July/August baby threads, where are you now? Wishing, Sunnydale, Homeinthesun, Headfairy, Bubble, etc..

[Issy42]

Please don't be offended if you're not named, you're still welcome, I just have a rubbish memory. I can see a couple of you on November thread but there's a whole load of people not there. Just wondering if you wanted a little thread to keep in touch?

Headfairy - just replied to you on grapefruit thread. So sorry about your sad news. Was hoping a new thread might provide you with support from old friends.

And Sunnydale, I know you're wary of new threads, so though you might also like the company of old friends.

Wishing and Bubble having your weird long cycles and missing whole month's threads, thought this might be one for you too.

So what do you say? I'll start a list just in case:

Issy, ttc#1, cycle 14, ucl 28ish, cd 23/10dpo, mc Mar08, cp Sep08, IVF in April.

Congratulations Issy!!! Glad you're officially a bfp. I hope the viability scan goes well. I've got mine on Monday, and time has slowed to a standstill. Oh well, while it's creeping by like this at least I'm not getting any older

Bubble that pain sounds worrying, I hope you get some answers soon. Can you not take a bunch of toys in to the docs with you to occupy your ds? I always do, ds is still a nightmare but I think what the hell, these doctors are here to help me, even if it means ds dismantling their office!

Irish being Italian I'm also a fervently praying Catholic Try not to be too A La Carte, but can't help it sometimes. When in need... Must go to mass a bit more often though... (there's that Catholic guilt )

Blue poor you.. I haven't been sick, but then I didn't with ds. I just get raging hunger/nausea. Last time I was shattered, but as I'm shattered all the time it's hard to tell where normal working mother of toddler tiredness ends and pregnancy tiredness starts.

sunny bding every day for five days over my fertile period has been my tried and tested method of getting pg. It's worked four times now, but everyone's different I guess. Glad you've come round to my way of thinking WRT late testing It's just my silly superstition though, I've got bfps on cd 32 four times now... never got a bfn because I've never tested earlier, but of course Issy is right too, if you're pg then you're still pg on the day your period's due.

Righty, The Apprentice has just started, gotta dash... hello to everyone. xxxx

Hi all,

I I hope you missed me. Am finally catching up after being away in the Cotswalds with dh and ds last week and coming back to some work I really should have done whilst on holiday. Only now do I have some MN catch up time - and it?s taken quite a while!

I have taken the precaution of writing this post in Notepad as I have posted big posts straight in before and then my connection died as I was posting.

Firstly Issy I am so hoping happy that you and your lovely little blastocysts have settled in together! That picture was amazing and I was so happy to read you had a BFP after all the pain of IVF. I just hope that the time until the scan passes quickly!

Bubble you sound like you having a nightmare. Inclined to agree that if you ar that much pain you need to get it checked out pronto. Going back to your thoughts on missing ovulation I have also read that the odd annovulatory cycle isn't uncommon. I expect that isn't much comfort at the moment. You want answers as anyone would. I just hope it was a one off and that your GP can give you some more substantive info this month. Are you definitely starting on the Clomid? I'm not 100% convinced I ov'd on the first one or two cycles after my mc even though I got positive OPK's. That's why I started temping last month and it has been really interesting. I hope the doctor today goes well.

Irish well I hope you still have some energy left! I chuckled at the drill sergeant comment ? I have been much the same this month. You mention that your temps are all over the shop ? I find mine are drastically affected by really small things. If I have more than 1 drink the night before for example, or if I am in a strange bed. I had a slightly boozy night on Saturday when some friends came over for supper and got a v peculiar reading the next morning, exacerbated by the fact that I kept waking in the night which I invariably do if I have drunk a bit more. My readings when we were away were also much higher than usual.

Head Not long to go until scan day. I hope you have a sparkly clean house now! I like cleaning too at times. I switched to non toxic cleaning stuff a few months ago and I clean more often now as I like the smell! Its can certainly be therapeutic. Hope you enjoyed The Apprentice ? I did!

