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Bucky2008 · 19/11/2008 08:56

OK, so how about we start of on a positive....

I bought the test.

I did the test.

BFP .

Job done.

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Madoldbird · 08/06/2009 07:33

Caitni Is it EC today? If so, hope it goes really well. Thinking of you. X

GorgonsGin · 08/06/2009 08:47

Good morning lovely ladies!

I have been awake since 5am because DH went off to Amsterdam on an early flight for work and he woke me up at the crack of dawn for a slice of toast and my injection [exhausted emoticon]. Sorry that I have been away for a few days and not posted on the thread, although I've read through everything and all your exciting news! I've had a rotten, stinking, bl**dy cold This is not how it is supposed to be! I should not be ill during my free time away from wage slavery - only at work (when I am getting paid for it)! It's typical for me though - it happens every time I work extra hard or long - I come down with some dreadful lurgi as soon as I manage to relax again. In a fit of drama queen bahaviour at the weekend, I wailed to DH that I definitely had swine flu, because I felt like crap and I've had a craving for bacon sarnies all weekend . DH just laughed at me and thinks I am slightly over dramatisting . He's calling it Piglet Flu, or Swine Lite to wind me up

caitni - is is EC today? Time has absolutely FLOWN past . I am so excited for you and your DH. I have EVERYTHING crossed for you and I love the phrase "eyes on the prize". You have done everything right and I have such a good feeling for you. I hope you managed to have a lovely relaxing weekend before yoru big day. Any more gardening? Please come back later and let us know how you are doing. I'll check back later to see how you are doing. It looks like my EC will be right at the end of the month.

MrsH - A little girl courgette!!! . How is absolutely lovely I am so pleased that the hospital was reassuring about the size of the baby's head. When do you start work again? Do they need a temp?

MOB - how is twin #2 - is he growing away in there and staying put? I hope so Hope you and the family had a lovely weekend and that you are enjoying as much time with your feet up as possible.

Jolly - wow, your daughter is a stunning wee girl! She is going to have everyone wrapped round her finger, she is so cute. I bet you're stopped by old ladies in the street cooing over her in her buggy.

Bucky - I have replied "yes" to the meet up invite. I have a googlemail address now, but my facebook updates go to my old work email address, hence me not relaising for a while! Did you have a good weekend? What news with you? When is yout Hammersmith appointment?

Ei - did I read correctly on facebook that your DH has got a new job? I am so thrilled for you both - does that mean that another little ei is back on your DH's agenda? It's brilliant the HSG went well - I hope you didn't find it too uncomfortable and beware that hyper-fertility ahead

Picknmix - ha ha ha, you didn't sound like a moody cow at all! It sounds like you are working to death at the moment, so hope you managed to have some time to yourself at the weekend. Did you go running again? Fantastic!! - that looks like a great chart! I agree with jolly - there is no sqinting or guess work to pinpoint ovulation there . Fingers crossed for you!

Sorry for the mega-post and sorry to anyone missed or any lurkers out ther Must dash! I have to go and measure up the bathroom. We are finally getting it done (oooohh, the excitement!) after living with peeling tiles and flaky grouting patched with agffer tape for a year. I chose all the tiles and fittings at the weekend, so we're good to go. We're going modernist, dahling

GGx

MrsHappy · 09/06/2009 09:31

GG I hope you are feeling better and starting to enjoy your leisure time! You sound very organised - in the last few months I have only made a list of what needs doing; I have not actually done the things!!

Caitni are you ok? The lack of news from you has me a bit worried...

Hope all is well with everyone. Must run but will be back later...

PicknMix · 09/06/2009 09:59

Morning all,

How did the EC go yesterday Caitni? Was thinking about you all day so hope all is well

GG am chuckling a little over your Piglet Flu - naughty DH for accusing you of being over dramatic . Although I know exactly what you mean - the minute I go on holiday you can be sure I'll get a cold as my body sort gives up! Yay for the new bathroom - very envious as our bathroom is peach , and in true cottage style, is wood pannelled!

MrsH - yay for a gorgeous girl courgette How fab for you. How are you feeling at the moment? Can totally understand why you were concerned about her measurements but its great news the hospital were able to reassure you.

