The WIMBEWAIF and WIMBEWAINF 2WW club, new and existing members welcome.

[Bucky2008]

Ahhh, look how nice and clean and new this thread is .

And there is a big ScaryHairy birthday cake for us all to share. I am not being good till after Thursday afterall...

MTW I can only second what Unituber has said - i am always so happy to see you and the other pregnant ladies. It is not upsetting, and i think it is important to remind us all that our babies can and will get here eventually! Until then, we will enjoy seeing all our gorgeous cyber nephews and nieces make their way into the world.

Unituber Yes you too can have a vest and i am sure that your belly is nothing compared to mine. I have put on a fair bit of weight over the past year or so - that is what ttc has done to me! I think it's because half the time i have thought "well, i might be pg, so there's no point in dieting" and the rest of the time i have been so fed-up and disheartned that i have consoled myself with copious amounts of food and aclohol!! For what it's worth, my BMI is also right on the upper limit of overweight (but i really do look it) and the consultant is not a bit concerned that it will affect IVF. My cycles are regular, and everything appears to be functioning well. So i wouldn't worry about it from that point of view.

Hope the rest of you are ok... are you all busy working

MOB I've been comfort-eating my way through ttc too. It's not good - am 6 kilos heavier than I was in Feb , and two of those have appeared since my surgery.

I have finally bitten the bullet and made a clinic appointment. It's not until the end of the month but at least it is done. They seemed pretty busy - I reckon lots of women are in a flap after watching 'The Sex Education Show' last night and so have decided to get their eggs frozen...

Well done Unituber. I'm sure it will help to talk through your concerns and see what help they can offer. Shame it's a bit of a wait, but i guess that on the other hand it may be a bit much if things happen too quickly at this stage. Yes - that was a bit scary last night wasn't it? I just caught bits of it, but i'm sure it has got a lot of women panicking.

Afternoon everyone,

been lots of action on here - which is great!

MOB day 2 of the pill already - so exciting! Going back on the pill would make me feel like a young slip of thing again (back in the days when I thought that one accident would definitely lead to a baby!).

RFN2 glad to hear that things are settling down - hope this new cycle is your month!

Bucky hello my dear. Am trying not to worry because of your post - hope this phase is good weird and not bad weird? Sending you positive vibes nonetheless. And not long now til NYC trip - am so at that.

UniT I'd say scrap the BMI scale for your own small self (I can guarantee that you are in fact a veritable pixie next to me!!). I think the BMI scale is a Good Thing, but it's not ideal since it's one size fits all. I want to lose a bit of weight, but mainly for myself (I have managed to put on about 5 pounds in the last month!). Maybe obsessing about food will take my mind of ttc . And well done you for making an app at the clinic!! I'm very proud of you taking such a good, positive step. Though I'm still confident that you'll have a natural BFP before too long . I found the Sex Education Show utterly compelling btw - to have that on prime time! women talking honestly about the rollercoaster of ttc! Sinitta is my new favourite celeb face of ttc! - and would urge all the lovely ladies on here to check it out if they missed it (see this link). Are you going to try this month? Or just not not try (iyswim)?

O7MTW - getting so close now! I think October's a great time to have a baby. Do keep us up to date as to how you're doing - first timers like me love to hear how pregnancies are going

Same goes for Mibbes Jollybear Hatty Abbymeg - hope you're all keeping well and that you continue to pop in and visit us on this thread. I love to hear from the graduates - since that's what we'll all be one day!. December's going to be a busy month for you ladies - very exciting!

Hi to PnM (you're getting your cast off tomorrow I think - if so, then hope everything's all healed and you can dance around to your heart's content!) and Ei and anyone else I've missed off. Hope everyone's well.

9dpo for me and AF due on Saturday. We're going to be babysitting my two nieces - 1 and 3 (nearly 4) - for the whole weekend so I reckon that I'll be too busy to get too down in the dumps if AF does show up. I'm taking the older niece to ballet on Saturday morning and then there's a joint 4th birthday party for 3 of her nursery class mates in the afternoon - to be honest, that's more of a social life than we often have!! If AF does show then I'll be listening to that hypno CD every night (instead of just the three listens I managed this month ) and doing everything I can for next month.

Caitni this month my DH does not want to try. And I sort of feel that waiting until my stitches have dissolved would be a good start! I thought I was going to ovulate but my egg is awol. If it takes another couple of weeks to come my stitches will be gone and all bets are off!