Blue oh boy morning sickness sucks. I guess the only reassuring thing is that it means your hormones are rocketing which has to be good news. I get quite strong nausea just after ovulation and just before and after my AF starts. If I ever manage to get a BFP I might have to borrow your book! I had it quite bad with ds and it felt miserable at the time. Thats how I knew something wasn?t right last time ? never had any.

Jumping I hope you are feeling good and that you have found a way to manage the inevitable anxiety.

Sunny opinion seems to be split on how often you should have sex when ttc. Some say the every 2-3 days is fine. Others seem to say thats only an issue if you partner has a low sperm count. It would be so much easier with clear instructions wouldn?t it?! When we got pg with ds we were at it every day or more because we were newlyweds! With my 2nd that I lost we only managed a couple of times around about the right time. Our current thinking is every 3 days or so until I get my positive OPK then once a day or more for the next 3 days. We?ll see how long it takes to work!

Girl I am convinced that EPO is quite effective stuff and could have brought your ovulation forward. I got a positive OPK on CD13 this month which is the earliest it?s been to my knowledge since ds was born. I started an exercise regime this month ? I think maybe this has done something positive. When we conceived ds I was a real gym bunny and I have done fark all since. I have started a program from a book called ?Get Fit not Fat? (loved the title) and I think it has affected my ovulation. As far as I am concerned the shorter my cycle, the better.

Right I had better go as this post is just ridiculously long. Sorry to anyone I haven?t replied to.

Hello All
Issy, so happy your BFP is now "official". It has cheered me up and given me hope. It is always a proud moment when someone on MN "graduates" after you've been following their stories for so long. So now I can ask all the usual qq: how do you feel? Sick? Tired? Elated? All three?!
Thanks everyone who replied about how often to BD when TTC. Really interesting. I did have another q to "throw to the room" , but I've forgotten it now. Would love to think my bubble brain is a sign of pregnancy but unfortunately, it's more likely just a sign of bubble brain.
So, more advice, please. Am on CD29 of a cycle that is usually 28 - 32 days long. Does that mean I can officially test without being classed a flapping, obsessive nutter? I don't actually have any tests in the house, but am torn between buying one tomorrow and just sitting it out till CD32. I don't think I can bear to test and it's a BFN: I'll feel so stupid for even bothering. I don't even know if I feel PG or not: it could just be acute PMT or too many Heinz beans for dinner. But I do feel a little strange. Mind you, who doesn't when AF is due. Anyway, that's where I'm at tonight. Hope the rest of you are well - dang, not even an Apprentice to watch to take my mind off it! Might watch that C4 documentary The Homecoming. And the chances of remaining dry-eyed over that one are...

Headfairy LOL at the Catholic Guilt - I'm right on that wagon with you.

Bubble hope you are feeling ok and you get soem answers soon. it must be wrecking your head.

WASABI - I did miss you, was wondering where you had gone and was just going to post today saying does anybody know where is wasabi is. But you beat me to it - hope you had lovely holidays.

Sunny I would test but... there is always a caveat on that - can you bear it if it's a BFP?

Well after two looonngg days of testing of new systems (most of which failed completely ) I am going home to my lovely DH who is coming to collect me! Am absolutely wrecked but it's CD14 so will have to do something

Sunny - I tested on CD 27 of a 28 day cycle as my pre-BFP bad mood was in full flow. I don't get PMT so I knew something was a-foot hormonally. Head is very strong and doesn't test until CD 32 and I admire that, the later you test the closer to 12 weeks you are! As Issy says though a BFP is a BFP but sadly some BFPs turn out to be v. v. early mc... Rather have AF than BFP then AF... hell I'm waffling now.

Issy - how did it go today? Was today not your official BFP day at the clinic?

wasabi - glad to see you back rested from your hols and BD at all the right times .

bubble how did it go at the docs yesterday?

Irish - Happy CD14 to you and your DH jump to it girl!

Head - not long now...

Argh don't say that Blue the wait is killing me!

