The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

[Bucky2008]

OK, so how about we start of on a positive....

I bought the test.

I did the test.

BFP .

Job done.

Hi my name is stacey im a friend of Eileen and about to start my first cycle of IVF next wednesday im really worried it wont work and very negative about the whole thing im 28 and had to loose weight to get my bmi down for treatment wayhay I done it but am findin it hard to keep it off as having an under active thyroid dont help I was wonderin if there is any hints tips or anything I can do to help along the way
im on facebook to and new to this

hey stacey its ei!! you found us!!
xx ei xx

im new to this just testin to post

ohhhhhh thanks hun i get it im used to fast chat

looks like im out!! again... im sick of this now!! my temp has dropped right down below the coverline today so its only a matter of time before AF makes an appearance cycle 19 for me then funny thing is with my new job i cant even go for the HSG or the day 2/3 blood test etc!! im in training and they told me at interview that unless you have an emergency theres no chance of getting time off due to the nature of the training. so yet another month of waiting for nothing as im pretty sure its never gonna happen now
xx ei xx

hello alkilli28 - welcome to the thread . I say this to everyone, but I hope that your time on here is very short .

Not sure if ei told you but i recently underwent IVF and I'm happy to talk - some of the others are contemplating it or will be referred soon. We generally all support each other in fighting off TEW each month and it started off as symptom spotting . It is not really an IVF thread and I think I have been guilty of hi-jacking it recently and boring the other posters to death about my dramas, so if you want to CAT me or get my details from ei on facebook to chat specifically about that, that's fine. I am no expert though! There is also an Assisted Conception thread on here with ladies who have done several cycles of IVF.

ei - I am really sorry you are out this month too . I am really sure it will happen for you too - honstly, not just a platitude. It is absolutely crap going through all this waiting. I have lost count at which cycle I am...maybe around 24. Is there no way you can arrange a very early morning blood test at your GP or hospital? I know my sister (a GP) does an out of hours surgery some evenings. I have been lucky that the Hammersmith IVF unit is geared up for blood tests at 7am, so I know that hospitals do do them, if you can find the right way in, IYKWIM?

GorgonsGin....thread killer

hi ladies

GG you're no thread killer . And you're neither boring nor dramatic about your IVF rollercoaster either! Hope you're feeling OK today chick. Did you and Bucky get to have your "work lunch"?

Akilli28 hello! Any friend of the lovely Ei's is very welcome . Though as GG says here's hoping your treatment works and you soon have your baby . Well done on losing the weight btw, that's a very good first step in getting ready for IVF. I've also heard that drinking loads of water helps. We're also planning on IVF in a few months, so I've started seeing an acupuncturist who's got me drinking 2.5l of water a day (so I'm currently queen of the toilet breaks ! Though reckon my body's getting used to it as not peeing half as much as when I first started ). Oh and a hypno therapy CD may help with your negative feelings. A few ladies on here have used them (I've got one too) and they're quite helpful for relaxing about the whole thing.

Ei to hear you're out this month, massive to you xxx. Your chart looked so promising...but remember it's not over til AF arrives (and remember MrsH's temp took a nosedive when her AF was due and then climbed again...). Hope you can figure something out with the getting time off from work. And I still believe it'll happen for you, though I know how hard it is to keep a hold of that when another month bites the dust...

Big hello to everyone else. I'm expecting AF to arrive today but so far no spotting over the last few days and my temp is still high. I was very hopeful last night going to bed, but I woke up this morning with my boobs not hurting as much so am convinced AF will show up either tonight or tomorrow. Of course part of me is manically hoping that the combo of preseed, acupuncture (for both me and my DH) and tons of water has worked but am trying to just think that it's probably just my body messing with my head [sigh].

Evening all,

Hello and welcome to Akilli28 Nice to have you here - as said by everyone else, I hope (in the nicest possible sense) that your stay here is short! Can't really help with the IVF stuff but others on here are very knowledgable

Ei I'm sorry to hear about temp dip. I really really hope af stays away but big if she doesn't. Its a bitch about your job not allowing you to go for the tests you need. As GG said, always worth asking if they do late nights/early mornings at the dr's - I got all my bloods taken at the hospital as they have a drop in pathology unit (is pathology the right word?? or is that to do with the brain? I mean blood place any way!!) so might be worth investigating that as you might make it on your lunch break?

