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dh and I are having a last push at ttc. we are giving it either a year or another mc before we give up (haven't told gp ) so i have decided to reopen the anti-testing thread!

morning notintheknow,

lol about seduction how long have you both been together? We're at 14 1/2 yrs and like you just 'get down to it'.

Watched it last night felt very disheartened wish id never seen it! AF is due tommorrow and now i feel she will come and i wont get a bfp, yet yesterday i felt so positive even had indigestion for no reason! I told dh this morning again that i dont think i am pg and typical male response was 'well that will be ok cause u need to lose weight and give up smoking and get your body ready!' needless to say he didnt get a cup of coffee this morning and has skulked of to work!

I will give up smoking in fact tommorrow seems perfect as for losing weight yep im overweight but so is he!? grr sorry rant over!

Go Shirley - I would have certainly forgotten the coffee - ignore him! Giving up smoking is a great idea but don't let his comments worry you. If you get that bfp it will be such an incentive! I really have everything crossed for you!
Nunnie - hope you enjoyed your drink.
Lissie - any news?
Annie - hope you had a good nights sleep.
Keep strong - [hugs all round]

thanks joycey i just had a major rant over in relationships about him and our background. I thought it would be nice to have some 'morning loving' and what does he say 'i cant be bothered!' So i said a baby doesnt make himself, to which he replies 'you cant get pg at the time of the month anyway!' lol I actually just wanted some loving time! never mind. Why i even bought the baby comment into it i dont know

hows you today?

I'm good! Not being sick yet so quite happy! Look on the brightside - atleast he knows your cycle which shows he must have paid some attention to the ttc! Men don't normaly have a clue.
Understand the need for loving must be hard when it centres round ttc.
Hope the rant helps - it usually does!
[big hug]

Ahh you do sounds happy its lovely! LOL DH knows my body more than i know it myself. Ussually him asking if 'im due on' lol I'll ask him to tell me if he thinks af will come in next day or so. its cd27 today so must be anytime. Was reading somewhere about pg symptoms being so similar to af isn't that annoying!! Why cant we just turn blue or something!! Then none of this faffing about, id rather be blue than clasp at every symptom and not know! LOL

LOL at being blue - difficult to keep a secret for first 12 months... maybe blue down below would be better.......

12 weeks i assume?? Yeah blue down below that sounds better, wont look like a smurf then!

Awww, you ladies have really cheered me up! LOL at blue down below/smurfs!

Shirley I'll join you in the giving up smoking if you like? I've been on and off all year so far (off for the 2ww, and then back on again) but I think the time has come to give up properly... DH hates it and I really ought to do it sooner rather than later.

Notintheknow - I temped this morning, went back to sleep and now I can't remember what it was. What a waste of bleep bleep bleep! The only thing I can remember thinking is oh, it's less then yesterday, does that mean I'm ovulating? Gonna POAS later to see what comes up. And then try to persuade DH to get down to it!

Annie glad to hear your feeling a bit better this morning.

Lissie any news yet? I really hope it's a BFP for you.

Nunnie hope you enjoyed your beer.

pistachio when u thinking of quiting? Ive already got the inhalator stick kits and everything i need, was thinking tommorrow........ Def happy to do with you and support each other.

Yeah, I'll do tomorrow. Do you get the inhilator sticks from the chemist? I tried patches a few years ago but they gave me terrible nightmares so this time I've just been doing willpower, but I know it turns me into a complete bitch for the first few days!

So what's the plan? No more cigs after tonight?

Shirley - we've only been married 2.5 years so really no excuse for the lack of seduction techniques on my part except that he usually doesn't need convincing... Looks like the every other day technique is a non-starter then. My fault really for not being up for it enough in the past. Will have to resort to POAS.

Anyway, nice helpful comment from your DH this morning then!?! Still, impressive cycle knowledge.

Pistachio - good luck with jumping DH later, hope you do a better job than me!

