MC Avengers - Chocolate cake anyone?

[mistlethrush]

I've started a new thread as the old one was full - hope everyone finds their way here OK.

Thanks for the advice cake, and for sharing your experience. I'm hoping that my period arrives soon so I can get some sort of a handle on what's happening with my body and start to ttc in earnest.

Hopefully I'll soon be holding hands with you all on the 2ww, ontheup. At the moment I'm facing a who-knows-how-long wait for af to arrive!

Hello Kate,
Thank you for your message, it's good to know we're not alone. This was my first pregnancy, so I'm quite clueless about the whole thing (although getting much better informed now!). I told my GP that I wasn't confident with the gyn that I saw after the birth (I was being polite. He was useless!), and he said there were obstetricians in my area who might be more relevant. I am really angry that I was not referred to them originally.
Anyway, I will try that route first, and then go the private route if necessary - thank you for the names and number.

I thought that I might be pregnant a week or so ago, and the realisation turned me briefly into a headcase - so I know how you feel! My suspicion is that there is no single explanation for my loss, but I need to make sure that I have ruled out anything that can be ruled out before trying again.

I've just come back to work about the time when I should have been starting my maternity leave - it's a bitter pill.

It sounds like you are pregnant again - I hope everything goes well . I'm sure it will now that you have someone good looking after you!

Well, you don't read this sentence very much on this thread but...
Hurrah! I got my period!

At least I think I have.... Nobody ever tells you how CONFUSING the miscarriage experience is. The mc stopped 2w 4d ago, and I've had nothing since then- no pain, no bleeding. The bleeding now is quite "normal" and red, like a period, basically. Does that sound normal or could it be a remnant of the mc?

So it seems (everything crossed) that my body might be getting back into a regular cycle and we can ttc properly again. Then I'll be introduced to the "joys" of the 2ww I guess.

How exciting.

Sorry to hog the thread! But oh God, someone please step in and shake me, I'm sending myself mad...
The bleeding has now stopped (it lasted I'd say less than one hour and is now just v pale, v watery.
So of course I've started to convince myself it's implantation bleeding...
With an HCG of 7 yesterday, couldn't this be the case? (Had assumed the HCG of 7 was post-mc, not new pregnancy)

Please tell me I'm getting carried away- or that this is possible. I'm confused (again).

I think that 7 would be really early - doesn't it double every day or something?

From my more recent early mc, my experience was that my cycle was rather screwed up to start with, but roughly in step with the commencement of the mc ifyswim...

Sorry that you have had a bad experience over care - mine (on 1st mc) was complicated by the fact that I was on holiday - and they recommended an erpc that day - they said that they would let me know if there was anything that needed following up on - but didn't - which meant that my regular trips back to the Doctor were treated as me being paranoid for 3 months...

I would leave it a week and take a test - if its negative, all has stopped etc. If it is positive, you might be pregnant - probably they might suggest early scan given recent history, but don't know what the normal practise is in your area.

mistlethrush, EIC cake - Thank you for your kind comments - and suggestions - I would probably be hopeless at knitting and so I'm thinking of taking up swimming. You're right its preferable to eating which let's face it really does seem like the greatest option sometimes. I definitely like the idea of flaking out more easily at the end of the day... and being a bit fitter. I will check out the local pool. What a good excuse to get a new cozzie!

My current pre-occupation is also waiting for AF, and hoping that despite the BFN 2 days ago that the fact that my sense of smell is really strong, wierd abdo cramps and being more tired than usual is proof that I'm pregnant... hmm.. driving myself a bit mad. Still not due for 2 days. Wish I wasn't so impatient!

mistlethrush please can I ask what MP is?

To answer your point about bleeding after MC, mine was light and then very heavy for about 10 days. HTH...

Thanks for making me feel at home ladies. Catch you all soon.
Nx

CanI ask who tests your HCG levels? Bit clueless about that. Hope all goes well Joy.

Got my period this morning. Feeling Ugh. I had totally convinced myself I was PG as well. Oh well - best get off to work.

