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Over here ladies! Will try and link to here.

HC
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Hi Dawni,

i plan to stay here if i can it seems like such a nice thread and some lovely people on here. its so nice to speak to people about how you feel and know that they know how you feel too. Although friends and family try they realy cant understand if they haveent been through it.

Your poor DH too it must be so hard for him being in so much pain all the time. i hope there is something they can do for him.

I must go now havee o go shopping will pop on later to catch up.
i realy hope we can become friends that would be so nice

welcome Ray. Sorry to hear you have had such a tough 5 years. Hope you have some luck soon.

Dawni if it worries you no harm in getting checked out. Much better to do that than have it playing on your mind. To hopefully reassure you a bit, I have had treatment for abnormal cervical cells in the past but this just showed on a smear-there was nothing external to indicate a problem (actually that probably doesn't sound that reassuring!)

Bluestar-meant to say yesterday but did not have time, really hope you can get treatment earlier than two years, even if the costs are eye watering. At risk of banging on about the same experience in my life 100 times, when I had my termination I was shocked and angry at how many of my friends did not call me or even text to see how I was. I think people are worried about saying the wrong thing so many of them say nothing. I found that when you are struggling unfortunately you often have to still make the first move as it were, and guide people in how to deal with you. You may well have to call your friends rather than the other way round. On the positive side, I did find other people that I was not initially so close to were wonderful (they had all been through bereavements so I guess that makes a difference)-maybe you will need to lean on different people to the ones you would have expected to count on.

Anyway must go-boys are asleep so getting some peace and quiet. Have been feeling swamped the last couple of days-of course I should not complain but I so rarely get time to myself they were all driving me mad yesterday. Am still thinking about my 22 year old cousin saying 'I cannot remember you really before you had children'. I know the feeling!

Keep on posting Ray

Its ok *MM...Even if it turns out to be nothing, is best to know isnt it xx

Of to docs

D xx

Hello all,

Ray, welcome to this thread. It has been such a massive support to me through TTC and MC. Am 25 weeks PG today with my first baby so all of this is new to me. Luckily virtually everyone on this thread (except a couple of ladies) have had DC before so can give me hints and tips when the time comes. I wish you lots of luck on your continued TTC journey and sorry that it has been so hard for you... But you're in the right place now!!

Ceebee, try not to worry too much about scarring... I had chickenpox when I was 10 and picked them constantly. I just ended up with one tiny scar on my chin and you can't even notice it at all now!! Oh pleeeease have a duvet day for me!! I have no work to do yet need to stay by the PC in case something comes up. I am sooooo bored!! But I don't want to fall into the "Boredom leads to unnecessary internet shopping" trap!!.

Dawni, you are absolutely right to get it checked out by the nurse, I'm sure it's nothing but where's the harm. A piece of advice though - REFRAIN FROM GOOGLING!!! I'm sure Google is the work of some dark-being as it brings nothing but worry and misery I feel. You haven't got long to wait now. Make sure you come on later and let us know what the nurse said!! Good luck!!

Detox, what a nightmare for you. Lucky that she's feeling Ok though and not grouchy. Hope she gets better soon though...

Wilmouse - Ooops - maybe your little one is saying that they don't like you being on MN!! Eek... Hope things are going slightly better today!!

Majormoo, we had pancakes last night aswell - I made the batter mix but DH cooked them - they were bloody lovely!! Hmmm, I'm hungry now....

Where's HC and CE today?

Anyway news on my sis. She went home last night after some more steroids and had to go back in this morning. They have changed her dates now and brought them forward by a couple of weeks which explains the size of the baby etc.

But there is now another crisis (it's always the way with my sister) and I'm really concerned and very much need people's advice on this...

We currently have the same MW and because my sister has had various issues throughout this PG, her marriage and pretty much her life, the MW decided to pass the details onto Social Services. Well my Mum had a visit from SS today (for some reason my sister has registered herself at my Mum's address??!!) and they've investigated and decided that my sister's DH is a risk to children (he's been in prison but we don't really know what for...) so they're putting together a "pre-birth case conference" to discuss what's going to happen to their baby.

But the reason that I need advice is that I want to know whether my lovely DH and I may be affected by this aswell as we have the same MW? DH and I have worked so hard all our lives to build a good secure home to be able to have a child. Neither of us have ever been in trouble and we can't wait for Jelly to arrive and now I'm worried that by the silly actions of my sister and her DH, that we may be at risk of being tarred with the same brush.

Does anyone know how these things work or where I can go to get advice? Feeling really low and worried at the moment... .