It's great that you'll be so busy at the weekend. Wouldn't it be fab if the whole ttc thing sliped your mind and then in a week or two you though "oooh. I'm late". How I wish I was a women to whom that sort of thing could happen...

UniT lol at suddenly thinking "woah I'm a week late!". I reckon that would only happen to me now if I was in a coma! I think you're wise to wait til the stitches dissolve, though who knows if that egg bides its time

Guys, I'm sorry for my silence, life has been hectic...!

Mob - day 2 on the pill! Yay on your start to your ivf journey!! I'm genuinely excited for you Without sounding mushy, I'm also excited to be going on this journey with you in a cyber buddy type way!

Uni I feel bad that I haven't been around to help out with your worries but everyone else seems to have wise words for you and it also sounds like your Dh has made a decision for you . Deffo giving enough time for your stitches to dissolve is prob a Good Thing!! Hopefully by then your egg will have put in an appearance! Also, stop worrying about your extra poundage young lady!! I bet I can out-pound you all the amount I've put on since I broke my foot (shhh - nearly a stone in 1 month but I'm in denial and will be purchasing a larger size of jeans instead of giving up the chocolate!)

It sounds like you have a manic weekend ahead of you Caitni! Good luck with your babysitting duties and ditto Uni in being able to forget about af arrival - if only [sigh]. Thank you for remembering about my plaster - it does indeed come off tomorrow (yay!!) and I can't wait! As Ei said, am milking it for all its worth tonight cos Dh will prob develop a mystery illness in the next week!

You ok Bucky? Good weird or bad weird? Hoping its the former?

Check out you and your technical talk Ei Never knew that about oestrogen (I can't even spell it!) - mayb I should reconsider my chocolate eating habits! Well done you though, very admirable determination, I'd like to echo mtw re your positive attitude, its great to see and very inspiring.

Speaking of which, or should I say whom, mtw plse don't ever think you shouldn't post, its lovely to hear from you and hear how you are - its a beautiful reminder that we WE will all get there in the end. Ps you're having a baby THIS MONTH - wow!!!

Judith are you ok at the moment? Has dh booked any accupuncture yet?!

JB how was your holiday?? My Dh hasn't had his sperm test yet but it is on friday so will see how long it takes to get the results back (given that it took 10wks for an appt I wont hold my breath!). Your jollycub is due on my birthday!! Yay for Boxing Day babies!! How is your sickness now?

How are you Mibbes? Hope you are doing ok (and Hatty and Abby* if you're lurking!)

I've got a lot of WIMBEWAIFE love tonight, are you all feeling it too??

Just to repeat myself - my plaster is coming off tomorrow!! Woohoo!!

I have also been offered a new job (woohoo again!) but it would mean going self employed which would be difficult wrt to maternity pay (boo). But given my ftc so far, I'm not so sure thats an issue anymore! I wouldn't be any better off financially, I would just have a far more interesting job! Anyone know much about being self employed? I'm in such a quandary!! What to do what to do what to do!

hi ladies
just a quickie to say...
PnM yay for you having your plaster off!!
MOB 2 days down 19 to go is it?? im so excited for you!!!
MTW lovely to see you i cant believe how time flies you are about to have a baby im so excited
a big hello to everyone else hanging around
xx ei xx

Hey have only scanned, but am dropping in to say hi.

In answer to the question, it is more of a 'weird' weird phase. My Bucky night out, made me start questioning everything. The ttc rollercoaster of emotions has taken its toll recently and has been affecting me in a lot of ways. I feel so detached from the possibility I may ever have a baby. After years of going from month to month living for a BFP, when I let myself totally relax and kind of give up, I felt such a sense of relief it scared me. I started to wonder if maybe I was happy as I am. I was angry that BDing was just that, BDing and wasn't about anything else anymore (sorry if tmi) and got it in my head that the only way it wouldn't be was if I only did it when I wasn't ov. At the same time though I still ache for a baby. See... weird. It hurts my heart that I may never smell that baby smell as my dc snuggles up against me or see a little mini DP smile my way. So, as I am so confused, I have kind of taken a step back this month. I know...I am a weirdo .

Anyway, sorry this is all about me. UniT sorry I have not been around to give you more higs.

And everyone else, I hope you are all doing OK and that our thread jinx will be over soon and we will see a few BFPs. I am around, but until I get my head straight I will probably be quite quiet, just dropping in now and again.

Bucky xx

oh Bucky big big {{{higs}}} you are allowed to feel wierd and it is totally understandable.
I hope having time out from TTC gives you what you need/want to get your head around your future options (there are still options if you are desperate to hold that baby) I don't know what else to say except more {{{higs}}} to you and have a lovely big glass of something naughty

PnM How does it feel to have the plaster off?