Glad to hear the Hsg went ok Ei - hope its flushed those tubes out properly ready for baby Ei! Not long until the 9th of July (although hopefully the Hsg will give you super fertility and you wont have to go to the appt )

How are the boys doing MOB? Hope twin2 is doing ok? (and twin1 as well, obviously!!!)

Is your appt tomorrow Bucky? Hope you're doing ok at the mo???

Hi JB, how is Jollycub doing?

Feeling quite emotional over here in PnM land. Think FF may have got my ov day wrong - its too complicated to explain but think I may have ov'ed later than I thought as there is no way I'm pregnant and also no way my temp would still be this high at 14dpo. I actually found myself symptom spotting the other day - haven't done that for months. All futile speculation though.

Thnk the stress of the looming appt is getting to me now. Please can someone give me some questions that I should go armed with? My brain is mush and I just have this feeling its going to be a waste of time.

MrsHappy · 09/06/2009 13:20

Picknmix - DD is asleep so I have had a think about what you might ask the consultant. Assuming he still thinks you have mild PCOS...

  • are any further steps are needed to confirm the diagnosis? What is the wait for them?
  • if it is PCOS (or if they are going to assume that it is) what is the treatment?
  • if the treatment involves clomid do they offer cycle monitoring or HCG trigger shot?
  • is there anything you can do to help things along (e.g. eat certain things, lose some weight etc) [Disclaimer: I do NOT think you need to lose any weight, but this is something I would ask about.]
  • if the treatment does not work what is the next step?
  • If possibility of IVF is raised; what is the waiting list? what are clinic's stats/success rates.

HTH

Oh. also, I had a look at your chart and while you could, I suppose, have ovulated on 1 June instead, was there no sex in the days before FF thinks you ovulated??? If there was I think that looks like a good chart...

MrsHappy · 09/06/2009 13:22

... I meant 31 May.

PicknMix · 09/06/2009 15:06

MrsH thank you for those questions - thats exactly the kind of thing I meant as I just have no clue what to ask. I'm going to print them out (and any others anybody wants to suggest) to take with me so I don't forget - when it comes to Dr's I have a tendency to either clam up with nerves or act like a biligerent teenager depending on their attitude.

WRT my chart - There was indeed sex the day before and the day of ovulation (according to ff) so yes, in theory it could be very well timed BUT 2 bfns (one this morning) and I'm not holding out any hope. Hence why I think FF has got it wrong and the 31st was exactly when I was thinking as well. This is why I gave up charting!

Thank you for your thoughts though x

MrsHappy · 09/06/2009 15:29

God, I know what you mean. A perfect chart rarely meant anything much for me!
Good luck with your appointment.
Just make sure they tell you what happens next (and that it is not just go home and wait - you have waited long enough!).

Madoldbird · 09/06/2009 16:06

Caitni Hope things are ok with you and it all went well? Have been getting a bit worried as we haven't heard from you.

GG Sorry to hear that you have been poorly. It's a classic sign that you are beginning to let go of all the stresses and strains of recent weeks. Hopefully this will mean that you are nice and chilled and feeling on top form once you reach the "crucial" bit of the IVF (well, it's all crucial, but hopefully you see what i mean)

EI I'm so pleased to hear that the HSG went well, and i have everything crossed that you do indeed succumb to the "risk" of increased fertility

PnM I have been thinking about what you could ask at your appt. MrsH has already drawn up a fantastic, comprehensive list, so there's not much i can add. But i did have a couple of thoughts -

  • perhaps open the consultation by stressing how much this is taking a toll on you and DH (is he able to be there with you?) I know you mentioned this in your email, but i think emphasising it again can't hurt.
  • ask outright if you definitely have PCOS
  • If it is NOT PCOS, then WHY no conception?? (There may not be an answer to this of course, but it doesn't hurt to ask)
  • If IVF is not mentioned then raise the issue yourself. Assuming there is a waiting list, ask to go on it NOW, whilst pursuing other options in the meantime. (It doesn't cost them anything to put you on a waiting list and then remove you if you get pg). If IVF is not going to be considered, then on what basis is this decision made?

Just my thoughts of course - feel free to ignore! I would urge you to take a written list of issues with you, and have it out during the consultation to refer to. That way he will see you mean business.