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OMG DawnAS What a dilema, i really dont know but im sure just because you have the same MW it shouldnt make a difference to you and DH, you live seperate lives from your sis and her DH, it shouldnt effect you at all. Try not to worry too much and im sure someone else has better info to help but it is a totaly different case xx

Your right about GOOGLING, i saw some awful pics this morning re. cervix !!
Any hoo...Nurse & my doc says im fine, my smear would have been due in april, so she done that while i was there. Doc says there is 3 follicles on the tip of my cervix but its nothing to worry about and all looks healthy {WooHoo}

Later

D xx

Afternoon ladeez

A mahoosive welcome to ray81-crikey, you have had a journey too haven't you? Lots of luck to you.

DawnAS-I honestly do not think you will be affected in anyway. What happens to your DS and BIL is irrelevant to your circumstances. Must be a serious prison visit for SS to be informed though. What a mess.

Dawni-thank goodness all is well with your bits. Phew!

Today I bought a soft Fifi toilet shrinker, Kandoo Soap, training pull ups and a pack of 7 pants and 2 pairs of joggy bottoms. I mean business tomorrow (if I'm not too sick of course). Girls demanding pancakes again so better go and make a mix.

Back soon and big wave to all!

HC
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Hi all!

Ray81 - great to have a new recruit! I am the most recent gradute I am 6 + 4. This is a great thread - and very lucky!

Dawni - glad all is well and at least you got an MOT out of it!

Dawnas - I know it is easier said that done but I wouldn't worry about it. I can't imagine it will have any effect on you. My best friends' BIL was put on the sex offenders register (long story) and they never even considered extended family - now it can't get worse than that!

Potty update - only has a mistake if I am not in the room twice today. Dare I mention that he hasn't had a poo yet

HC - two pairs of joggers - PMSL - we are getting through about 5 a day here!

Hey all,

Thanks for your support again guys. I feel much better now.

Dawni, so pleased that everything is Ok with your cervix. Good that they saw you straight away and that's one thing you no longer need to worry about!!

HC, goodness, you are prepared!! I wish you hadn't mentioned pancakes - DH and I had them last night - now I want them again...

Wilmouse, I hope you haven't jinxed the toilet activity by mentioning it... eek!!

MJIM, hope you're Ok today hun!!

Big waves and hugs to everyone else.

Off to cook pork chops for tea - yum!!

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Lol Willmouse-am going for the pants only approach at first as easier to whip down and sit her on the potty. They do tend to hold onto the poos at first don't they? Not Sophie though-just uses the carpet.

Well, I sneaked a couple of pancakes in my mouth as nausea horrendous.

HC
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Good morning lovely ladies.....

Fertility Friend is doing my head in, it reckons im now only 3DPO, which would mean we have totaly missed the moment !!! I went by the clearblue fertility monitor, so heyho, i know im not pregnant, just feel the usual old me !! Didnt do much BDing this month, DH wasnt really up to it. Never mind eh maybe next time {rolls eyes}.

I cant find old friends on Facebook either, they will all be married and i dont know the married names !!! And it doesnt know either of my schools !!! Nothings ever bloody easy in this house {big sigh}. Im going for my hair highlighted and trimmed at 9.30

Hope you are all well

Much love

D xx

Oh Dawni-please don't despair hun. FF has a clear red line but if you have more than 1 temp below the coverline it will remove the crosshairs. FF isn't always right but if you are like me I used to believe it had to be right. Enjoy having you hair done and read some trashy magazines.

How is everyone else?

Have a good day all.

HC
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Morning

Am off to my first baby massage class this morning Hopefully it will cheer up ol' grumpy pants for a little while

Morning all

Potty training going OK now - still no poo though and I'm rather worried. Any advice????

HC - my thoughts are with you and your potty - I actually wish Ollie would just do a poo on the carpet - he must be really consipated!

Ceebee - good luck with baby massage!

Dawni - I think you are using too many methods to try and see if you have ovulated. Why don't you give FF a miss next month (if there is one) and just use your clearblue monitor?

Hi guys back this morn. You all are a bunch of wonderful people it makes me smile reading all your posts.

Had scan yesterday and all is well in that department i knew it would be as i had a Lap just over a year ago and was told that my womb and everything are perfectly heathy but at least that is out of the way.
I brought a book yesterday called 'Taking Charge of your fertility' and i must say it is very very interesting it talks about temping which i havent ever done but will start now and also about CM and checking for your fertile periods which i am also going to try, along with the clomid and SME plan etc etc puling out all the stops this month.

