The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

[Bucky2008]

OK, so how about we start of on a positive....

I bought the test.

I did the test.

BFP .

Job done.

Good morning all

Bucky I love the new name. That's great that progress is being made. And yay for the appointment - I hope it comes together quickly.

Jollycub let's see the photos... The sickness is mostly gone, although I am addicted to ginger beer (which I normally loathe) so that might be helping. I know, it is stupidly early to be thinking about the birth, except my last one was so bad (and probably resulted in the damage to my tube) that I am determined to avoid going through that again. At the moment am mulling over the risks of homebirth to see if I can live with them... It probably sounds really selfish to be waffling about birth options on a thread for ttc. I know I am lucky to be pregnant, but I just really really want to preserve what's left of my fertility.

GG if you're around pop in and tell us how your appointment went.

Caitni wow your gardening sounds great. I had this plastic greenhousey thing which fell over and tore and broke all of my plants, so I am back to square one. And my garden grows so fast that it looks like a flipping jungle. If you like the gardening that much perhaps you want to head up the hill and look at mine!! I've been trying the hypno thing on a CD but every time I listen to it the baby starts doing a jig and I sit there groping my tum and grinning instead of concentrating, so I am not getting very far!

PnM I am really pleased that your appointment is earlier than you had thought. Just don't leave until they have formulated a decent plan of action for you. If they suggest more tests ask them how long it will take to do and to see them again to discuss the results and emphasise how long you have been trying. I really hope you get someone good who realises that they need to help.

Are you around MOB? How are the boys?

Morning all,

How did it go yesterday GG?? Bucky I'm chuffed that your hospital seems to have pulled it around for you. Thats fab news that they'll accept the results from December . And the appt dates sound v close, so again, fab! Fingers crossed postie brings you the letter tomorrow before the weekend!

Def think its time for some photos JB! Would love to see the jollycub

Am pleased to hear the sickness is on its way out MrsH - you mustn't feel selfish for 'waffling', am just as interested now as was when you were talking about cm . Home birth is the way to go surely? I hope you're feeling more empowered as a patient this time round and that your choices are listened too as your last birth sounds like it really affected you (physically and mentally).

I finally got a response from my consultant, but in true NHS fashion (almost on par with most politicians) he didn't really give a proper answer. Its also far too late for a blood test now as am on cd6. I have no faith in him and, although I'm fine most of the time, I just keep wanting to cry at the moment as its taken so long to get here but I really can't see I'm going to get anywhere if all he thinks I have is a "a degree of polycystic ovaries". See below for copy of reply.....

Thank you for your e-mail although this is not our usual way of communication with patients. In answer to your question, it is not necessary to have another blood test for FSH and LH as the test was done only a year ago and you are young. If you want to have another test in this cycle it can only help. It seems from your long cycles and your hormones that you may have a degree of polycystic ovaries and I will discuss this with you when you attend the clinic.

it cut half my post off!

Haven't got time now but will retype it later - apologies to those not mentioned, you were in the original post!!!

Hi Ladies

PnM I had to raise an eyebrow at the line "Thank you for your email although this is not our usual way of communication with patients" - because usually there's practically no flippin' communication with patients! Anyway, I think MrsH's advice is good re not leaving until you've got a treatment plan (so go in armed with questions and take lots of notes!). The email can only help with this as the consultant is already more "aware" of you than just getting a pile of case notes right before your appointment, so you're off to a good start. And I know "a degree of PCOS" is infuriatingly vague but PCOS can and is overcome so it's better than lots of other diagnoses. It's natural to feel sht and apprehensive because you've had your confidence in the whole NHS undermined by your crappy doctor but this consultant could be the man who gets baby PnM* to stop shanging out with all the other babies waiting to make their appearance...but big to you in the meantime. I wish I could give you a RL hug...Perhaps we're due another meet-up?