All ok here. I have a scan / check up at the hopsital tomorrow. They will not do another growth scan until next week (as a week is not long enough to see any real changes) but they will check that the boys and i are ok. I went to see a "nappy advisor" this morning, and put in a big order that will hopefully see us through until they are potty trained. There is such a lot of choice out there, i don't know how i managed to make my mind up!

Caitni · 09/06/2009 18:08

Evening ladies

Sorry for the silence - am in internet avoidance mode as was stressing myself out googling all the things that can go wrong .

So EC was today and despite being convinced there'd be no eggs
(more ) I got a good haul of fairly good quality eggs. Feeling OK - bit sore but reckon I'm playing that up for DH's benefit (he's making me a hot water bottle as I type ).

Now the next step is whether any fertilise - for some reason I have the very unscientific image of the eggs and sperm getting jiggy in the lab to sound of Barry White with soft lighting ( - that is not, I repeat not, a reflection of me and DH's sex life btw ).

Naturally worried that none will fertilise (hence the internet avoidance!) but just have to wait and see. Am stocked up on lots of crappy dvds and magazines and treats and am going to just relax until ET. And Home and Away is just starting (I am in cheesy TV heaven with Home and Away!).

Sorry for the me ramble. I'll catch up properly soon. In the meantime,

PnM the Qs people have suggested are good and comprehensive - great idea to be prepared. Will be thinking of you and hoping you have a good app.

Bucky your app is around now too (was it today?). Hope it goes/went well. Can't wait to hear what the next stage for you is

Ei yay for good HSG - my SIL conceived her first the month after her HSG (had been trying for over two years). Fingers crossed for you my sweetie!

MOB thanks for the good wishes . I did not even know nappy advisors existed! You must be getting excited getting ready for the boys now

GG sorry for the lurgy but better to get it out of the way now . How long are you expecting to downreg?

Sorry to anyone I've missed - my hot water bottle's just arrived so am off to veg on the sofa!

JollyBear · 09/06/2009 19:53

Evening everyone,

Firstly, P&M I've had another look at your chart and it just looks so good. Unless you have reason to think that the temps were unreliable, I agree with FF on the ov date. How does this months chart compare with other charts where you have ov? Are your post ov temps usually so high? I'd be googling symptoms if I had a chart like that! Re your appointment, MOB and MrsH have given you a great list of questions. I understand what you mean about feeling flustered etc. Oh and I have a peach bathroom too, I'm hoping coloured suites will make a return to fashion!

ei Woooo for clean tubes and heightened fertility! Great news on your DH's job. Has that put a stop to the dickheadadry?

GG Glad you are feeling better now and the piglet cold wasn't too awful . Have you done anything fun to celebrate being free yet, apart from planning a wonderful new bathroom?

MOB You are planning washables with twins . I'm still using disposibles , naughty me .

Caitni I love the idea of the sperm and eggs getting jiggy to BW . Having a rest with mags and treats sounds perfect for before and after the ET. Let us know when you have news on egg development. So very excited for you.

Jollycub is very well, sleeping soundly at the mo. She's 6 months old on Monday .

SmilingEi · 09/06/2009 22:03

hey ladies
not much happening here except DH did indeed get a job which he started yesterday so we can relax a little bit at least for a few weeks
caitni im glad the EC went well i hope you dont have long to wait til ET and you get the result you want
MOB glad the boys are doing well
JB OMG!! i cant believe jollycub is 6 months old already!!
bucky did you have your appointment today?? if so i hope it went very well
GG hope your swine flu has died down and you feel better soon
mrsH hope all is well and you are relaxing before you start your new job
hello to everyone else
xx ei xx

SmilingEi · 09/06/2009 22:06

oh i forgot to add
PnM i think your chart looks FFAAAHHHbulous!! i also think you may have oved on 31st may which would make you 9/10 DPO i would maybe discard the temp that FF says you oved onand see what that does to your chart as it can always be un-discarded iyswim if you dont agree with what it is sayingwas there any action around then?? your chart looks very promising IMO
xx ei xx

MrsHappy · 10/06/2009 07:58

PnM some good pointers from MOB there. I reckon that the pushier you are the better. Make sure you remind him what a long haul it has been!

MOB what the heck is a nappy adviser? Is it for reusables? (If so: you brave woman!)