JJF - How did the midwife go today? I hope it wasn't too awful for you in the waiting room.
Bubble - Doh! My pg brain must have already set in. Had just read another MNer had an ectopic so think I had it on my mind. How are you feeling now?
Irish - Hope you managed to enjoy CD 14. Lol at the a la carte-ness of your catholicism, I'm an atheist but found myself praying to thin air a lot recently.
Blue - Hope you're in control of the ms. Yes it was my OTD today, but they made the mistake of telling me it was +-2 days so I tested Wednesday.
Head - Monday will be here before you know it, will be thinking of you.
Wasabi - Welcome back, where in the Cotswolds were you? Well done on starting exercise.
Sunny - Did you cave or are you being strong? I am elated but also scared of another mc.

Ms has kicked in. Started Tues eve after I only had light meals all day and was really bad on Wednesday. Better since, but I start worrying everytime it disappears. (.)(.) also varying a lot in tenderness, so I'm having to learn not to worry each time the symptoms diminish. Did another test this morning (clinic says to do one two days after first). Had a real panic as woke up after about 4 hours sleep and tested but wee was very dilute (always piap not poas) and only got a 1-2 on the CB digi even though now 18dpo equivalent. After 3 sleepless hours got up and piap again - was much darker so used the FR and got a much darker line than two days ago, so used another CB digi too and that was 2-3. I know it's good to drink all the water I drink but it does cause me anxiety, didn't often get proper positive on OPKs and now getting faint pg test results.

Hi everyone else.

Hello all
Thanks for all your good advice. Blue, completely agree with you about having AF rather than BFP then AF... which is precisely why I haven't tested yet. Tomorrow will be CD31, the day AF is due. Am toying with testing, but can't decide which is better: a potential BFN and an end to all this foolish imagining, or another weekend of indulgent dreaming and hoping. I mean, maybe this is as close as I'll ever get to another baby: dreaming and hoping. At least at this stage I have my dreams. A BFN will dash them to the ground. How silly do I sound? The thing is, I have already convinced myself - almost on a cellular level - that I'm PG. For a start, I don't have PMT: usually I feel murderous, but this cycle I feel happy and calm. I feel like there's something happening inside. Can you imagine how ridiculous I'm gonna feel when I turn out to be wrong? I know you'll all understand, though. I've not said a cheep to DH or anyone else in RL. Promise not to laugh at me when I post again with my BFN, okay?!
Issy, how many days PG are you now? Sorry about the MS. I didn't get it, so I don't really have any tips. I did used to feel queasy, but an oatcake sorted me out. Have you tried one in the morning?
Head, will be thinking of you on Monday. Do you have MS too? Anyone else?
Bubble, how did you get on at the dr? Hope he had some help to give you. And Irish, hope you're having fun with your DH. Happy Friday night to all - dunno about you, but I'm vv glad the weekend is here. Heck, I may even watch Eurovision tomorrow night (though not the same without Wogan)

Hi everyone!

Hf wishing you all the luck in the world that scan goes well.

issy when is your viability scan?

irish good luck with the bd marathon that awaits

How is everyone else?

doing anything nice this weekend?

Well.. thurs morn i had a bit of a wobble.. started crying and blurted everything out to my mum. It was nice to get everything off my chest and get a hug afterwards. She said to just forget about it for a while and that i should go to the dr when i get back from our holdiay. Which is what i am going to do. still no AF and the cramps arent as bad as before so just going to wait and see what happens over the next few weeks.

Hello everyone... well another weekend at work for me Still, only got the rest of today and tomorrow and then I'm off for two weeks! yipeeeee! Still, tonight's going to be a bugger, we're not on until after the Eurovision song contest so I'm going to be here all night if it over runs

Thanks for kind words bubble - so sorry this has all been so trying for you, I hope your cry and offload to your mum helped. It always works for me. She gave you some good advice there, I hope you have a lovely holiday.

sunny you don't have to worry about being wrong about being pg or not to us, we've all done it. If I had a pound for every month I was convinced I was pg... well I'd at least be able to get myself a slap up meal Oh and if it helps I've done it every month even the ones when I was pg....

