***Lets support eachother again- you know who you are ***

[mummy2olivia]

charliesmum, nandos, beakas, sugr, cornflower, poppy, becky and everyone else who miscarried in may/june 2008....

We have all been very brave together and supported eachother. For those of us that are ready, it may be time to support eachother again as we return to TTC. Lets hold hands, remember our loss and give a nod to the future as we endeavour to procreate and............

SHAG!!

As promised, a thread to stay in touch. Will also see you on the MC avengers thread.

We made a huge effort this month as well: doing the deed every other day. It's so frustrating when the AF arrives after all that. You just think how come we're missing the target? What's going on??

Hi everyone!

Just another quick one as am packing to go back to the UK for a week, yay!

How are you all?

M2O how did you get on??? Have been thinking about you...

All fine here, started counselling sessions on Tues which was tough, but a relief at the same time really.

Be back on soon. Love to you all xxx

hi everyone..
been away lately seeing my cousin deteriorating away..been crying everytime i see him/thinking of him..
his cancer has spread to his brain and his doc said he has got a month left.
am going back to UK tmr and hopefully get my blood test done asap when i reach.
i will be lurking every now n then cos' am feeling very low at the moment
will post once in a while when im feeling better..take care all

Hi everyone!

I'm sitting here waiting for the 'in-laws to arrive. Now we all live near each other they come round quite often so this means I am spending more time cleaning the house (the 'in-laws house is one of the sickeningly immaculate houses that never seem to attract dust).

Nandos I am sending you a hug. It must be so hard what you are going through.

I'm getting to prime fertility time again soon. We're trying to do it every other day at least. DH has next week off work so hopefully we'll manage a few sessions. Although I'm worried we won't be able to keep up the momentum, he has a sore bottom (carpet burns - no comment!) and a bad back.

Hi everyone

This is the last day of the October break for us and what a miserable wet week it has been. All the trips I had planned for ds fell by the wayside as the weather was too awful. Have bee doing a lot of drawing and crafting!!

becky good luck with your "fertility" sessions . I have began taking agnus Castus and dh is on the zinc to see if we can help things along. It's all very depressing though when you make a huge effort and it all seems in vain.

nandos my thoughts are with you and your cousin at this time. It is so hard watching someone else's pain and being unable to do anything to help. Hope the blood tests go ok.

mbs how are you doing?

Off to help gran with packing today as she is off on hol tonight.

Today is the first day of half term for us here. The sun is shining... We might even go to the beach tomorrow.

Ooh sun, think I have nearly forgot what that looks like. Enjoy the beach becky we are just getting the school things ready tonight. Back to the routine tomorrow

We went to the beach and ... it snowed. It was sooooo cold. The DSs cried because we said it was too cold to stay on the beach to make sandcastles. It really was though.

I'm using those ovulation stick things to see when I am at my most ripe this month. I had a positive today so poor DH is girding his loins as I speak.

hi all
am feeling a bit better today so thought i come and post..
reached london on monday afternn and cant believe its so cold at this time of the yr. theres a hailstorm here in london few days back too.
i totally forgot we had 2 pet fish at home but before dh left london, he put the auto timer food for the fishes and now both of them are like giant fishes due to the timer overfeeding them for 2 mths!

hope all of you are fine oh btw just had my blood test done. it was a nightmare. they injected my right arm and theres no blood coming out cos' she didnt inject into my vein so she injected my left arm and within 2 mins its all over. i came out from the room like John McCain with arms so stiff also dh had his swimmers tested too, will update on the results when we get it in a few days time..

Hi everyone

Oh nandos lol at your giant fishes we tried to keep fish a while back after we got a fish tank and accessories in a prize draw from the nursery. Sadly we were not very good fish keepers and we lost 3 of them. I was too upset to get any more. Ds has been on about it again recently so we may attempt to get some more.
Hope your blood tests are ok and the swimmers are swimming well.

becky OMG snow on the beach...sounds like Scotland

I had a poor me day on Tues as I decided to change handbags to go out and when I was taking the rubbish out of the one I wanted to use I came across my positive pg test from earlier this year. Didn't know it was in there and broke my heart crying as yesterday would have been my due date. Anyway feeling lots better today having got that out my system. Have ordered a fertility spell from ebay and all the stuff came yesterday so hoping that is a good omen. We did one last year and within a month I was pg after 3.5 years on ttc. I know it all sounds a bit whacky but any port in a storm and all that . Just hope it works.

Happy Hallowe'en everyone

Happy belated Halloween!! Oh no, the halloween smileys have gone .

Oh Poppy I'm so sad for you. Well done you for getting through the due date, it must've been horrible. I hope that spell works, and no, I don't think it's wacky - it's worth giving anything a try really isn't it. It was my birthday yesterday, and although I can't say what it was I hope my wish comes true... Am thinking of you and hoping you're getting lots of cuddles from DH.

