emmsys room...only a few left...we WILL graduate the final few :-)

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hi ladies
here is a nice new thread with some nice brand spanking new bags of baby dust....
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i will bring our list over in a sec after i have linked
COME ON GIRLS WE WILL GET TO THAT ANTENATAL THREAD BEFORE EMMSY POPS!!!!!!!
xx ei xx

Oh TeeHee thank god it's not just me sitting here crying whilst I'm reading everyone's posts. It makes me so desperately sad that we have to go through all of this sh*t. And yet there are some complete tossers out there that have children they don't even want. Makes me so and .

Sorry, just had a good blub. Little more composed now.

Sparkly Hang in there lady. I think the worst might be over. Keep taking the painkillers and stay in bed. You'll be weak from the blood loss. Eat iron rich foods if you can. Most brekkie cereals are fortified with iron. I didn't actually know if I'd passed the sac as just had lots of large clots. But like you, I hated the whole bloody thing. Felt very traumatised after it.

Fruity if Mollie is going to be your Pa, then can i be your wedding planner? I'm totally anal about organising things and can work to a really tight budget (that's waht 10 years in PR teaches you!). Cool about 24th. Looking forward to it.

Mibbes So glad that your scare is over. Must have been terrifing for you. Rest up lady. Make sure you get lots of TLC over the w/e.

TeeHee it's such a bummer getting MS. Only thing that helped me was salt and vinegar crisps and slatightly flat Lucozade.

Kate Go get 'em tiger. Bet you're really scary in court! And hope the accupuncture goes well. I loved having mine done. Am going back to see mine on 30th Sept.

Ei Can we be symptom buddy's?! You got any yet, cos I sure as hell haven't.

Where's Emmsy? Anyone heard from her?

CoffeMorning 20th Sept at Le Pain Quotidian (i think that's how you spell it) on Wim Vill High Street. Next door to Cath Kidston. Will give proper direction next week. it gets very busy so shall we try and meet at 10am so we can get a table? or I cna get there for 10am and baggsy all the seats!!!

It's Mollie's 7th birthday today. Gasp. Have got ex-h, Mollie's other (step)sister, 5 girls, Mollie, Libby and DH on Sat night for M's party and sleep over. Ex-h and other sister not staying the night. That would just bo toooooooo weird .

Hugs to you all. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Fruity that should read, 'your PA' Not suggesting that Mollie is your Pa (father!!!!). Doh.

Thx ladies, I'm ok today, just a bit tired and emotional last night I think, with af arriving and the 3rd pregnancy announcement the day before Feel like such a b**ch as I'm happy for them but annoyed about myself
How are you doing Sparkly? Sounds like things might happen on their own, but then again I only passed everything on my 6th day of bleeding. I had about 4hrs of quite noticeable cramps and no painkillers thx to being in the City and then on a train home, as I was caught out big time on a day out in the city with dd1 . I wasn't planning on seeing anything, but had no choice as I passed the sac on the footpath walking back to the car, but I am forever thankful that I had got off the train 5min earlier. Somehow also managed that dd1 to not see anything, don't know how she didn't notice the blood, but I was practically frog-marching her in front of me, rather than next to me. I soaked through pads every 10min for about 3hrs, whilst the worst of it happened, after that it all calmed down. I tried explaining this to dh when he got home from work, but I don't think even he got the enormity of what had happened, they are spoilt with how we manage to just 'cope' with everything aren't they. Don't want to freak you out but after 5 days of normal period like bleeding, this happened to me with no warning and I would hate anyone else to be as unprepared for it as I was.
My only advice is to stay close to home for the next few days and have lots of pads and a change of clothes with you if you do go out. Better to be prepared than majorly caught out like I was. I found doing things with the dd's a good distraction, it's hard but otherwise I think I would have sent myself crazy, with nothing else to focus on. Thinking of you lots
Fruity, I bought my wedding dress when on holiday in the US (we'd been on a 5mth holiday and the US was our last stop). I knew dh and I would have no money when we returned to the UK so I found a dress I loved in Macey's, for US$100, I still have the price tag Do you have any idea of what style you might like?
How was your acupuncture Kate? I had some more this afternoon, fingers crossed this is our month And how are you doing after your smear ordeal, & the wedding as well? Sounds like you need to hibernate for a while and not see any 'friends'
Sorry to hear about your scar Mibbes, good that everything is ok now.
How are you feeling now Teehee?
Hi to everyone else

Hello again!

