Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

I love checking this thread out. It's the only place I know that people activly discuss their bedroom activity without being embaressed.
Well no scheule for me at the momment as DH had his VR op yesterday so all bding out of the window for the next 7 days at least (direction from the consultant)but then who knows.
Hope everyone is keeping OK and keep positive.
x

Hi all,

just popping in to say hello and see how you all are. Really great to see loads of new people the thread seems really active. I'm trying to keep away at the moment as feeling a bit low. Did everything absolutely by the book this month, but it feels like AF on its way all the same...Let's hope we get some bfp's here soon.

Tomorrow have long-postponed appointment with super-specialist fertility expert, so really hoping he's going to say something encouraging (although there's a risk he won't be able to finish his sentences as dd has to come with me...)

sorry for gloom - but will pass on the many encouraging things... xx

Hi everyone,

Tetley, sorry to hear you are feeling down. I hope the appointment goes well and gives you something to focus on. Let us know how you get on!

"I hear you knocking ... But you cain't come in ..."

Fat chance! The witch has well and truly arrived. And despite knowing that she was on the way, some small, hopeful part of me really hoped that perhaps I was wrong. Nup. We have one last round of clomid before IVF.

No pressure ...

Tetley Sorry you've been feeling down too. It certainly helped me venting on the thread when I was feeling down, and everyone was so lovely and supportive. It can be difficult reading though when there doesn't seem to be much in the way of positive things happening. Let us know how the appointment goes (and best of luck with having DD in tow).

Lucky how's DH recovery from the op? Hope it's not too sore. Has he told friends & colleagues about it? I remember DH coming back from work once and they'd all been discussing experiences - theirs and other peoples - over lunch in the canteen.

Kiwi Oh poo. It's that little bit of hope that keeps us going though isn't it.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Hi all again. Being off work looking after DH has it's advantages it means I can pop into the site more often.
Tetley - Hope all goes well tomorrow with your appointment will keep everything crossed for good news.
Spiralqueen - DH recovering well just got to keep telling him to sit down. We have told no one about the VR not even the boys. He had to mention it to the works nurse as he will be off for about 4 weeks as he is an engineer and goes a lot of heavy lifting but no other friends or family. We just wanted to keep it to ourselves and tell them when (positive thinking) something happens.
Kiwi Keep hopeful. x

Lucky ouch! Your poor DH! It makes a change from my point of view: the bloke undergoing the prodding and poking. He must be a sweetie.

Kiwi boooooo! AF push off! Do you get a funded IVF in your area?
Can you take a month off Clomid and then go back on, the thing with clomid is it thins the endometrium, so can affect implantation, but Clomid stays in your system for a month or so, so you might find that when you stop the endometrium goes back to normal you get lucky.
I have read about people becoming pg after Clomid or having a month on and a month off.

Well so much for Dong Quai, I did like it, but it was giving me terrible bloating. I looked up side-effects and it is a known problem.
So now I'm looking into Maca, it is supposed to balance the hormones and act as a general tonic. Has anyone tried??

Hi to everyone who's feeling down - hope you soon feel more positive.

Isn't it funny how we all feel sorry for a hubbie who has to have an op and yet we've all had loads of prods and pokes - personally I've had 3 laproscapies and laser treatment for endometriosis plus 2 births and I know you ladies have undergone many unpleasant and uncomfortable things.

Well as for me - as far as I know I ovulated yesterday (finally gave up on those darn opk sticks and just went with the signs mother nature gave me). Did some BDing before ov day and also morning after (6am again) to make sure there are loads of troops up there. So now it's head under the virtual duvet for the 2WW - anyone joining me under here? I've got chocolate!

Hi everyone - have done a name change (formerly known as ddilemma!!) as think RL people from babyland may have sussed I'm on here - not that I've anyhing to hide, but would rather remain anonymous IYSWIM. However if they read this post they'll know who I am - oh bugger it!
Anyway, commiserations for those of you having a crap time, it's truly unbelievable the highs and lows we go through, but loads of hugs/sympathy to you all.
I've had a smiley face on OPK + loadsa EWCM today,(day 13) so as well as long trip to Cornwall for weekend we've got to fit in loadsa BD (with DS in hotel room...!!) then will be back on 2WW with you Hippy!
Good weekend to you all
ps Summer have a good week with your Mum visiting, am around following Tues 13 th if ur?

xx

Have a good weekend Ghengis. No pillaging!
Good luck with the hotel room!
Hippy fingers crossed for the 2WW.
I can totally relate to the ops, I have had a laparoscopy and a myomectomy to remove a hoooge fibroid and of course the IVFs. Feel like a piece of meat don't you!