JollyBear oooh please post some jollycub pictures! Bet she's a total cutie . Sorry to hear about your mouldy bean pots...reckon my peas (attempt no. 2) will be joining them...and this morning I found a big cat poo in between two of my carrot rows (lucky DH got to clear it up since he's the "cat lover" in our house!). Ruddy cats! The adventures of gardening . Thanks for the finger crossing for the IVF btw - I appreciate every bit of support I get on here

MrsH sorry to hear of your ill-fated adventure with the plastic greenhouse as ours is great...though I'm starting to harden off the tomato and courgette plants this weekend as there's a little flower starting on the tomato and there's no way any pollinators will get into it in its plastic palace . Your garden sounds lush! Ours is growing well but it's got quite a lot of yawn lawn so I doubt we'd get the jungle effect even if we tried! And it totally does NOT sound selfish to talk about birth options on a ttc thread. I love hearing about it (I second PnM that it's as good as hearing about CM ) in the same way I love hearing about pregnancies and babies. Someday we'll all be in that position and it'll help us to have read your thoughts/experiences (this ties into stuff I've been thinking about with an excellent book I recently finished called RISK, a lot of psychological stuff about how humans calculate risk...fascinating stuff but I really won't bore you with any more waffle about it!). And I was giggling at the image of your trying to do the hypno CD and enjoying your wriggly baby instead! PS You had an interesting FB status recently missus...Are the cherry-eating days soon to end?

Bucky woo hoo for the progress! Glad to hear that the Dec scan & tests are fine and I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for your funding appointment (hope you get the 27 May one ). And PS I love the new name!!

Ei hope you're doing OK lady xxx

GG hope the appointment went well - do you have a timetable for the new treatment? Looks like we may well be cycle buddies .

OK ladies, I got the call from the clinic today and I officially start downregging next Saturday! Which means, if downregging works, then I should be able to start my stim injections around 28th May (less than two weeks away!). I'm already mentally dusting down the old egg puns as I want a bumper crop (am hoping my ovaries will be inspired by all the strawberries forming in the garden ). I'm not going to think about egg collection too much though, as I think I'm going to just take each milestone as it comes. I'm also thinking that I'm going to ditch the 5 element acupuncture guy in North London as he's got no experience with IVF and all the research about acupuncture and IVF is with TCM. It's also because I realise I've been spending a fortune to basically have a guy say my pulses are strong and let's burn some herbs (can you tell I've lost the faith ). Since the reason I want acupuncture is to get my body as ready to carry a baby as possible I think I'd rather go with someone who knows what works for IVF and what doesn't...

Sorry for the marathon rambling post - work is a bit mental and I have yoga this lunch time so have been drafting this post for too long!

Happy friday to everyone

Hello everyone

Caitni I always love reading your posts - they're invariably so long and chatty, it's really nice. Yes, my cherry eating days are set to end in the next few weeks (although am sitting on the sofa having some now, as it happens ) - will tell you all about it when I see you next. Perhaps we should have a separate North London meet up since I bet we both live not too far from the W3 bus route (judging from your choice of garden centre ). We've got pesky cats around here too and my front garden stinks, so I have bought some of that Silent Roar fertiliser with lion dung so see if it frightens the little blighters. I have noticed, though, that a local cat goes missing each week and it makes me think that someone else hates the little buggers. If you're giving up your current acupuncture person, have you looked at the Kite Clinic? They mostly specialise in fertility and so I am sure would be up to the IVF challenge. An alternative would be Zita West, although when I went there they also wanted me to see someone to discuss CM etc (obv. not understanding that I am an expert in such things ) and a nutritionist which annoyed me. Neither place is cheap (ZW was over £100 for my session iirc) but it is a limited number of sessions for IVF because there is some protocol that they follow, so they might be worth a look.

PnM My eyebrows shot up at your consultant's email too, but there are 2 really positive things. Firstly, he knows you mean business and that you are likely to be demanding. And secondly, even though he is not due to see you for a month he went and looked at your file and formed a view. And judging from your chart and your cycles PCOS does not sound completely out there. You're going to get your little jelly baby, I am sure.

I forgot to say before but it is good to see you again Ei. Hope you're ok and that the HSG appointment disappointment is not too bad.

Higs to all, Bucky, GG, MOB. Have I forgotten anyone? I hope not, but if I have I'm sorry.

No news from here (other than the job thing which is a relief). I have developed an addiction to ginger beer (the spicy kind) which has my DH kind of appalled, but he will live. Bean is now 13cm long so is not really a bean anymore.... more of a courgette. Right, must go tackle the front jungle.

Pleased to hear about the job situation MrsH, must be a big relief. Happy Bean is already 13cm long?? Wow! I'm sure it hasn't for you but that seems to have happened really quickly!

Wow, next Saturday Caitni! That's really close! Agree that finding an accupuncturist who specialises in the ivf field would be a good idea, especially if you've lost faith in the one you see currently.

Glad you all found the email from my consultant a little bit as well! Thought maybe I was being a bit too sensitive about it. Have drafted the below reply but haven't sent it as don't want to be thought of as 'that lady who makes a fuss'. What do you all think?