How are you feeling today GG? Its complete pants about 'the system'. I know first hand how completely cock eyed it can be sometimes. I'm pleased you're back to -tive HCG now, at least there was no complications with regards to the levels dropping (small mercies and all that ). Have been thinking of you these past few days and hope you're doing ok.

How you doing Bucky? What do you think the next step will be at your appt in April if you've done the 3 months on clomid?

Caitni have my fingers quietly crossed for you - high temp sounds good to me and the lack of spotting is encouraging

Still smiling about your good scan results MrsH, hope the sickness isn't too bad? Yay for getting a photo as well

Lovely to hear that the hospital appt went well MOB, really hope that the chiropractor can help with your spd - that doesn't sound like much fun at all. Get thee on to ebay for a new outfit (aware am sounding like some wierd ebay evangalist but I think it is brill!). I will need some help with shoes to go with my dress (I won the sunflower one so am waiting for it to be delivered ) so will let you see the options to help me chose!

I'm feeling slightly crazed this evening. Have been working like a, well, very busy working person, for the last few days and am starting to lose the plot a little. Am also reading a really negative book which is bringing me down so am throwing it away (can't bring myself to give it to anyone as is too depressive - also can't tell you the name of it as you are all vvv literate and it is true chicklit ).

Am trying to bring myself out of the fug but can't. Wierdly feel hormonal, like period is due but am only on cd7 (or something) so not that. Boobs still hurt as well which is also wierd.

Just noticed I've used the word weird too many times and spelt it differently each time.

Must go before I bore you all senseless with my ramblings.....

xx

WOW loooooooong post - apologies all!!!

You see GG? Now I am the thread killer extraodinaire Go on admit it, you all fell asleep reading my last post didn't you?!!?

picknmix - I love a long post - lots to read is great! You don't bore any of us!

Chuck away the depressing book - i am too fragile at the moment to watch/read/listen to anything depressing. It might tip me over into feeling properly sorry for myself. happy pills and happy books is what we need, picknmix

I'm sorry that you are feeling hormonal and spacey - horrible. Do you take anything like Evening Primrose Oil to help regulate cycles or life PMT? I think that my hormones and body are getting back to normal after all my ups and downs (not that they had much of a chance to get un-normal ), although no EWCM or breast tenderness yet. Now I just want to have my two proper AF's before embarking on cycle #2 (I can't believe I am longing for AF to arrive x 2! How times change )

Caitni - you haven't posted anything about what you are up to recently. You are always lovely and ask after us! I bet you are really busy at work. How are the needles and water consumption going? And how did you get yoru DH to do accupuncture. My DH flatly and absolutely refused to go.

Big hello to everyone else. Waving to the usual suspects on here MrsH MOB Bucky ei and readyfor2and3 and newbies too.

Have a lovely sunshiney weekend everyone. am goign to try to get fit

p.s. picknmix - i would go for some real contrast shoes with that lovely sunflower dress - high and colourful and really fun! Well done for wining the bid. i need to get on ebay too.

The book has been ceremonially chucked GG and a new one bought - can't be without a book - have discovered I've lost the power of sleeping at night so need something to keep me occupied at 3 in the morning

It must be kinda weird waiting and actually willing your next period, nay, two periods to come and go.

How are you going to get fit this weekend? My friends and dh have gone barging (on a boat, not some weird [there's that word again] extreme sport undertaken best in Ikea on a Sunday afternoon ) but I am not joining them (mixture of financial plus work related reasons) so I feel the need to do something vaguely resembling exercise at some point.

The sunflower dress turned up this morning - tis lovely actually. Thought it horrendous when I took it out the packaging but have tweaked it (black silk sash around middle, wrap around cardi in white and broderie anglaise underskirt to puff it out a little) think will go with red killer heels (a la navy and cream spot dress worn last year - good memory btw! true SATC peep toes).

Am far too materialistic

Just a quick post from me ladies, as AF arrived properly today...feel so stupid for even getting my hopes up . Anyway, am going to have a super busy weekend in an attempt to take my mind off things .