Sparkly I'm so glad to hear you got some sleep. Have you spoken to the hospital today? Could you maybe ring them and tell them what happened over night (possibly exaggerating at any stage if necessary) to try to get them to scan you today? I wouldn't say that if it wasn't Friday, but most hospitals don't seem to do scans over the weekend, and I just think it might help you to have an idea of what you have coming or if the worst of the physical side of things is now over before we hit the weekend. Am thinking of you lovely.

Scully you are one strong lady. I remember reading about the circumstances of your mc at the time (think I was lurking somewhere at that stage) but I didn't realise you'd acturally passed the sack in the street . It really is unbelievable what we go through isn't it? And yet, here we all are, desperate to get pg again... nutters. Sending you big love xx

Georgie not sure I'll make it to you by 10am on 20th I'm afraid, especially if I'm coming from deepest darkest Hampshire. That would entail getting up even before sparrow-fart o'clock, and not having any children, I try not to do that at the weekend! I hope that doesn't sound really selfish, but if I get up before 7am I'll feel dreadful and look terrifying! Can we say see you there by 11? Or could just say as soon after 10 as we can? I hope that doesn't sound horrible lazy, it's just that the trains are normally a bit of a disaster on a saturday...

Ooooo wedding planning Fruity! My favourite! I loved planning mine ours! I agree with what the others have said re the dress, I reckon you should go and look now to at least get an idea of what style you might like, then you should be able to leave the final fitting to a few weeks before the big day to make sure it actually fits! But many of them seem to take MONTHS to order... A friend of mine is a wedding planner actually, no idea what she charges though. Check out www.thepinkpumpkin.co.uk Also, don't know if you want a photographer, but ours was AMAZING! He's based in North Finchley so not that far from you - www.stephenswain.com And a lot cheaper than many. Or he was 3 years ago... There are loads of photos on his website so even if you don't like him they may give you some ideas. He took the wedding shots that are on my profile page, and as you'll see on 20th I look NOTHING like that in RL (sadly!)

Right. Off to check on the carpet fitter..... Will let you know how the accupuncture goes. Am hoping she might be able to do something about the bleeding from the biopsy. Frankly it's really p*ssing me off. Not that it's that much, but it's a constant reminder & I bet it's screwing with my cycle, which seemed FINALLY to be sorted out, and having to use pads rather than tampax is such a horrible reminder of you-all-know-what.... Am only moaning really, not that upset, just getting a bit militant about how rubbish things seem to be atm... Still, as some positive soul once said to me, things are rarely so bad they can't get worse! And on that happy note...

PS forgot to say before, Mollie I feel like a really crap friend for not knowing the answer to this and I'm really sorry, but was your most recent mc your 2nd or your 3rd? The only reason I ask is have you seen the posts Jules has done over the last few days on MC Avengers about Natural Killer Cells and the 2 trials currently being run by Raj Rai in London (colleague of Lesley Regan) and a consultant at LWH? If it was your 3rd () it might be worth a look. HTH! xx

Sparkly I see you're getting loads of advice from Dr Kate & Dr EI, they should have their own show! Hope you've managed to get some rest, at least you smell nice now How are things since this morning, any more clots? Pain? I hope DP is running round after you whilst you lie like a princess Isn't there iron in chocolate too Love 'n' hogs
TeeHee Hope you're feeling less poorly now hun
Scully Keep your chin up hun x
Kate Looking forward to the cookies
Fruity I got married 21st Sept 2004 and had fantastic weather, we go away for our anniversary every year (only once abroad) and we have been lucky everytime. You're venue is gorgeous so you musn't change it, at the end of the day so long as you are dry and warm who cares about the guests, they can layer can't they With regard to the dress shopping, I put it off as long as possible as I knew it would be a bad experience. I didn't buy mine until July and they still got all the alternations done, be warned alterations are mega expensive as if they don't rip you off with the dress enough. Anytime you mention the "w" word everything triples in price!