Thanks for your lovely supportive messages rowing, spiral, lucky, hippy, ghenghis. The appointment went ok. Gyno bloke wants to monitor my cycle next month and then try artificially inseminating me. Of course at this point dd was trying to make me give her a piggy back and concentrating got very difficult. He was the classic health professional, great at yakking on about what he plans to do, no good at actually explaining the options in a meaningful way. I found it hideous being examined by a bloke. I just hate it. He scanned my breasts too (!) which meant I was sitting there practically naked at a certain point feeling horribly vulnerable, although there was a female nurse there. When I got outside I got dd in her buggy so she couldn?t see me, and just burst into tears. My reaction seems a bit extreme I know. But I just can?t help it. It feels ridiculous, there are so many of you who are going through really invasive, intensive treatments and being prodded and poked all the time. I think it?s the ttc thing that makes it worse. I feel like I?m in a more vulnerable position. Please excuse the rant!

What I don?t really get is how artificial insemination is supposed to help? Do they inseminate the sperm right into the uterus? Otherwise why is it any better than normal sex, given that the sample will deteriorate on the trip to the clinic.. Hmm, back to google.

Thanks for being out there, girls. Hope you all have a good weekend.

Kiwi ? sorry to hear you?re about to join the af club too?Clink with the virtual G&T!

poor tetley you sound like you've been through the wars you go ahead and have a good cry its better than keeping it bottled up. i hope the rest of your weekend turns out better.
had my HSG on friday and you were right girls it was nothing to worry about thanks.
was totally embarassed though as i trained with the girl doing the images and she recognised me so no doubt everybody now knows what i'm up too she was very nice though and made sure she stayed behind the screen to save my blushes lol
now all i can do is wait for my app in november for the results. this waiting is a pain isn't it

lol at tetley trying to concentrate on professional person whilst giving a piggyback to dd - they just don't get how important these appointment are do they?

ghenghis you would make a rubbish secret agent!!! v. funny. It's funny how we don't want RL people to know stuff that we don't mind sharing with our virtual buddies.

I'm under the duvet now (face covered in chocolate) waiting for more 2 ww'ers to join me. Ghenghis is due to join me after trying to bd with ds in the room (quietly does it ghenghis!)

Lots of Love to all. Feeling very affectionate (early preg symptom??? ha ha)

Hello everyone - Tetley, Rowing, Fifi, Spiral, Fruit and all the rest of you lovely ladies. Big hugs to those of us who need it. Let's hope this new week brings us all a bit of good luck and sunshine.

Hi everyone,
I'm just checking in, can't sleep because of cold and don't even fancy chocolate under the duvet, so your stash is safe Hippy.
Earoma, that's funny about the girl, at least she isn't a reporter for your local paper, that would be bad. I'm sure she has some kind of professional ethical thingy, so she can't mention anything, or you can sue her for ££££££££££££s
Kiwi thank you for your hugs, I am sending your hug to my ear - you are hugging my ear. yes!
Do you want me to hug your nose or anything?

rowingboat
Hope the cold is better soon. Big hugs to you and everyone else.

Hi

Rowing your cold seems to have lasted a long time hope you are getting better.
Spiral Anynews from your clinic?
Ghengis Yep the 13th is fine for me at the moment.
Thought I would mention to all those recurrent MC'ers an interesting bit of information. (this bit isn't but it's how I got it) DH was discussing our situation with a colleague at work!!!!!!!! There's me only able to type about it to you lot and he's talking about it to someone he only works with, men eh? Besides which as well we know if a man has an interesting gossip at work they go home and tell the missus - I can't stand his missus, met her once and really she should have the name Gengis - no offence DD was the least compastionate person I have meet. So I don't really want her knowing and judging me - and I hear nothing of her or their situation. Anyway that's my rant. The interesting thing is a relative of theirs had the same thing and after the 5th was diagnosed with FACTOR V LIEDEN. Had it corrected and carried the next DC carried to term. I haven't looked it up yet it's to do with blood clotting hence the asprin that is diagnosed a lot. Thought it would be interesting for some.

