The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

[Bucky2008]

OK, so how about we start of on a positive....

I bought the test.

I did the test.

BFP .

Job done.

Ei I'm glad the funeral was ok-ish and that you and your DH are bearing up. It'll get better in time. (Oh god, I sound like Leona Lewis...)

GG get a load of your super ovaries! It's amazing to think they could be collecting eggs as soon as Friday. Kepp us posted, it's all eggstraordinary .

Bucky I'm sorry life is a bit shit right now. How are things in the Hut? There were a few times when I thought that we on this thread were starting to rival the Hut for gloom, but I guess we are not consistent enough on that front! (just call me Pollyanna). Are you still suffering from post-holiday angst?

I am starting to feel queasy and am trying to hide it from our nanny. I drove myself insant last night checking whether a 2.3mm sac is normal at this stage, but have decided that since uber-consultant told me everything is normal it must be so...
Thank god I am going away next week. Otherwise I think I would go insane sitting about and Googling!

That's OK MrsH, my whole life isn't shit, just the bit where I can't have a baby! . The rest of it is a bit of a party now that I don't even consider the 2ww a 2ww anymore! I read back a bit and glad that the bean is all fine and you are doing well. .

On a more vain note, I think the Clomid is making me fat! . It can't possibly be anything to do with all the food I ate in Miami and the copious amounts of cakes I eat...as I do this all the time .

I need my buddy PnM to come back, you are all WAY to happy, LOL . Aw, not really, its great to have lots of positive news at the moment. It's just crap that I will be the last one on the thread I started!!!!

MrsH - you've got nausea, that's brilliant (well, it's not, but i think you know what i mean ). It sounds liek you are really looking forward to your lovely holiday in South Africa (I'm very at you!) It's good to get away from google for a holiday and have distractions. I know I would be the same - wanting to know everything, but yet scaring myself witless with the information.

Actually, DH and I are toying with the idea of going away for some or all of the 2WW after EC/transfer, to keep me away from computers, CBD's, symptom spotting and the mulitude of other TTC temptations/obsessions. Ei is probably laughing at me already - Judith's only back on this thread for a week and she's already banging on about holidays . i think it's ok to dream about going somewhere warm and un-taxing. We haven't been anywhere since our trip to Bali in September and we've been through the IVF mill since then, but I wonder whether we should stay close to clinic in case of questions/panic/emergency etc etc or whether I am being stupid and go go away and enjoy myself . All views appreciated! Bucky - we were thinking of Miami actually (warm, direct flight, lots to do, DH's close friend is there) - will pick your brains for tips

Ei - yesterday must have been really tramatic for you and your DH. The funeral a big event to get through and it will take time to get over, but we're all thinking of you. Are you coming to the meet up on 28th Feb?

Bucky - I bet Clomid isn't making you fat. You are so slim! I am ballooning up on this Gonal F, so I can sympathise with weight issues. It's supposedly all water retention (erm...and some cakes . Chocolate and cake have replaced gin and wine in my life), but I could hardly get my knee high boots on this morning, my tummy is all swollen and I have fat, puffy hands.

Big wave to caitni. I need a good book to read, and I know you are the lady to suggest something. Have you any suggestions? You and MrsH recommended Alias Grace last time and I love that book!!

Are you ok today picknmix? Please pop in and post here. We miss you.

hello to anyone missed!

GG I'm not sure if the nausea is hormone-related or more sheer terror....

Going away after your transfer sounds like a good idea. I don't know what might come up that you would need your clinic's help with, since I guess after transfer there is little they can do to influence the outcome. One thing you might want to consider is whether, if the IVF doesn't work, are you going to stress that it was because you carried a heavy bag/ran to catch your flight/ate unusual food or something? If so, stay close to home. If not, go for it! (Not that I think anything the mother does really makes a difference following IVF, but it is about how you are going to feel IYSWIM).