Many thanks for your reply, unfortunately I think it's a bit late to have another set of blood tests before our appointment with you but if you say the original ones will be ok then I am happy with that.

I appreciate email is not the usual lines of communication, however I have had difficulties getting hold of the correct person in your department in the past so felt an email might by more succesful. I'm sure you understand that after nearly 3 years of trying to conceive and a 7 month wait to see you, I would like our appointment to be as constructive as possible.

Kind Regards

Hi PnM, I like your email and think there is no harm in being the difficult patient. The squeaky wheel gets the grease etc.

The only thing is I would probably rejig the second para to really stress how important this is, and to play up the emotional side a bit (sometimes that really helps get people on side). Something like...

"I appreciate email is not the usual lines of communication, however I wanted to be certain that I had done everything I could to prepare for our appointment and to make it as constructive as possible. I'm sure you understand that after nearly 3 years of trying to conceive and a 7 month wait to see you, this appointment is extremely important to me. "

Hope that helps.

Am now stressing about when to tell future new employer about the courgette. What would you ladies do?

Evening ladies

I haven't gone AWOL, i promise! I've just been really hectic with work, however i am now officially on maternity leave

EI How are things with you! I was so to hear your HSG was cancelled - that's awful. However have fun leaping on DH this month

MrsH&courgette I was sorry to hear that your appt with the consultant didn't go well - can you find another one who is more prepared to listen to your wishes? Great news that you have another job. Perhaps tell them about courgette after a week or two once they have seen how wonderful you are I sniggered to myself when you said you were going to tackle your front jungle... with the use of the term "lady garden" on MN, i have visions of you going off to do some person grooming Apologies for the way my mind works!! I have to say, though, i can't see to tackle my front jungle any longer

Caitni Great news that you are to start down regging so soon! What does that involve? (Just curious as i went from the pill to stimming) You'll soon be getting to the exciting bits (eggciting...) I can't wait!

JB Get those photos on to your profile

Bucky Fab name!! I'm so pleased to hear it sounds like things are progressing for you.

PnM at your consultants response. I agree with MrsH on adding a bit of emotion into your reply. You could even add a bit about wanting to start appropriate treatment ASAP, and that you were worried about old test results jeopardising that. It then emphasises that you don't want to get there, have a chat, and then wait another few months for anything else to happen.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

MOB XX

Hi lovely ladies

Hope everyone had a good weekend. Twas quite quiet in the caitni household, although I did have my first ever home grown salad (spinach) which was very nice and tasty (SUCH an exciting life I lead - NOT!).

MOB wow - maternity leave already! I'm so happy for you that the stress of work is now over and the count down has officially begun. So exciting . Have you started nesting yet? I'm on the pill already, so that's the start of my downregging. I then have to sniff some burselin (sp?) for about 5 days and, depending on when my "period" arrives, I should be good to go to start the stimulating injections. The sniffing is one sniff in each nostril three times a day (I'm going with 7am/3pm/11pm as that should be easiest for fitting in with work) and I have to do it all the way through til the trigger injection...I keep thinking that in a month I should know whether it's worked or not (gulp!). Was also fnar-fnaring at your front jungle double entendre

MrsH big congrats on the job! Yay!! Am also loving that bean has graduated to a courgette and was at the mystery of the missing cats (methinks some mad gardener has been tipped over the edge by cat vandalism...). I'd agree with MOB and say wait a week or two and then tell them about babyhappy. Although with my current job I was really stressed out about telling them I was getting married two weeks after I was due to start...I ended up telling my line manager when we met for lunch before I started. So maybe telling them in advance would be better? I'd love to meet up for a coffee btw (or herbal tea, as my IVF health kick is in full flow ) as we're practically neighbours. My weekends are pretty free for the next few weeks so any day that works for you. We can even be all 21st century innit and arrange it via Facebook . The Kite Clinic does the same type of acupuncture as my current guy (5 element - so copious amounts of moxa burning and talk of pulses and the like). I did think of Zita West (to try and invoke the power of Zita in my tx ) but the prices put me off slightly. I'm thinking the balance clinic that LondonLottie used is good as the guy seems very sensible and is v experienced in IVF/ICSI preparation (she went to the Kite clinic in her first tx and preferred balance).

PnM you got some excellent advice about the email. And MrsH is completely right about the squeaky wheel getting the grease (which is my new favourite expression!). Injecting some emotion is no bad thing...I'm so glad that you're doing everything you can to chivvy them along and make this appointment as productive as possible.