Nandos Welcome back! Have you got jetlag? Hope you're happy to be home! Good luck with the results of the tests. Is your doctor going to give them to you? It's good you don't have to wait too long. Let us know how you get on.

Becky Hope you have well and truly knackered out DH with bedroom activity . Can't believe the snow, what's happening with the world?!?!

I've had a good week back in the UK - got DH back (a little early too which was good) and mum gave me her credit card to go shopping . Didn't get too much as felt bad, but I did pick up a nice pair of jeans and some shoes, hurray!

We are off back to Belgium this afternoon, and then the PIL's should be going tomorrow (after a whole month staying with us) so life should hopefully go back to normal at last.

Should be able to come on here more often too, yay!

Hope you all have a good Sunday x

ps M2O have been thinking about you - I hope you didn't get bad news when you went for your appointment. I really, really, really hope you are okay. You know that we are all here for you if and when you need us x

Sorry havent been back to give you my news....am very slack!!

Appt went well- I wrote loads of notes to take with me and Dr sat and read them all. As soon as she read them she said 'this looks like endometriosis to me' She examined me which hurt my bum and I had quite a lot of residual pain for the next day or two. After she examined me she said that she wants to do a laproscopy to see what grade endo I have (there are 4 stages) and they will film the lap and see whether I need laser treatment or excision of the endo. Hopefully it will be mild so wont need either! she was really nice and asked me what was affecting me the most at the moment- meaning the pain or the bowel upsets- I told her that wanting to conceive and being on the pill was bothering me the most and I was worried about the effect on my fertility. she was really nice and said that to put my mind at rest she would put dye through my tubes to check that they arent blocked with endo which I am really pleased about- she said they wouldnt normally do that but she thought it was best to put my mind at rest. However, she does want me to stay on the pill for pain relief which I am not happy about but DH thinks that I should. Am due to start next pack tomorrow so am having a good think about it today but my head knows what I should do . so that will be my fourth month on the pill- so annoying!!!

DH has been ace about it all- he is taking loads of vits to help his lazy spermies while I sort myself out. bless him. Phoned hospital and begged for a date for my laproscopy and they said I was provisionally booked in for 17th December (although secetary has got dec 25th on my notes- err dont think so!!). Dh has booked 3 weeks off at christmas to look after me. I love him more than ever after all this- I have been quite low just lately. I think knowing I am having this done at christmas when I should be looking forward to the birth of our baby (due date is christmas eve ) has just been a bit much to handle. Plus have had another bad bout of tonsillitis recently (6th one this year ) and my mum is having an operation soon for a bladder prolapse and with no brothers or sisters or dad, her care will be down to us- which is fine but she is a cantancorous old moo! life just feels a bit crap just lately but I thank my lucky stars every day for my wonderful husband. He has been an absolute angel through it all- hes held my hand through every examination, drs appts and prodding, he really is a treasure. I really want to do something to tell him how much I love him and how special he has been this year but am at a loss of what to do. any ideas greatly appreciated!!

HOWEVER, there are some positives- am taking driving lessons and they are going really well!! They are expensive and making a bit of a dent in my spare cash but am really enjoying them and looking forward to having my freedom. Not that I am a prisoner or anything cos DH takes me anywhere I want to go but am excited about being self reliant. And he is looking forward to going to friends and actually drinking rather than watching me get smashed!!

And work has been a nightmare just lately but that seems to be getting sorted. The director of my dept has actively told me I am doing too much and am doing more than my job should entail and is telling my line manager tomorrow to take some stuff off me. yay!!! am sort of dreading her reaction and the reaction of people in my department who he wants to move sround into other areas but hey ho- its nice to have some backing.

Anyway enough selfishness!!

How are you all?

MBM I need a mum like yours!!! Glad you had a good shopping trip. Did the Docs say anything at your appt about ttc again? or are you having a break? I hope you are ok honey

nandos How is ttc going for you? are you back on clomid? Hope DHs results come back ok.

poppy sorry to hear you had a sad due date- I am dreading mine. (((((hugs))))

becky I hope ttc isnt getting you down. its so frustrating when you cant see why its not happening. I have everything crossed for you.

We need a happy ending on this thread

Also, have decided when I am driving and MBM is in the country we should all meet and give eachother a proper hug rather than virtual ones!!

M2olivia,
nice to see you back..how long r u going to be on the pill? hope its not too long before you can start to ttc. and it so sweet of your dh to take care of you during christmas time
had a discussion with my dh recently and it made him more considerate and more caring nowadays(u guys know the old story)
btw lucky that your boss took some work off your shoulders, you really need a rest..

MBM, its great that you enjoyed in UK with your family..

Becky, hope we get to see the first BFP soon!
and the next, n the next..