HFs heart: "you're definitely pg, sore boobs - check, bloating - check, tired - check..."

HFs head: "don't be so bloody stupid, you do this every month, put us through agony convincing us, and really it's just af on her way"

HFs heart: "no but honestly, this time it's different..."

HFs head: "yadda yadda yadda"

I have had the occasional bout of ms, but I've had a stomach bug ds thoughtfully passed on to me, terrible runs, so it's been hard to discern which is which. I didn't have masses of nausea with ds, just the odd bout accompanied by rampant hunger! I do have nipples the size of organ stops though They're permenantly erect so I think I'm sending very confusing messages to the chaps at work

Issy I hope the ms isn't too awful. It's worth it though, just think ms=lots of lovely pregnancy hormones! I always had panics when I was pg with ds, I used to think Oh my God I don't feel sick any more, what if I'm about to mc... then I'd be gagging ten minutes later - which would shut me up I'm also tempted to do more tests and see if the line is still really dark.... I have to confess to doing one at about 6 weeks and 4 days. After my little bleed. Very dark line appeared immediately. That did reassure me but I'm still counting the hours, minutes and seconds to Monday morning. I'll be the first in the queue, banging on the door at 7am

Hello to everyone else... hope you're all well. Have a good weekend xx

Hi everyone

Head good, good luck for the scan tomorrow- I am sure everything will be fine, but will be thinking of you.

wasabi welcome back! My sister and I are taking my Mum to the Cotswolds for a weekend in July, I've never been but it looks soooo beautiful. Hope you are feeling re-energised and positive upon your return, even with the work hanging over you!

issy so glad you're still getting ther BFPs!! Welcome to the joys of the first trimester! Still of course keeping all crossed for you & the beans xx

irish hope you managed to find some energy to commence the BDing marathon!

sunny like HF we used to try to BD every day over my fertile period (although wasn't entirely sure when that was) but all my BFPs have come from the months when we didn't time anything but had sex at least every 2 days over the cycle (and tried to have "gourmet" non-babymaking style sex iykwim!). As hard as it is, I do think it's the cycles when you're the most chilled out/forgetful about TTC that seem to be most successful, as infuriating as that is!

Blue how are you holding up with the sickness?

Bubble how are you feeling today? I really hope the pain stays away and something happens soon. Keep focusing on your hols, I'm sure they'll do you a wonder of good.

Well quite a lot has happened here. Went down to the hospital on Thurs and they sent me in to see my consultant's registrar to review me- she scanned me straightaway as said that bean is definitely 11 weeks, not 10 (going by both size and development). She was then concerned that the CVS date was later than it needs to be, since they can do them from 11 weeks. Cue much talking on phone to consultant who'll do the CVS and him coming down to meet me. Basically they decided they'll give it a go tomorrow . I am in many ways very relieved it's sooner than the 29th, but now also terrified. He did say there's a slim chance my bowel may not have moved out of the way yet in which case he'd postpone it back to the 29th but he won't know until he tries, and he's fairly hopeful. The genetics results will then be back on either friday or tuesday following (5 working days, darn the bank holiday monday!). So perhaps within a week I will now what the future holds for this pregnancy. The reality is hitting quite badly now and I'm finding it hard to sleep etc...but so glad the decisions will be made within the next 10 days.
We've had DH's parents staying up this weekend as it's the NorthWest 200 (motorbike racing) and I am finding it so hard to keep all this from them, especially as v nauseous at the mo and swear my boobs are much, much bigger already... Plus tomorrow's events are very much playing on my mind. At least it won't be much longer hopefully until this waiting & secrecy is over.

I have to rest for the following 48hrs after the test so won't be back online (at work!) until Wednesday but will of course keep you posted and thank you so much for your support on our journey so far.

Love to you all xxxx

jumping i will be thinking of you tomorrow. Im keeping everything crossed that all goes well and the reults are good news.

