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desperate for any help as no idea whats going on??!!! can anyone help me???

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Wishing · 24/10/2008 17:13

i have copied this to 2 post so sorry if im repeating myself but need advice of anyone who can help;

this morning got bfn with tesco cheapie fmu, was sure felt af terrible cramps down below, irritable and teary -got to work went to do a knicker chec and there was a brownish red stain in them, not had anything like it before and thought it was af starting, wiped it was mucussy (is that a word?? so put a towel into till af got going. was sure i could feel it all morning so cried to dh on phone, cried at my desk and was literally heartbroken. then got a call from my friend who has same cycle as me and also ttc this month, she was sure af coming but nothing and always has it first thing. we chatted and she went to get a test at 11ish VERY soon later she called me to say she had a bfp! i was so so happy for her she was so shocked and so happy but deep down i was falling apat - tears came i was gutted i just couldnt and still dont understand why i havent got a bfp - we did exactly the same, in fact i bd a lot lot more!! anyway went to change pad and there was nothing!! not a drop or a splurge!! awful cramps but no af, what i thought was af was just lots of cm! TMI WARNING - there is loads of it!! so at lunch i went to get a cb test - not digital and peed away - hadnt had that much to drink and got another bfp?? was so mad at myself cos was sure deep down that af was coming but hanging on to a hope that stain this morning was actually implantation bleeding. carried on to this afternoon and on another trip to loo to find no af i managed to go to loo, constipation for 2 days now and i managed to let a bit of it go - PAIN has gone>!>!>! ??? dont feel like af coming any more, something very wrong with boobs and have a banging headache and feel sick. WHAT IS GOING ON?????? still no af?? i do think headache and sickness may be all emotions im feeling but i have continued to cry over anything all day, im never this emotional! i no i am hanging on to a huge hope here but do i stand a chance this month??

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yellowflowers · 29/10/2008 20:03

Thinking of you wishing.

I am not a doctor but I am invovled in medical research in a way - don't want to sy any more because don't want to be recognised by anyone on here.

I have had some months ttc with no symptoms and some with lots of symptons including metallic taste and sickness very definitely not imagined. I think tuned in women can get symptoms early that are not in the mind and are probably sperm meeting egg but failing to implant, caused by changes in normal hormones rather than by hcg. I particularly think this because my symptoms are not on months when I want it more than others - I am ttc and want it every month, but some months have symptoms and some don't - this makes sense if, as suspected, sperm meets egg successfully half the time but implantation is much rarer.

Wishing · 29/10/2008 20:07

thanks yellow flowers!

i think the same, i think a lot of time sprem does meet egg and half the battle is the sucessful implantation which is unfortnately something thats impossible - as far as i know! - to try and control!!

i have too felt things some months and not others and understand yeah its something you always want but some months you can cope with it better. it helps to know that you arent imagining things either yellow as i have been sure i have at some points this month!!

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Sunnydale · 29/10/2008 20:43

Hello everyone - sorry not to post for a couple of days. So I went to see my doctor yesterday and left the surgery crying! So not a good look. I don't know what I was expecting, but honestly it just felt as though she wanted me out of the door! She gave me a form to get my blood tested for hcg levels and lutein (sp?), which I did this morning, and the results will be back in a week. Another week of not knowing

Wishing, I'm glad you still have no AF and I hope you're coping better with the wait. Glimmer, I had no idea about the stuff you're saying - that must have been incredibly difficult for you to deal with. I'm so sorry. Headfairy, I totally agree with you about the Hippocratic oath.

I feel pissed off tonight coz (I know it sounds stupid) I'd booked a reflexology treatment but the woman had to cancel, and I was so hoping it might help my AF get back on track. I figured maybe a bit of reflexology plus loads of spinach and other iron-rich food might induce AF to come back. Who'd have thought I'd ever be WISHING for AF!

