The WIMBEWAIF and WIMBEWAINF 2WW club, new and existing members welcome.

[Bucky2008]

Ahhh, look how nice and clean and new this thread is .

And there is a big ScaryHairy birthday cake for us all to share. I am not being good till after Thursday afterall...

Also meant to post this link to an Observer article as it's about IVF and accupuncture. Interesting for those needlers amongst us!

Hi all

Judith I remember reading something about that too, so I went and did some (not so)sneaky at-work Googling. Some people working in fertility are quoted as saying that IVF seems to work better in the lighter months - women need less drugs for the stimulation bit. They have not identified whether this is because of more daylight or because of the warmth, but I reckon you can wrap up warm, keep the heating on and buy one of those SAD lamps and it will help! The problem with the sort of statements I've seen is that they don't identify the affected group. So it might be the case that stim is harder in a sub fertile woman, but we know that you are pristine on the inside so maybe in women like you it makes no difference at all. That's how I would see it anyway. I know your treatment is going to work, so there.

Caitni - the last few weeks have really flown, I can't believe you're on your 2WW again already. Your CD sounds less annoying than mine. Which did you get? I am going to buy one for healing since one of my scabs looks about a week behind the others and I keep getting twinges where my tube should be! More money wasted, but maybe it will help.

Nice to see you again Picknmix. I'm rather enjoying that thread for the bitter and twisted. Today I told someone (moaning that she's tired in her second trimester) that if she would like to swap with me I'm up for it. Needless to say the moaning has stopped!

Higs to the rest of you, Ei (less dazed now, I hope), Bucky (are you still getting the needles? I'm going back this week. sigh.), MOB (our guinea pig), Ready (has your period shown up yet?) and lurkers. See you later.

Hi UniT I got this CD - she's got a Welsh accent and I've always had a fondness for the Welsh . I reckon the ol' hypnotherapy CDs are not money wasted - they're so cheap in the grand scheme of things, and do seem to help. You've been through so much, so I think you're helping your body & mind to get past the upheavals. Time's not speeded up btw, I just have a super short cycle of 23 days.

Ok, second time lucky......

Hello all!

Judith, please don't panic over what ZW has written, I'm sure she has her reasons but likewise I reckon your consultant is top notch and has far more in-depth knowledge compared to ZW. I do remember reading somewhere about needing to keep your womb area warm whilst ttc (I think this was on an accupuncture fertility website) so do as Uni suggests and keep wrapped up nice and warm. Maybe invest in a few of those period pads you stick on your skin and wear under your clothes (these are my life saver during my af!)?!

Uni - am loving the bitter and twisted thread as well. Can fully understand why you're not hanging around the conception boards at the mo. Tis nice to 'see' you here though

Bucky Bucky where for art thou Bucky?! You would have laughed at me the other day - my mum insisted on hiring me a shop mobility vehicle whilst visiting Jersey Zoo - reminded me of your drunken pursuits the other night - felt really old, it even had a yellow flag flying so felt like I was in a bumper car!!!

Can't believe you're on the 2ww already Caitni . Did you enjoy a sunny weekend in Brighton? Did you actually go to that food festival at Stansted House the other week? My mum went and said it was a bit pitiful - not many stalls and lots of rain!!

Any sign yet ready? Fingers crossed for you but do understand what you mean when you say you wish it would just hurry up and arrive!

Ei I agree with everyone else that its fantastic you have had such a quick diagnosis and that it is, not necessarily easily, but treatable. Hope you've got over the shock now - always difficult to get your head around something like that I imagine. Big higs to you.

How is your week going Mob? Have you tried the hypno cd yet? How many days until its all systems go now??

I did have a fab time in Jersey, thank you to everyone for asking . The wedding was the only downer!!! Well, thats not strictly true, the wedding was fab, the smug preggos were not.

Its getting to the 'action' bit of my cycle and I just can't muster up the enthusiasm. Have been looking into adoption actually but apparently you can't be under any treatment for fertility when you start adoption proceedings as you have to be completely NOT ttc. Will get DH's SA out the way and then see where we are I guess.

Have an appt to get my plaster taken off next thursday - YAY!!!! Can't wait, seriously lost my sense of humour with hopping now. Was vaguely exciting being whisked around the airport in a wheelchair though

PHEW! Very much writing, well done if you've read this far....