Kate Cross posts, yummy cookies thanks! This one was my 2nd m/c and that doesn't make you a crap friend at all (and the cookies make up for it anyway )

Can I join the not deserving rant please! Just had a horrible experience,I am having such a shit day, I just interviewed an 18 yr old girl who had a baby of 7 mths, she told me that she asked for the baby to be taken into care as she ?couldn?t be bothered to look after her?! She apparently doesn?t like mornings, she likes to lie in bed all day and not get up until late afternoon. I asked if she had a specific day to visit her little one, she told me no as she can?t be asked!

How I didn?t stab her with my pen I don?t know, I nearly lost it! God I am so pissed off and angry, people like her just don?t deserve children! Also the woman that interviewed her before came over to check I was OK and then said well at least you know you can conceive. I was so not in the mood, I just turned round and said yes but I can?t keep them alive! Feel a bit bad now as she looked upset!

Right rant over x

I can't believe you have to deal with people like that when you have so much to deal with Mollie..It's so unfair . BIG hugs to you.

I can't really focus on reading and the moment so sorry I'm not keeping up with everyone.

I'm still emotionless...haven't cried for 2 days but have managed to smile a few times.

Had a long chat with my friend this afternoon (the one who lost her DD recently) and that was lovely.

No more clots or bleeding. The painkillers I was given by GP friend were running low so DP phoned the doc and he sent across some Co-Dydramol. They seem to be working but I don't really feel like getting out of bed.

Lots of love to all you supportive ladies....xxx

Mollie Grrrr It is hard not to be bitter when you encounter people like that and don't feel bad about biting back at your colleague. That is one of my most hated comments and have had it a few times. I mean no-one says "I really fancy being pregnant 3 times in 9 months" they say " I want to have a baby" People are just so dumb sometimes, maybe she'll think twice next time (phew - teehee takes deep breath and a large handful of Kate's cookies)

Fruity Good idea to try on dressses now I think. My brother got married in October and said it was great as they didn't plan for fantastic weather so if it was horrible there were contingencies. Turned out to be a cold crisp but sunny day for the most part. They served mulled wine on arrival at the reception rather than champagne or wine which I thought was a nice touch. It could work in your favour- I always feel sorry for couples who have opened top things in July and then it pisses down.

Georgie I will struggle for 10 as well. Will already have to get an 8am train as coming from Nowich. Probably closer to 11 I should think. Perhaps we could get you to go at 10 with a big bag of jumpers and spread them strategically over the chairs!

Kate Know what you mean about pads they are like revisiting miscarriage hell!

Feeling a bit better - haven't been sick anymore just feel sick most of the time but managed to eat lunch and headache gone which is a relief. On sofa and little cat has not left my side all day - he even sat on my lap earlier which is a great and rare honour.

TeeHee Your cat must know your poorly, how sweet x
Sparkly I hope you stay in bed all weekend madam, if you don't feel like getting up don't! And don't worry about keeping up on MN either x

Just taken ages writing a long post, and closed the bloody window by accident, children are now all awake and starting to get a little noisy so can't stay on for long!
sparkly hope your as well as can be expected, given the crappy circumstance xxxxx
mollie some colleagues,friends and relatives can be really 'thick' at times,it's a good job you have 'us' lot to keep you sane! and your wonderful councellor of course!
HTGG I'm never too far away, thanks for asking about me, just got loads going on and its usually got a lot to do with my wonderful 'dysfunctional' family (take a look at my due in October thread for a small snippet of the next saga that is unfolding)
love to you all, I will pop in is as much as possible to read your posts, but can't promise to post every time,keep your chin/s up and remain as supportive as possible to each other, you are all so lovely xxx