HF Not long now!! 1 more sleep (as ds1 puts it) Im sure everything will be fine. I will be waiting here tomorrow to hear the news

not in pain anymore but AF hasnt shown up either.

Wanted to ask your opinions....

I wanted to go and visit my aunt for a week in cyprus. I usually go alone and have a relaxing time but this year i thought i would take ds1 and next year ds2

Do you think its wrong not taking both at the same time?

DH wouldnt be coming anyway and is capable of looking after ds2 but i am just worrying that its not fair.

my aunt and uncle dont have kids of their own and arent understanding to mess and noise so thought 1 of the boys at a time wouldnt be too intrusive??? (They arent ogres just set in their ways i guess )

Hi everyone.... jumping a billion good luck wishes for tomorrow and the outcome. I do so hope everything's ok. Take it easy and try and enjoy your enforced relaxation afterwards, pretty impossible not to think about it, but I hope you can find something to occupy your mind until the results come through. I hope we both have happy outcomes tomorrow.

Bubble - I'm glad you're not in pain any more, I hope af shows herself soon enough. Thanks for your kind message. I'm so flipping nervous now it's not true. I'm sitting here at work all weekend with not a lot to do and trying not to think about it. On the positive side, I've just applied for a job I can't possibly do pregnant, so Sod's law means it'll all be ok.

WRT Cyprus... remind me again of the ages of your ds's? If ds2 is old enough to understand will he appreciate the problem? Can you promise him a lovely day out to a place of his choosing just for him when you come back (as well as the trip next year)?

I'm off to twiddle my thumbs and not think about you know what... Perhaps I can apply for a firefighters job or something

Have a good Sunday everyone xxxx

Hello All
Jelly, good luck for tomorrow - I've had a CVS and it's fine - the thought of it is much worse than the actual procedure itself. It is honestly over in a second - it's just the build up that feels scary. You'll feel so relieved when it's over. Thinking of you.

Head, thinking of you too - it WILL be fine. It WILL. Thanks also for your funny post about always thinking you're pg. I'm glad I'm not alone on that one! It really cheered me up, because of course AF arrived in full effect on Saturday morning. LOL at my "convinced... almost on a cellular level" post on Friday night. Say what?! What a silly woman I am. Very gutted but no point being blue about it - that won't get me pg, will it! Am trying to look on bright side: at least AF is regular, which is something I suppose.

Bubble, it's not wrong coz your motives are pure - you are just trying to appease your aunt and uncle, after all. How old are your DS's? Maybe it might even be nicer, or more special, for them each to go individually with you? You could even draw straws to see who goes first? (realise this may not be practical, depending on their ages). Have a lovely hols anyway.

Hello to everyone else. Am watching that Samantha Morton drama - not exactly cheerful viewing but v interesting all the same.

Just a quickie for me as am cream crackered and off to bed but just wanted to wish Jumping and Head all the very best for tomorrow.

Well, nearly everything.

Also too tired to catch up properly, but just popping on to wish Jumping and Head good luck for tomorrow.

Just a sneaky post at work to wish Head and Jumping all the best today. Sending lots of positive vibes xx

Sunny - sorry TEW showed up - she is a right cow. I couldn't watch any of the 'children in care' dramas that have been on as just end up crying and feeling helpless for them all . I'm such a woos wince I had DS.

at wasabi and nearly everything crossed -

Sunny sorry AF got you - but as you said there's a bright side to knowing it's reguilar.

Bubble my parents used to take different ohildren on holiday at different times. Now they had 9 kids and a shop that they couldn't leave unmanned so it made sense but even from a young age we were all told why and it was fine for us. HTH.

Head and Jumping hope you both are ok and that everything goes well. sending positive vibes your way - good luck.

I'm in a bit of a black mood today - not sure why but hopefully will snap out of it soon. The way I'm feeling I'd fight with a saint. - ah that's better think I needed to just say it.