Bucky I don't believe for a second that you are getting fat. Your idea of fat is probably my idea of post 1000 calorie per day diet for 6 months. Grr!

hi ladies
AF arrived today earlier than expected on CD 29 which means a 28 day cycle for me which is totally unheard of in this part of town i was very surprised but it means if my lp was the same as usual our "well timed BD"-ing was totally too late so we had no chance anyway!! i was talking to DH and he reckons his pop(grandad who died recently) will make sure of our having another baby cos he was constantly asking us when we were going to give him another grandchild like our DD and now he will have a hand in the workings of nature its a sure thing haha
MrsH yay for the nausea!!
hello to everyone else
xx ei xx

Hi ladies,

Ei sorry that the funeral was so hard, but I really like the idea that your grandad will now make sure you get the DC you both want so much

GG hope you're doing well and the bloating's not too bad. Are you still scheduled for egg collection tomorrow? If so I hope the HCG shot wasn't too bad. A holiday post-ET is a great idea! You and your DH can relax together after the IVF rollercoaster (and just think of how tricky it'll be to travel with a baby ). I'm currently embroiled in reading lots of right-on books for a friend who works at a freedom of expression organisation (tis broadly enjoyable but I at times regret volunteering when I read yet more yawnsome prose about women's rights in whereever - and then I feel guilty as it's such a worthwhile cause! Aaargh!). Anyway, one of the books I really loved in 2008 was Evening is the Whole Day by Preeta Samarsan (she's just been shortlisted for the Commonwealth Writers' Prize). It's nice and long too so perfect for a holiday

MrsH while I'm glad to hear of the nausea (yay - symptoms!!) I'm also not happy to hear iykwim as it can't be pleasant...

Bucky I also bet you're still a slim lady (though wish I had clomid to blame for the stone I've put on since last Sept ). I'm so looking forward to our meet up - anyone got any good ideas for where to meet up?

PnM hello sweetie - hope you're well.

Waves to all our pregnant ladies - hope all the beans aren't making you too uncomfortable!

MrsH, I've been upping my water intake this week as on another thread you reminded me of Gerad Kite's top tips. In spite of the peeing I'm actually feeling quite good from it. I must confess to being v skeptical as the water nazies I work with generally put me off - I like to tell them I don't drink it at work because of the plastic bottles just to try and freak them out - but since work's given us all aluminium bottles and the web is full of advice to drink lots of water when preparing for IVF I thought I'd change my attitude...I'm also signed up to see a Five Elememts acupuncture guy in Crouch End next week (that's the type of acupuncture they do at the Kite Clinic I think but there's no way I'm paying those prices!!). So in spite of still being the size of a house I feel like I'm actually starting to get myself in shape for IVF .

PS Ei also meant to say sorry that AF arrived . Perhaps all the stress made you ovulate earlier than usual...

Get me and my amazing thead-killing abilities

Hope the silence means you're all enjoying Friday and hope you all have a lovely weekend

hello all

caitni you didn't kill the thread. How are the hydration levels? I love accupuncture. Seriously, i think i will continue it even if I get up the duff on IVF It zones me out and really relaxes me, so I'll have to convince myself I need it for emotional balancing reasons or somthing. I am clearly wierd! .

ei i am so sorry AF got you. It will be your month very soon. Hope you're managing to keep cheery despite your loss and all is well with you.

Quick me me me me update - I had yet another scan this morning (caitni - if you do it, you will spend your whole IVF life with your feet in stirrups with a cold wand pokign around your unmentionables ) then got called this afternoon saying that egg collection is rescheduled for Tuesday (day 13). Apparently my folicles are numerous but all different sizes, so they are hoping that a few more will grow nice and big if they wait until Tuesday. So i will be Ovitrelle-ing on Sunday night

OMG GG this is all happening so fast. It's really cool!

Caitni I am here too, but not got much to say. The "nausea" (if you can call occasional mild queasiness that) is really no big deal. Actually I would like to be projective vomiting 5 times a day if that would mean that this bean is safe.