Hi *Emmsy, nice to 'see' you
Glad you've got a good friend to talk to Sparkly
Mollie, don't envy your job at all, dealing with people like that Your colleague meant well, but people need to just keep quiet sometimes, don't they. I had a comment on Facebook last week about feeling fed up, a girlfriend noticed and asked why, so I told her I wasn't pregnant again this month and have had 3 people tell us they are expecting (it's now 4, today) and she came back with, 'well at least you can fall pregnant, I won't be having anymore children (she's divorced) and how do you think I feel everytime someone announces their pregnancy' I feel very sorry for her that her marriage broke up and she doesn't feel that at 36 she might meet someone and have another child, but that's not my problem quite frankly. My comment was about how I was feeling, which she asked about, I didn't volunteer the information. Annoyed me a bit, don't ask if you don't want to know why people are feeling how they are
Anyway, that's my whinge for tonight
Love you comment about getting up early Kate, I consider anything 7am and after, a sleep-in Although tomorrow as I need the car, I am dropping off dh and dd1 to go fishing at 5.30am dd2 and I may come back to bed I think, still deciding whether to go to 7am or 9am church, seeing as we are up so early.
Have a nice weekend everyone

Blimey Scully 5:30! and on a Sunday too! That 's the middle of the night you know? Also [shocked] at your friends response - I mean it's not a competition as to who has the right to feel down hearted! It really does still amaze me how this topic can bring out the most unbelievable insensitivity.

Sparkly Hope you are taking it easy, stay in bed if you want. Anything that makes you feel better.

We are off to Shropshire this afternoon for DP's Dad's 65th lunch tomorrow. We are being very sneaky and not telling anyone we are going today so we can stay in a hotel and go out for dinner! Not that I feel like eating much as am still feeling dreadful, not really looking forward to 3.5 hours in the car. I never realised that it is possible to feel hungry and sick at the same time.

Also got my scan date through this morning 24th Sept - my birthday! Let's hope it's all good news hey.

Have a good weekend ladies. xx

Great b'day date Teehee, mine's the 25th Sep
I remember that nauseas/hungry feeling, weird isn't it, but worth it
That's what I should have said, it's not a competition, only think of these things much later though

Hope you have a good time in Shropshire Teehee and that you are able to enjoy the nice meals tonight and tomorrow lunch time. I also remember that sick/hungry feeling... Not nice.
Emmsy Good to see you Hope everything is going OK for you.
at people's insensitive comments... Mollie I'm sorry you're having to deal with people like the client yesterday at the moment. Not what you need As for your colleague, she probably meant well (people made that very same comment to me several times post-mc) but if she'd really thought about it she'd have kept her mouth shut. I'm afraid I wasn't as brave as you when people said that to me - hopefully your colleague won't make the same comment to anyone else now.
Scully I'm also shocked at your friend's response - as you say, when somebody asks you how they are you don't expect to get drawn into a competition about who feels the worst do you?
Sparkly Hope you're feeling as OK as you can be and that you've been able to put your feet up and rest. Mc really takes it out of you so take it easy over the next week or so.
Everthing OK here - DH and I went to look at tiles and bathroom suites for our extension today The building work is going well and hopefully the extension will be up by the end of the month. Then the walls need plastering, the electrical and plumbing work needs doing and all the tiling/bathroom/utility stuff needs installing... It should be just finished by the time the baby comes, fingers crossed.
Hope everybody is OK - have a good weekend