Poppy, hope the stuff you bought from Ebay is
working for you again!

Am so sorry for the 'me me me post' and the 'feeling down' post lately but my cousin passed away yesterday night and i was devastated that i didnt wait a few more days before he went he deserved this life more than me and has achieved a lot more than what i have this past 27 yrs..
also end of nov will be my supposed due date but somehow i am at ease cos' i know its never meant to be iykwim.
hopefully time will heal everything and i'll get to my normal self again soon ...i really feel the need to share this with all of you ..

Oh Nandos so sorry to hear about your cousin. you are such a lovely person though, of course you have acheived during your life.

I think we have all had a shite year TBH and come new year we need to make a resolution that things will get better.

Nandos I am so sorry to hear your sad news. There is no rhyme or reason to these things.

I think we all need something good to happen to us. The next couple of months are going to be hard with our due dates for the babies we lost in May come up. Mine was 9th December. I was just thinking today that I should have been waddling to school with DS1.

M2O well done for getting through your appointment. You're very brave. At least you now know what's been going on but its so unfair you have to take the pill. I will have a think about ideas for special treat for your DH.

MBM your mum sounds great! I would have found it hard not to go bonkers with the credit card, what a nice treat

Well DH and I have been making huge efforts at conceiving this month - we've done it more times in the last two weeks than we did on our honeymoon. I've been using the stick things for testing for ovulation but I've found them a bit crap. I thought I had a positive result one day but it turned out that a faint line is in fact negative so either I ovulated really early (I had the physical symptoms really early on), or I haven't ovulated yet, or I haven't ovulated at all. Who knows?

Nandos so very sorry to hear about your cousin. It is always cruel when someone so young passes away. It is only natural to feel devastated at his loss and it will be a doubly hard month with your due date approaching. Be kind to yourself. You are such a caring person you deserve to be happy. Lets hope that next year will be your year and you will succeed in becoming a mum. I have everything crossed for you.

M2O I am so sorry that you are having such a rotton time at the moment. You must really feel like you are being kicked while you are down. Glad your DH is being so lovely to you and helping you out so much. Good luck with the driving lessons as well. Will also try and think of treat ideas for you DH. It can be really hard doing something special for blokes!

MBM Glad you had a nice time in UK. What a lovely mum you have .

Becky hope the ttc is fruitful this month. It is always such a downer when you put in loads of effort and along comes AF. Quite depressing

I have had my spell cast and we need to do our part now. Also have been sent a lucky charm and a wishing stone to carry around with me. I always feel really selfconscious doing things like this with DH but to give him credit he says he would dance around the garden naked if it would bring us a baby. Don't quite know what the neighbours would make of that though .

Lol at your DH dancing around the garden naked...perhaps it will work! Worth a try?

Happy Guy Falkes Night everyone .

hope you girls had a nice Halloween and Guy Falkes night..theres a lot of fireworks here in the 1st nov and it was very beautiful
Btw thanks for all your support when i needed it really appreciate it .. its so nice to share things on MN as sometimes ppl in RL dont seems to understand at times..

goodluck poppy,becky,M2O and MBM..i am in CD15 and theres 2 wks to go before i can test/AF comes. hope it pass by quickly
my lower adomen seems to be bloated and its so uncomfortable hope its a good sign though

Hello!

Huge apologies for not having written sooner - where does the time disappear to??

M2O So pleased that your appointment went well. It must be difficult at the mo with so much going on, poor you. A friend of mine gets tonsilitis whenever she's run down, maybe that's the case with you too? 6 times is a lot... You must be fed up of it by now. Will have a good old think re an idea for your DH. Are you wanting to get him a gift, or do something that doesn't cost anything?
How did it go with your line manager? Have they lessened the load?
Re ttc, my gynae gave me v bad info when I got the results - she told us we could try again the next month. Have found out for certain now that we shoudn't be ttc for at least 6 months after a partial molar, and have been advised to change gynae! Am having tests each month to check that my hcg levels are normal - if they start to rise then it means there's a problem. Got a -ve result for the blood test this week so providing that continues we could start again next March-ish. Am already getting excited about it, and am trying to be v healthy, but trying to put on weight at the same time Not easy..........
Btw, think meeting up is a fab idea!!!! Am not in the UK now til next year, but we should defo try to do it! That would be lovely .

Nandos I am just so, so sorry to hear about your cousin. You are in my thoughts, and I'm sending you a big tight cuddle . I hope the 2ww doesn't drag and that you get some good news at the end of it . You deserve some happiness after all that you've been through this year.

Becky That's great that you and dh have been so busy in the bedroom department . Hope it pays off! It is really tough with the due dates coming up - are you going to do anything special? I don't know what to do, but I want to do something. Might buy a helium balloon, attach a little message and let it go. Is bound to be such a sad day .