Sounds like a great plan! See if you can get an appt with your nurse as the sticks are expensive. I got 4 packets from nurse on prescription so less than £8. Maybe buy a starter pack the cheapest to last till you can get to your doctor/nurse they are very supportive and will def give you a prescription esp when you tell them you are ttc. saves lots of money i think they're over £12 a pack so i got £48 worth saving £40!
Thankyou!!! be nice to give up with someone else

notintheknow - Hiya! Gah im gonna ignore the comment on reflection he didnt mean anything harsh im sure, hes very ratty in the mornings before work

You'll have to find a way of bd'ing every other day i know i will next month. Irrelevant of ovulation dates, get him used to it. But take my sisters advice and enjoy it rather than it being a chore

morning ladies, going up town to get hpt later, or migt do it tomorrow (not that im outting it off of course) glad you are feeling better annie

shirley, i bully dh into sex now

watched great sperm race and thought it was good, pissed off that there are a billion programmes about ttc when "normal" fertile couple, and nothing about ttc when things are a tad more complex.

That's a v good plan shirley. Have appt with doc for later today to talk about ttc etc, not sure if it'll serve any purpose but wanted to feel I was doing something constructive.

Already have some of the cheap ebay tests, tried them for the first time last month but the results seemed a bit odd so maybe the prescription ones are easier to use? (Also, I used up half the pack because my cycle is so irregular so will prob need some more sooner or later anyway.)

Now I really have to do some work...

Lissie your only just going out to get it! ive been waiting for your bfp all morning
Hmm bully into sex, yeah maybe i should try that! Although if im honest i never really made an effort in the past we just got in that 'rut' but the last month ive made more than an effort than in the last 2 years or so. no point in lying and saying we have a great sex life and have sex 5 times a week etc etc. We dont and once or twice a month was our usual amount. Id say were doing rather well between 8/10 times last month

notintheknow tescos has an offer on tests 4 tests for £9 last week not sure if offer is still on though.

Get some work done! Im not doing anything today till i actually go to work

ooh will nip up to tescos!

the prob is shirley, im scared to test now. i hate testing after my period, just in case its a bfp and i have to go through the whole "is it an ep, am i pg" thing

tbh dh and i did get into a bit of a rut, but have both tried to liven things up recently.

Lissie, go now, I can't wait, the suspense is killing me!

Good idea Shirley, I shall pop to the chemist later and make an appt with the nurse (which is conveniently next door to the chemist).

Jumping DH is slightly more complicated at the moment not only have we also got into a massive rut (more ditch like than rut in truth) BUT to top it off, his brother is staying with us - he sort of moved in for two weeks but has now been with us for 3 1/2 weeks and shows no signs of moving out! Anyhow, we'll have to find a way to get him out the house first - DH says (sorry tmi alert) it's ok we'll just be super quiet (oh god, I'm cringing) but I feel really awkward about it! Aargh!

aww lissie well i dont know what to say other than you wont know for sure unless you do test. My twin had an ep, ruptured tube had it removed i think and conceived a month later with my nephew so good stories can happen , then she conceived 2 years later with my other nephew.

I wish you all the luck, really hope you get bfp and it all turns out to be a perfect pregnancy Sending you baby dust as you really deserve it!

Sorry Lissie, cross post. Hope it all works out too... if you test at least you'll know one way or another and you can get on with things.

lol pistachio that made me laugh. When my brother stayed for 2 months one morning he commented about our 'nightime activities' tough i told him its what comes with being married. Cousin stayed over the other night and and other than creaking bed (cringe) we had a lovely time, she didnt mention anything in the morning!dont worry about him being in the house, failing that ask him to go to the pud or something so you get some alone time.

I know its difficult sweet to change routines but making an effort has certainly made me feel good.

i know i need to test, but im really scared. lost left tube in 2007 to an ep and had lost of post op complications. im a big chicken at heart.

Aww well lissie whatever happens we'll still be here to chat.

HI Lissie, what did you decide? to test or not to test that is the question
We're all here for you either way.
Shirley and Pistachio - go the non-smokers - we will help you through the bitchy stage you can always rant on MN!!