Well my 5am start wasn't too bad, helps that the sun was up by 5.30am when we hopped in the car to drop dh and dd1 off
Taking dd2 to church this morning, as she is being christened next Sunday, priest wants to welcome her to the church community before the christening. I go regularly with dd1 but don't take dd2 often yet, she's 2.5, that should explain it
So hopefully she can last until the blessing and then I'll probably stand outside with her the rest of the time
Then we have a grade1 picnic with the other families from dd1's class
here

hi ladies
sparkly hope you are ok as can be expeceted xxx
scully the water park looks lovely you will no doubt have a lovely day
mollie so sorry you have had such a poo time of it with work i wonder when people will realise that anything but symapthy is inappropriate in situations such as this. well meant but insensitive comments just wont cut it!!
teehee i remember the hungry/bleurgh feeling with DD such a strange feeling
emmsy lovely to see you
fruity how are you?
hello to everyone else
so im 7dpo today and having the usual twinges that can be confused as preggy signs
georgie any for you??
AF is due on thursday morning with my lp as 11 days but FF is recommending i wait til next sat to test so i may put it off til then and see if af arrives by then or not as i will bankrupt us if i test any earlier
so anywho... hope everyone is having a nice weekend
xx ei xx

Hi all,
Just a quick one from me - have a really bad headache.
Am doing ok. Went for a small walk in the park today with DD on her bike and DP. I was then so exhausted that I had to come to bed.
No bleeding or pain today - my sister suggested that it might all be finished but I doubt it - I've hardly bled.
Not looking forward to Tues.

Sparkly I hate to think of you going through all this at the moment ... Your sister may be right though, fingers crossed she is. Will the hospital see you tomorrow or do you just have to wait until tuesday? PLEASE don't let them force you into going down the drugs route if it's not what you want. Your body, your choice. Bottom line. If they think you shouldn't wait until friday for an erpc (if you need one) then they'll just have to fit you in before Friday won't they? Glad you managed a walk though, even if only a short one. That's still more than I've done this weekend . After my first mc I had a headache for about 4 days, nothing I did seemed to shift it. With hindsight, I should have gone for some accupuncture, I'm sure that would have got rid of it . Would you consider that? Sending hugs xx

Scully I would be really of your trip to the waterpark, if it wasn't so similar to where I have been today. nice huh??

Mollie the stuff people come out with amazes me even now. And as for that girl... FWIW one of my closest friends said something similar to me after Thomas was born, and I said exactly the same as you - "I don't think it counts if they're dead" Bit harsh perhaps. But hopefully it means she'll never say anything so silly to anyone else. Hope you're ok xx

Well, accupuncture on Friday was fab, in all ways bar one. She wants us to wait for another 3 months before we start trying . She said my pulses were all really weak, apart from one. But apparently the one that was ok is the one that can be a problem with people who have long-term fertility/mc issues so that was good. She said that if that one was as weak as the others she would have been saying to wait much longer. Also she said the 'bad' pulses improved significantly while the needles were in. TBH I do believe what she said, I've been feeling so dreadful that if she told me I was fine I would probably have thought she didn't know what she was talking about, so I guess I can't win! Given that we have to wait another 6-8 weeks for the results of the 2nd smear and the biopsy anyway I think we should do as she says. It may only be another month on top of the time we have to wait anyway, and I'd rather do that than have another mc and always be wondering 'what if'... DH is quite frustrated by it all I think. He's not the biggest fan of alternative therapies and he's worried that every time we get close to trying again someone tells us not to... IT'S SO RUBBISH!!! But I do think that the accupuncture helped, I feel much better than I have been. She wants to see me again on Friday because of where I am in my cycle, and I have hypnotherapy on tuesday [nervous emoticon], so hopefully by next weekend I'll be so relaxed I'll be practically horizontal - although possibly not the sort of 'horizontal' DH would like!

Hello to everone else, hope you've all had a relaxing weekend. We're off to see Mamma Mia in a bit with our old neighbours - DH hasn't seen it yet... Will be really interested to see his reaction

Quick update and I will catch up with everyone else later.
I just text sparkly as I haven't been on MN all wkend, her DP told me she's in hospital, they had to call an ambulance as the pain got too much. They have given her painkillers and she is more comfortable now. I'm sure she'll be back asap, but didn't want you to all be wondering where she was x

Morning girls.

Has anyone noticed that if you don't post for a day this thread falls off the "threads you're on" list? I had to go and find it. I would have thought it would last longer than a day!