GG my DH is still sceptical about the needles...he says it helps him relax, which he's pretty sh*t at, but that the cost of it annoys him...still, tonight's his last one before he moves on to one session every 3/4 weeks so he should stop moaning about the cost now . I had to railroad him into it though, as I need him to be involved in this preparation for IVF in a tangible way or I think I'd go a bit mad . My own crazy 5 element acupuncture's going well. It's totally different from the TCM type Mr Needles does (and my DH does). I'm apparently in very good health, and my pulses respond well to the treatment, but I've had an emotional block as I've really struggled at times with the sadness and sense of failure I feel about IVF. I'm sure every couple who does IVF feels similar things (why us? etc) but that didn't stop me feeling quite down about it for a quite a while. Even sitting here at work it can bring tears to my eyes (damn hormones!). Still, the acupuncture's helping and, on the advice of my acupuncturist, I decided to tell my sister and my closest female friends about it (they all knew we were ttc and I feel better with them knowing). And my temps this month have been really good and stable, with a proper 13 day luteal phase with no spotting. So I think the water & needles combo is working for me .

Anyway, sorry for this as that's way more of a me me post than I expected. I'm in a different office today and am sitting next to my line manager (we usually don't sit next to each other) so my internetting has been severely curtailed!

Happy friday to everyone

PnM two things: yay that the dress arrived! And red killer heels sound like the PERFECT shoes to compliment it! I doff my imaginary hat to your superior accessorizing skills

PnM meant to add that I actually x posts with you as the open plan office is that open plan that I started my post at 2pm . And now I'm really logging off!

Caitni It's good that you are finding acupuncture so helpful. There can be a strong emotional element and on occasion I have found it quite a lot like counselling. Mr Needles once parked a box of tissues within my reach because apparently it is common for the needles to make you emotional after surgery. Strange, huh? I do understand your feelings about IVF (even though I haven't had it, going to the clinic gave me a taste), since going for it means admitting that something isn't right. But fortunately being a parent is about a whole load of things way more important than simply how a child is conceived (as I am sure you know well) and hopefully you'll find it all easier now you have some real-life support.

PnM I am very glad you got the dress. You sound very imaginative - I only ever wear clothes how they come out of the bag! And yay for the red shoes getting another outing. That book sounds like dross. Go on, tell us what it is if only to save us from choosing it. (BTW if it is total cack I have probably already read it!!)

GG I know it is weird wishing cycles would pass (I had to do that after first ectopic and it was strange...) but you'll find that they go by pretty quickly. One thing that may happen is that your first one is slightly longer. I found that I ovulated about a week later after my CP. Of course you might just as easily have a totally normal cycle but I just wanted to let you know that it might be a tad different.

MOB I hope the hospital is managing to help with your SPD. That does sound like a nightmare - are you still going to work?

Welcome to Akilli. May your stay here be a short one.

Higs to Bucky and ei. It's a shame not to have had any BFPs this month as there were lots of promising symptoms around, but regardless I am sure that you will all get your BFPs in the end. I am absolutely certain you'll all be lovely mothers.

Not much going on here. I am still feeling sick, especially in the afternoon and evening (although no puking yet). Today I have booked a meeting with a private midwife as I had a pretty bad time with the NHS last time. She sounds really nice and I am looking forward to having someone consistent with me through this pregnancy and the birth (if not to the bill!).

Hey girliwhirlies

Absolutely nada happening here, but thought I would drop by and say hi. I am been the busier than a really busy person this week at work. Its quite a shock to my system! I was so tired last night I turned down a night out .

PnM Glad you got the dress . Wish I had a wedding to go to! I suppose the fact that I am 100 years older than the rest of you can be blamed for the fact most of my friends are already married! Either that or they've already got divorced .

Caitni . Sorry TEW was an old cowbag and turned up again. Glad you have found stuff that you feel works for you though. I just found wine and fags , so you are to be commended.

MrsH Its nice to have you back off hols. Hope the sickness passes quickly.

GG Lets try the lunch thing again this week, although I really don't know what happened at work, how I got so busy?

Bucky waves to Ei, akilli (nice to have someone new on the thread, welcome) and MOB. Cracking open the Next Directory now...I have to replace the stuff I bought yesterday and then left on the platform at Paddington station ...I'm such a drongo.

Just realised I managed to make everyone's stuff about me in that post . Geez, I am self consumed.

BTW, PnM loving the accessorising, you should give us lessons. Sounds very Patricia Fields if you ask me and I love SATC.

OMG I just did it AGAIN ...I'm going...

morning ladies

Big sore head here...as I too discovered wine and fags last night ...so am now nearly ready to face the world again...time to hit crouch end to buy my niece's birthday present (she's turning two!) before some London Fields and rugby time (c'mon Ireland!).

Sorry for being down yesterday. Feeling much brighter today. And thanks to you all for kind words. MrsH I really loved your reminder that being a parent is about so much more than how a baby was conceived. I look forward to a time when we're all parents and all of this is a distant memory .