Good evening to everyone else hope you are all doing well.

(((Higs))) to you Bucky. I can well understand you re-evaluating things. We all get so caught up in ttc it makes sense to do that sometimes. I hope you work out how you feel soon.

Picknmix - how's the foot? I know how vile it is getting out of plaster - all that dead skin (yuech) so I hope it is all ok.

I have still not ovulated but my body is acting like it is thinking about it. Oh well, if it just holds off for a couple of weeks then I can get on with ttc again!

BUCKY I know that I havent been around on here long and that you dont "know" me but just wanted to give you ((higs)), Perhaps it might do you good to have taken a step back this month, I hope you work out what it is that you want to do next x

I feel for all of you that have been ttc for so long, I know that this is only cycle 2 for me and that I already have a DS but I know how heartbreaking ftc is because I am adopted. I am very close to my Mum and know how much heartache they went through to have children (7 years of ttc, 1 miscarriage at 10 weeks and 2 eptopics-the 2nd of which nearly killed her)
They finally gave up and adopted me and my Brother but my Mum has now developed osteoporosis and had to have a hysterectomy at 36 as her womb was rotting inside her (sorry if tmi)
They are totally in love with DS and see him as such a gift, when I was pregnant I saw the joy but also the pain in Mums eyes so I shared my pregnancy with her as much as I could and will hopefully do the same next time.

I know that I am the newbie on here but I would love to see you all get those desperately wanted BFPs x

On a lighter note it is cd5 for me and AF has finished so its time for the BDing to begin

Morning all,

Leg is feeling much better now it has been freed, thank you!! Tis a pretty disgusting sight and will take a while before I can walk without crutches though!

Bucky I totally understand what you mean and fair play to you that you have taken a step back. It sounds like you need it. How does your DP feel about it all? Big higs to you for your weird stage.

RFN2 your poor mum - sounds like she really went through it but obviously you are a very caring wonderful family and when you get your bfp you will be able to share with her again. Let the bding commence!!

I guess your egg is waiting for your body to catch up Uni

DH went for his SA this morning. He's been told it will take 10-14 days for the results to come back to the surgery . It so blatently doesn't take 10-14 days as the man who told him this said the tests would take place in the next hour, it just takes that long for the results to make their way back to the GPs. I've got a real downer on the NHS at the moment (didn't help that I had a 3 hour wait for my fracture appt yesterday!).... Ahhh well, things will happen when they happen I guess.

xx

Good evening everyone

Caitni Hope you are having lots of fun babysitting! I bet you will be absolutely exhausted at the end of it. Fingers firmly crossed for you that AF stays away...

PnM Thank you for what you said a couple of posts ago - not mushy at all, but very touching. Where would i be without you all. HELLO LEG I bet it's lovely to have the plaster off. Take it easy though, while it strengthens again. Sounds like you have a difficult decision to make about your job. When do you have to decide by? It's so easy to put everything on hold whilst ttc - but if this is a really good opportunity for you you have to consider it. And lets face it, if you are happy and fulfilled then it can only be a good thing all round. Well done to MrPnM for going to give his sample. It is ridiculous how long it takes to get the results (it took us ages first time)so i will be willing away the next coule of weeks for you!

Unituber it does sound like that egg is waiting until your body is healed

RFN2 that was heartbreaking to read about your mum. She has clearly been through such a lot. How lovely that your DS can bring the whole family such pleasure, and heal some of the pain. Here's hoping you get a BFP very soon, that can bring you all even more joy. Speaking of which - go pounce on your DH if you haven't already done so

Bucky that you for telling us about how you have been feeling. So much of what you said rang true for me as well, i hope you know that you are not alone in these "weird" feelings. I think it is normal to feel detatched from the thought of a baby after months / years of trying. The longer you try i think the more remote the possibility seems. Even though i have 2 older DC, i still find it impossible now to think of myself with a newborn, and sometimes feel almost ambivilent (sp?) about it, whilst at the same time, desperately wanting it. We have also found that ttc has had a huge impact on our physical relationship, and TBH it has been more or less non-existent for a few weeks. However, now we are starting the ivf, and we do not have to do it for that purpose any more, things are getting back on track, and it's becoming FUN again . What i'm trying to say, in a roundabout way, is i really hear where you are coming from, and i think your feelings are rather more normal than you may imagine. Do look after yourself - it would be lovely if you can pop in and let us know how you are doing, but i do understand why you may need a bit of distance. XX

Meant to also say... hello to EI & JG - hope you are both ok, and hello to the pregnant ladies!!!

hi ladies
just a quickie to say i hope everyone is having a nice relaxing sunday xx il catch up later on as im on the way out to pick DD up from my mums house
xx ei xx

Hi Ladies

Just a quickie from me today to say I hope you all had a lovely weekend.