Nauseous, really sorry it didn't happen for you this month. In answer to your question, the Early Pregnancy Unit, who were dealing wiht my MC, tested my HCG levels. During the MC they tested every 48 hours to check that the HCG had dropped by half as expected; then once a week until the levels had dropped to almost nothing. This is to check that all is going as it should, and you haven't got an ectopic or anything. I would imagine that your GP can test them too though.

Mistlethrush- thanks for humouring me. Of course my period came back within an hour or so, and yes it does look very much like a normal period. I'll probably do a test next week anyway (because I am insane) just to check- don't trust my body any more.

I'm glad of this thread, as I feel totally different about ttc, now that I have had a miscarriage, than I did before. It's nice that there are others here who understand.
It's a shame that my first pregnancy ended this way, but I'm hopeful for the future, and for all of us here.

HI can I join. Just read joy's message and feel exactly the same. Had mmc diagnosed but then had natural mc and got an ERPC in June (great week for me).

AF came 31 days later, was convinced I had done it this month but came on today

The mc has completely changed how I feel too.

morning ladies
joy sorry your period arrived good luck for this month.
sparklymalarkey sorry to hear about your MC and about your period arriving i had an early MC in june and i am due AF tomorrow. so by this time tomorrow i might be in your boat. good luck for this cycle
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

sorry i meant nauseous sorry your AF has arrived not meaning to say joy so nauseous good luck for this next cycle
xx ei xx

Hello sparky, sorry to hear about your mmc and your period arriving.

Oh well, at least there are several of us who have all started our cycles within a couple of days of each other, so we can all support each other in a fortnight or so.

Sparky, I'm actually quite shocked at how different I feel post-mc. Tbh I look back at myself and see a bit of a child (I'm 27 so this is certainly not the case in reality!). Although it was a very early mc and not too traumatic, it made me grow up A LOT. And for me and my partner, it made the idea of having a baby very real and focused our minds on it more. We couldn't grasp it before, I don't think. And if this pregnancy had continued (I didn't know I was PG until I was miscarrying, for various medical-type reasons), it would have been a big culture shock despite planning to get pregnant. This time around (please let it be this month) I think we'll be much more ready and calm. Just trying to look on bright side.

I have a question actually (TMI! TMI!) : did anyone else find that when they had their first af after a mc, there were remnants of what the hospital delightfully call "product", as well as normal bleeding? Not a lot, just little bits?

Sorry to end on that note!

Hi Joy, I didn't have that but I think it's not uncommon, nothing to worry about I don't think . If the bleeding gets very heavy or very painful you should probably go to your doctor (sorry for stating the obvious!)

Sorry to see so many new faces, but you're in the right place

Sweetpea re private tests, I've just been sorting out some papers and I found the letter from St Mary's Paddington about which tests they offer and the charges, thought you might be interested (and at the charges!) Just don't ask me what they all mean! Here goes:

First Consultation: £200
Follow-up consultation £150
Cycle monitoring £480 per cycle
Chromosomes (male & female)£171 per person
Day 2 LH/FSH £28
Testosterone £35
Rubella screen £45
Full Blood Count £28
Blood Group £28
Fasting insulin/glucose
Pelvic ultrasound scan £172
Antiphospholipid Antibody tests x2 £100
Prothrombin Gene Mutation £100
TEG (thromboelastogram)£50
Factor V Leiden £100
Activated Protein-C Resistance £60

So all in all an easy way to spend a LOT of money without even trying! The FBC, Rubella, Blood Grouping, fasting insulin/glucose I had done by my GP - for free !

Hope this helps xx

Hi sparky just saw you had got AF on the 2ww thread , welcome to this thread, everyone here is lovely.

Joy I thought I had 'bits' but on reflection now I dont know whether i was imagining it because the AF brought back some many horrible memories of the mc. I do agree that things are different now though.

Am still on 2ww even though Ive had no BFP w the 2 tests i have done becasue neither have worked - I obviously cant wee properly

Hi again ontheup and thanks everyone for all the lovely messages.