Probably left someone out, apologies if I have

Hey guys, my apologies too for being thin on the ground. It seems old Bucky has possessed new and virtuous Bucky . I am trying to calm down a bit but I went to Leeds again today and just got back a short time ago (thanks for remembering my pain Caitni). I tell you once you fall off the party wagon its difficult to get back on especially after two and a half years of no luck. Anyway, I have put the wine back in the cupboard today is CD6 so action stations soon.

Ei hope you are getting your head around your diagnosis .
PnM You should have called me I could have given you some hot tips for cornering that baby likes it's on rails.
JG They work you too hard and Zita sucks just blurting stuff like that out. Some people don't have a choice and all that negativity isn't going to help them. .
UniT I am going to check out the twisted thread sounds interesting. Glad you are back at work and the crust has gone.
Caitni Glad you sound a lot more upbeat. Baby dust for you this month.
RFN2 Hope TEW stays away and you get your BFP.
MOB How are you feeling, it's getting closer...wooohoo...
07MTW Not long now, have you got your feet up and lots of chocolate cake at the ready?

Big higs to anyone I forgot. I'm gonna go to bed now. What a rock and roll life I really lead..NOT.

Hi all x
Well TEW is definately trying to play mind games with me! She still hasnt shown up and its cd32
I did another test yesterday morning and it was BFN so I am not really sure what is going on
The last 2 months I have not really had a proper af just spotting which I put down to my weight loss but now I am starting to get a bit concerned and think maybe a trip to the docs is in order

Hope everyone else is ok x

Hi ladies,

JG I think UniT and PnM have given some good advice. Zita West says that the warmth thing is important - comes from accupuncture I think (in fact, was it you who mentioned that Mr Needles gives you some sort of heating thing for your abdomen during accupuncture??).

PnM Oh I was giggling at the idea of taking one of those carts around the Zoo - your good ol' mum taking care of you like that . We never made it to that Stansted House food festival that time - the rain was just too comedy heavy! Glad to hear we didn't miss much . And only a week to go til you get the plaster off - woo hoo!!

Readyfornum2 god, I hate when our bodies play these mind games with us! While I'm still hopeful it means that there's a BFP waiting for you [hopeful emoticon], perhaps it could just be your body settling back into a routine after having a baby and losing weight. Either way, a trip to the doctor's may be a good idea xxx

Bucky hope you're not too tired from all this schlepping to Leeds and back! And don't feel so bad about letting your hair down a bit - it's important to stay as relaxed as possible, so if that means the odd bit of vino now and again then so be it. Having said that, I'm now on week 1 of a 4 month alchohol-free & caffeine-free & vitamin-y kick recommended in Marilyn Glenville's book Natural Solutions to Infertility. I'm kind of dreading the lack of alchol . I didn't go mad last Friday (it was my trial run ) but I've got a party for one of my best friend's 30th this Sat and it's going to be a challenge (to say the least!). My DH is convinced I'll crack and have a G&T or 5 but I'm determined to give it ago, despite the fact excessive drinking is a large part of the social life of most of my friends. Stupidly, I'm worried what people will think - some know we're ttc and some don't. I also haven't told any of them about the early MC, which has prompted this whole health drive, and don't really want to get into it on a night when we should all just be having a laugh...but yet am convinced the ones who know will be looking at each other knowingly (along the lines of "ooh caitni's not drinking, we know what that means wink wink) and the idea of them thinking that makes me feel so bad. Gah! Am sure it'll be fine...

Waves to Ei UniT MOB 07MTW and anyone I may have missed xx

caitni xx

Morning ladies

An apology from me as well for a couple of days absence - damn work getting in the way!!

Unituber Can completely understand you not wanting to be on the ttc threads too much - but don't ever stay away too long - we miss you!!! Sometimes it can all be a bit too much though can't it, especially when you happen on one of those "we've been trying for 3 months and i'm so depressed it's taking this long" threads (or even worse, a "we used a condom, pill and cap but we're so fertile we're pregnant" threads) Hey - perhaps i need to pop over to the bitter & twisted thread as well

JG I'm really concerned about that ivf in winter thing now - my egg collection / tranfer is likely to be in the first week of November Perhaps we'll both just have to prove the silly woman wrong.

Caitni fingers crossed for you on this 2ww. Also for the not drinking this weekend. It's something i always find hard too - but you will feel so good when you wake up on Sunday morning knowing you didn't touch a drop!

