The WIMBEWAIF and WIMBEWAINF 2WW club, new and existing members welcome.

[Bucky2008]

Ahhh, look how nice and clean and new this thread is .

And there is a big ScaryHairy birthday cake for us all to share. I am not being good till after Thursday afterall...

Thanks for the good wishes everyone.
Bucky I suppose it is possible that the sonographer was not too good, that my dates are a wee bit out, that the fluid near my ovary is benign and that my HCG will pick up. It is also possible (I think) given that babies in my family are always late, that we are slow starters.

But I don't want to find any reason to get my hopes up right now, because I don't want to be disappointed like that again. I was genuinely shocked not to see the bean on the screen.

I'll go to the GP on Monday and try to get the NHS to do their job. If the diagnosis is going to take loads of tests I am not that pleased to be paying for it (at a few hundred for a consultation and scan, God knows how much per blood test!)

I can't believe I am dealing with this all over again...

MrsH Again, I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this. It's a terrible thing to have to go through. I hope the NHS steps up and treats you properly. The last thing you need now is any more stress in getting a proper diagnosis. I know we all deserve BFPs and healthy pregnancies, but you in particular have been through so much these past months

Hope everyone else is doing well. Things fine here - bit of a lower temp for me this morning so feet firmly back on the ground again and ignoring all imaginary "symptoms". Convinced AF will show as usual so going to have some wine tonight.

PnM we're planning to head over to your neck of the woods (kind of) tomorrow, going to Stansted Park for a food festival thingy (see here). Though if the weather stays foul we may just stay closer to home...

bloody hell mrsH im so sorry i really hope the sonographer was a duffer and you get a more accurate scan from you GP as this should force them to action xxx take care of yourself and please come back to us when you are ready xxxxx {{{{{{{{big higs}}}}}}}
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

SH How are you? Stupid question i know, because of course you are not alright, but just wanted to see how things are and let you know that you are still very much in my thoughts. XX

PnM How's the foot? Did you have to get a looser plaster put on?

Caitni How's things? Any more symptoms?

Bucky Done anything else regarding Norway?

EI Any signs of ov yet?

JB Nice to see you. How are things with you and jolly cub? How many weeks are you now? (Just trying to work out when our next cyber neice / nephew is due)

Big hello to everyone else!

Just cooking a nice roast with all the trimmings, so off to finish it, and then stuff my face...

Hi MOB I'm bearing up and clutching at straws. Somewhere in my heart I can't believe it is over and so I am off to the Dr tomorrow to get some more tests.

Hope everyone is ok. Sorry I can't post more right now, am feeling terribly self-absorbed, but I am thinking about you all.

SH just wanted to pop in and say I am so sorry you are going through even more heartache - I will have everything crossed that there has been a mistake and you get better news tomorrow. Keep us updated hun xx

hi girls
MrsH good luck with the tests tomorrow xx i hope as MOB says that there has been a terrible mistake and they have good news for you tomorrow {{{{{{{higs}}}}}}}}}
MOB nope not a sausage (or an egg for that matter) here im on CD 25 now and i have usually ived by now and i am well into the 2ww by now but nowt last cycle was similar aswell with no clear ov dates so im guessing my ovaries have given up hope and have taken a well deserved holidayt somewhere sunny if not i dont know what the hell they are playing at i have had my consultant appointment through for 22nd september to see the top man in MC and fertility problems so hopefully he will be able to shed light on the situation
hope everyone else has had a lovely weekend
xx ei xx

sorry MrsH i meant as mibbes thought although im sure MOB thinks it too xx
xx ei xx

Thanks Ei. The GP still hasn't managed to speak to the EPAU to book me an appointment so I am at work. I gave up on her and spoke to the EPAU myself and they said they are very busy today so can I come tomorrow, which of course I will.

I know this sounds terribly naive, but I can't help feeling that they've got it wrong and I am just havign a weird preganny but that all will be well. Here's hoping.

MrsH I'm so at your GP for not even being able to organise the scan for you. As if you don't have enough to deal with . And I also hope that the scan tomorrow reveals better news - I'll be thinking of you and keeping everything crossed xxx

MOB hope you enjoyed your roast!

Ei hmmm where is that egg? It's possible for temps to not show a totally dramatic shift and for ov to still take place, so here's hoping your BD-ing marathon pays off!