JB Ei & GG & Bucky hope things are good with you

Not much going on with me apart from being manically busy at work [sigh] when of course I just cannot be arsed with any of it...

xx

Hello ladies

Sorry for the recent radio silence - i have been having a pretty stressful time at work. i am being made redundant and I have a feeling that a lot of it is to do with the IVF. I haven't had a minute to post anything recently and I am trying to fight it. MrsH - do you know a good employment lawyer you would recommend? This really is not the stress I need when embarking on cycel #2 and - typically - Mr Gg is working abroad again, so I feel lik I am doign everything on my won again. It's scary and I feel so angry abotu my career and the way everythign is being handled.

Hope everyone had a good weekend and didn't get wet in the showers. It was very busy in the Gorgon household, as it was my MIL's 60th birthday and we had a busy weekend of London Things planned for her when she visited, so I am thoroughly exhausted! We did Afternoon tea at the lanesborough, then Billy Elliott at the theatre and then the whole family came round for Sunday lunch, so I was knackered by Sunday night and I had a manic week last week.

MOB woweee, so excited for you!!! I can't believe that you are off on maternity leave already! I'm thrilled that the stress of work is over and the count down has officially begun to having two little babies. So exciting for all of us.

caitni - can't believe that you are on the pill already, so that's the start of downregging and really getting on with it. I have the Buseralin injections i my tunny which is what hammersmith like to use apparently, so no sniffing for me. I begin again on the 31st with Buseralin, although I've hardly had a minute to think about it all.

MrsH - huge congratulations on the job!
I agree with MOB and Caitni about waiting a week or two and then tell them. How are you feeling - can you feel any movement yet?

let me know if you ladies would like another WINMBEWAI(N)F-er at the meet up for coffee or herbal tea as it looks like I will have a lot of time on my hands this summer!

PnM - And MrsH is right about the squeaky wheel getting the grease - it is definitely those who shout loudest and make the most fuss who get what they want (which is what i am trying to do at work at the moment!), which is not always easy if you are generally a polite and accomodating person, but it does sound liek it's time to shout.

Bucky, Jolly and Ei - hope things are good with you and come back and let me know all your news!

GGx

GG I have sent you a message via Facebook. And if you want to contact me to chat through your options, please do. I have quite a lot of experience fof redundancy (both professionally and personally (unfortunately)) so it might be helpful. Or you can just vent if you want! I'm sorry you are having such a tough time. I am not at work until the end of June so if you want a coffee or whatever give me a shout.

MOB that's great being on maternity leave. Are you managing to put your feet up lots? Has there been any update on little twin?

Caitni I have managed to buy a replacement cover for my greenhouse so plastic greenhouse mark two is going up in the garden today (assuming the rain stays away). Yay! It's so exciting that you are starting the downregging already - seems not very long since you and your DH went to the Lister for the open evening.

I think that I can feel movement sometimes, but it is very sporadic and I wish I could feel it more often as it is very reassuring... I have a scan at the start of June so will get to check that all looks well with the courgette. Can't wait, to be honest. I don't know whether it is because this baby took so long to get but I find myself a bit nervous about it all (compared to DD where I was oblivious to the idea that things might go wrong).

Big hello to PnM, Ei and Bucky. Hope everything is ok with you guys.

Oh GG so sorry to hear of all the work stress . What a total nightmare for you. It is the last thing you need at the moment. But remember we're here to listen and support you as much as we can (so please do come and rant away as much as you want!). I'm glad MrsH is able to give some advice. Sending you massive ((((hugs))) in the meantime. And I'd also be up for meeting up - anything from a post-drink work to a weekend coffee/lunch. We'll also practically be cycle buddies, as I should just have started stimming by the time you start downregging, so we can keep our chins up together about IVF. Try not to stress about the IVF - LondonLottie just got her BFP after some really stressful weeks and a cycle that wasn't as "good" as her Norway one...

MrsH good to hear of greenhouse take two . Hope it works out! My second attempt at peas has resulted in a lovely little shoot so I'm going to plant some more this weekend. Now I just want my ovaries to take a leaf (geddit?!?) out of the book of all my lovely little salads and herbs and veggies and grow lots of eggs ...So exciting to read of the first flutters of courgette's movement by the way . And of course you feel more nervous - oh for the halcycon days when ignorance was bliss! - but things are going well so far and you're doing all you can to try to avoid a stressful birth (well, beyond the obvious stress of the labour pains ).