RFN your poor mother going through all of that. Even if it is a bit painful I'm sure it must be so lovely for your mother to see you pregnant and having children. When my sister is pregnant I always think it's the next best thing to me being up the duff!

Mob how is the pill? It's so counter-intuitive going on contraception, don't you think?

PnM I can't believe that SA results take so long. WTF? At the clinic we're going to apparently they do the test immediately before the appointment and give the results in the appointment. But then I suppose that they are all in the same building. But where on earth is the lab that your DH's test goes to? Adelaide or somethere?!

Judith that was you I saw at Mr Needles wasn't it? (Forgive me, I'm a bit blurry in the mornings...)

Bucky am thinking of you even if you are taking time off.

I have done a VERY STUPID THING. We were not entirely careful and so now I am worried about having to have more surgery when instead I should be going to meetings overseas next month that have been booked for ages. Must stop fretting, if I do get pregnant (not much hope of that since I think I will ovulate on my bad side) this one will surely be fine...

UNI I am sure that everything will be fine, you never know this might be a very happy "accident" for you

Well its cd 8 so nothing to report,I have been being naughty food wise these last couple of weeks and have managed to gain quite a few lbs so as of this morning I am back on my diet to lose it! I have also started going to the gym which should help aswell

The BDing has begun for the month and I am aiming for every other day I usually ov around day 14 so will hopefully be the same this month.
Why does it seem such a long month when ttc and when your not ttc af seems to be here all the time lol!!

unituber It's not a stupid thing you've done, it's a natural thing! (albeit a bit quick off the mark ) Don't forget - the dodgy tube has gone now - if you get pregnant then great, there's no reason there should be a problem. If not, then you have the next cycle to look forward to, when you can "officially" get going again. Yes - it is very peculiar using contraception!! (although for another purpose). It's actually making me quite headachy and tetchy, but it's all worth it in the long run.

RFN2 Yay! Not long till you ov! Look out for that EWCM.

EI Did you have a nice relaxing weekend?

Bucky How are you this week?

JG I am getting worried about you . Hope you are ok. Has AF shown up? (Hope not - of course - still willing you to get pg before your treatment starts)

caitni How was your weekend? Are you worn out?? Any news on AF from you???? (Sorry to ask, it's just i have a real feeling that October is going to bring good news to this thread - so someone needs to prove me right!!)

PnM How's that poor foot? i hope you are getting more mobile as each day goes by.

Evening everyone

UniT try not to stress too much, especially as the bad tube is gone so your risk of another EP is much lower - the egg can drift across to your good tube. I agree with MOB, if you get a BFP then it's great and if you don't it's like warming up for trying properly next month! You've reminded me I must make an app to go and see Mr Needles again...it's been ages since I went

MOB sorry to hear the pill is making you feel a bit tetchy. But it will be worth it in the long run! When's your next app? I'm still so excited that you've started treatment. My feeling is that you may be the next one to give us some good news on this thread!!

Bucky I'm sorry to hear it's a weird phase, but take as long as you need to get your head round things. We're here whenever you want to drop in, though hope you don't lurk too much as I'll miss your posts, and hearing about your dogs (mis)adventures with footwear and the like (I need all the vicarious dog stories I can get until I get a dog of my own!)

PnM so glad to hear the cast is off - yay!! Though was thinking "WTF??" about your DH's tww for results. I'd suggest hassling the GPs a bit, I bet that would speed them up a bit And congrats on the new job! Even if you don't take it (have you made a decision?), the ego boost of being offered it must be great!

RFN2 thanks for sharing your mum's story, I find it quite inspirational despite the heartache she and your dad must have suffered through. And I'm glad that your DS brings such joy. Here's to you getting a BFP soon so that your parents can share in some more happy news - let the BD-fest begin!!

07MTW hope you're spoiling yourself and getting ready for the arrival of your baby

JG hope you're doing well and not working too hard!

Ei hope you had a lovely weekend xx

Hi to all our preggo ladies too

Well AF got me - CD2 for me. I wasn't too upset - as had a bit of spotting, which is a definite AF on her way sign for me. I hate the spotting, but at least it means I can get all my upset out of the way before AF arrives properly. And my temps were nice and steady this month, I think the vits have been helping.