If you get your BFP (fingers crossed!!) I hope you can wee properly ontheup (thinking about all those tests ) - although I could never do it in those tiny tubes the midwives give you!

joy - I'm not sure, my periods (all 2 of them) are a bit different since the mc; but I've been seeing a reflexologist so am not sure whether it's the ERPC 'clearing it out' (sorry - that sounds awful) or the reflexology helping to regulate my cycle again..

have been reading about the wonders of grapefruit juice - DH has been sent out to get some (poor fella!!)

Just got a BFN on FR but feel very pg so am going to wait and test on Sunday since AF is only due tomorrow so might be a bit early yet (madly clutching at whatever straws are lying about emoticon)

sorry aout your BFN ontheup good luck with testing tomorrow
my AF is due tomorrow and i also feel very pg i have all these unusual symptoms compared to my normal AFey symptoms and i know i will be quite devastated if af does turn up as i have (stupidly) gotten my hopes way up this cycle especially as i do my temp and it has been at a record high for this point in comparison to any of my previous cycles only time will tell i suppose as i caved in and tested yesterday and it was BFN but it is rather early days if i am preg so who knows i hate these last few days waiting and wondering
joy i must have missed your post saying your AF had arrived sorry good luck this cycle
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

good luck queenie

you too ontheup
xx ei xx

Just a quick hi, and sorry to see all the new faces, but you're definitely in the right place to get a ton of support and information.

ontheup sorry about your BFN, hon. I've said this before, but can't remember where, so without wanting to give you false hope, I got a BFN on CD30 (my cycle is usually 28-32 days, so should have been accurate) and then a BFP on CD34, so worth testing again if AF hasn't got you by Sunday. And LOL at your new emoticon .

I'm mostly feeling queasy and a bit scared at the moment. All is fine as far as I know, but I've just found out I can't have a reassurance scan at 8 weeks (although my GP tried to swing it for me), so have decided to wait till nuchal at 12 weeks. I may yet crack and go private, but I'm really trying to stay sane and treat this as a completely different experience from last time. I'm having lots of acupuncture at the moment, so that helps - I kind of see her as my therapist, for one a week me-time . Sorry (again) for the whinge... Sometimes I think I'm managing really well, then the fear intrudes again. So I just get it off my chest by coming on here and talking about me, me, me

daisyj I can imagine your fear, sounds perfectly normal to me. Am starting to consider acupuncture since so many here think it is worthwhile.

AF hasnt got me yet so fingers crossed...may test tomorrow or may try to hold off another day. My body feels pg so I will be gutted if I get a BFN again. Have also been having vivid dreams and I had that last time with DS but no metallic taste yet which I was expecting.

Queenie any news???

daisyj I just reread my post and disdnt mean for it to sound QUITE so curt - I am so used to typing in shorthand for work I can be a bit brusque. Sorry. What I meant to say was try not to worry even though you will and telling yourself this is a whole new experience sounds v sensible to me, I will try that myself should I EVER get a BFP!

Daisy - quite understand fears etc. I got scan at 6wks for ds last time due to previous mp (nauseous - molar pregnancy) - and again at 9wks. However, despite this, still got really bad feeling regularly, it was ages between check ups in terms of peace of mind at least. I remember at 6 months finding some hpt that were out of date and convincing myself that I must have imagined the whole thing (including the regular kicking, bump etc). I didn't actually completely believe that it was all going to be OK until I had ds in my arms.

Ontheup - I found I went off red wine unmistakably - lucky for me, didn't want to drink any alchohol during - liked the smell, not the taste!

Also went of take-aways - chinese first, then indian...

Thanks for the words of comfort mistle and ontheup. It's a relief to hear that having a 'really bad feeling' doesn't mean it's not going to work out. As you can probably tell from the fact that I'm posting so early, I'm not feeling particularly relaxed right now. In fact, my pg symptoms are fading (well, the main one, which is sore boobs) and I'm convinced everything is really not OK. Still feel a bit queasy, but I think that's fear more than morning sickness.

I think the main reason I've decided not to have an early scan is because I'm too scared to find out what I'm starting to believe, which is that I'm going to lose this one too...

Has anyone else just had sore breasts for the first couple of weeks and then the symptom has faded but everything has still been OK? (sorry for crap grammar - in too much of a state to phrase this elegantly...)