2ww and the bit in between. BFP's we're waiting!

[Bucky2008]

Maybe a nice shiny new thread will get us all enthusiastic again. I am on my rubbish diet so I only have nuts and beans to put out on the table. Oh and gin of course ;o) Anyone got any cakes to tempt me with?

Ding ding....let's...go

Do you think I have gone a bit mad

hi Ei, sorry to hear that

Ei and Jolly, thanks for your welcome. i have somehow manage not to be obsessive about HPTs! LOL! it is dy19, so another 9 days to go...

will keep checking this thread to see how you are all doing. good luck to all

hi ladies
GG great that you got some well timed BDing in hopefully your DHs geriartics have invested in some motor scooters to get to the egg and you may not even need your appointment
hatty great news about your blood tests and FWIW an underactive thyroid is only a problem when it is uncontrolled so hopefully your doc will give you some meds and you will have no probs whatsoever
JJB nice to see you over here
hi to everyone else >
xx ei xx

hello everyone

sorry not to say hello to heron yesterday. Good luck for this month.

ei - he, he, you make me laugh. Motor scooters is exactly what DH's swimmers need. I did read something quite encouraging last night while doing my "research" on poorly sperm . The statistics for TTC with a low sperm count were definitely better than I thought. An Austrialian study reckoned on a 4% chance of conception each month with DH's count, which is not terrific odds, but with enough months of trying at the right times, it is not utterly hopeless either.

madoldbird - where are you? . Did I read further down that your DP is considering going for tests too? Let us know all your news. Not long until the London meet up.

It's only 13 days until our appointment, but having done further reasearch into St Mary's Paddington. They do patient assessments at their fertility clinic, but they don't actually do ICSI/IVF there, should it be needed, which may mean another referral to a different hospital and more waiting . Anyway, mustn't dwell on that now. CD16 today for me and DH is finally off to Germany until next week, so we got the BD-ing in at the right time and he can now relax . last night I found a photo of DH when he was five (Year 1 school photo) and he is soooo cute in it . i went all gooey and sentimental and thought "I want a little one just like him" .

Big hello to jolly - what's happening with you?

Bucky - when are your DP's results due back. Any news?

hatty and picknmix - hello to you two . Hope work isn't as bad today. It has calmed down a bit here, but I still have too much to do. But I have made time to post here because there is no broadband at home (well, there is, but it's not exactly ours - we have been net surfing on the man downstair's unsecured WIFI because ours is knackered )

Hi to anyone missed.

Hello Everyone

CD9 here...temping is quite interesting, I have five dots already! FF seems a little confused though as it is telling me I ov but I think that is because there are not enough dots .

GG nice to see you back, I missed you .

Hatty glad the tests look good, try not to Google too much. I thought I had brain damage after I smacked my head on the door frame the other day (I obviously immediately googled to see what damage I had done) .

MOB you must have five dots too!! . How is your chart doing? Mine looks like a big zig zag....all over the place. Quite an interesting scientific study though...I think Gin makes your temp go up.

PnM how is bunny? Better I hope. Molly arrives (at last) on Thursday...hurrah. She is going to be a bit of a handful though. Hope she doesn't chew my furniture! Do you feel happier today?

Jollybear wheeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrre aaaaaaaare you?

Ei did AF turn up or are you still in limbo . I just wondered if you got some resolution re the CP or if you have had some good news?

Hi to JJB and a big wave to everyone else.

Gotta go and eat a big lunch now...

Hello all, I am normaly posting on clomid site.
I am on round 2 of 100mg of clomid, plus metformin 1500mg.
I am on cd 28 today and yesterday I got a possitive ovulation test. Cant believe it as I have never had one before. Today it still reads possitive but I have had a lot of left side pain this am, so I think that was ovulation.

My temps dropped this am to 36.21 cel. They have been between 36.3 to 36.5 all this cycle.
So should I expect them to go higher from tomorrow?
I think I am now in the 2ww with u gyes.