Tyniclogs · 29/10/2008 21:24

Hello Everyone, can I join in? I'm waiting for AF to start on Friday after having been TTC for 3 months. Each time I've had symptoms and I know I've had chemical pregnancies, it's hard to fake nausea and the exhuastion. This whole thing does your head in after a while and I've found other female friends not entirely sympathetic about things. Most people haven't heard of chemical pregnancies so think it's all in my mind. This month I've had a horrible cold followed by a stomach bug for the past 5 days so I haven't felt sick..I've been being sick! This month I've just convinced myself it's not going to happen as it's hardly been the best start...I've not eaten for 5 days and dropped half a stone (the only upside that I can see!) Anyway just wanted to say how helpful it is to read that all over the country there are other women dreading their due on day and are feeling as crap as me every time you think about it all! I hope it all goes well for everyone, I have my fingers crossed for us all from my sick bed!

Glimmer · 30/10/2008 04:21

Hi everybody. Wishing - still finger's crossed: some get BFP much later than others.

Sunny, I am so sorry that trip to GP was not very helpful. I do not want to hijack Wishing's thread too much, but I can so sympathize with you, since I was exactly in the same position for months. TTC is stressful to start with, but wanting to TTC and not being able to, because one has not yet returned hormonally to normal is awful. Maybe we should open another thread?

I think they tests they did will be helpful. (Sorry it will take a week.) It's also very good that you got a BFN, so you know that your HGC is under 0.25 (or even 10) mIU/mg. And if you'll get a BFP you are certain it's a new pregnancy. Well, I also think that the cramping is a good sign - at least something's happening. Give it a little more time, AF might come any day now. I think reflexology is a great idea (sorry it was cancelled). I had some accupuncture and I believe I wouldn't have fallen pregnant so quickly after all the complications without it. Now, if you are really desperate there is one more thing they can do: if you were to get a scan, they can see if your endomitrium is buidling up or not. If it is, you will have AF withing two to three weeks. They probably do not want to do a scan for it, but if nothing happens....Finally, sometimes they have to "jumpstart" you hormonally after a mc
(that the expression my consultant used). It will happen by itself eventually, but they can accelerate the process. I do not know anything about the details, but they instigate a withdrawel bleeding (by a pill) and this might be linked to the lutein levels. (Okay here I am outside what I know about, but it was discussed in my case before the real reasons were found). And last but not least (and I am know this is not helpful at all) : stress can delay the onset of AF. Arrrr. If that's not a vicious cycle.... Thinking of you - this time will pass and everything will be sorted...

HeinzEVILSight · 30/10/2008 13:23

just popping head in door to say good luck everyone

am keeping an eye on this thread, hoping for good news for you. x

Wishing · 30/10/2008 18:05

hey girlies - lovely to read all your posts and thanks for all your good wishes - nice to now people are thinking of me! and dont be daft glimmer - no ones hijacking anything its great we can all jump in!!

quickupdate from me - still no af and really dont think i feel like its coming now??? i thought it might have been earlier but pretty sure im just having constipation cramps and bad wind - im so windy!! and im now on cd 36 - longest ever!!

34 days last month following mc and prior ot that was usually 28/29 day cycle - does that make me officially late???

sunny sorry that dr was no real help to you!! bin there so no its not a niced feeling but must say havent been through half what you and glimmer have - hope you feeling better today and really dont blame you for feeling peed off!! i will leave all advice to glimmer though if you dont mind cos what you going through is a little out of my league!! think of you though!! xxxx

welcome tyniclogs - any signs yet?? sorry you have been so poorly, keep in touch with how you getting on, your illness could be a good sign as pregnancy usually causes your immune system to pack in a bit so fingers crossed!! however im not saying its a good thing you ill by any means and hope you soon start to feel better, try keep something down if you can!!

thanks for good wishes heinz and glimmer im hoping i one of these where pg does take a bit longer to detect!!

xxxxxxxxxx

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LJ29 · 30/10/2008 18:10

Wishing, with both of my pregnancies I was incredibly windy and smelly!. I'm sure if you tested now it would be detected. I don't know how you're managing to be so patient!!

Wishing · 30/10/2008 18:16

thanks lj29 - mainly cos i dont have a test and been off work for a few days im just so tierd, havent been out and dh has car at work so not been able to easily get out!! he works lng hours!

im also scared that if it is another bfn that i have to admit im not this month and also look at the possibility of having another problem!! i arent up to that just yet, at the minute im safe in my own thoughts that i might just be!!

xxxx

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HeadFairy · 30/10/2008 21:40

Wishing, glad you're hanging in there. I hope when you're feeling strong enough to that you get a big fat bfp!!! Keep strong, and keep thinking positive thoughts.