Today I was in Boots and nearly bought one of those CBDs to tell me if my HCG is rising, but resisted. Can you imagine the panic if it was less far than it should be again? No, am just ignoring all that sort of thing until my next scan in 3.5 weeks!

Let me know if the Crouch End guy is any good. Now I am not working there is not much point in schlepping in to Mr Needles (although I think I still have 2 sessions paid for, so maybe I will go a bit) and Crouch End is just down the hill from me...

Hey GG glad to hear you've got a date for EC! And doing the Ovitrelle injection on Sunday night is good timing (better than rushing home from work!). Those wand probe things are pretty funny looking but isn't it just amazing to see your ovaries!!! Can I ask a really dopey question (forgot to ask the consultant ) but do they collect eggs from both ovaries? I'm assuming yes, but don't want to have an incorrect assumption . And great to hear about your continuing love of acpuncture...my DH goes for his first ever session tomorrow so am hoping he falls for it too

hi MrsH - just x posts with you . Well done for resisting CBD!! I salute your will power - roll on 3.5 weeks

hello everyone,

caitni - they'll take eggs from either/both ovaries. They'll take whatever is there and ripe. Apologies for not being more scientific and specific, but I have deliberately (for my own sanity) chosen not to research too much about all the possibilities and nuances. It's too much, I think. I'm a lawyer and with my personality, I'd be round the twist, obsessing over detail if i knew too much, IYKWIM? That's purely me and how I feel and I realise that it may sound irrational when there is so much at stake, but sanity is imoprtant too and I have been very good about not Googling!!! The relative lack of information keeps me on a(relatively) straight edge!

I have noticed that some doctors talk you through everything, molecule by molecule and others turn the screen away and say "fine" after scans. I had a worry that you'd all think that I'm hijaking the thread for assisted conception stuff, so you all have to PLEASE tell me to shut up if that's the case. I am so pleased to be amongst regular TTC-ers .

hello to everyone else

GGx

hi ladies
CD 4 for me today and af has been the most normal and regular it has been for at least 6 months!! it is on its way out now so i should be back on the ttc wagon soon enough!
sorry for being absent most of the time but DH is struggling and i am spending alot of time trying to hold him together aswell as myself it is very hard at our house at the mo
hope this finds everyone well
i havent had a chance to read through yet but il have a look when iv got a chance
xx ei xx

Thinking of you Ei it's just nice to hear from you and know you are soldiering on. [higs].

GG don't be silly, of course we don't mind you talking about your stuff....you're an original shanger....xx

Me, nothing to report, just taking my last Clomid tab today CD6. I went to the doc for my blood test results and she informed me that the rules change as of April in Herts and I will be eligible for either 3 egg collections and transfers on the NHS, or upto 6 transfers if you get loads of successfully fertilised eggs on one of your collections! How amazing is THAT!! I was worried that if I do embark on IVF I would go through all of that only to MC and then my chance would be gone....but at least now there is hope! Yay .

apologies for going awol...

Wow, MrsH, am so chuffed that bean is in the right place - I did lurk to make sure that your scan went well but haven't had time to post before now (ridiculous week at work). How's the sickness? Well done for CBD resistance that way doth poas madness lie.

All seems to be happening so quickly for you GG, don't apologise for sharing your IVF experiences - am fascinated in it all. What is Ovitrelle? (apologies, am a novice in IVF terms!)

Am impressed with the water consumption Caitni - I'm rubbish at drinking water, always have to drink squash but drink it really weak (to fool myself into thinking thats just as good ). Do drink about 2ltrs a day but it turns me into a champion pee'er!

to hear af arrived for you Ei but I love the idea of your DH's grandfather being able to show your future LO the way. Hope you and DH are ok? Good about the normal af, tell her to pee off so you can get back on that wagon..