Hello everyone, thanks so much for all your kind thoughts. They obviously did the trick as I got to see my little bean today, all present and correct, the right size, good strong heartbeat and looking good. I'm so relieved I can't begin to tell you. The poor thing has been flooded with adrenaline all morning and I think is now getting flooded with seratonin or something. The sonographer did say that I still have about a 5-10% chance of mc, but I'll take those odds for now. They're so lovely at the EPU, told me to come back in any time and have another scan just for reassurance, so I'm quite tempted to pop back in a couple of weeks.

Sunny I'm sorry af showed up. I'm v impressed at your positive attitude.

Irish sorry to hear you're in a black mood, I hope it lifts soon. I find large quantities of chocolate help in these dire emergencies

Jumping I hope the cvs went ok and wasn't too uncomfortable. Take it easy and rest up. Hopefully the next five days won't be too agonising.

Hello to everyone else... have a lovely day, I will be lurking around as ds is at the cm today and I'm off with not a lot to do but potter and mnet!

oh Head that is just lovely news , so delighted for you and your DH. I will continue to squeeze your hand until mid June though just to be on the safe side .

Irish - embrace that foul mood, it makes you feel better .

I'm getting hypnotherapy tomorrow. I'm really struggling emotionally in general and physically with the ms. My doctor suggested it a few weeks back when I was hyperventilating all over him. i need some coping mechanisms as I can't help but 'prepare' myself for it all going wrong and its draining me. I've been throwing up three times a day and keep thinking how cruel it is to go through this only for it to go wrong anyway... I am in dire need of a positive mental attitude so its off to the shrink for me .

Anyhoo

Thanks for the squeezy hand holding Blue. so sorry you've been so stressed. I hope the hypnotherapy helps. Are you worried about miscarrying or are you being worn down by the ms which is causing you to get stressed? Either way, I do hope the hypnotherapy helps.

Blue I don't know why I haven't looked before, but I've just peeked at your profile. Wow you are gorgeous woman! And your ds is totally adorable, what amazing blue eyes. It's such a lovely picture of the two of you.

Just felt I had to say that... as you were

oh shucks Head - here you've got me all ! Let's just say the photos were carefully edited to show me in a (ahem) good light! Of course DS needs no such lighting as he is beuuutiful

I'm worried senseless about mc again. Can't help it, so need to reboot my brain. Have had several incidences of light brown discharge which just sets me off the richter scale even though I know taking asprin (as I am on back of consultant advice) can cause some slight bleeding.

Hopefully after tomorrow I will become all zen like and chilled... At £35 per session I bloody better be!

Well if it's down to good lighting I want some of that lighting

I do so know what you mean about the fretting. the sonographer said I had about a 5-10% chance of mc now, which is a lot better than 25-30% but still not low enough for my liking. I thought if you saw a heartbeat at 8 weeks your risk went down to 2%. So I'm still frantically knicker checking. I hope the hypnotherapy does the trick chillwise. I'm still feeling very detached from this pregnancy on purpose... don't think I'll allow any more baby thoughts until I'm through at least 12 weeks if not 14.

I can't remember, have you been referred for an early scan to put your mind at rest? We're fortunate enough in that I can just self refer to the EPU here, but I would have thought if your GP has seen how stressed you are, enough to refer you for some therapy, then surely you qualify for a reassurance scan?

I've had two already Head - one at 6+3 due to emotional meltdown and one at 7+2 due to brown discharge (which did show good growth and right for dates etc). Having another when I should be 9+3 but feel I'm tempting fate even writing this down - that's how stressed I am!

You know am I a loony as these forums are supposed to be for us to vent our fears but I get all stressed talking about my darkest fears so don't write about it for fear of tempting fate. I've been burned before and had to leave 2 x ante-natal threads and 1 x pg after mc thread so find myself keeping it all to myself which isn't healthy. I remember posting how I was asking for a reassurance scan at 9 weeks then mc the next week and feeling so and at myself for talking about it.

Hence the need for me to seek help!