Ei congratulations for your DH. It's brilliant that it didn't take him long to find a new job.

JB I can't believe the cub is 6 months old either, but then time seems to be absolutelty whizzing by these days...

Caitni I'm so glad the egg collection was successful and that your DH is taking care of you. I think you are right to avoid google. LOL at the image of eggs and sperm getting jiggy in the petri dish . Have you heard from the embryologist this morning?

Hello to Bucky (have you had your appointment yet?) and (GG I hope the piglet cold is shifting).

Today I have a date with the NHS midwives (who I am sort of staying in touch with in case it helps me get round the hospital policies on VBAC). Am not expecting much though...

Madoldbird · 10/06/2009 10:14

Caitni Lovely to hear from you. Don't blame you with the internet avoidance! Sound very sensible. So pleased that EC went well & i hope you are feeling ok today. I also hope you don't have long to wait for that 'phone call from the embryologist.

PnM & Bucky You both have your appts today, don't you? (Or has my hormone-addled brain got that wrong?) If so - hope it goes really well for both of you. Look forward to hearing all the news.

JB Crumbs - time is flying by - nearly 6 months already!

EI Great news on DH's job. Hope things have settled down in your household now.

GG How's the bathroom coming along? (If you run out of things to do, you can always come and do ours...)

MrsH Hope the appt this morning is ok. A nappy advisor is someone who sells a whole range of reusable nappies. We weren't planning on going down that route, but when we saw how easy they are these days we had a re-think. Obviously there are the environmental issues, but they will also work out a whole load cheaper They look really sweet too. I just thought that if i got them before the birth then we will use them, whereas i might have put it off afterwards.

Right, off to the hospital now. I look forward to lots of news from everyone later on!!

BuckyAndCocktails · 11/06/2009 09:24

PicknMix good luck today! . Go get em and make sure you leave with all the answers you need!! Looks like the girls have been pretty helpful so I hope it goes ok. [higs]

Caitni congrats on your successful EC. Let us know how thing progress.

I have only scanned I am afraid, will have a proper read later to see how everyone is getting on. I'm so unfocussed on TTC, that I feel a bit of a fraud coming on here at the mo. Sorry I gave up on the meet up, but everyone seemed so busy and I didn't want to harrass, so I thought I would abandon it for the time being.

My appt was a bit of an anticlimax. I'm not sure why we were even needed to attend it literally went like this:

'Hi'
'Hello'
'I see you are making progress now, have you had all your tests done?'
'Yes'
[nurse checks records]
'I see that is the case, all ready now then, I'll fill out the forms and send them off. Is Hammersmith ok for you? You can go to Oxford, Leicester, Cambridge or Barts if you'd prefer, although we recommend Hammersmith as we have links with them.'
'Hammersmith is fine.'
'OK thanks very much you'll get a letter in a few weeks inviting you for your first consultation with Hammersmith, any questions?'
'Is the wait still 6-9 months?'
'They see our patients quite quickly usually so should be relatively quick'
'ok thanks, bye'
'bye'

See, boring. On the list now it seems. 6 months or so to wait!

GorgonsGin · 11/06/2009 21:29

hello! I'm dropping in very, very quickly to say hello and say that I have read everything, but I've not much time to post because DH and I are arguing because he's made me go overdrawn .

caitni - hope you are not too sore and don't worry about avoiding the internet. I ducked out of the Wimbewai(n)f Club for about six months, so I know the feeling about wanting to stay focused and not worry yourself

Bucky - I remember that anti-climax appointment well. I couldn't believe that was all ther was to it! Are you abotu for lunch next week?

picknmix - GOOD LUCK for your appointment and the other ladies have given you some amazing questions. Come and tell us how it goes.

hello to everyone else.

Madoldbird · 12/06/2009 09:28

Bucky Sorry to hear your appt was an anti-climax. But at least you are on the list, and hopefully the wait may be a bit less than you were anticiptating.

GG Hope the argument is over now, and that DH has made it up to you (financially and perhaps with a nice gift as well )

Caitni I have been cheering on your embryos (pom poms and everything). Am thinking you may be having ET today? Hope it's all going well for you.

Hope everyone else is ok.