Where's my sht-body-buddy gone??? Hope you're having a good weekend Bucky*? And you, get fat? As if. Speaking of which, I have the best of intentions to lose a whole 2 stone by April 11th (I'm gonna be a bridesmaid for my sister), its not quite going according to plan though. Apparently, chocolate, garlic bread with cheese, wine, more cheese and may be a bit more chocolate doesn't constitute a healthy balanced diet?! Who knew??!

Apologies for outburst the other day. All got too much for me.

Anybody heard from MOB recently??

Oooo, got so sidetracked during writing that message I totally crossed posts with you Bucky .

Thats FAB news for you - yay indeed

LOL PnM SBB is the new BFF!... Oh how my life is one big acronym now...L8R dudes. x

Translated as 'Laugh out Loud, Shit body buddy is the new Best Friend Forever...Later Dudes.' x

Bucky - fantastic news about your local health authority. You are really lucky to have that on your doorstep! . Where are we going for the WIMBEWAIF meet up next week?

picknmix - great to "see" you back on the thread. i don't think you had an outburst at all, just a mini meltdown which is totally allowed round here ! I should definitely be on a diet - I'm feeling fat and frumpy, but I don't have to motivation of a wedding! What is your bridesmaid dress like? I bet you will look lovely.

Ovitrelle is the magic bullet injection IVF-ers take to prime for egg collection. It means you have 36 hours before your egg collection and it induces the artificial luteal phase (so I guess that means I am at the mercy of the speculum at 10am on Tuesday ). I have a little over an hour until I have to take it [nervous emoticon]. It will be my last one before all the BIG things start happening. I am feeling really jumpy this evening about the end being in sight IYKWIM

caitni MrsH - hope you are both having a lovely weekend.

Morning all

GG how did the jab go? Do you feel like your ovaries are all full up and ready to go? I think we all find the AC stuff really interesting, so if you want to go on about it do go ahead.

PnM I hope work is not too knackering. at your lose two stone plan. I know I could stand to lose a couple but whenever I try I lose about 10 lbs or so and then think "that's good enough" and fall of the wagon. Not that I am allowed to diet anymore of course . The nausea is mild and comes and goes so is perfectly manageable, but then I am only just 5 weeks and 3 days so there's plenty of time for that!

Ei I am sorry your period arrived, although more regularity does sound like a good thing. that you and your DH are having a tough time, and I hope it gets better soon.

Bucky Hurrah for different IVF rules. I hope your post-holiday come down has not been too bad.

Hello Caitni and MOB. Are either of you about?

Well, all is well here. I spent yesterday visiting some friends. We did not tell them our news since it is waaaay too early, but I am sure they have figured it out. She is pregnant and so on water, caffeine free coffee and pasturised cheese. And of course, without saying as much, so am I. I couldn't suppress a chuckle when the cheese board hit the table and the husband pointed out which cheese was pasturised to me. Ho hum.

DD and I are getting ready to skip of to SA on Friday. I am pretty excited and hoping my little house will be ok while I am gone. I suppose I ought to buy some more summer clothes but I can't be bothered, especially not given that come august I will hopefully be the size of a house (well, a small cottage maybe).

MrsH- LOL at the pretence around pasturised cheeses and caffeine free coffee. At least because your friend is preganant that you didn't have to request it or avoid the whole cheese board (a tragedy - cheese is my FAVOURITE ever as evidenced by my recent weight gain ). So exciting about your little bean - do you have another scan when you are back from SA? I am sure your house will be fine while you are away - do you have family/the nanny or a neighbour who can pick up the post and look in for you?

i know what you man about not buying clothes - i am wearing dreadful old rags on the basis I don't want to

My ovaries fell VERY full actually . Whether they actually are or not is another matter, but I can hope . It actually hurts to walk. Every time i put my heel down when i walk i feel a jolt inside because they are so enlarged, i guess, so I am tip toeing about and looking daggers at men on the Tube in the hope they would give a hopefully-pregant-woman-undergoing-IVF-with painful-ovaries a seat . I bought a baggy dress on Saturday to wear to a party, because I simply couldn't wear the dress I had - my tummy was so swollen that I looked about 5 months preggers and was so scared people would try to congratulate me or something awful . I also had to hold a glass of wine all night and not drink it (ok, I had a sip or two) but again, i really don't want people assuming ANYTHING at the moment.