PnM how's the foot? Hope that plaster got sorted.

Bucky hello luvvie, any news about a trip to Norway in early winter??

AF due for me tomorrow - temps aren't great, but no spotting at all so far. Which is a big thing for me, as I've had pre-AF spotting for ages (usually starts 2-3 days before). And no skin break outs either, which is also unusual. Though am thinking this is just my body playing a cruel trick, to get my hopes up, so that I can be gutted when my period shows. I caved in and did a test yesterday - BFN of course. I hate FR tests.

And am on total knicker watch...my colleagues must think I have the weakest bladder in Christendom the amount of trips I've made to the bathroom today.

GP still hasn't called now. Flipping ridiculous. It's a good thing I am not reliant on her and have called the hospital myself. This is all going in my very long complaint letter to the PCT.

I have researched HCG levels and mine are (just) in normal range. I remain unconvinced that it's all over... (and I hope that the backache and mild cramps are just too much Pret dried mango)

I have fingers crossed for you Caitni.

MrsH your GP sounds terrible . I appreciate that the surgery is probably v busy, but this scan is vital to you so can't believe they can't even set it up. Am hoping your HCG levels rise. What time are you going to the EPAU tomorrow?

Hm, well she just called to say she can't get through to the EPAU at all. Which begs the question of why I managed to get through to them on my first try. Weird.

MrsH god, what a rubbish GP!! Good luck tomorrow [cyber hand-holding emoticon] - really hope it's better news xx

Who is she MrsH, we better send the boys round to that surgery! grr.

Caitni I am too chicken to ring. I am being a total weirdo about it. I just want it to happen naturally . I can't ring from work really so I am making excuses as to why I haven't rung up yet. It just seems so final, like there is no hope. I don't know what my problem is....I want a baby....

MrsH hope the scan went OK. Am thinking of you xx

Bucky I think you're perfectly normal to procrastinate a little. The step from natural ttc to assisted ttc is a big one, so it's OK to take a little time to get used to the idea. Natural ttc is what we're designed for after all. But don't feel hopeless, if anything there's every chance you'll be the typical case of "I got my BFP right before my IVF appointment!". Which is enough of a reason to keep bd-ing away while waiting for your appointment . The important thing for me about assisted conception is it's a matter of "when" rather than "if" (yes, I've thought about it extensively as my body seems intent on not allowing me to conceive naturally!!). Still though, I'll be glad when you make that appointment. It'll be exciting to follow your progress!

Still no AF from me, I usually start in the morning so of course going to the bathroom approx once an hour. So tiresome. Temp still not great (about 36.58 - pretty much the same as yesterday) but boobs still comedy sore. I'm still a teensy bit hopeful, but trying not to set myself up for too much of a disappointment...

Hi all
Am too to post much. It's another ectopic. Not sure what happens next but my fertility begins to look decidely ropey.

Oh MrsH I'm so sorry . You poor thing, you must be heartbroken . Please don't post if you're too upset. Take care of yourself (and your DD and your DH) and give yourself time to grieve.

SH (sorry, just can't bear to call you Mrs Happy anymore) I am just so so for you, and of course your DH as well. It seems so unfair and cruel that you should be going through this again. I feel lost for words, but i just want to say that my heart goes out to you. Do take good care of yourself, and remember we are all here for you, and will walk beside you through this awful time. XXXX

Caitni I am a teensy bit hopeful for you too, but like you say i don't want to aid in setting you up for a disappointment. You must be exhausted with all this knickerwatching!! (And here am i, supposed to be working, but instead pondering on the state of your gusset ) Fingers crossed for you.

EI Any sign of that egg yet?? Hope you and DH still have some energy yet!

Bucky I completely understand your reluctance to take the IVF any further. It is a daunting step. We were only able to really get excited about it and make plans once the consultant told us there was no way at all we would ever conceive naturally. It is our only option, so we are happy to go with it. I guess in your situation, though, you still have no reason why things haven't happened naturally (aside from the fibroid, which, it seems, no one is concerned about) So i completely understand your feeling that it still should happen naturally. And of course that is the best, and the easiest option. (And the most fun ) IVF is a huge step, and you must only go with it when you are ready. You are still young (I can't remember your age, but i know everyone here is younger than me!!) so take your time and make further enquiries when you feel ready. I would still suggest you make an appt to see a consultant here privately, just to discuss your situation in general, and options available to you.