Any info would be great.xx

supersteph if you ov today you should see a rise tomorrow. Some women do get a dip the day before the rise which may be what has happened with today's lower temp
GG lovely to hear from you, not long now until appt and who knows maybe you'll be one of those couples that start getting fertility help and hey presto BFP Like you said the chances are not hopeless and well timed BD'ing will give you a fighting chance. Everything crossed for you xx
Bucky teehee am glad you are enjoying charting and yes Gin does raise temp so we can tell when you've been boozing (when we see your chart!). Are you opking or relying on CM for ov prediction ? Look forward to seeing your temps in a few days when it gets to the exciting bit!
Ei how are you today missus ? Hope you are feeling ok after AF messed you about.
hatty well did she show or are you planning to pee on a stick soon...?

hey guys thanx for all your welcomes i feel quite at home now... god im never any good at this waiting lark im determined not to test untill day 32 i dont know why spesifically (sp?) day 32 as my cycle is never regular but im really itching to buy a test now, still not long to wait, i think ill be less disapointed if i dont test? and just wait and see
ei i posted on TTC page how sorry i am but i will send you some more hugs here (((hugs))).

Thanks mibbes I will inform you of my temp tomorrow. X

Hello strangers [big waves to everybody]

Well, I'm back.

Things have changed somewhat in the ttc stakes. I had to put it off because I was waiting to have an operation, which I finally had last week.

In the meantime I had an ultrasound for weird periods and a gyne consultation. I have a polycystic ovary (just one, not PCOS), and they think I have endometriosis, but they won't do a laposcopy (sp??) until I struggle to fall pg. The best cure for the condition is to fall pg. Ah, the irony. So, given that time probably isn't on my side at all, we've decided to get on with it!

Bring it on.

I've missed you all

[grin} Yay for abbeymegs return ...Yes, I am still bloody here! Glad you have brought your ankles back for me to hold on to .

Mibbes I meant to buy some OPKs but haven't got round to it yet. Maybe tomorrow. I never have any CM to speak of so can't rely on that. I think we will just BD every other day from now until CD23ish...

Abbeymeg!! (were you around when I changed my name from cbcb, it's all go here!). Sorry to hear you've been having a rough time, hope that some way around the medical probs can be found or that a BFP suddenly appears..how are things with your little girl? Don't worry if you'd rather not go into it all. Lovely to hear from you!

Mibbes I have no HPT's in the house. And I am now officially a day over my longest cycle (longest ever tends to 32 days, I'm now 33 and counting).

Who was it that said they'd rather not test because then they could fool themselves that they'd never got their hopes up? Well, I concur with that..Josie I think you're thinking along the same lines!

Although I booked my next acupuncture appointment today presuming AF would have turned up by now, as she said it was better to treat when she knew I definitely wasn't pregnant so she could be a bit tougher in trying to knock my cycle back into shape..I can't get to the chemist before the appt so it's going to be a bit of a strange one unless my period does suddenly arrive, in which case I will so not feel like being jabbed with needles when I'm feeling rubbish! Isn't your pain threshold lower during your period?

Bucky Not Google too much? That's so true but so hard!

GG glad you got some time this month before DH went away - hope the time to the appointment flies by..

Morning all!

Sorry for going missing I had a few days away and completely forgot to tell you all! Sorry! Thanks for asking after me though .

Abbymeg Welcome back! I'm really pleased that you got the gyne stuff sorted and are back to symptom spot once more.

Hatty How have you not tested?! You must have nerves of steel . How long are you planning on being late before testing? Fingers crossed for you.

GG Those odds don't sound bad at all! Did you pack DH off to Germany with TCOYF in the end?!

bucky FF can get confused! Once you have more temps it should remove those and recalculate it. How are you finding temping?

ei What is happening with you? Did they do blood tests in the end?

P&M Sorry to hear you've been feeling down and your bunny is ill . How is he/she now? >

My temps have gone odd which may be down to having disturbed sleep whilst being away. I've also caught a cold so that might have made it high today . I'm 12DPO so AF is due on Saturday. Oh and I haven't heard anything about the job so I am taking that as a rejection!!

morning jb
i am due sat 2 if 28 day cycle last was 55 days
would luv any nosing @ chart
thought i ovulated cd17 because of big temp drop
temp up for me again today
and bd last nite

ABBEYMEG!!!! You are returned to us!!! (or whatever they say in Jane Austen type-novels). I am still here too (will never leave the 2WW ). I hope you are ok after the operation. I am sorry to hear about the ovarian cysts and the possibility of endometriosis, but as the doctors say, getting up the duff will be the perfect cure for that! Welcome back!

