on whether it helps you to get through work with no-one knowing or whether you would be supported if your boss knew. But understand your dilemma as my boss is a total gossip too and I'm pretty sure it was her told people about my mc last year.
Sunny and Suzi - thinking of you both. Glad you have been able to tell DH now Sunny. Must have been so hard going through it without him. I got my AF 26 days after my mc started.
Littlepea - hi, thanks for popping in. I remember you from other threads too.
Wasabi - Great news on your scan.
Blue - Hope your bloods come back with good results.
Irish - Good luck for the 2ww. Enjoy your dad's 70th and try not to burn yourself out with all that working.
Bubble - Good luck with the Clomid this month. Sorry you can't get monitored, must be another of those postcode lottery things as to whether you get it or not.

I had my NT scan today. Got the really lovely sonographer from my IUI days - was so relieved to see her and am feeling much better about the hospital now as the other staff were lovely too. My baseline Down's risk based on my age alone is 1:137 but after the scan it was 1:610, so am pleased. Can't have the serum test as it gives false results for IVF pregnancies.

Hi Sif, Wishing, Head and JJF. Hope you're well.

HeadFairy · 10/07/2009 15:33

Oh God, I'm so so slack, I have really been bad about keeping up with you guys. Especially as some of you are going through such tough times. I'm so sorry you've had such Godawful weeks Sunny Suzi and Girl
I do hope you're getting much love and support at home. Girl I hope they manage to save your tube, and your post op recovery is swift. I'm sure emotionally for you all will be another thing. So sad for you all

sunny I'm glad you've been able to tell yor dh so you can share some healing time together. I did write you a massive post at earlier before your fil's funeral, but my stupid computer deleted the lot and I had to dash out, but I hope things are looking up for the sunny household now.

Bubble I hope this month's clomid does the trick and you don't get any of the nasty side effects you did last time.

Irish your life sounds as busy as mine, those working days are evil... how many hours? Poor you!!! I hope all the bd'ing pays off this month, much respect for being so dedicated when you've got so much work on.

blue Glad you got to hear your baby's heartbeat, how exciting. And I could be wrong, but doesn't a slower heartbeat (around the 170bpm) mean a girl? I always was told that as ds always had a hb around the 190 mark, and lo and behold, a boy is born Of course, it could be an old wives tale I'm doing hunt the heartbeat next week at the midwives so we'll see what mine's at, perhaps it's another boy for me. Who knows?

Issy Great news about your nuchal results, that's brilliant. I think I had about the same baseline risk, it was about 1:125 or something, and mine went down to 1:400 after the scan, so I'm a bit of your youthful eggs

wasabi congrats on the successful scan, always nice to gain a few days as well I hope you can start to enjoy things more now, and bloom (although at nearly 16 weeks I'm still waiting for that stage!) I hope all the moving goes well too... it's flipping stressful all this house buying rubbish isnt' it?

Well that's the reason I've been totally out of things recently... we have had the most horrendous time seeing houses. I literally don't have a minute to draw breath what with work and everything. We have got another offer in on a place but the owners are playing hard ball with us and want another £5k to take it off the market and cancel any other viewings. It felt very liberating to say no... I'm hoping no one else makes a higher off, because ours still stands. It's a nice house but I'm not going to be bullied in to paying more than I think it's worth.

Of course dh's operation gets closer and closer and we've got nowhere to live, no childcare and we have to be out of our house in 5 weeks. It looks more and more like we're going to be living at my mum and dads which is no hardship for me, we'll save a fortune, nearly £1500 a month on mortgage payments and childcare alone, and I'm sure my mum won't let me pay for any food or anything, but I think dh is reluctant to live with his inlaws, especially as he'll be on crutches and unable to run walk away

Tough I say!!! Aren't I evil, making my husband live in a lovely 16th century cottage in the country with a huge garden, lots of sky sports channels to watch all day, being waited on hand and foot, all meals cooked for him, washing and cleaning done, plus saving nearly £2k a month!!!! What a cow eh?

Ok, so I'm getting carried away, I'm off to eat my bodyweight in chocolate... A big hello to everyone, and ((((((((((((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))))) to you all xx

Sunnydale · 10/07/2009 20:43

Oh Girl, so sorry to hear you're in hospital. I know nothing about ectopics apart from what they told me when they thought mine was one, which was that it needed to come out right away. Hope you are as okay as can be expected. God, this thread is so bittersweet, isn't it. It seems like yesterday that only two of us were left to get PG. Now it's back to four again. Oh cruel life.