Anyway, now the weather has brightened up lately I'm a little less apprehensive about the wedding next year

Georgie I can make anytime on the 20th so I'll just work around you lot. Perhaps we could get there for 10.30 and save some seats? Or get there for 10 and pretend we're really rich by going into all the posh shops like Matches I like to do that. Just getting into practice for when I'm loaded
Did Mollie have a lovely birthday?
Yes you can be my wedding planner although I think Mollie likes to do wedding planning don't you Mollie? 2 lots of ideas are certainly better than one

I'm hopeless at all this wedding malarky, I have no idea what I want. I sort of need a push in the right direction. I'm not creative or imaginative in the slightest I quite fancy a sort of enchanted forest, fairies, dragonflies and butterflies idea iykwim? A little bit hippy maybe? but without all the bright colours. I'd like it to look very natural. I think someone on here suggested a centre piece of twigs and leaves which I'm sure could be made into a pretty centre piece.
We're supposed to have booked the registry office by now I think but haven't got around to it yet. I hope it'll be free or we'll have a wedding without the legal bit
Dress will have to be an empire line I reckon so I'm not too stressed out by losing the baby bulge. Nothing too clingy. I reckon that would would well with the hippy idea anyway.

Scully $100 is an amazing price for a wedding dress. I love a bargain There is absolutely no need to spend thousands on a dress you are going to wear for one day (unless you're loaded of course )

Kate I'm glad the acupuncture went well. Shame about having to wait again but if you think that it'll help and you're not too upset about waiting then it's probably a good idea. You're much stronger than me, I'd be jumping back in the sack and ruin everything.
Thanks for those links btw, I'll check them out

Mollie about your shit day at work. People don't think do they.
I went to a dinner party on Saturday and sat infront of two older women. When I mentioned about being pregnant one of them just said "Yes, we noticed" No smiles or congrats or anything. She has 4 children. I explained about the difficulties I have conceiving and she said "Oh I thought it would take ages but fell pregnant immediately" - Well congratulations lady, what to you want? A sodding medal?
How are you doing anyway?
I agree about mentioning the "W" word. When I order the cake I might ask for a fruit cake covered in white icing with 3 tiers. "For a wedding? Oh no, it's not for a wedding!"

Teehee Excellent news about your scan date, not long now!!!! Have you got anything planned for your birthday? except the scan obv.
Did you have a lovely weekend in Shropshire?

Cricri your extension sounds like a barrel of laughs I bet you cant wait for it all to be done.

Scully I saw your pics on FB, Very impressed with the fish they caught
Picnic looks like it would have been fun

Sparkly I hope you're ok today?

Ei another day closer to testing!!!

I've just had my Tax calculation through. I feel sick. It's not really that much if it was spread throughout the year. Its £847. Unfortunately I don't earn enough per month to be able to put money away for tax. All my money goes toward the bills and mortgage. Anything extra goes on our very budgeted food shopping and playgroup for the kids.
Thing is, the inland rev owe me money from last year. I'm still waiting for that so they can bloody well wait for their money! They will have to get it in installments and in my time too!

They make me sick. Once I took out all my expenses I only earned just under 9 grand. I wouldn't mind if I had a bit of help from tax credits but they messed that up so I don't get any.
I'm so pissed off with it all. Self employment is shite.

Right, I've had my moan, now we're off to playgroup

ta ra ladies

hi ladies, a very quick 1 from me. Am posting from dp's phone. Am about 2 take more meds and am hopeless after them. Had a scan and the sac has gone. Still have some clots and bleeding quite a lot. Hosp have found me a bed now and not sure what will happen next. Have been told that i won't need d&c.