PnM I love Jersey zoo - we were there in the spring. I bought Gerald Durrell's autobiography there, but haven't read it yet. Did you visit any of the castles? (Perhaps not with your mobility problems...) Bet you can't wait for the plaster to come off! Will you need any physio? Thinking about adoption is a big step. (But an exciting one) As you say, it may be an easier decision once the SA is done. Waiting times for SS assessments seem horrendous though - DH is planning to adopt my 2 DC, so he is their parent and not step parent, and we have been waiting over 6 months to hear about an assessment. My hypno CD is good, thanks, although the woman's voice is annoying in that "i'm trying so hard to have a relaxing, hypnotic voice" kind of way. She tells me to imagine my ovaries full of light, and a luscious uterine lining . it's very relaxing though.

Bucky I think it is a good thing that "old bucky" resurfaced!!! It's so important to relax and have fun. Have you got a riotous weekend planned ??!

RFN2 Any news yet? It all sound very frustrating. If your periods have changed from how they normally are, then a trip to the doc sounds like a good plan. All that weight loss (which is fantastic BTW!) may well have caused a few hormonal imbalances. I read more and more about weight & hormones being linked, so it may be that your body needs a bit of time to adjust. Have you thought about something like reflexology or acupuncture. I have reflexology, which really helped get my cycle back to normal after coming off the pill, and several ladies here lust after visit an acupuncturist

EI how are you? I'm concerned as you haven't been about for a few days. Hope you are ok and coming to terms with the news earlier this week.

Well I am just awaiting my period so i can start the ivf! I've got awful PMT, so it can't be far off. I've said some awful things to DH this week, including telling him that i only want to go through one cycle of IVF, as i don't want to to dominate my life for months on end. He is devastated, as he wants to give it 3 goes, so we stand more of a chance of it working. I don't think i meant it really, but already IVF is dominating any work arrangements or social plans, and we haven't even started yet. We are going to have a good chat later and clear the air.

Oh my, MOB I had no idea the IVF was so soon. How flipping exciting. Hopefully this time next year we will all be cyber aunties to a little chick (or 2. Are they going to put 2 embryos back?).

Yes, come and at least read the bitter and twisted thread (although you will soon be spending time on the AN threads I hope). It is quite theraputic, I think. I do hate those threads about "tee hee aren't we fertile" but most of all the ones I really hate are the "how do we conceive a girl/boy" ones. FGS just be happy with what fate gives you, you fools!

Am workign already (grr) so must get back to it. Take care and hi everyone else.

Hi all ,
Well still no af and another bfn this morning.

I have accepted the fact that I am definately not pregnant im just concerned about what my body is upto!
I have made an appointment with the doc but its not until the 15th october

From what I have read on the internet it could take a few months for my periods to settle down now I have lost weight! Its typical really I only lost the weight so that I could have a healthier pregnancy this time and instead I have managed to screw my body up

I really wish I hadnt bothered!
I doubt I will be around now because there is no point trying to concieve at the moment.

Good luck to everyone and I hope you all get those BFPs soon x x

MOB - yes, the IVF thing in the winter isn't ideal.I would be interested in statistics asto why it isn't ideal and whether that is bourne out. All IVF clinics seem to shut down for Dec, so it was either Oct/Nov or Jan/Feb or putting it off until April/May, which isn't an option on the NHS or worth waiting six months for to go private,so we are where we are. I'll just have to eat a lot of soup, cassaroles and other warming food, wrap up warm and keep the heating set on "tropical" 24 hours a day much to DH's annoyance

We got read the info pack from the Hammersmith hospital today together- they advocate accupuncture to men in their kit so DH is "thinking about it". I think I can persuade him that he wants to do it by waving medical literature at him .

damn, I just wrote out a big long post and lost it . Hello to everyone who didn't make it into my post due to DH's rubbish computer!!

