The wagoners have lost their way, NEW THREAD HERE - for TTC'ers and waiting to TTC'ers alike

[NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain]

My DH thinks that people with 2 phones are drug dealers or prostitutes. I do tell him that some people have 1 for work and 1 for family etc. He doesn't have any of it.

He has a sheltered life.

I just had a funny thought....whilst I'm here and 'chatting' live, its easy to say the most open of things (if you'll pardon the pun!!), but I can't imagine what its like to anyone getting home tonight and reading through to catch up.

For all you catcher uppers, I apologise for my wittering. There seems to have been a lot of it today!

Kayz, luckily it was my next door neighbour's birthday so they were out!

Oh yes, and DH doesn't really look like Ewan McGregor! (I wish! )

I didn't ease until DS2, looks like you'll have to have 2 VBACS

DC3 will have me flapping in the wind LOL

Cal read back through some of the old threads, t'is all very but farking hilarious

NJ - I'm with you, I'd LOVE it if DH could manage the birth himself....and I know he would too. With the ECS, he watched as much as he could and didn't watch the knife cut only coz he didn't want to leave me.

That's another reason I was so sad about the ECS as I had really wanted him to have the opportunity to cut the cord (and I wanted him delivering onto my tummy etc), but instead, they just whipped him out and wrapped him up and it was a good few minutes before I got to see him.

But it doesn't matter coz he's here now and beautiful.

And I'm not biased, its people I don't know who keep telling me how gorgeous he is!

If I do have another CS and stay in hospital, i'll make damn sure that a) I wear my contact lenses b) I sleep whenever visitors are there playing with baby c) I have my makeup, look in a mirror and apply as necessary!

None of the staff noticed I looked like a ghost until I pointed it out on day 3, they did an iron test and I was on the verge of needing a transfusion. Extreme quantities of iron tablets for me for the next week!!!

It must be me Moos. But he does kinda look like him in that picture.

I'm going to spend the rest of my pregnancy trying to find out about breast feeding so I can tell the MW and HV to sod off politely when they tell me I have to FF.

Kays, I've added a new pic of him on my FB, he looks a bit more like himself there!

And now he's on my profile

How can I find you on FB? If I add you, is there anyway of my RL friends finding out I know you from here?

Argh!! He doesn't look like Ewan Mcgregor in that picture. How wierd!!

I don't think so Cal. Have you joined the MN group?

T'was Kay who want's her DH to give birth!

I actually quite like the whole birthing thing.... well I did with DS2, DS1 was a different story...!

Cal, must admit the ECS's I've seen on the baby programs (now you know where my great intellegence comes from!!! ) look a lot better than they used to, they do now place the baby in the mums arms, all being well with baby of course, and you can lower the screen to watch the baby being delivered, not perfect, but I think better than it used to be.

Kay, you don't need to read books about BF, all you need to learn is how to get the right latch, and be reassured that as long as the baby is happy (notice I say happy, that is not the same as gaining loads of weight), it is working. There is no great science to it. And if you are anything like me, with this being your second, you will soon realise that actually the baby is your's not their's, you will be so much more confident to do what you think is right, and not what they say. GP's, MW's, HV's, all have the purpose, and if something is going wrong, they are the best, but they are only human, they don't know absolutely everything, they don't always have the best possible answers, and some of them are just waste of spaces!

Sorry for the rant And all that from a wannabe MW

Sorry just to add to my rant, of course the baby does need to gain weight, but the charts in the red books are based on formula fed babies weight gain, which is very different to the weight gain in BF babies.

They were pretty nasty though Nat. Said that social services would get involved if I didn't FF him as he wasn't gaining enough weight despite him gaining weight in his first week.

He just wouldn't latch on and I never got much while expressing and I think I just expected some help as we were told that they would help us if we needed it.

It was so horrible and TBH I was surprised I didn't get PND as I was in pieces most of the time until we decided to completely FF.

Kays, that's awful! Maybe our MW will be better this time? My 1st was terrible but the 2nd was lovely. Perhaps if you have difficulty again someone like the NCT or LLL people could help you?

See you already know that that was disgusting behaviour from them, next time, if they tried it on again, I'd be tempted to elt them get SS involved, I think they'd find themselves either out of a job, or at least on the way to it! If he wasn't latching on correctly, you should have been referred to a BFC.

Can't remember off the top of my head now, but there are a couple of national breastfeeding helplines, if you do a search, you will find them, keep the numbers near by this time, and don't feel bad for ringing them. And of course there is always MN

I am going to go and pay my son some attention, bless him! See you all in a bit xxx

Thats what I am hoping Moos. My normal MW broke her ankle 4 days before DS was born and I had stand in ones who were just horrible. DH kicked one out once and made a huge formal complaint about her and he was the 14th person to complain in that one week.

My MW then retired when DS was 2 months old and when I spoke to her about it she was horrified and said I should have rang her and she would have come round to help me.

OK, so I've found the MN group - how the bloomin' heck am I supposed to find anyone in there?

Kay - think I've found you! I recognise your DS!

Stalker alert! Stalker alert!

Can you tell I'm quite excited!

YEAH!!!

Your DS is gorgeous!!!! I love that picture of him on your DH's shoulder!!

I'm on page 6 of the 'what's your mn name?' thread.

Wow you lot have been busy today.

DD had her MMR today and she didn't even cry. It is the first time they have done them in her arms as well.

She also had her check up re her weight and it is good news. She was on the 9th centile but has gained and is now just below the 25th (she weighs 20lbs 10oz)so there is nothing to worry about. Her height has shot up though and she is now on the 75th centile so we think she is going to be tall like her daddy.

It is going to take me ages to catch up so will be back as soon as i can.

Wow, it's hard to catch up with this thread!!!

am I the only one on here who doesn't have any children yet? You've all officially scared the hell out of me! AND made me want it all even more than I already do...how is that even possible!??!

Your stories are amazing, apalling, crazy, etc, etc. But I think what surprised me most is that someone said the MW told them not to scream

Not sure how my DH would be about giving birth. He's an incredibly rational person - almost to a fault - but also a big sissy when it comes to things like pain, discomfort, even cold water, etc

Kay that is so wrong re your bf experience. DD was sent back into hospital by MW when she was a week old as she had dropped 3 centiles (she was born 8lbs 4 oz and after 7 days only weighed 6lb 12 oz).

Hospital staff sent her back home again saying that she was fine (lots of poos and wee's) and that they felt she was born heavier than what she should be (nice way of telling me that I was a fat Biffa and ate too much while pg I think)and that the drop was her evening herself out. Sure enough she has been on the same centile (9th) ever since.

It isn?t all about a large weight gain as long as they move up at an even pace. IYSWIM