Hello everyone,

Just wanted to let you know I'm off on my hols for 10 days so won't be around for a bit.

Much love to everyone, I'm so sorry not to say hello individually but..

Sorry to hear about your job GG.

Hurrah for mat leave MOB.

Must go Jollycub is smelly and crying!

hi ladies
sorry i havent been around
been quite busy with work and everything so...
i hope everyone is doing well
GG nice to see you
mrsH im so happy you got your job well done
caitni sounds like all systems are go for your IVF-operation caitni's baby
MOB how are the boys?? are your older kids excited for their brothers on the way??
PnM hope you are ok
hello to everyone else lurking around or otherwise
well nowt happening here except DH has been made redundant and he has started acting like a big selfish idiot the way things are looking we will definitely not be in the game this cycle and if he keeps up his dickheadery im on the verge of kicking him out things are most definitely not good on the relationship front at the mo
xx ei xx

oh no ei - I am really sorry to hear about your DH's redundancy. It's an epidemic at the moment. I can sympathise and I hope that his totally understandable hurt and anger at being let go is not getting in the way of your relationship. take care of each other.

Big hello to everyone else. I'm just checking in quickly to say hello to all you lovely ladies.

Jolly - have a wonderful holiday!

Hi everyone

Ei so to hear of your DH's redundancy but to hear of his selfish behaviour. GG put it better than me about his own hurt/anger at losing his job but still, the last thing you need is him acting like a child. Hope things are sorted out soon xx

JB have a fab holiday (I'm not in the slightest...NOT!).

GG hope things good with you chica and that the work stress is abating.

Waves to everyone else - work is quite busy (annoyingly) so not much time to MN. When all i want to do is idly google IVF stuff (some more ) and generally not work!

Caitni xxx

Ei I am sorry to hear about what has been going on with your DH. Redundancy is such a kick in the teeth, even if you know your employer has no choice and I sometimes think that men take it harder than women because often they are a bit less flexible and a bit more defined by their job. The best thing anyone can say about redundancy right now is that there is a lot of it about and it is not personal. I hope he pulls himself together soon and that things start looking up for you both.

Have a lovely holiday JB.

Hope everyone else is ok. I have just had the hilarious news that someone I know has swine flu (she's fine, BTW) - although she is not in this country so we're all safe!

You lot crack me up . Whilst I am so sorry to hear about your DHs redundancy Ei I am particularly taken with the work 'dickheadery' and will be introducing it to my day to day vocabulary . In all seriousness, I hope that things get better, its a horrible thing to have happened and stress and upset make people act in ways they would not ordinarily. Ask my DP, I've been mental for months now .

I have also had a snigger at MrsH laughing at her sick friend!!! ...Although when I was ill the other day somebody asked me if I had 'Pig Flu' which i thought sounded decidedly disgusting. .

Today I am mostly very sleepy and hungover and counting the minutes till BANK HOLIDAY WEEKEND...woo hoo.

Caitni good luck with your cycle, hope that a BFP is at the bottom of your IVF rainbow. (higs).

GG pull your finger out and text me back you lazy cowbag .

Have a great holiday JB. And PnM Wassup dude??? Are you going on a staycation? Apparentely that is a cool way of saying are you holidaying in England?

Hola to everyone else!!!!

Well, it seems that all was not as simple as I though and I have to have another scan because the one I had before was diagnostic. Heyho...so I am going for a private scan next Wednesday so I can have the results in time for my appointment with the hospital on the 10 June!

That's about all my news! Have a uber weekend girlies...see you soon. x

hey ladies
thanks for your comments about DH i know he has got all these feelings about his redundancy so im making allowances for that but he knew it was coming and has done nowt to look for another job (burying his head in his arse) and all he goes on about is how i am basically the worst in the world because i spend time with my friends (once in a blue moon), because i (shock of shocks) think that spending money once a week on food shopping is acceptable and replacing our DDs shoes as her last pair no longer fit is a good idea (IMO preferable to her going to school barefoot) he has always had a measure of idiot in him but recently it has been kicked up a few notches!! (sorry for ggoing on but it seems to help ranting here rather than at DH tell me to shut the frig up and i
will)
hope you all are ok
xx ei xx

Anyone with the same birthday as me can rant as much as they like Ei.... I saw it on FB, I'm not a crazy stalker honest . x

hey ladies
bucky i didnt realise we were birthday buddies and dont lie...you know you are my FB stalker you doing anything nice for your birthday??
hello to everyone else
xx ei xx

Hi ladies

Hope everyone had a lovely long weekend. God, I wish we had more bank holidays!!