will pop in later and post again (don"t have time now)

hi ladies
sorry i havent been around at all this week it been a bit hectic with work and i have done quite a bit of overtime as we are a bit skint at the mo aswell
i have decided that it is a good thing that i have a 'diagnosis' as it gives me an explaination for my troubles i suppose and now i know about it i can do something about it my first mission is weightloss which is going well (11lbs up to now and i only have another million to go- yes thats right ladies i am a millionaire when it comes to poundage) and i have started OPKs aswell as temping so its all gone quite technical TTCing around here i have decided that it is totally necessary to try not to obsess and not get upset if it doesnt happen for us yet as my consultant helpfully pointed out that excess weight holds oestrogen and convinces your body that you dont need to ovulate and therefore hinders ttc!! i already knew his but it was a bit of a shock to the mind when it is pointed out delicately by a very nice consultant! i thought the outfit i had on that day was quite flattering but maybe not ahh well enough about me
MOB its so amazing that you are on the verge of making a medical miracle in your womb i am a huge supporter of IVF and think it is such an amazing process!! im so excited for you
judith ignore that stupid zita west!! if her reckonings are right there would be no babies born in july/august/september/october!! in this country! you WILL have your fabulous new year BFP!! and you will have a beautiful baby by this time next year!! i can feel it in my bones!! (and you know im psychic!!)
ready i hope you get your answer soon
caitni good on you taking control of your body i am rather hopeful for you this cycle
UT hope you are doing well and youre not wearin g yourself out working too much
PnM im glad you have finally got your date to get your plaster off make the most of the next week and get your DH to pamper you silly as mark my words that as soon as your plaster is off your DH will get a mysterious man-illness and will need pampering
hi to anyone else i may have missed or who is lurking
xx ei xx

Hi everyone

RFN2 Any sign of your period or a BFP? I'm sorry to hear you sounding down and frustrated. You have done so well in losing all that weight, and it's bound to be better for you long term. I do hope you decide to continue to hang around with us - we are all finding ttc difficult in one way or another, so don't feel you have to go. You don't even have to talk about anything ttc-related. All the best to you whatever you decide. XX

Unituber Just to continue with the "threads we hate..." the one i saw recently which i had to force myself not to put a rude post on was the "what is the best month to have a baby" one - obviously for people who are so fertile they can plan it exactly I wanted to post that the best month would be the 9th one after you conceive

JG Have you waded through the pack from the hospital yet? Has DH booked his acupuncture More importantly - have you actually been at home two weekends in a row

EI lovely to see you sounding like your normal bouncy self again . You are doing so well with your weightloss - are you following any type of plan or just cutting back? Good luck with the OPKs etc. I can't wait for you to get a BFP again so you can get started on the treatment! And i guess this may be a REALLY good excuse for testing as early as possible - after all, i guess the sooner you know the better?

Hope everyone else is well and had good weekends.

Great excitement here - i am CD1! I have never been so pleased to see my period arrive (well aside from one time when i was rather young and rather foolish ) I start on the pill tomorrow, for just over 2 weeks. i can't believe that we are officially beginning our IVF cycle. I had a complete emotional meltdown last night, as i just felt so overwhelmed about it all (fuelled probably by the large amount of wine consumed to make up for the fact that i am going to try and drink as little as possible unitl the end of the whole cycle) I feel much calmer and positive today, though, so i'm sure a good cry did me good. I think in a bizarre way i needed to "grieve" for the fact that we will never conceive naturally. From now on, though, we move on from that and IVF here we come

Hi ladies,

sorry for not being around for a bit - we had a hectic weekend.

MOB oh lordy - I am so excited to read that you're officially starting your IVF cycle!!! Hearing about your excitement has really lifted my day!! Having said that, I am also so glad that you had a good cry and gave yourself (and your DH) some space to acknowledge this massive step. It's going to be a hugely emotional time. But I echo Ei - I'm a massive fan of IVF and you'll be getting your longed for BFP before you know it!!

Ei sorry to hear your're rushed off your feet but am glad to hear you sounding so positive. I am at your weight loss - I really need to lose weight and am just ignoring it at the moment . Hearing about it storing oestregen may give me the shove I need though, as I didn't know that...

RFN2 I hope you're feeling better. Please do stick around if you'd like to as the ladies on here are a lovely bunch.

JG hope you've managed to get through the bumf from the hospital. Interesting that they recommend accupuncture for Mr JG as well. And lots of warming food and keeping the heating on tropical sounds like a proper plan for maximising New Year success

UniT I saw your other thread - I really feel for you, with all this conflicting advice about when to ttc. All I know is that after my experience last month with the CP (god, I hate that expression but hate early MC even more!), I wanted to redouble my efforts to get a sticky bean. The biological urge is just so strong...

Hi to PnM Bucky 07MTW (how are you doing? Hope you're pampering yourself in these last few weeks!) and everyone else I may have missed.