Sorry if the info is old hat and everyone already knows about it.

Get well soon, Rowing. I am on day 7 and feeling renewed committment and energy for our mission. Last two cycles I was rather depressed, feeling ancient and very skeptical about our decision. That's why I let business trip and arguements come in our way otherwise I would have tried to overcome these situations. I talked to my mother for the first time about it. To my surprize, she was very enthusiastic and even confessed that she always disliked our idea of keeping our DD an only. She wasn't concerned about my age or about 12 yr gap between DD and would be sibling. I was relieved because I really thought that she and my MIL will definitely think I am going crazy at this age. I guess you never get too old for your mother. Also women in our Moms' generation are probably more open minded than we give them credit for. Anyways, I am a woman on a mission this month. Loads of luck to all of us.

I am v. confused. Today i'm 5 days past ovulation and I noticed a slight streak when I wiped (sorry!) Also i have v. mild cramps. I keep swinging between being very excited that this could be implantation and feeling very down becaue it could mean AF is on the way and if she is, that means I defo have a very short LP and need to see the GP .

I can do NOTHING about it except just wait and see if AF comes in next couple of days!! It's really frustrating me and I don't know how to feel- optimistic or pesimistic??

Hi everyone and thank you for your 'get wells' very kind you are all too!

Hippy, I'm not sure what your cycle length is, but usually implantation is around 10-12 days post ovulation. However, if you ovulate early and have a shorter follicular (is that right??) phase then it is possible that you could have implantation this early.
Another explanation could be a change in hormone levels. Have you had a day 21 test to see what your progesterone levels are like? I think I have read that it is possible to spot when the progesterone levels are on the low side.
Hope it is something good though!

Pat how lovely to have your mum 'on side'. There are a few women at nursery who have had 'late' babies and had gaps of up to 14 years. A couple of the ones I have asked have said they thought a big age gap has been a really positive thing for the whole family.

Summer are you a bit fed-up at the prospect of this attila woman learning that you are TTC and finding it a bit uphill?
Do you think you may have clotting issues?

My latest is went to see the GP yesterday after having around four hours sleep. He gave me a prescription for decongestant spray and co-codamol and an anti-b. He asked me to hold off on the anti-b to see if the ear infection was going away on its own.
So last night I woke up exactly when the pain killers wore off. Couldn't hear and felt very nauseaus and started to freak out. Took some decongestants and nasal spray and began to shake uncontrollably, probably because I had an empty stomach. I'm a touch on the claustrophobic side and found the deafness and ringing in my head just too much to take and ended up having to breathe into a bag. Don't mind pain or whatever, but this is too much. So went for the anti-bs today and started them at lunchtime.
I just want to have a bit of sleep. Actually cried this afternoon because I felt so fed-up and DS was being a bum!
I think it is starting to work now, so relieved.

Thanks Rowing - you sound like you're really in the wars - hope the anti B's work soon. My DH is on them at the mo and they usually do the trick.

I found this quote - 'Implantation will generally take place about 5 days on average after conception. The fertilized embryo needs time to travel down the fallopian tube while dividing. On the fifth day it will become a blastocyst. Only then can it implant into the uterine wall, which occasionally causes implantation bleeding.'

Of course I have no idea who typed this or how qualified they are but I'm hoping it's right. HD says for me to stop googling it and just wait and see and be positive - huh easy for him to say

Thanks Hippy,
if implantation bleeding can occur on day 5 then it could be couldn't it! That would be cool!
I had read it was later, but these things always seem to vary from site to site.
People on the IVF forums have all sorts of bleeding going on, it's nuts!

Hello all - sorry you're still feeling rotten, Rowing x.

My sister's baby boy arrived today, back home in NZ, and I'm delighted for her - this is her first child. My four year old nephew is already jealous! Interesting that all three of us girls have had our babies - all boys - by emergency c section. And one thing our family body shape has, is childbearing hips! Ain't life funny.

Pat42, your positivity is just what I need to read. I'm going to be on a mission now too. Thanks!

what do you all know about preseed? Is it any good? Why does it work? Anyone had any success with it?