I'm starting to get some signs that I'm about to ov... ewcm starting to appear, so that's very promising for this month

Sunnydale · 30/10/2008 21:55

Wishing, I'm glad you don't think I've hijacked your thread! It's funny how the threads meander around. I could start a new one but I like this thread and everyone on it. How long is it now until you think you can test? I completely understand why you don't want to. So long as you don't, you can pretend you are PG. I was exactly the same. How I loved the thrill of thinking I might be. It was a real downer when I tested and got a BFN.
Glimmer, I am enthralled by your knowledge once again! I see the doctor next Thurs for the results of my blood test, so I guess I'll try to press for a scan as well. Good luck to all on this thread and I feel SURE there will be some BFPS soon. Wishing, you really do sound PG from all your symptoms but again, I don't want to get your hopes up. But hey, isn't it lovely to hug your secret to yourself for a while and delight in the not knowing xx

LittleMissBliss · 30/10/2008 22:40

hi ladies watching this thread with fingers crossed for you all!

PrincessButtercup · 30/10/2008 23:27

Hi Wishing. I only just spotted this thread as I've been away over half term and off MN. You were very sweet to answer my post early last week about my early mc. I just wanted to wish you all the very best back! I truly feel for you in this dreadful am I/aren't I stage but it does sound promising that you're not feeling any AF symptoms at the moment; long may that continue!

MichaelaS · 31/10/2008 09:52

Hi all, just sant to say I'm still watching and waiting to find out what happens with you wishing and all the other girls on here!

I'm in a similar place, 4 days overdue for a 29 day cycle (previously advertised as 30 days, but I worked out the other day i'd been counting CD1 twice, one at each end of the cycle!). Tested negative when 1 and 3 days late with a clearblue early thing, so really not sure what to think. Like wishing i'm hoping i just have pants HCG levels and am actually PG, but I had a talk with a friend yesterday who just said "the tests are never wrong". At what stage are they definitely not wrong though?? I'm going to test again tomorrow (5 days late) so long as my pack of internet tests turns up.

Well girls, at least it's Friday!

Wishing · 31/10/2008 11:06

another bfn with clearblue digital and first response!! im sleeping so much? i feel sick all day. i just dont get this!!!!

aaaaarrrrggggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!

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LittleMissBliss · 31/10/2008 11:13

Oh wishing i got another bfn today and feel exhausted. still getting slight cramping. Lisad123 on the other thread said that she didn't get bfp until 12 weeks so head up lovely, there's still time.

Wishing · 31/10/2008 11:15

thanks!! god i cant cope with another 7 weeks of this though!!!

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LittleMissBliss · 31/10/2008 11:25

How long will it be untill you are 2 weeks late and they can take bloods? Could you book a drs appointment for that day so you have something to focus on. If you get a bfp before then you could still keep that appointment to arrange m/w referal. If A/f comes then you could just cancel. But i think you need something to focus towards.

I've got dr.s on Tuesday and i'm hoping that they will let me have bloods taken as i don't have a clue about my cycle. I'm not late as i haven't had a propper period for 10 months.

Wishing · 31/10/2008 11:28

i have a docs appointment today thinking about stretchingh the truth about my cycle to try and get them to tkae bloods as i wont be 2 weeks late until next week, im really worried hcg is not normal and i have had a very early mc before - i cant work i cant do anything im a wreck!

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HeinzEVILSight · 31/10/2008 11:29

poor you wishing, that might be an idea. The waiting must be torture. Have you done another test today?

Wishing · 31/10/2008 11:30

yeah heinz, 2!! both bfn!!

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HeinzEVILSight · 31/10/2008 11:32

thinking of you x x good luck

Wishing · 31/10/2008 11:33

thank you xx

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LittleMissBliss · 31/10/2008 11:37

Good luck for today wishing.

Wishing · 31/10/2008 11:41

thanks - dont think they will help me though, even thopugh its sendingme insane!
xxx

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