Poppy The lucky charm and the wishing stone sound great. Where did you get them from? When I fell pg with ds we'd put out some laughing buddha's that I was given by a friend. Apparently when someone gives them to someone else the recipient is meant to get pg . Certainly worked for us. I lost them when we moved in Feb, but am hoping to be able to get them out again next year. Can you drop some nice big smiley buddha shaped hints at dh? If not then send me your address and I'll buy one for you! (That goes for any of you by the way!)

Sh*t - just turned round and ds has been feeding his lunch to the dogs - floor is now covered in cheesey potato and peas. So is ds...

Better go and do damage limitation - love to you all, and hope you're having great weekends! xxx

nandos hope you are doing ok and coping with things. Also hope you get good news at the end of the 2ww.

MBM the buddha sounds a great idea will put it on my xmas list for dh
I got the lucky charm/wishing stone when I bought my fertility spell from ebay. The woman who does them is called Mia Angel and she appeared in preg and birth magazine last yr after being asked to do an interview. She was apparantly the only witch who was prepared to appear. We had bought the last spell prior to this as I just liked the sound of her. She has loads of testimonials and she says these are all people who are prepared to be contacted. So fingers crossed this time.

DS has just appeared at my side saying his mouth was sore and on inspection I found his firt wobbly tooth! He nearly passed out when I told him as I think he expected it to fall straight out and blood to gush

Went to the fireworks display last night and spent a marvellous hour being beaten by the lashing rain while ds waved a glow stick. Fireworks lovely but we went home soaked through and freezing. Good old Scottish weather

I can vouch for Mia angel!! After 15 months of trying very hard I got pregnant 1 month after doing her spell.

When we start trying again next month I won't hesitate to do another spell.

My DD has recently lost 2 front bottom teeth within days of each other- one she pulled out herself and she ate the other one with a big fat steak she told my friend she 'gets a tenner for bigs ones and twenty quid for little uns' (her exact words) she's a right wheeler dealer!!

Been out driving again tonight- its going really well!! Reversed round a corner tonight- spot on!! Am hopefully doing test in the new year as long as I get my theory (did a practise theory last night and only got 22 out of 35-oops!) When I'm up and running lets organise a meet up for MBMs next trip to the UK- a nice coffee somewhere and a natter. It would be lovely to meet the people that have been so supportive over the past 6 months.

Work has improved already I'm glad to say- bout time too. Was doing way too much for the pittance I'm on

MBM- am shocked at the gynaes advice- tell her to stick it and see a new one for defo. And use these next few months to work towards a healthy positive demeanour before your next pregnancy- they are my orders! I want you to look up the Marilyn Glenville post-mc plan (highly recommended), positive visualisation, acupuncture, excercise, a holiday- whatever it takes to get you strong and ready for a healthy pregnancy.

Poppy- Let us know if the buddha works- think we could all do with a bit of help!!

Nandos and Becky- no pressure but c'mon- we need some good news!!

love to all

xxxx

Aah M2O I am liking your instructions - you should soooo be a doctor . Will look up the MG plan this evening. Funnily enough, as soon as we lost the last baby I booked a holiday for February, we're off to Marrakesh for a week and I can't wait! I am actually feeling better now (physically) than I have since before I got pg with ds - the month before I fell pg in March this year I had really bad flu and was in bed for ten days and hardly ate. Was also still breastfeeding which really took it out of me... Then straight after that mc I got pg again and was v poorly for weeks. I do feel so much stronger now, and am defo working on building myself up even more before we try again. Am also thinking more positively about it... Whether I'll be thinking like that if I do actually fall pg who knows! Will be even more terrified than I can imagine I reckon! Have you been using the last few months to build yourself up a bit too? I know it's awful having to wait to be able to ttc, but at least we can focus on getting ready for it when we're given the go-ahead.

So where shall we meet? Where are you all in the UK? I know you're in Scotland Poppy. Where exactly? Normally when I come back I go to the Wirral (near Chester/Liverpool) but I don't mind travelling! Ooooh it's very exciting! Could go to London too if that's easier for people? Yay!! Hopefully we'll all be up the duff by then .

Poppy Am going to buy a spell too on your and M2O's advice... Was it all one package that you got or did you buy the spell and the charm/stone separately? Let's hope it works for all of us!

Right, off to cook now - we are having a very unhealthy but rather yummy fry-up for supper on dh's request. Hhhhmmm my mouth is watering at the thought of it!

Hope you all had a good weekend!

I'm in Shrewsbury. I don't mind travelling either! It would be great to meet everyone .

Tell me more about these spells. Where do you get them? I have a little spell book but it is for things such as 'meeting the man of your dreams', and 'hearing from a long lost friend' and you have to find really weird stuff and ribbons and things.

Fry up sounds lovely. My DH has made moussaka for tea tonight.