Ei and Bucky sounds like some HAPPY BIRTHDAY wishes are in order for the pair of you . Hope you had fun times...

Ei hope things improve with your DH...you really have a way with words btw (I know you say your sister is the writer but you've got the talent too ).

Bucky hope the scan tomorrow goes well. Have no idea what a diagnostic scan means by the way - seems like just when you think you know the lingo they whip out some new terminology . I'm glad that things are progressing for you - BabyBucky will be here soon!

MrsH and MOB hope you're both doing well

GG hope the work stress is easing?

PnM hope things are good with you. Did you get the lovely scorching weather over the weekend? Being in London made me wish we were still on the south coast!

JB hope you're having a good holiday!

Things grand with me. Sniffing away and the drugs don't seem to be having much in the way of side effects, which is good. I'm supposed to get my "period" today but no sign yet, so a bit anxious about that. I've been told to expect it today (though it's probably going to be very light) and then go in for a scan and blood test on Thurs to make sure everything's switched off and my lining is thin. If it's worked, then I should be able to start injecting on Thurs!

Had a great session with the new acupuncture guy on Fri. He really knows his stuff, not just about IVF but ttc in general, and it was great to talk about things properly and be taken seriously iykwim (and he's reassured me there'll be no more burning of moxa for me ). Wish I'd gone to him earlier (and in fact wish I'd gone to him before the whole assisted route!). Am hoping to see him again tomorrow, depending on whether this "period" arrives...

Anyway, have a mountain of work to do and have just about zero motivation [sigh] so best head off and at least attempt to get some stuff done!

Caitni - can you let em know your accupuncture guy. i am thinking of trying somehting new and you are reporting such good things abouthim. i could do with starting sooner rather than later with the stress of redundancy and the drug injecting beginning again on 31 may.

Bucky - will text you back very soon. Apologies for not doing so. i thought I had, honest . Everyone has been so lovely recently that i have lost count of the number of texts and with everything else going on I haven't responded as quickly as i shoulod have. Am i forgiven.

Also, Ei and bucky - can't believe you have the same birthday. All hail to my fellow capricious Geminis . It's my birthday on Wednesday next week (yet another year older ) and now all I have to do is persuade hard working DH to take the evening off to take me out on the razz

MOB - i saw your photos on facebook and you look gorgeous! Hope the little ones are behaving themselves and staying put for the time being. How are you enjoying maternity leave?

MrsH - LOL at you laughing at your friend getting swine flu. i had a giggle too, but only on the basis that she is not terribly ill, i hope When do you start your job?

My news is that I am still fighting my firm on the redundancy basis, which is quite stressful. i won;t have a job, btu the pay off is still nto decided and it will make a big difference to me in the long term and obviously, I don't want to job hunt for a month or two, especially with IVF cycle #2 about to kick off. I do need to get my stress levels down though - I have been researching yoga classes this morning and trying to get an early night of sleep.

hello to jolly or anyone else I have missed off. i will need to have a long read back through the posts to make sure I haven't missed anything,

GGx

GG sorry to hear there's still all the stress at work - but keep on fighting it, the payout will make a huge difference. I decided on Ian Prytherch at Balance Acupuncture and, although it's early days, I recommend him.

Still no sign of AF...getting anxious so may just call the clinic for some advice. Am worrying that the downregging hasn't worked...

Hi Ladies

Caitni Hope the "period" turns up - there's still plenty of today left for it to arrive, but hopefully if you are able to speak to the clinic they can put your mind at ease. I can't wait for you to start stimming!

GG So sorry to hear about the ongoing work hassle. Hang on in there for the best deal. I've just realised that i have a copy of a "IVF support self hypnosis and relaxation CD" that i used during my cycle, that may help you to relax etc? I certainly found it benficial. I would be very happy to send it to you (you can let me have address etc via FB). I won't need it again - despite DH muttering about #5!!

EI I hope things are a little better with DH & that you managed to have a good weekend?

Bucky Hope the scan goes ok tomorrow. Not long 'till your appt now.

Hello to PnM, MrsH & JB & anyone else i may have forgotten... my memory is really shot to bits at the moment!

Am relieved to not be working any longer, as i am now officially huge, and get very tired (But otherwise extremely well). I'm just looking forward to the babies arriving now, although we still don't have everything we need for them! I have a scan and clinic appt next monday, and i will be interested to see what position they are in, as last time they were both breech. Still, as long as they are both growing then that's the main thing.