Hello to everyone else - hope you are all ok. XX

SH more higs for you poppet. . Whenever you think some gin will help you let us know and we will meet you.

Caitni how is the knicker watching going? Any sign of La Evil One yet? Oooh check me out, I have coined yet another phrase LEO.....

MOB I saw you over on the other thread, I haven't been there long and they are all going to be quite disappointed in my failure to ring up Scanhealth yet again . I really should. We are being really rubbish at BDing too at the moment though so I think maybe we aren't improving our chances naturally. I never thought it would be so difficult to just PICK UP THE BLEEDIN PHONE . Procrastinate, procrastinate....

GG are you back yet, how long have you been on holiday for ????.

Hey I saw DGs baby on Facebook, so cute....he isn't all creased up or anything...

Quick message from knicker watch HQ - still no sign of La Evil One (Bucky, so much better than Aunt Flo) so bought some CB tests for tomorrow morning as if nothing by then FF is telling me to test (gulp). Fingers firmly crossed. I've never been late, so am now convinced I must have ov'ed later than I thought. We shall see.

Hope every one is doing well - especially you SH to you x

Hi all,

Sh I'm so so sorry to hear your news. Everything I write just sounds contrived but I'm thinking of you and your family right now. Biggest higs to you all.

Bucky get on that phone right now!! (well, prob not right now, tis too late, but def tomorrow). I jest of course because I do understand that its a massive step for you to take - you procrastinate for as long as you need to.

Oooo Caitni..... I'm feeling optimistic for you. Fingers crossed that LEO (thanks Bucky!) doesn't arrive and you get to crack open the cb!

Any sign of ov yet Ei???

How are you doing MOB??

I did have to have my plaster cast split because it was too tight. Still having issues with swelling and blue toes but nothing major. Af/Leo due in 2 days I think - be glad to get it over with and start on a new cycle!

Am having op tomorrow (eek!) - one of my tubes is coming out and hopefully they'll check the other.
Then I pick myself up and try again...

Lots of love to you all. (Have had my first drink in weeks, and am becomng amorous)

hi ladies
SH im so so so sorry this is happening to you again im so gutted for you good luck with your op tomorrow and i will be thinking of you and your family as MOB so eloquently put it we will be walking beside you through your entire journey through this awful time for you {{{{{{{{{higs}}}}}}}}}}}
bucky il send you some phone related strength so you can take the step towards the info about the scanhealth ivf it may be the push your eggs need to give you a bfp
caitni good luck with testing tomorrow
i put my temps into Ff this mornin and it has given me thick solid lines i am apparantly 3dpo im not sure wether to believe it or what but i suppose only time will tell i have had my appointment through to see the consultant in LWH on 22nd sept at 11am so hopefully things will become clearer soon
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

Morning all.

SH Good for you having a drink last night - I'm sure you needed it. Thinking of you today. I'm glad they are giving you the op (not that i would wish an operation on anyone, but at least it means they are looking after you IYSWIM) Is this the same tube as last time? Hope they check the other one as well. No reason why you can't conceive with one tube. You WILL pick yourself up (we will make sure of that) You WILL try again, and you WILL get there in the end.

EI 3DPO!! That's good. That appt has come round really quick, and it sounds like you are seeing someone really good. I am so pleased for you.

PnM Blue toes don't sound too good!! Hope your DH is still waiting on you. I am fine thanks, we have another appt at the clinic this friday with the nurse, to plan the treatment and go through all the drugs and how to take them. I am very excited and very scared all at the same time!! You will probably all laugh, but i have bought an IVF self-hypnosis/relaxation CD. I just thought that i want to do everything possible to help it work, and i believe that mental attitude is very powerful. Also, i do tend to get quite stressed about things, so this should hopefully help with that. I am also going to start the reflexology again.

Caitni Am still secretly getting a bit excited for you. Do let us know if you test!!

Bucky Tell DG to get a photo on her MN profile!! Hope she's doing ok. Pick up that phone today - it really sounds like you want to!! As i said yesterday, i completely understand your reluctance. But i suppose that it will do no harm for you & DP to go and have a nice weekend in Norway, whilst visiting the clinic. If you make that step, you might then know if you want to pursue it, or wait a while.

Have a good day everyone. Thinking of you especially SH XX