I'm now 7 dpo and officially entering the mad part of the tww, where every twinge is loaded with potential significance and I'm regularly staring at my FF chart as though it's an oracle to the future! I can't help but get my hopes up - we really did BD at the best times we could - but am trying hard to stay sensible. Typcially, after all my nerves about not drinking on Sat night, it was actually totally fine. I had two tonics and people honestly thought I was necking the G&Ts at a great rate (tipsy friends are easy to fool ). DH, bless him, decided he should drive us up so that he had the excuse of not drinking, with his sparkling waters craftily deflecting attention from my sobriety...must say I'm liking this health kick. Unfortunately, I'm eating to beat the band to make up for the lack of caffeine and alchol so I've only lost about 2 pounds!

mob Glad to here that you are starting your IVF cycle- wont be long till you get that BFP now
ei Well done on the weightloss so far, just think when you get that all important BFP you will be a very yummy mummy

catni Hope this is your month, and fair play for the health kick

Hello to everyone else too x

Well AF has finally turned up 8 days late!! I am so relieved to see her to be honest and I am hoping that things will get back to normal now so that we can get on with this madd ttc business!!

MOB I am sooooo excited that you're getting your IVF soon. But listen, you have to tell us all the gory details so that those of us who are or might go down that route have an idea of what's coming!

Ei I am really impressed with your weightloss. I am at the top end of what is healthy for someone my height and should really lose some weight. The problem is that recent events have led very much to comfort eating!

Where's that big long post Judith? Are you ok?

Caitni good for you sticking to the tonic water. I have my fingers crossed for you this month!

Readyfornum2 hopefully now your period has arrived things will start to even out a little. You can still hang about with us even if you are not actively ttc. I seem to spend half of my time on this thread moaning about one wait to re-start ttc or another...

Which is what I am going to do now! Seriously it is driving me mad! I have oodles of EWCM, the pee stick hasn;t given me a smiley face but so what and I feel like one of my ancient leathery eggs is going to waste. I think I am sort of meant to not ttc just yet, but what if I were to accidentally sleep-shag my DH? Do you think that would count? Some of the things I have read suggest waiting until I feel ready to start again, so I suppose I ought to at least wait until my tummy scabs have fallen off. BUT I DONT FECKING WANT TO.

Just dropping in quickly to say good luck and baby dust to MOB

I am going through a weird phase at the moment, but am checking in on you all regularly.

Thanks Bucky. Hope you are ok, and that it is a "good" weird phase, and not a "bad" one, IYSWIM?

Caitni Am getting excited for you, now you are 7DPO already. Well done on the not drinking, and i LOVE the double bluff of your DH not drinking, so he could drive you - excellent!

Unituber Will promise to fill you in on all gory details! There aren't any yet, obviously, I just started taking the pill this morning, which feels so weird. It's good to know we've started though. I wish i had the magic answer to your quandry - but unfortunately i don't. It must be very frustrating for you not getting a definite answer anywhere. I guess, though, if no-one has said that you MUSTN'T try again, then it can't be that bad, surely? I chuckled at the idea of a "sleep-shag" although i chuckled even louder when i realised i'd mis-read it first - i won't go into to details, but let's just say it involved fields.... Someone give me a slap!

Seriously though (and i am not making light of your situation) i honestly believe that your body will let you know whether you are ready - and you do seem to be. Maybe you have to think what would be worse for you - a missed opportunity this month, or the risk of the disappointment of a BFN / CP? You seem to be indicating that the former would be worse. You said that your remaining tube appears fine, thus meaning that the risk of another EP is now very low (infact shouldn't it be less than average as you only have one tube, and the "dodgy" one has gone??) I have rambled on, and it probably hasn't helped, but ultimately i would say go with your gut instinct.

RFN2 I'm glad you now know where you are. here's hoping for a more "normal" cycle for you. Have you thought about doing temping or opks to try and confirm when you are oving?

Hi to everyone else - especially all our pregnant ladies. I think we need a bit of a roll call to establish the order in which you are all due. (Although babies will come when they are ready) It's 07MTW due first isn't it? And DG if you ever have time to lurk - hope you are all well and enjoying family life!

And can i just say AAARRRGGGGGHHHHH!!! We have now officially started our IVF cycle Can you tell i'm excited

MOB hurray for a new chapter in your TTC journey - I'll be watching closely to see how you get on - best of luck

Bucky hope you are ok missus xx

Ok roll call of the preggo ladies - I'm 6th Dec. Hatty, Jollybear and Abbymeg are all on the Dec thread too and due later that month, don't have exact dates to hand. Actually talking of Abbymeg I haven't heard from her on the AN thread for ages, anyone 'seen' her around here ?