And I had a fantastic weekend with my two nieces, although am quite knackered still. But I'm not complaining, as I actually loved getting up in the night when the 18 month old was crying (you can tell I don't have to do that often ). But to comfort a crying baby, to have them fall asleep in my arms, sure that's the stuff I day dream about . Me and DH had great fun play acting at being parents - baking cookies yesterday afternoon, splashing through puddles, finger painting. My DH is great with kids, and my nieces love him. Twas also nice to give my sister and her DH a longed for weekend away too. They don't know we're ttc, but I reckon they suspect. Thank god they don't mention anything though, as I actually like not having the pressure around them...

anyway, enough rambling from me! Higs and love to everyone
xxx

Caitni I'm so glad to hear you had such a lovely wkend with your nieces. It brought a tear to my eye when you said about comforting your niece in the middle of the night and how long you yearn for your own DC. I do hope you get your BFP soon it sounds like you and DH would make fantastic parents.

I had my haircut last Thurs, Reflexology on Sat and a pedicure yesterday so I'm sufficiently pampered and ready to go into hospital I keep getting period type aches at night but nothing by morning although I think I had a show this morning so could happen soon and you will become virtual Aunties again

It's very quiet on this thread at the moment so I'm sending vibes and hoping you are all ok.

Hello everyone,

JG I hope you are OK and just madly busy with work or on holiday again!

Bucky It isn't the same on here without you either. I hope things are good with you and those hounds of yours.

Caitni Your post about your neices is really touching - it got me all sniffly. Steady temps is a good sign. I got my BFP after temping so I am a big fan - hope you get yours too

P&M Glad to hear your leg is now free! I cannot believe the delays that you are having to face just to get a simple SA. It really is bonkers.

readyforno2 Good luck this month! Your mum sounds amazing to have been through all that.

Uni Hope you are still healing nicely and that you get a "surprise" BFP this month.

MTW I'm very excited for you! Sounds like you are all prepared . Do keep us updated on how things are going.

Sorry and hello to anyone I've forgotten!

hi ladies
caitni sorry AF got you but im glad to see how upbeat you are about it tonnes of luck for this cycle
MTW i cant believe you are just about ready to have your baby!! is this your first??(sorry i cant remember if you have any kids already) im getting rather excited for you
bucky i hope you are still lurking and are feeling ok and not so confused about things xx
MOB i hope things are going well for you and not too much longer to wait til you start the next stage and take the next step towards you baby
JB nice to see you hows things with the jollycub??
hi to everyone else lurking or otherwise
not much happening here yet cd19 i think and doing opks daily but as yet no bfp opk just faint lines so hopefully if we keep bding and i keep pos's il get a bfp in the good way aswell finger crossed
xx ei xx

Hey I am still here. Just v. boring at the moment. I am v. excited at the moment, 2.5 weeks till my NYC trip, my first ever horse riding lesson next week AND (its a secret don't tell) I am getting another tattoo...I have one although it is not visible to the general public and I have a consultation to get a bit added on which I can't wait for. Tattoos are everyone's cup of tea, but there are some beautiful designs around these days. Lord knows what people must think I look like, all dogs, fake nails and tattoos but I feel a renewed enthusiasm for life at the moment and I am very happy. I really let myself get dragged down by all the BFNs and I am starting to see the brighter side of things again.

MOB How long have you been taking the pills now? A couple of weeks yet?

Headaches and tetchiness doesnt sound fab, but I feel really positive for you. I really hope you get that BFP at the end of the cycle.

Caitni Sorry about TEW. You are just around the corner from me, we should have lunch sometime. I just can't figure out how to contact you at the moment....I will maybe make up a hotmail address...

JB Thank you for missing me that is very sweet . Not long now. We were supposed to meet our cyber nephew digibean on Friday but DG still getting the hang of her routine so it will be in a couple of weeks now, but I can't wait to be an aunty again .

Ei finger crossed for you this month again. Now that you know what to do it can all turn out fine.

UniT Are you all healed up now? How are you feeling physically...good to go?

Much love to PicknMix, 07MTW, JG, RFN2 and everyone else (eelcatcher where are you?).

JG is really busy and they are monitoring the internet usage at her work and she has no connection at home last time I heard which could be why she is AWOL. Not to forget her jetset lifestyle

Laters ladies. Keep good. x

God, a million typos...I meant tattoos are not everyone's cup of tea...

And I am boring at the moment in terms of cycle but excited at the moment in terms of life....