I dont know if anyone ever knew this, i didnt, but when you are temping if you have 18 days of high temp after Ov then you are pregnant. That will save on bloody pregnancy tests, it also helps to determine if you have a problem with falling and then miscarrying very early or even problems with CM. Just want to get going now but still have a week or so to wait. DOH

Dawni this book may help for you too it is very interesting and so bloody simple i cant believe i havent heard all the things in the book. Enjoy having your hair done make sure you relax you need it.

Willmouse, congrats on being a graduate i realy hope to join you soon. Any tips ?

HC thanks for the goodluck hopefully this thread will bring me some and i will be talking about babies soon too.

Bloody potty training! She has wet her pants and won't sit on the potty, just keeps tipping it upside down in temper. She wants a drink and I said not until I get a wee in the potty or on the toilet. Is this a bad mummy thing? She had already pooed before school so still had a nappy on. Willmouse-I suspect he will do one when he gets a nappy on.

ray-have heard that book is excellent. Yes, I did know that after OV your temp will remain high for 10-14 days and if AF due it will drop. If PG it will remain high. However, if you look at my positive chart you will see a dip on DPO 13 which made me think AF was starting. When I read up on this it is normal to have a dip when AF due and still be PG. Phew! Do you have a chart I can stalk follow like I do Dawni's. I actually miss the temp charting (well, only a bit) Oh, and I did that method I discovered on another thread-BD every other night starting on CD6 or CD8 then when you get a +ive OPK BD that night, the next, the next, then have a night off then again the next night.

HC
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Oh, and MS a tad more bearable but one of my AN ladies was told that a hormone surge from weeks 4-7 cause the sickness to be so bad then it starts to tail off a bit so being 9 weeks that would explain it-I hope!

HC
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Ray - did a combination of trying to BD every other night and CM checking. For me we BD on day13 then had loads of CM on day 15 so BD on day 15 and 16 and it worked!

HC - I am just going to let Ollie poo in a nappy. I remember letting Will do it for a few weeks until he felt comfortable doing it on the potty. In his defence I have put a nappy on him for his naps and to go on the school run and he hates weeing in there now. Happy to wee in trousers though . Day 1 and 2 were horrendous yesterday wasn't so bad and today would be bearable if it wasn't for the poo. Ollie is 3 at the end of March.

MJIM - don't talk about poo - you are making me jealous!

I'm back - the massage bit only lasted about 20 minutes and then we just chatted for a while. Sam seemed to enjoy it although he was far too busy nosying around at the other babies or holding the hand of the dummy baby the HV was using to demonstrate Hopefully he will go into a nice long sleep now

MJIM no idea why he is grumpy - has been for a couple of weeks - am beginning to think he is just a grumpy baby tbh. His default setting seems to be 'whinge' and me and DH joke that we can tell when he is asleep as he is quiet Just such a change from Josh who was always a very happy smily baby who rarely whinged or cried - but I guess they are all different eh? Good thing Sam sleeps so well at night otherwise I would be looking for a refund - I love him really!!

Willmouse I also reckon Ollie will poo in a nappy - I think that is quite common (not that I am an expert) - poor lad must be suffering a bit though.

Ray that book sounds fab and hopefully some of the tips will work for you. Glad the scan went well

HC I also heard that MS peaks at about 8-9 weeks and then starts to get gradually better - with both of my pgs it followed that pattern and was pretty much gone by 14 weeks.

HC i dont have a chart and i am not very good with this computer thingy but i will try and you can follow it. This will be my first month of temping and will have to start tomorrow so that will be CD4 i hope it wont effect it too much.

The last time i fell i was on clomid and we Bd from CD8, CD10, CD12 got +opk on CD14 so bded 2 times a day for 3 days then had a break and bded again. This seemed to work for us that time even though it ended in MC but at least we know the Clomid works. I have to take aspirin everyday as they think i have a problem with clotting, TMI alert but when i dont take aspirin i get ALOT of clots when i bleed so have been taking it for the last 3 months and hope it gives us a hand. I have noticed i dont clot when i take it so that is a good sign.

If i get stuck with the charting i'll give you a shout and you'll have to help. He he.

As with the potty training it has been rather along time since we did it but from what i remember it was pretty easy (sorry not glooting or anything. MUCH) How old is your little one again? Sorry memory is Shite!!! Emily was about 2.5 when we did it and she was ready we did try when she was about 2 but she was getting cross and couldnt get the hang of it, i realy didnt want it to be a bad experience and stress us both out and so i left it another 6 months and tried again and she was dry as soon as she stopped wearing nappies both night and day. I think when they are ready they will do it mainly on there own so perhaps the trick is to wait awhile?

Sorry to talk about symptoms - the nausea I can just about cope with but I feel absolutely and completely exhausted from the moment I wake up to the moment I go back to bed