Issy so so pleased your nuchal result was good. You can really relax now.

Headfairy, sorry to hear you're having such house stress. FWIW, I think you're absolutely right not to be bullied into making a higher offer than you feel comfy with. They sound like they are just trying it on. People can get so evil when it comes to houses, can't they. Moving back with your parents sounds like an excellent plan: you deserve some TLC and will crave even more as your pg progresses.

Suzi, how are you? Are you having a break from MN? I keep wondering if I should do the same but it so helps to have support and feel connected. Thinking of you.

I went to the doc this morning and she so depressed me. She was all like "well, if you want another child then yes, keep trying, but obviously your eggs do decline after 38." I asked if there were any blood tests I could have to reassure myself, but she said no. It was only when I told her I'd googled "blighted ovum" and found that the main causes were trisomies 6 and 20 that she conceded I could have screening to see if I carry a chromosomal abnormality. I feel like she was just trying to get me out of there as fast as poss. I know that, in the grand scheme of things, a 39 year old woman who wants a second baby is low down on the list of NHS priorities, but even so, I feel she could have been nicer. I'm no Russian heiress, but I think I might see how much private treatment will cost. Oh, I dunno. I know the doc is right and there isn't much hope for me, but you know when you just want to try to do everything possible to help yourself?

Hello to everyone else, hope you are all okay on this overcast evening. I feel a bit down but I'm not out!

bluesatinsash · 11/07/2009 11:37

Hey Sunny - In my experience, Docs are rubbish when it comes to anything 'specific'. They don't really have an interest in fertility matters and just try and palm you off. At least she did warm up by the end... I do firmly believe my two mc's were down to faulty eggs but didn't think they were ALL faulty, just that I might have to have a few attempts to get a healthy one.. Of course I'm saying all this before my 20 week scan/blood results so this one may still be faulty, only less so . What I'm trying to say in a waffly way is, YES it may take us longer to conceive a 'take home' baby, but you still can and you will!

Head - can I move with you to your parents house ? Sounds heaven, we live in the countryside but not in a 16th Century cottage . Think of all the $$$$ you will save to spend on new house/baby/vodka! How is your DH, is he able to work with his knee?

Funny you should mention heart rate and gender, we discussed it back at my office after my appoint. Everyone (including me) thinks I'm having a girl so who know?! I was 101% convinced DS was a boy but you do have a 50/50 chance after all

Well done also for sticking your heels in re: offer, people get so ruthless and greedy but its a buyers market and you have the added relief of having sold yours so hold tight and they will crumble .

girl - been thinking about you lots and hope your op went OK. Not sure if your still in hospital or home but you deserve lots of tlc.

. I feel like a new women today, after shite week of bad sleeps and early rising DS's I slept 'til 10.30am today and when I got up, DH and DS were away on some errands so have the house to myself and its bliss......

wasabipeanut · 11/07/2009 15:35

Hi everyone,

Just checking in for a quick update before donning my domestic goddess persona and knocking up some blueberry muffins for DS?s tea. That makes me sound really selfless doesn?t it? Actually, I quite fancied muffins as well. DH is currently snoozing on the sofa and DS is doing the same in his room so I have a few moments of peace to make the most of.

Anyway, firstly Girl I am so sad to hear that this has turned out to be ectopic. It must be truly heartbreaking. Like the others I hope very much that they can save your tube but if they can?t please don?t think it means the end. My DH was conceived with just the one apparently as my MIL lost one during her pregnancy with my SIL. There is a poster called Funtimewincies - lovely lady, who is now around 20 weeks pg who suffered 2 mc?s and an ectopic after having her DS so it is still possible even after this distressing event. She usually hangs out on the Grapefruit Juice Drinkers antenatal thread if you want to try and find her. Just give yourself time and space ? physically and emotionally.

Sunny sorry to hear your GP experience wasn?t great. I have to agree with Blue in that they just don?t ?get? fertility and pregnancy issues. I went to my GP very early on in this pg because I was symptomless and panicking and he informed me that if the embryo had died then HCG levels would be dropping by half each day which just is plain wrong. If that was the case then the phenomena of missed miscarriages simply wouldn?t exist. I persuaded him to do blood tests several days apart but it was a struggle and I am sure he just wanted to get the weeping woman the hell out of his room. Please don?t give up just yet.

Suzi Hope you are ok and just having a rest.

Blue Have to agree with Head about the 170bpm means a girl more likely! That?s quite a lot over the 140 which seems to be the borderline point. Glad you have enjoyed some downtime today.