XX

PicknMix · 12/06/2009 09:51

Morning all,

It does seem a little weird how quickly your appt went Bucky - its a shame they don't offer phone consultations if thats all they had to say to you. But good that you have now been seen, you're in the system etc etc. I still want to come up to London at some point, I was just rubish at replying to FB things. Although, if you ever want a trip down south, let me know and I'll do a bbq or something (or we could [finally] have chips on the beach!).

Are you ok GG? Hope you got things sorted out with DH?

Don't blame you for being internet wary at the moment Caitni. Have you heard from the embryologist yet? Hope you are managing to relax at home and that DH is looking after you.

How did you appt go with the NHS mdwives MsH? Hope it was more useful than expected?

I can't believe Jollycub is nearly 6 months old JB!! Apologies re the peach bathroom comment, hope I didn't offend too much!? I take great comfort in the fact that my peach bathroom is WHOLE load better than the aubergine (and yes, really it was marroon, like ribena) bathroom in our last house - the bathroom suite was aubergine, the tiles were aubergine, the carpet was pink and one wall was covered in smoked glass tiles. I kid you not, it was like weeing in a [retro] womb.

How did the scan/check up go MOB? Hope all was ok with you and the boys?

I'll say it again cos its such good news - well done MrEi for getting a job . I did discard that temp and FF has put ov at 31st as you and MrsH predicted. There was action about 5 days before then as was away for work, but who knows!

Thank you all for your kind wishes for my appt. Went ok, better than expected I guess... Didn't get to see the consultant again (I've never actually met him) so was seen by one of his team. She hadn't read my notes properly (surprise surprise) and said "well all your test results have come back clear".

She stressed this about 3 times until I said "well how come I have this email from Mr Ibrahim saying I have signs of mild PCOS"?

She then flicked through my notes hurridly and said "oh yes, very slight PCOS".

She's obviously been taught to smile when in doubt cos thats all she did, smile inanely at me...

Anyway, the upshot was they've put me on Clomid - a 3 month trial, to be taken over 6 months (so alternate months). Its a really low dose so they're not monitoring me ( - I did check 3 times that this was ok and she said I wouldn't need monitoring).

They've also put me on the list for IUI ("as you've had such a long wait to see us Mrs PnM, we'll bypass the rule that you have to wait until you've finished Clomid and the waiting list is 6-9months").

However, when we walked out the room, the nurse (who is the only one who talks sense there - she was also the lady who did all my scans for the miscarriage) ran after us and said shes put us on the the register for the next lot of IUI which is in OCTOBER as we've been waiting so long.

I noticed a copy of my email in my notes so I wonder if thats why they did this? Hope so.

Your questions were used and I'm so pleased I had them in front of me so thank you again for all your pointers.

Sorry for the ridiculously long post....

Madoldbird · 12/06/2009 17:58

PnM Don't apologise for the long post - it is great to hear how your appt went. I'm so pleased that things are finally happening - 'bout time too!! Sounds a bit of a clueless doctor, but at least you came out with an action plan, and the IUI is not far away, with the hope that the clomid works in the meantime. I'm feeling excited for you Definitely sounds like the email played a part - so it was well worth it.
The scan was fine, thanks, both babies looking healthy (could even see that they had hair ) We have another scan on Tuesday, where they will look at the growth, then the drs will decide if they can be left cooking for a bit longer.

JollyBear · 12/06/2009 19:45

V quick stop in...

P&M Glad things are finally getting moving for you with clomid and on the waiting list for IUI! . Hurrah for your email.

My chart reading skills are obviously rubbish, sorry for saying your ov was so obvious . Your old bathroom sounds swell . Not offended at all by the peach bathroom comment. I hated ours when we moved in but it has grown on me!

bucky Hello! Sorry to hear your appointment wasn't more helpful.

caitni Hope all is going well, sending lots of positive thoughts your way although I expect you are sticking to trashy mags and avoiding the internet.

MOB Hurray for your boys!

Hello to everyone, sorry not to speak more. We're away for the weekend and I must pack.

Caitni · 12/06/2009 20:10

Hi ladies

Just a quick note from me as still in internet avoidance mode!

JB have a great weekend away!

MrsH hope the meeting with the NHS midwives went well. I was wondering the other day what hospital you're booked into - I have no idea what the hospitals are even called in North London!

