***TAKING CLOMID FOR THE FIRST TIME - PART 2***

[DungunGirl]

Hi ladies!

Hope you find the new thread!!!

Hi

first time on this site, been taking clomid 50mg for 5 mths now. fell preg 1st time but miscarried early on. getting very down at the moment need a support group? i am only 23 have a 3 year old daughter was a big shock when we tried for over a year and nothing happened. got told i have early pcos. every one around me seems to be falling preg so cant really talk to any one about it. i am also the first one out of my friend group to get married and have a child so been alone for a while. i hate this waiting game every mth you get your hopes up only to see that hts say negitive.
it would be great to chat to other women on clomid!

Hi krumbockmummy- have been on clomid now for 4 cycles- have pcos and tend to have lengthy waits in between. i was pregnant in july 07 but m/c and didnt have a period for 6 months after that. I am just a random poster on this site but there are a lot of people here who understand what you have been through and are going through every month when nothing happens- it is devastating. aside from the disappointment i could go on a 6 month around the world trip on the money I have spent on home pregnany tets!!! aarggh i hate them. i have been pregnant twice before, both mc, but remember that feeling so clear of seeing the blue lines appear. i keep wishing for that same thing to happen every time i pee but nothing- is sad. however one thing ive learned from the very strong women on this site is not to give up hope! good luck krumbockmummy and stay on mumsnet!

HI Vics

Rang the consultant and he said not to worry unless persistent well it went by that night so not too worried

OPKs (ovulation predictor kits) still not gone +ive which is strange but acupunture this afternoon so maybe that will push it on.
On clomid if you are using them meant to start 5/6 days after last pill.

If it never does will be ringing consultant for blood tests as he said he didnt think needed it this month as result was so promising last month.

Are you having your blood tests and scans?

krumbockmummy dont be despondent we are all going through the same thing together. I have found that everyone on here keeps everyone going, although we all have our down moments there is always someone to pick you up.

Lots of baby dust to you all

Hi Pinkie08

Please do NOT use opk's at all if you're taking clomid (clomid encourages LH production so can give false readings) or especially if PCOS is an issue.

Hi AttilaThemeerkat

i hear you but am worried that LH surge isnt happening as not had a +ive yet so now obsessed and cant seem to stop using them. Shouldnt i be getting false +ives (its all too confusing for me)

am going to bd next few days and then get back to every other. What do you think??

OPK's work on two misleading principles - namely that a rise in LH is followed by ovulation and that women only have one rise in LH every month. Both are not true.

They are certainly of no use if clomid is being taken to make the ovaries work harder (this is clomid's main job).

Ok so no to the OPKs - but maybe a yes to the acupuncture and following the every other day (but every day for next few ) which should be ovulation time??

What do you think

and thanks for your help

Hi pinkie08,

Ok so yes to the acupuncture if you think it helps but no also to any notion of timing of intercourse (you'll wear yourselves out and the man can end up feeling used). Timing of intercourse is particularly bad news - it is all too easy to get the ovulation date.

Do you have a diagnosis of the underlying problem?

Hi attila

I dont seem to ovulate and have low progesterone which in turn means start spotting 4 days before AF arrives which created short LP.

Last month on clomid was ok exhausting and overheating were only two side effects and blood test results came back really good so thats encouraging.

The acupuncture has got rid of the overheating so not complaining and there doesnt seem to be anything negative about using it alongside clomid.

You seem really well informed, have you been on it do you have experience with it.

Hi everyone,

Been following the thread for a while now, i am on clomid also.

Pinkie i have been on clomid for 3 months, and every month i have charted my temperature with a Basal Body Thermometer and used OPK sticks. And the OPK sticks have been spot on every month. They have only ever showed 2 lines about 2 / 3 days before i actually ovulated. I know the day of when i ovulated because temperature goes up the day after i ovulated. So in my experience they have helped me pin point when i am going to ovulate. Still waiting for a BFP!!
I have also spoken to my doctor about using OPK sticks whilst on clomid and hehas never said not to use them.

I buy my opk sticks off the internet and i pay about £12 for 50 so its not too much money to be forking out.

Hope this helps , good luck and loads of baby dust to you xx

Hi Pinkie,

Am going to use OPKs this month the clear blue digital ones and they specfically say that you can use them with Clomid.

Feeling Very tired at the mo and supposed to start BDing tonite what fun realy have not got the energy. i'll have to lay back and tell him to get on with it. he he.

LOVELY NEWS! ( even though a bit late )

The original lady who started this thread ( part 1 ) has had a healthy little baby girl.

All thanks to Clomid.

Some of you may have known her - Sambrads.
Little girl born 2nd Oct.

Some nice news to keep spirits up!!!!!

Hi all - got the results of my 21 day bloods today and was 40.1 so hoping this is good??
Af due on Friday and am keeping my fingers crossed it wont arrive but beginning to lose hope a bit - symptoms this last week n half have been indigestion, bloated stomach and sore boobs (diff to usual) but today i feel i am getting period pain so feeling bit P*ed off now. Stopped myself doing any tests as dont want to waste my time

Hi all,

I have rechecked the info in the clearblue opk instructions and it says they can be used with clomid. Have been to acupuncture and am going to keep testing til afew more days then at least if i never have a +ive i can tell consultant and he can do blood test and we can move on from there.

peju anything over 30 for someone who is on clomid is a good sign.

vix68 i am going to temp next month someone says the temp goes down when ov then goes up after ?? any thoughts on that.