Jolly - you are returned to us too . We missed you and your cheery good humour. Sadly, I didn't pack DH off with a copy of TYOYF in the end. He is in a bad mood with me because I won't go to on holiday to the USA in August (maybe I should be posting this on the "Am I Being Unreasonable?" threads ). He wants me to stay in a house with some of his clients and make small talk, like some sort of Desperate Housewives On Sea. Not my idea of a relaxing holiday! They even have a cake baking rota for when they guys come back from fishing ! No ta! We might be in the middle of IVF or anything!

hatty - I am excited for you. Have you tested yet? Please let it be a BFP for you this month!

big hello to SuperSteph and josiejellybean and welcome to the 2WW. I am just into the 2WW now - CD17 for me so the countdown begins. It is great news about your CD28 ovulation!

Bucky - what CD are you on now? I have my fingers crossed for Mr Bucky's test results too.

Have a lovely day everyone. Is it sunny with you guys? It is gorgeous morning outside my office.

abbey - are you in London or the S/E? There is a 2WW meet up with six of us that Bucky has organised for 27th (I think ) of April. Come along!

Oh and does extreme tiredness count as a symptom even at CD17 . I am exhausted today - completely shattered - and I haven't actually done anything

Symptoms symptoms...GG of course extreme tiredness is a symptom. However it is also a symptom of overwork (not meaning to rain on the parade of course). . I am quite impressed by the 4% chance. That's more of a chance than I have getting DP to ring up for his results...Men, they suck sometimes. Why can't he just ring up the doctor?????

The sun is making me NOT want to work at all today. I have a course on delegation starting at ten for the day. Thank goodness.

JB glad to see you back again.
Hatty a day late how exciting test test!!!

Well my temps are plain old weird. I was 36.02 this morning, yesterday I was 36.40. I think the gin and lack of sleep caused the high temp, but it is quite interesting how, when you don't feel much different, there is a massive shift in temp! As before FF says I am a weirdo and should change where I stick the thermometer . Somehow I don't think their suggestion would be very hygenic.

Bucky - ankles are here for you to dangle from as you need to. I'm CD27 today, so I'm hanging on to you ! There is a slight (drunken bding - such a good idea at the time ) possibility that I could be pg. I'm actually hoping not, as I dread to think what the hideous mixture of serious drugs they've had me on in the last week would have done to it.

Hatty - I didn't know you'd changed identity! I take it, from other posts, things are looking really good. Fingers crossed for you! DD was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome - a form of autism. This wasn't a great surprise. It means she has trouble socialising and dealing with emotions. She is also very clever when she chooses to be. She will stay quite vulnerable as asperger's seem to struggle with common-sense situations, and her fine motor skills aren't great. But she's always been like this, and it's who she is. I wouldn't change her. As long as we keep her happy and positive, I hope that she'll overcome the attitudes of other kids. She'll also be coming to the secondary school where I teach, which makes it easier for me to keep an eye on how she's getting on. Other kids tend to bully her because she's different.

GG I love that you screamed! It's made me feel all pleased with myself!! I was worried everyone would have forgotten me! I still think it;s funny that getting pg is the best solution for a disease that is responsible for a lot of infertility. Suspect I could be here for a LONG time. Dr said give it 6 months to a year, then she would test me for it if I haven't fallen pg. Decided not to wait any longer because the condition - if I do have it - gets progressively worse. Stupid reproductive system! I live in Leeds and am currently poor, but if you keep me posted for when you meet up, I'll try to come at some point as it would be really lovely to meet you all properly .

waves big hello to Jollybear.

So, my current plan of action is to try for a couple of months unaided (and try to lose some weight as I'm a chubby abbymeg at the moment.) Then, if nothing has happened, I'm hoping that you can all educate me in the ways of OV sticks and charting.

Throwing clouds of babydust at everbody. Have a lovely day.

Abbeymeg so sorry to hear your DD is being bullied - children can be so vicious . I imagine it must be useful to at least have the diagnosis in place and be able to move forward from there..

GG your holiday does sound bizarre! Could you lead a revolution if forced to go and get all the girls out doing fun stuff, rather than sat at home baking? I do have visions of you all sitting with immaculate make up on watching the clock tick, all dressed in varying pastel tones of court shoes, sensible skirts and cardigans!

Jollybear I don't want to test - it sounds so defeatist but adter so many let downs of negative tests when I was so convinced I was pregnant - I just can't bear it again!

Having said that, have just asked DH to pick up a test for me in town. Am working from home today and should really do the test before my accupuncunture appointment at lunchtime, just to help guide my treatment. .