MOB so glad to hear that the boys are still fine for the moment - at the hair - wow! Am hoping the docs allow them to cook for as long as possible, although it's going to be super super exciting when we become cyber aunties two times over

PnM glad the app has given you some definite progress, especially that nurse getting you onto the IUI list so quickly - praise the lord for nurses (the nurses during my IVF have been my lifeline, as they're the sensible ones who know what they're really talking about!). Fingers crossed the Clomid works and you hit the jackpot before you need the IUI

Bucky was more than a little at your app but at least you're in the system. Fingers crossed that you also hit the jackpot naturally . Hope time flies for you but also that you can enjoy your summer, and your time with your DP before babybucky arrives

Ei yay for MrEi getting another job! Hope things are good with you xx

GG hope your DH has made things up to you and that downregging is going well. I really do not miss my downreg sniffs - so am a bit at your injections (I found the injections the easiest stage as only had to remember to do them once a day).

So things going well with us. We were booked in for a day 3 transfer today but after a lovely call from the embryologist this morning we've decided to go to blast - the four embies are top grade and seem to be dividing well. Of course there's a risk none might make it but am not going to dwell on that (embryologist was v v reassuring that it's a tiny chance that they won't all make it - said she wouldn't recommend it if that was a significant risk). We honestly didn't expect to get the chance to go to blast so those little embies have already made their parents proud . Had a lovely day with DH as he had booked today off work so now just going to chill out until I get those little fellas on board.

Though now our discussion is whether to have one or two blasts transferred - MOB, GG, anyone else what do you ladies think? There's statistically not a huge amount of difference in terms of pos HPT & live birth rate between transferring one or two but the risk of twins increases dramatically with two blasts...we had decided to have two day 3 embies put back so this blast thing has thrown a spanner in things somewhat. I've always kind of (not so secretly) wanted twins but DH is much more freaked out by the risks...much discussing to be done methinks!

Anyway, sorry for the ramble. DH has just cooked up some steak (pampering still going on chez caitni ) so time to log off for the night.

xxx

MrsHappy · 12/06/2009 21:05

OH MY GOD. I WROTE A MASSIVE POST AND MY COMPUTER ATE IT

Here we go again [sigh]...

Caitni hurrah for the embryos doing so well. Am I right in thinking that the "risks" of putting 2 blasts back are the normal risks associated with twin pregnancies (assuming that they both take)? If so, I would probably put 2 back. You are young and healthy and if you conceived twins and they needed extra medical stuff you could go to the Royal Free where that Nicolaides fellow (the one who is an uber expert in foetal medicine) works. Otherwise NHS hospitals we get offered around here are the North Mid (not my favourite because a lot of the buildings are old - surgical wing looks pre war- and while they looked after me very well in March last year they seemed v under-resourced to me. My GP said they are one of the busier hospitals in London), UCH (which I love but as I am planning a VBAC I couldn't stand the thought of the cab ride all the way into central London in strong labour) and the Whitt (where I am booked, organisation seems an issue but they have just opened a nice new 5 bed birth centre with 4 pools). In the end I went for the whitt really because it is nearest, so they have local midwife clinics in my area etc.

MOB that is lovely to hear that the chicks are ok. How far along are you again? Sorry to keep asking but I am lousy at keeping track. When people ask how many weeks I am I say "ummm" and have to consult my diary!

GG I hope the argument is over and you are back to relaxing as every good leisure expert (as I like to style myself when between jobs) should.

Jollybear Have a lovely weekend away. Are you taking the cub or is it a grown-up weekend?

Picknmix fantastic news about the appointment. OK, so the doctor left something to be desired but you stood your ground and got her to engage which is great. And hurrah for the nice nurse - October is not very far away [eyes October-due bump with trepidation]. But hopefully you won't need the IUI anyway!

Bucky that appointment does sound like an anti-climix. I hope that lots of people drop out and you get bumped up to the top of the list even sooner!

Ei is everything ok with you?

NHS midwife seemed sensible, thanks. And I appear to be nesting - all of a sudden I have an overwhelming urge to redecorate the living room, change all the light fittings, sockets and switches and acquire an armchair. I'm sure the baby will appreciate it. If only I had time to change the avocado (bleaugh) bathroom - it has carpet on the floor (vile - especially around the loo [sick emoticon]. Sprog is currently doing a can can and is putting me off my typing... I have a busy couple of weeks coming up. New job starts soon and DD is turning 3 as well. Funny how I can sit about contemplating my navel for months and then everything happens at once!