Baby dust to qll

I was not able to take clomid due to me being unsuitable to take it (I have PCOS) but it was mooted as a possibility at one stage. Clomid certainly has its place but it should be given to all patients with a degree of caution (and certainly monitoring).

I would not use temp charts at all if you are taking clomid; its unreliable at best and wrong at worst. You're better off having blood tests done; at least these will give an accurate result of your hormone levels.

If you don't yet have a diagnosis I'd start asking awkward questions to your consultant. Its not ideal to be given a drug treatment without a diagnosis beforehand.

Attila

How long have you been trying.

I am sorry that you are suffering with PCOS. What are they doing for you, something i hope. I had it many years ago. and my pregnancy with my DD cured it. This can happen and was told it might. but i have scarring on my ovaries and they dont function well.

My consultant has been doing blood tests and is very happy with the results. i had to go through them for 3 months before he would prescribe the clomid and is now very happy with how its working so not too worried.

Ray

forgot to ask how did it go with pain in shoulder did it fade away

Lots of baby dust to all

Unfortunately (and thats an understatement) PCOS can be controlled but not fully cured. The cystic follicles on the ovaries associated with this condition always come back.

I had ovarian diathermy surgery just over a decade ago now and was advised that I would need more surgery (I also have endometriosis as well which is widespread). So I haven't had any more children, I am indeed fortunate I am a parent at all.

You may find www.verity-pcos.org.uk to also be helpful.

With best wishes

Attila

Hi all,

PINKIE - I have exactly the same difficulties as you. I do not ovulate,(had an ectopic and cysts removed which caused scarring) and I also have low progesterone which causes spotting 3/4 days before my period. Although I hadn't realised that was what it is!!

ATTILA - PCOS is a difficult thing by the sound of it. I agree with what you say about being monitored during the use of clomid. I had terrible pain during the night and went straight to doc this AM. (Who promptly told me it was nothing and I should stop stressing) Nevertheless, it sounds like clomid can be quite temperamental.

I think I will take my clomid, get scanned on day 10 and have bloods too, and see what happens. I'm not good at measuring sticks and things and tend to get a bit obsessed by it all.

Love to all

Vic x

Hi Attila - im quite surprised you have not been given clomid as you have PCOS as this is the reason i was given it
My symptoms with PCOS are weight problems and i dont ovulate so was given clomid to stimulate this. Do you ovulate? Did the dr give you a reason for not giving it?? I was told this is the first step for those of us with PCOS and no ovulation.

I was not suitable to take it due to my very high LH levels (the cons gynae said it would not help me as clomid encourages production of LH). I have the classic LH/FSH imbalance associated with this condition.

It should be given to PCOSers with a degree of caution; some PCOSers can become clomid resistant and therefore it should only be used for 6 months. No monitoring whilst on this is a complete no-no - women should be monitored.

Was not ovulating at all - I ended up having ovarian diathermy surgery and this worked.

Hi pinkie

I have temped for the last few months, and i find it really helps to pinpoint the exact day you ovulate.

Some people's temp may go down slightly just before ovulation and then your temp rises once you have ovulated. But not everyone will get a dip in temp. That's why i find it useful to use opk sticks , as they show when i am about to ovulate and then my temp charts confirm that i have ovulated ( with the temp rise ).

It is a pain to take your temp, cos u have to take it at the same time every morning, before you get out of bed, etc.. I set my alarm every morning for 06.00am take my temp , make a note and then go back to sleep!! But i think its definetley worth it, because after doing it for a few months i can see a constant pattern in my temps, and my ov day is always D15.

I am going to start acupuncture when i get back from my hols, hoping this will help!!

My blood tests show that the clomid is working, my dp's sperm is fine but i do have mild endometriosis. But i have had no symptoms of this since starting clomid. I am just praying i fall pg soon as i cant bear the 2WW every month!!

Hello to everyone else and good luck to all xx

Hi all,

I think that we all need to remember that clomid is a powerful drug and has been usedt by the docs/consultants for over 30 years, they know what they are doing prescribing it and we should trust them

There are loads of BFPs on this thread that have arrived from the use of clomid and although in some circumstances it is not viable or appropriate there is (hopefully) another solution.

VICS i didnt realise it was a symptom either when it first started happening put it down to stress of moving and planning the wedding. You were right to let docs know when you have pain. Its better to be safe than sorry. I got the same response when had abit of spotting the other day.

Lots of baby dust to you all

Hi girls,

A down day today Doc says mood swings are not part of clomid side effects?! I am hoping they are. I have one grumpy DP and DS today because of me. I look like a bullfrog with the amount of crying going on!

Hopefully it will be worth it. (Not looking forward to that 2WW every month either Vics67.)

Love and hugs to all

hi cam

were are you darling ?

how are things going havent heard from you in along time hope you are well

take care love lauralou