Am on permanent knicker watch, am far more convinced it's just my crap cycles than pregnancy - feels like AF about to start any minute..

oh Abbey - you have had a tough time. I am so sorry to hear about your DD being bullied. Now you have a diagnosis of Aspergers, so now you know how you can help her for the best. My Mum is a teacher specialising in teaching children within the autistic spectrum and I see how much she enjoys her work and how she helps. It will be great having your DD at the same school as you.

Shame you are so far away, but I think Jolly was suggesting a North West meet up at one stage .

Bucky - have checked with my sis and she advises that the most accurate way to take temps is indeed the "French" way

And the worst thing is that DH and I had a huuuuuge argument last night, didn't make up like we normally do before bedtime and I haven't seen him this morning because I started work early and he's out with the girls.

He tends to take aaaaaages to come out of his cave when we do fight, we don't fight that much but last time we did he was still completely tightlipped and underwhelmed on the phone when I'd just landed a big new contract .

Men! So not particulary feeling like doing something as sensitive as pregnancy testing when he's standing there looking like thunder..

Sorry just needed to rant into cyberspace! At least my 2ww buddies will be supporting me

hatty - everything crossed for your test. You should do it before accupuncture. Sending you lots of baby vibes

sorry, crossed posts.

Oh you poor thing hatty - your DH sound s alot like mine in his cave dwelling antics. men! . I hope you are ok and rant away to all of us in cyber space.

My still DH isn't talking to me either this morning (and he's b*ggered off to Amsterdam) if it is any consolation.

Oh GG I'm sorry to hear that you're rowing too, sending you huge hugs too and thanks hugely for the baby vibes!

My DH is now being crap about going to do his sperm analysis at the hospital as well!

Maybe we are all secretly with the same man?!

abby It will be great to be able to keep an eye on your DD at big school. Having a diagnosis should mean you can get any help she needs too. Fingers crossed your AF stays away. I'm near Manchester and ei is in Liverpool so we could do a North meet at some point. hatty is also oooop north somewhere too.

hatty I understand the trepidation completely. I hate the nervous fluttery tummy I get beforehand LOL at your being married to GG's DH, I think GG suggested my DH and her DH were one and the same recently. He sure gets around!

bucky But the beeps will be muffled... sorry difficult to hear!!

Afternoon all,

Abbymeg!!!! So good to 'see' you was only thinking about you the other day and then here you are! Sorry to hear its been a rough ride recently - as others have said, it sounds positive that you have had a diagnosis for your DD - I think that can be half the battle sometimes. My DH works with people with Aspergers and I've never met someone who can work a 48 hour shift who still comes home smiling because he loves his job and the people he works for so much. Fingers crossed for you that af keeps away.

Bucky - when I first started temping my temps were all over the place as well. Apparently it makes a huge difference if you sleep with your mouth open (i.e. snore!)...Maybe the gin induced a bit of slack mouth syndrome . Bet you're v v v v excited about Mollys arrival - you'll have to post a pic of her when she gets to you! Have you explained the situation to Fynn so he's well prepared ?!

Hatty sorry to hear about your argument with DH - hopefully his mood will have come round a bit after spending some time in the sunshine. Have you tested yet (can fully understand the trepidation)?

JB that you haven't heard about the job (wish people would, just out of politeness, get in contact one way or another - makes the waiting so much easier!). How are you feeling today? Is your cold pretty bad?

GG how long is DH away for this time? Must be hard with him going away so often. As others have said, you've got to be in it to win it () so well done on the well timed bding. YOur Desperate Housewives scenario sounds vile - am pleased my DH isn't a high flyer so I'm not expected to partake in such cake baking activities ! Am liking Hattys idea about leading a revolution into the 21st C and making the men stay at home whilst you go off etc...!

I'm still in my pit of feeling sorry for myself (hence why I haven't posted for a few days) - Harry Bunny is getting better (thank you for asking) which is good but have spent last few days syringe feeding him. Yes, sadly he is my surrogate kid so was a little panicky for a while!

Has been nice to catch up on here tho - makes me see that my situation is not that bad and I should just pull my [metaphorical - its too sunny for them] socks up and get on with things.

Phew....apologies for a long post!

Bucky - the 4% statistic on getting pregnant, I got from this link, which is the best one for information that I have seen.