GorgonsGin · 12/06/2009 23:47

caitni - just a quick post again (sorry - i thought I had all the time in the world when I was made redundant but stuff has erupted around me to do). I wanted to say THAT IS BRILLIANT that you are going to blastocyst stage!!! .

The embryologist won't lead you on! Huge congratulations to you and your DH . Not sure what to advise you on the two v one embryo - and it is a very, very personal decision and i am sure that MOB will give you the benefit of her very sage and more experienced advice - she is a lot more knowledgeable than me.

We went for two, which was the right decision for us at the time, but as you know it didn't work out for us. It was ONE OF THOSE THINGS though! I think I might go for two again - it's soooo tempting. Double the chance and possibility of twins is fantastic. BUT....

On the down side (said quickly ), one view expressed by the doctor (which for some reason did ring true with me, because, as we all know, some doctors talk a lot of twaddle and we ca feel free to ignore them) was that when I got the BFP followed by BFN and all the upset and confusion, it didn@t work out for us because one embryo wasn't strong and when it went it took the other one with it. i do think there are fewer complications with a single, but you have almost a ready made family with two. It;s very difficult and very personal.

lots of love and good wishes whatever you and your DH decide
GGx

Madoldbird · 13/06/2009 18:20

Caitni I am so, so pleased that it's all going so well for you. To get 4 top grade embryos is brilliant. No wonder you and DH are proud of them I don't know a huge amount about blasts - our clinic only routinely went to day 3 embies unless there had been a problem in previous cycles, so it wasn't something we were offered. However, it's fantastic that you have been offered it, as i understand it leads to greater success rates etc.
As for the transferring of one or two, well, ultimately only you and your DH can decide, but i'm happy to share what our thoughts and feelings were, and what carrying twins has been like so far!
We did discuss it quite a lot beforehand, and even when we were driving to the clinic i asked DH again if he was happy to have 2 put back, as there was a reasonable chance (about 25% at our clinic) that it could be twins. We agreed that we would go for it. In our case we wanted to maximise the chance of getting pregnant, bearing in mind that i am getting old! We also felt that we were happy to cope with twins should that be what happened. The consultant had also said that he felt i was healthy enough to be able to cope with the pregnancy.
Well, you know what happened after that . It was a shock when we had the scan, but a nice shock. I have been healthy and well through the pregnancy, and even though we have had a few worrying times along the way (the bleed just after Christmas where we were initially told we may have lost them, and the concerns over number two's growth) it appears that both babies are well and healthy. You have to be prepared that a twin pregnancy is much more "medicalised" - you have to be under a consultant, have extra scans etc. However, i have to say the care i have received has been fantastic, and i feel very looked after. Don't forget as well, if you do end up with twins, they will, more than likely be DCDA (two placentas / amniotic sacs) and a lot of the risks you read about are associated with identical twins.
I can't say that i have experienced any "downsides" as such, but i now have a really huge bump, have swollen arms & legs, and sometimes need help out of the car / up from the sofa Oh, and i think even my stretch marks have stretch marks Basically all the usual pregnancy things, but a bit more intensified. However, the thought that we will soon be welcoming two new little people in to the family makes it all absolutely worthwhile, and i have to say, looking back, i have NEVER regretted the decision to put two back.

Crumbs! I've really rambled on, haven't i?! I just wanted to give you our honest thoughts etc about the whole thing. As i said, though, it is a very personal decision. Everyone's circumstances are different - you are younger than me (i am 39 in a couple of months ) and so you may wish to spread your children out - if you see what i mean!! GG has also given a very important perspective on the risks of putting 2 back.
Anyhow, good luck with whatever you decide - and i'm getting so excited for you!!

MrsH I'm 34 weeks now. I also have it in my diary so i can keep track. LOL at you getting the living room ready for the baby. I have been obssessed with the fact that the garden must be completely tidy and looking it's best before these two arrive! Why, i don't know What makes it worse is the nursery isn't even ready yet!

JB Hope you have a lovely weekend away. You are getting as bad as GG with all your trips away