Hello everyone,

I've just been trying to catch up after my holiday, sorry for not saying hello to everyone individually...

MOB Wowsers! How very exciting to have started IVF. I'm so pleased for you. you're bound to feel emotional about the whole thing but I'm glad you are feeling so much brighter today. I'll have my fingers crossed.

JG I would have thought that IVF clinics close in December because people are rushed off their feet with the stress of Christmas and no one would want to go in for procedures over the festive period rather than any suggestion that the cold weather influences the outcome. I second whoever (sorry I've forgot ) that said that Zita West can make sweeping statements with no evidence! I'm sure keeping the tummy warm wouldn't do any harm, a thermal vest perhaps . You and MOB need to get yourselves to a granny underwear shop!

ei Well done on the weight loss! Fingers crossed that getting technical will hurry along a sticky BFP.

PnM LOL at the idea of you whizzing round Jersey zoo in a mobility buggy! Glad to hear that the cast will be off soon. Any news on when your DPs SA will be back?

uni > it must be really frustrating for you, but if you haven't been given any offical advice to wait and you feel ready maybe you should give it a go? How does your DH feel?

MOB I think MTW must be due fairly soon. After that, sorry if I'm missing anyone out, it is mibbes, early December followed by hatty and abby mid-December and me bringing up the rear on the 26th December. We'll have to see if we stay in that order!

Big hugs and hellos to everyone!

Hello Mibbes & JB - lovely to see you both. Hope you are well and enjoying your pregnancies. Thank you both for the reminders on the dates. Not far off for any of you then!!

Mibbes No - i don't think we have seen abbymeg around for a few weeks. Hope she's ok.

JB Hope all the awful sickness has well and truly passed now & that you had a lovely holiday. Based on your suggestion, i was just thinking that JG and i could have thermal vests with WIMBEWAI(N)F embroidered on them Classy, no?

MOB I check in on you lot all the time and I'm so pleased you are finally starting your IVF I have my fingers crossed that it will be first time lucky for you.

Ei I have watched your attitude change just lately and have to say good on you for being so positive. I have a friend who had the same condition as you which was detected after 3 miscarriges and she took very small doses of asprin in her pregnancies (guided by doctors) and she has two DC now. Diagnosis means you know what to do so very best of luck for getting a BFP soon.

Hello to Bucky Judith Unituber PnM Catni Hope you are ok.

I'm due 19th October (I'm actually having a baby next month ) I had a growth scan last Thurs and all is ok although estimated weight at 7lb 11oz with 3 weeks to go I will pop in and let you know what I have and names and everything.

I don't post too often as don't want to upset any of you (I know I'm one of the suscesses of this thread but I don't want to rub it in if you know what I mean? Hormones ) I too get cross with people trying to conceive a certain "sex" or in a certain month by the time I conceived and kept hold of this one I was just bloody grateful.

MTW it is always lovely to see you, so don't worry about posting whenever you want. On my bitter and twisted sliding scale of who deserves to be pregnant (and therefore who I can be completely unequivocally happy for), people who have been on this thread come top of the list.

The same goes for you Jollybear and the lovely Mibbles. I 'saw' Abbymeg about 4 or 5 weeks ago when she popped into the May 09 ante-natal thread to say hello, but haven't seen her since. Maybe she's just off knitting frantically or something...

MOB I want a vest too! Or at least I will do once I have lost my giant fat belly. I have just realised I am at the top of the overweight BMI category (i.e. I am nearly obese!) although when I was my "ideal" weight I was a size 6 so I think something's a bit off. And I hope that those of you who've seen me do not think "she was the fat one". But anyway I am bothered that if we go for IVF they are just going to tell me I am too lardy so I bought the GI diet book today. It looks a bit complicated to me, but I guess basically I have to give up the chocolate trifles, biscuits and baguettes and replace them with chickpeas (bleaugh).

Bucky my love I hope that the weirdness is ok.

Higs to everyone.

ps - contrary to what MOB has suggested, I was not planning to jump any farm yard animals. That would probably not help me conceive...

Thank you Unituber I hold you all so dear on this thread so I keep up to date and wait for those so longed for BFP's for you all and it's so nice to keep in touch with you lovely ladies.