This might be in the realms of waaaaaayyy TMI, but can I just say that the quantity of EWCM you get on this Ovitrelle stuff is astonishing . Ovulation x 14 levels

I think poor DH is now getting performance anxiety about tomorrow, bless him. I'll be jacked up in the stirrups at 10am and he'll have to trot off to the wanky porn room with a pot an dhave 10 minutes to do his bit in pretty unromantic suuroundings. If we conceive, we intend to point out the grotty gents lav and laboratory where they were conceived to our off spring

Oh dear...a me me me post again. Sorry all.

Come back everyone and post your news and keep my mind off tomorrow.

ei - hope you are ok and your DH is bearing up.

GGx

sorry, must check posts before pressing "go" so I finish sentences

I meant to say that I am wearing dreadful old rags because I am really hoping I will not be buying regular ladies sizes for a while and will have to buy pregant pady clothes

Oh god, MUSTN'T get my hopes up too high

You must be there already, but hope all goes well GG and have a good holiday MrsH. .

Hello everyone

Wow! What a lot of news to catch up on!!! As ever, apologies from me for being absent, but was on holiday last week, and had a frantic week at work before i went.

MrsH I am so so happy to hear your news, and especially that the little bean is in the right place! I can't describe how delighted i am for you. I bet you and DD are excited to be going off on holiday together, and it means that the time will hopefully fly by until your next scan.

GG Welcome back! Lovely to see you, and hear all about your IVF. It seems 5 minutes since we were doing all that. I have everything crossed for your EC tomorrow. If you want to ask me anything about it, then go ahead, i will pop in and check the thread through the rest of the day.It is very understandable about how your DH is feeling.My DH was really anxious about "performing" on the day as well. In the end he got it over with really quickly, but i know he was worried at the time. I am a bit at the clinic questioning the fact that he is not there for every single appt - TBH my DH only came along for the initial consultations, then for the EC & ET days. I didn't see any point in us both taking leave for all the scans etc. So don't let them make him feel bad!! I would say that booking a holiday would be a good thing for after ET, or at least planning lots to do to keep you occupied, as i found that to be the worst bit of IVF - the waiting. Anything that will take your mind of things and make time go quick would be good.

EI I am so sorry to hear of your loss. . You, your DH & all your family are in my thoughts. Look after yourselves.

RFN2&3 Congratulations on your news!! All the best people have twins

Caitni Hope things are ok with you, and you and your DH are settling into your new home. Hopefully life is less pressured without all the commuting. I am impressed with your water drinking, infact, i had to get myself a glass when i read your post, as i felt guilty that i don't drink enough!

Bucky Glad you had a good holiday, although for the BFN. I would really echo what everyone else has said about IVF taking pressure of the relationship. It means that shagging really can become shagging again!! I really pleased to hear that you would get a decent go at ivf should you require it. i'm sure your DP will come round to the idea, given time.

PnM I am still so at the limbo you are in, with the investigations etc. It just doesn't seem fair. Or rather, it ISN'T fair. I wish i could wave a magic wand and make it all better. I would also like to confirm that chocolate, garlic bread with cheese, more cheese, wine, etc is definitely a balanced diet!! Good luck with losing 2 stone, but don't give up all those things which keep us all sane

Well, as i said, we we away last week. We had a lovely week in the New Forest. Such a lovely part of the country, and fairly close to where i grew up, so plenty of opportunites for remeniscing (sp???) as well. I am now 18+3, so time is going scarily fast. For valentines day, as a surprise for DH, i went to have a private scan. We now have a DVD and loads of great pictures, including some of the 4D ones. It also appears that they are both little boys!! DS is of course delighted - DD was rather put out, until i pointed out that she will be the only girl, and therefore extra special!