Irish I hope your dads birthday weekend goes well. You sound crazy busy but at least that will keep you distracted during the dreaded 2WW! BTW my eyes watered (on your mums behalf really) when reading that you are one of 10! I am having a hard time persuading DH that 3 isn?t a bit OTT.

Bubble wishing you the very best of luck with the clomid. I think that going out and letting your hair down is a great idea. Sometimes I do get a pang for the lifestyle DH and I had before DS came along. Dual incomes, no responsibilities and a lot of what people now refer to as ?partying. ? No regrets of course just the occasional pang.

Issy Glad your scan went well too. Must be a relief.

Head Blimey its all been going off at yours hasn?t it? Am sorry to hear you have had so much house grief. Losing the first one was bad enough but the fact that these other people are now holding out for top whack is just crazy. I remain firm in my belief that a lot of vendors are still living in some sort of time warp, pricing their houses like it was 2007. There seems to be a belief that we have a fundamental human right to make massive profits from our houses which is mad.

The one we bought started a few months ago at £475k! When we saw it, it had dropped to £420 and they accepted our offer of quite a lot less than that from us. Just shows how grossly overpriced it was to start. Stay firm ? you might find they come back to you shortly. It doesn?t sound like a bad hotel at your parents!

Right, gotta get my muffins on! That sounds quite rude doesn?t it?

girlwithacurl · 11/07/2009 17:17

Hi all, well I am back home, sans right tube... I am well, the hospital were great and really looked after me, and now DP won't let me lift a finger, has all of next week WFH so he can keep an eye on me, and my M&D just popped over with some shopping, so I am being very well looked after. Emotionally I am up and down, fine as long as I keep busy, but when I stop to think I get a bit tearful, as blowing my nose really hurts I am trying to cut down on the tears!

Thanks to everyone who has sent me good wishes, it really does help to know you are all there. blue and issy thanks for the HR advice, i decided to tell her all, I am dropping her in it a bit at work, not my fault I know, but I still felt I owed her the truth, I just have to hope she will keep it to herself! sunny hope all is well with you, please don't give up!! hope your DH is ok and coping with everything and looking after you, I know how you feel with the "empty uterus" thing, I feel a bit bereft and like I am no longer a whole person, silly really I have only lost a bit of a tube!

head good luck with all the house stuff, buying and selling is so stressful, let alone with a DS and being PG, i feel for you, and your DH!!

bubble hope the clomid is working hard for you thins month.. Dr's can be so frustrating can't they, mine didn't even want to give me blood tests, when they discovered that it was ectopic he kept phoning the hospital to see how I was, which was nice, but it woudl have been better if he had been on the ball in the first place!

wasabi, irish thanks for your messages, irish how is the 2ww going? wasabi thanks for the tip and for positive stories!!

suzi hope everything is ok with you??

Phew, better post this before I loose it, think this may be my longest post EVER!

Sunnydale · 11/07/2009 17:44

Hello Girl, so glad you're home safe and among loved ones who are looking after you. So sorry this was the outcome for you, I really am. But the others are right: there are many, many women who go on to conceive: one of my best friends has a DD aged 2, conceived after an ectopic and a fibroid the size of a grapefruit! Her dr says there is no reason she can't try for another. But first things first. Be good to yourself and allow yourself to cry.

FWIW I think you did the right thing telling your colleague. One of the most stressful things for me is feeling unable to tell anyone at work. I went in on Friday even though I was still bleeding and didn't feel ready, simply because I couldn't think of a lie for myself. I resent being in this position, and maybe I am being too over-protective of myself, or rather of what's happened to me. But the truth is part of me feels like a failure, and vulnerable, and I don't want my work colleagues to know it. It has actually made me feel like jacking in my job, as I'm questioning why I've chosen to work among such people. But then I remember that being unemployed and barren would be worse than merely being barren (crap, weak attempt at humour there). I bet you'll feel better, and heal faster, from sharing your experience. Thinking of you and wishing you a fast, gentle recovery xxx

sifuentes · 13/07/2009 09:46

Hi peeps

Sorry I have been awol but I have been 'outed' and cringing in a corner ever since. I think i will lay low for a little longer but wanted to send best wishes to girl and to sunny (and suzi if she is lurking)
I really hope that you area both being looked after to the max. What a hideous time you have had of it.
I will post more soon, praps in dark glasses and a false moustache. In the meantime
Love to you all xxx

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