No time to reply individually other than to wish all the mothers a very happy mother's day tomorrow. Hope you all get spoiled rotten .

PS Bucky so sorry you lost your shopping. I've definitely been there and done things like that too. Still, a chance to buy even more nice things!

helo ladies!

Caitni - have you come back down to earth yet aftr the rugby win? What an exciting match - hope you enjoyed it in style in London Fields Don't worry about feeling down round here - that is what we are here for. MrsH is right when she says your baby will not care how he or she was conceived. Please don't beat yourself up about not being able to have a baby without assistance.

Bucky - hope it is quieter again at work for you. Did you hve a nice weekend? I am looking at a mega busy week, but DH is away (again) so I have the evenings free to put up my feet or catch up with friends, which is nice although i find myself a lot cling-ier than before. Think it is because the m/c etc happened when he was away.

Can I ask you Bucky and MrsH what happened to your cycles after you had a miscarriage and the ectopics? I don;t have any fo the usual cycle symptoms at all - no EWCM, no breast tenderness. Nada. I know it takes a while for everything to settle back down, but the absence of anything feels very odd after all the ups and downs of TTC and IVF

hello to PnM, MOB and everyone else. Ei hope you are ok - big wave to you. Does anyone have any exciting news?

Hi ladies

A quickie for GG because I have a private midwife coming over for a chat (hee hee!).

I don't have a chart for my first ectopic, and the situation was a bit odd because of the drugs terminating the pregnancy over time, but from when my HCG was at non-pregnant levels I think it took about 5 weeks for me to ovulate (I normally ov on days 15-18). With the second ectopic I ovulated on day 22 after my HPT turned negative.

I think the CP I had last year is probably the most similar to your circumstances and with that one I ovulated on day 24, so late again, and EWCM did not really appear until day 18. I was on holiday and travel can mess up my cycle but this was more extreme than that. It does go back to normal, but your body needs to reset itself and I figure it can take it a bit of time to realise that you are no longer pregnant. Just relax (please don't slap me for saying that!), it will happen but this first cycle can be an odd one...

BBL, hope everyone is ok.

MrsH - having a private midwife sounds like a fantastic idea. Have you settled on a hospital or birthing centre for the birth (assumign it's not a home birth you are planning? )? I know from reading your posts that you had a pretty awful experience and a traumatic time on the NHS with the birth of your DD, so good for you. have you now given up on job hnting for the moment or are you still looking?

Thank you for your advice about normalisation of cycles. I don't think I have ovulated yet (although i haven't been POAS to confirm wither way). Whatever happens it will be a waiting game.

caitni - wooooo hoooo about the fantastic Ireland Grand Slam win!!! (The less said about Scotland's performance against England, the better ) I hope you had a lovely weekend of celerbration and are now fully recovered. I hope you are feeling less down - don't worry about moaning here because that is what we are here for and I completely understand how you can feel like a failure because we have to resport to assisted conception. but don't - because you are not and you won't care one iota when you have your baby how it was conceived . ((((higs)))))). Oh, and I have started to follow your Mr Needles advice and I have been slogging my way through 2 litres of water a day, although is it just me or do you find that you are actually thirstier drinking that much?!

Bucky - is it quieter at work with you now? What is happening with your cycle this month?

PnM - our resident fashion advisor i might have to set you loos eon eBay to find me a perfect dress for weddings. How long until your sister's wedding? Are you feeling less hormonal.

MOB - if you are looking in, I hope to DTs are well and not kicking you too much! have you got a big bump?

Big wave to anyone else. Ei - are you out there ior is work keeping you busy?

I got the letter from Hamersmith hospital yesterday and my "you will get the first available consultant's appointment because you are priority" type appointment is on......Thursday 7th May It's only after that, that we get put back into the pool, so months of waiting. I got pretty depressed last night and called DH (he's in Munich) to tell him and the first thing he said was "We'll have to go private. We can't wait another six months. We'll use that appointment for a referral to the private wing and go from there as soon as it is clinically possible". So no more waiting for GG to have cycle #2 of IVF . I am thrilled because i really thought DH would argue that we should use up our "free" goes on the NHS first and I feel strongly that I can't wait any more. I still have to get through two AF's and a consultant's appointment though, but somehow it feels easier now.

In the meantime, I was wondering whether there is anything i should be doing (other than the usual health and wellbeing stuff)

Happy Tuesday everyone.

GGx