Aw Sparkly. Well I suppose it's good you won't have to go through the D&C.
I hope they're looking after you in hospital. You need a Nurse like Ei to take care of you I wish I could be there to give you a big cuddle. You have been so strong, I hope you're not bottling it up. If you need to let go then just let go. Lots of love xx

I bought Phoebe a harness so I can take her out in the garden and show her the main road. I took her outside yesterday but she was shaking like a leaf, bless her. I'm going to take her out again when I've had my lunch. I need to teach her how to go down our outside concrete steps. They're very steep and there are quite a lot of them. They must look like Everest to her.
To whoever has a cat/cats, what did you do when you 1st let it/them out?
I don't have a cat flap as the only way out is the front door (upstairs maisonette) and I really don't want a cat flap in the front door. So she will have to meiow when she wants to come in. DP said we should get a little bell she can use

Just catching up with everything that's been going on over the w/e. Seems as if everyone's had an up and down time of it.

Sparkly Really hope that everything goes as well as can be expected in hospital. It's a totally sh&tty experience to go thru. Am thinking of you. (((((((Hugs)))))).

Mollie Bloody hell, some people should have to take a test before they procreate to make sure they are going to be good parents. What a selfish little twerp that girl is. . Just wondering how you are bearing up with everything that's going on at the moment? Vent if you need to.

Fruity Went to an amazing wedding at Syon House on Fri. Have mentally stored loads of ideas to give to you if you need them! Sorry you're stresse dout about Inland Rev.

Ei Am sure I can feel twinges that are AF-like. But then my mind is playing bad tricks on me. Am trying to block everything out. Nothing I can do about it now. We've either hit the jackpot or it's back to the drawing board next month!

Scully You're not a b7tch. You're entitled to feel very pissed off at what life has dishe dout to you recently. It's good to let of steam every now and again. And it's hard to be happy all the time when what you want most in life is so bloody ellusive.

Cricri Am also in the middle of building project. We've got a sodding great big hole where back garden was. Still. Grrrrr. Only another 6 months and then it'll be finished. Hmmmmmmmm.

Emmsy Lovely to hear from you. Good to know you're still here. If a little frazzeled due to family commitments!

Kate hey, don't worry about the 10am start. Just get there when you can hon.

Am just wondering if it'd be easier to book a table somewhere for lunch? The Dog and Fox in the Village is v nice gastro pub. Would that be easier for everyone? No need to scramble out of bed and we'd be guaranteed a table. What do you all think?

Mollie had a great b'day. The little buggers tinkers finally got to sleep at 11ish and then were up again at 6.30ish. Yawn. Shattered on Sunday .

Sparkly I so hoped it wouldn't come to this... We'll all be here waiting for you as soon as you're back, and I know that I for one will be thinking of you in the mean time, as I'm sure will everyone else. It's just so shite isn't it?

Fruity I know what you mean about the tax bill... I couldn't sleep for worrying about mine last night...
Your wedding plans sound gorgeous BTW, and you're right, an empire line dress wpould go perfectly
IKWYM about how hard it is to wait on the ttc front, I'm just so scared of what might happen if I rush things. I know there are no guarantees no matter what I do, but I think I need to be able to feel like I have given it my best shot, for my own sanity
I cannot BELIEVE what that stupid woman said to you at dinner on Saturday . Makes me feel ashamed to be female! What on earth did she expect you to say??? I can't bear those people who tell you their partner "only has to look at them"... Maybe we should come up with some suitably cutting responses to use next time!

Mollie thanks for keeping us updated about Sparkly. I'm sure what she is going through must be bringing it all back to you horribly, so big hugs to you too

Ei how are you holding up on the wait to test? It's always so easy to tell people to be patient, and give it a few more days, but so impossible when you're the one doing the waiting, so I'll keep quiet!

TeeHee hope the long car journies were bearable. I remember that 'sick but hungry' feeling too. Bit like being hungover, only worse!

Cricri sounds like you're getting to the fun bit woth your building works! Did you pick out some nice stuff? I found there was almost too much choice, took me ages! But then i was chosing everything - bathrooms, kitchen, lighting, locations of electricity sockets, carpet, paint.... etc etc etc Fun but expensive!!

I can't believe it's less than a week til we all see each other!! Am really looking forward to meeting you all 'properly' - although I'm a bit nervous , which seems ridiculous given the fact that I tell you lot things I don't even tell DH! Or maybe that's why I'm nervous...

Hello to everyone else!